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Crawlspace – True Crime & Mysteries

Crawlspace is where crime meets culture.
We host interesting conversations about unsolved murders, serial killers, cold cases and paranormal activity. We go beyond entertainment as we dig deeper to tell stories of crimes, vanished people, and injustices. Our guests include survivors, authors, journalists, podcasters, advocates, and educators.
Starting in 2017 with a deep dive into the disappearance of Brianna Maitland, Crawlspace is hosted by Tim Pilleri & Lance Reenstierna of the Missing Maura Murray and Missing podcasts.
Frequent topics include unsolved murders like the JonBenét Ramsey case, wrongful convictions like John Giuca, serial killers like the Zodiac killer, Christopher Wilder, and Jeffrey Dahmer. We speak with experts in criminal psychology like Dr Michelle Ward, survivors like Jane Boroski, and even Satanist Lucien Greaves. But we also have a lighter side where we discuss ghosts and paranormal activity, weird cryptids like Bigfoot and Mothman, and fun mysteries like the dolls found in a Michigan couple’s mailbox.
Authors like Jon Ronson, Rabia Chaudry, and Daniel Stone have joined us and we’ve even spoken with familiar names in comedy and entertainment like Melissa Rivers, Patrick Hinds, and Dave Holmes.
Crawlspace is a Crawlspace Media production.

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537 // Death & Lovejoy w/ Bess Lovejoy Jul 06, 2025

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Welcome to Crawlspace. In this new episode, Tim Pilleri & Lance Reenstierna are joined by another new friend of the show, the wonderful Bess Lovejoy. Bess is a journalist and an author with a primary focus on all things macabre. The discussion contains fascinating topics like graveyard etiquette and the remarkable fates of the corpses of famous people.

Get your copy of Rest In Pieces: ⁠https://bookshop.org/a/3935/9781451655001⁠

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https://besslovejoy.wordpress.com/

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536 // Missing Evelyn Hartley Jul 04, 2025

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In this episode Tim Pilleri and Lance Reenstierna discuss the mysterious disappearance of Evelyn Grace Hartley from La Crosse, Wisconsin on October 24th, 1953.

Evelyn was babysitting nearby when she was seemingly abducted from a home. Signs of a struggle were seen in the living room, her sneaker was found at the bottom of the basement stairs, and blood was found in the yard. Evelyn was never seen again.

If you have any information regarding the disappearance of Evelyn Hartley please call the La Cross police department at 608-785-5962.

This episode was originally published on June 23rd, 2025 on Missing.

This episode was researched by Kathleen Studer.

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Sources:

Where’s Evelyn? The 1953 babysitter’s kidnapping that shook the nation by Susan T. Hessel.

⁠https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Evelyn_Hartley⁠.

⁠https://charleyproject.org/case/evelyn-grace-hartley⁠.

⁠newspapers.com⁠.

⁠ancestry.com⁠.

⁠https://www.wiproud.com/rivertown-2024/the-evelyn-hartly-disappearance-pictures/⁠.

⁠https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Crosse,_Wisconsin⁠.

⁠https://www.wunderground.com/history/daily/KLSE/date/1953-10-24⁠

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535 // The Devil Wears Rothko w/ Barry Avrich Jul 02, 2025

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In this episode, Tim Pilleri and Lance Reenstierna speak with author and filmmaker Barry Avrich about his new book The Devil Wears Rothko about an intense forgery scheme involving priceless art.

Get the book here: ⁠https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Devil-Wears-Rothko/Barry-Avrich/9798888454527⁠.

⁠https://www.amazon.com/Devil-Wears-Rothko-Inside-Scandal/dp/B0DJKYT463⁠.

Watch Made You Look: https://www.netflix.com/title/81406333.

Follow Barry on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/barryavrich22/.

This episode was previously published on Empty Frames.

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534 // Sister Saint or Sister Sinner w/ Claire Hoffman Jun 29, 2025

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Welcome to Crawlspace. In this new episode, Tim Pilleri & Lance Reenstierna are joined by new friend of the show, a great journalist and author, Claire Hoffman. In this conversation, Claire examines and life and potential crimes of the larger than life self-made evangelist and media phenom, Sister Aimee Semple McPherson.

