Counseling Talk — A podcast by 9Marks

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**Counseling Talk — A podcast by 9Marks**

A podcast by 9Marks, with Garrett Kell, Hayley Satrom, and Deepak Reju.

Latest Episodes:

On Getting Engaged: 8 Myths About Engagement (Ep. 56) Oct 19, 2026

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Deepak, Hayley and Garrett discuss 8 myths about Engagement.

Resources:

Just Do Something by Kevin DeYoung

Pre-Engagement: Five Questions to Ask Yourselves by David Powlison

Preparing for Engagement by Mike McKinley

On Dating Part 7: On Breaking Up for the Glory of God (Ep. 55) Oct 05, 2026

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Deepak Hayley and Garrett talk about what to do and what not to do when you break up.

Resources:

Who Should I Date? Relationship Advice in a Real World by William P. Smith

Starting Over: How Not to Screw Up Your Relationship by William P. Smith

On Dating Part 6: On Six “Things that Go Wrong in a Dating Culture” (Ep. 54) Sep 21, 2026

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Deepak, Haley and Garrett discuss things that go wrong in a dating church culture.

Resources:

Single and Lonely by Jayne Clark

Struggling Through Your Singleness by Jayne Clark

On Dating Part 5: Interview with Marshall Segal (Ep. 53) Sep 07, 2026

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Garrett, Deepak and Hayley interview Desiring God ministries President & CEO Marshall Segal on his book “Not Yet Married: The Pursuit of Joy in Singleness and Dating.

Resources:
Not Yet Married: The Pursuit of Joy in Singleness and Dating

On Dating Part 4: Assessment (13 Fs) (Ep. 52) Aug 24, 2026

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Deepak, Garrett and Hayley talk about 13 F's that help you to assess your dating relationship.

Resources:

13 Fs Dating Assessment PDF

Disclosing Past Sexual Sin in a Dating Relationship by Garrett Kell

On Dating Part 3: Affection (Ep. 51) Aug 10, 2026

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Deepak, Hayley and Deepak about about what the Bible says on physical and emotional intimacy.

On Dating Part 2: Alignment (Ep. 50) Jul 27, 2026

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Garrett, Deepak and Hayley talk about ALIGNMENT in dating. How do you move from an informal to a more formal relationship?
Resources MentionedShe’s Got the Wrong Guy: Why Smart Women Settle by Deepak Reju

On Dating Part 1: Appreciation and Attraction (Ep. 49) Jul 13, 2026

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Garrett, Hayley and Deepak start season 4 with a conversation about dating, starting with the role of appreciation and attraction.

On How to Use Homework Part 2 (Ep. 48) Apr 27, 2026

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Deepak, Hayley and Garrett talk about using Scripture as homework.
Resources Mentioned:
31-Day Devotionals for Life (Series)
Workbooks and resources from Christian Counseling & Educational Foundation

On How to Use Homework Part 1 (Ep. 47) Apr 13, 2026

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Deepak, Hayley and Garrett talk about the importance of homework and how and when to assign it in counseling. Sounds boring but it’s more important than you might realize!
Resources Mentioned
Good and Angry by David Powlison

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