To get a copy of Claire's book, Sister Sinner, go to:

https://www.clairehoffman.com/

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IG: @clairhoffman3000

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533 // The Legend of Lizzy Borden w/ Christopher Daley Jun 25, 2025

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Welcome to Crawlspace. In this new episode, Tim Pilleri & Lance Reenstierna are joined again by the outstanding historian, lecturer, academic, writer and master storyteller, Mr. Christopher Daley. Chris joined the show earlier in the year to examine the life and times of New England's first serial killer, Franklin Evans. In this conversation, Chris regales us with everything you didn't know about the notorious Lizzy Borden, who famously was acquitted for the 1892 double murder of her father and step-mother.

Check out everything Christopher Daley has going on:

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532 // Missing Brianna Maitland - New Witnesses Come Forward Jun 24, 2025

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In this episode, Tim Pilleri and Lance Reenstierna speak with private investigators Greg Overacker and Lou Barry to discuss some new witness accounts in Brianna Maitland's disappearance.

This conversation with Greg and Lou was recorded during the 6/11/25 live virtual fundraiser for ⁠Private Investigations For the Missing⁠.

If you have any information please contact the Vermont State Police at 1-844-84-VTIPS (1-844-848-8477) email at: ⁠⁠vsp.vermont.gov/tipsubmit⁠⁠.

Or email the private investigators on this show: ⁠⁠hopsicker@gmail.com⁠⁠, ⁠⁠chiefbarry@gmail.com⁠⁠.

Get Greg's book on the disappearance of Brianna Maitland: ⁠⁠⁠https://books.bloatedtoe.com/book-contributor/gregory-j-overacker/⁠⁠⁠.

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531 // The Voynich Enigma w/ Jillian Foley Jun 22, 2025

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Welcome to Crawlspace. In this new episode, Tim Pilleri & Lance Reenstierna are joined by a new friend of the show, the great Jillian Foley. Jillian is a "writer and historian of technology, studying things like cryptography, computers, and mathematics, and all the weird shit humans do with it all."

She holds a PhD from the University of Chicago in their Conceptual and Historical Studies of Science. This makes her the perfect person to discuss the never-ending mystery that is The Voynich Manuscript. This is a 600 year old 240 page medieval codex written in an unknown language, complimented by beautiful and bizarre drawings of natural elements, plants of unknown origin and naked women. While answers may never come to be, this conversation examines the work in-depth.

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https://undark.org/2020/02/12/decoding-bizarre-voynich-manuscript/

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530 // Fear And Living In New England w/ Prof. David Perlmutter Jun 18, 2025

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Welcome to Crawlspace. In this new episode, Tim Pilleri & Lance Reenstierna once again try to understand the dark fascination people have with the possibility of a serial killer operating in New England. They are joined by Prof. David Perlmutter of Texas Tech University. Dr. Perlmutter is the professor of Media and Communications and he shares his unique insight into the motivations of how the media is portraying this story.

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529 // The Murder of Joseph Gatto w/ Mike Gatto Jun 15, 2025

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Welcome to Crawlspace. In this new episode, Tim Pilleri & Lance Reenstierna are joined by new friend of the show, Mike Gatto. Mr. Gatto is a lifelong politician, reaching extraordinary heights in the California arena. In November of 2013, his father Joseph was found murdered. A single gunshot wound to his abdomen cuts his new life as a successful artist short.

Pick up a copy of Mike's book, Noir by Necessity:

https://bookshop.org/p/books/noir-by-necessity-how-my-father-s-unsolved-murder-took-me-to-dark-places-mike-gatto/21145488?ean=9781685133818&next=t

https://www.amazon.com/Noir-Necessity-Fathers-Unsolved-Murder/dp/1685133819.

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Twitter: https://twitter.com/mikegatto

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528 // Zodiac Killer Unmasked?! Jun 11, 2025

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Welcome to Crawlspace. In this new episode, Tim Pilleri & Lance Reenstierna speak with old friend Mike Morford about his investigation into the identity of the Zodiac killer.

Morf has an extensive history of covering the Zodiac case, including having written a book on it: https://www.amazon.com/Case-Zodiac-Killer-Photographs-Criminology/dp/1947290533.

Check out Morf's podcasts here:

https://www.abjackentertainment.com/.

Zodiac Speaking episodes on Mac below:

https://www.abjackentertainment.com/zodiac-speaking/episode-37-zodiac-speaking-mac.

https://www.abjackentertainment.com/zodiac-speaking/episode-44-zodiac-speaking-the-big-mac-update-76hhf-tj5yc-fwh95-p34a2-9nkgp-ge8xg

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