Confused Heap of Facts

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Episode 82 – Henning on Cavalry and Air Power in the Interwar Years May 01, 2026

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Drs. Jonathan Abel and Bill Nance talk with Dr. Lori Henning about how American and British cavalry reacted to the development of air power. They begin by outlining the rise of air power before and during World War I. They discuss how both countries’ cavalry services incorporated air power in the 1920s. They continue to examine how developments in technology threatened horse cavalry in the 1930s. They conclude by noting that stories of techno-futurist prophets being oppressed by old recidivists in historiography are often exaggerated or outright false.

“History is only a confused heap of facts.” – Philip Dormer Stanhope, Earl of Chesterfield
Host: Dr. Jonathan Abel, CGSC DMH
DMH Podcast Team: Drs. Jonathan Abel, Mark Gerges, and Bill Nance
Artwork: Daniel O. Neal
Music: SSG Noah Taylor, West Point Band

Episode 81 – Kalic and Rafuse on U.S. Presidents in Wartime Apr 01, 2026

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Dr. Jonathan Abel and Dr. Bill Nance are joined by Dr. Sean Kalic, Director of DMH, and Dr. Ethan Rafuse to talk about their project on U.S. presidents in wartime. They discuss the themes and trends that emerge from a study of the topic. They dissect the human dimension of the task before the presidents. They conclude with lessons for today’s warfighters.

“History is only a confused heap of facts.” – Philip Dormer Stanhope, Earl of Chesterfield

Host: Dr. Jonathan Abel, CGSC DMH
DMH Podcast Team: Drs. Jonathan Abel, Mark Gerges, and Bill Nance
Artwork: Daniel O. Neal
Music: SSG Noah Taylor, West Point Band

Episode 80 – Rebuilding the British Army after 1914 Mar 01, 2026

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Dr. Jonathan Abel is joined by Dr. Bill Nance to talk to LTC Andy Whitford, PhD, Department of Distance Education, about how the British rebuilt their shattered army after the initial combats in World War I. They outline the British army and its institutions before World War I. They detail the practice of the soldier and manpower policy throughout the war. They conclude by examining how the war and manning policies created a significant legacy in British politics.

Episode 79 – Medieval C2 with Dr. John Hosler Jan 30, 2026

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Drs. Jonathan Abel and Bill Nance talk with Dr. John Hosler about command and control in medieval armies, particularly in Western Europe between c700 and 1450. They begin at the strategic level, characterizing armies and their compositions. They discuss muster, equipment, and pay. They then zoom in to discuss the operational and tactical levels. They conclude by noting that C2 has not much changed in many ways in 1,500 years, despite common belief to the contrary.

“History is only a confused heap of facts.” – Philip Dormer Stanhope, Earl of Chesterfield

Host: Dr. Jonathan Abel, CGSC DMH
DMH Podcast Team: Drs. Jonathan Abel, Mark Gerges, and Bill Nance
Artwork: Daniel O. Neal
Music: SSG Noah Taylor, West Point Band

Episode 78 – Reassessing King with Dr. John Kuehn Dec 22, 2025

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Dr. Jonathan Abel and Dr. Bill Nance are joined by Dr. John Kuehn to reassess Admiral Ernest King, commander of U.S. Navy forces during World War II. They outline his background and broad experience in the interwar years, and how he got to the offices he occupied during the war. They discuss his attitudes towards sea power and war planning. They detail his command of the war, including how he handled difficult subordinates like Chester Nimitz and William Halsey. Finally, Dr. Kuehn offers his reassessment of King as a solid and creative war leader for the Navy.

“History is only a confused heap of facts.” – Philip Dormer Stanhope, Earl of Chesterfield

Host: Dr. Jonathan Abel, CGSC DMH
DMH Podcast Team: Drs. Jonathan Abel, Mark Gerges, and Bill Nance
Artwork: Daniel O. Neal
Music: SSG Noah Taylor, West Point Band

Episode 77 - Reassessing Meade with Dr. Zach Fry Dec 01, 2025

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Dr. Jonathan Abel and Dr. Bill Nance are joined by Dr. Zach Fry to reassess George Meade. They begin with the popular image of him as having commanded only in name at Gettysburg before being superseded by Grant. They explore his background and antebellum career. They detail his war, particularly the leadup to Gettysburg, and the difficulty 1864 campaign. They conclude by determining that Meade was a good, if unspectacular, commander.

“History is only a confused heap of facts.” – Philip Dormer Stanhope, Earl of Chesterfield

Host: Dr. Jonathan Abel, CGSC DMH
DMH Podcast Team: Drs. Jonathan Abel, Mark Gerges, and Bill Nance
Artwork: Daniel O. Neal
Music: SSG Noah Taylor, West Point Band

Episode 76 - Reassessing Eisenhower Nov 01, 2025

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Dr. Jonathan Abel and Dr. Bill Nance reassess Dwight Eisenhower as a commander in World War 2. They discuss his background, his qualifications, and how he got his job as SHAEF commander. They detail his role as the most prominent Allied commander in Europe during most of the war and its challenges. They conclude with some lessons from Eisenhower’s career.

History is only a confused heap of facts.” – Philip Dormer Stanhope, Earl of Chesterfield

Host: Dr. Jonathan Abel, CGSC DMH
DMH Podcast Team: Drs. Jonathan Abel, Mark Gerges, and Bill Nance
Artwork: Daniel O. Neal
Music: SSG Noah Taylor, West Point Band

Episode 75 - Reassessing Bernadotte with Dr. Mike Bonura Oct 01, 2025

Show notes

Dr. Bill Nance hosts a reassessment of Marshal Jean-Baptiste Bernadotte, future King Karl XIV Johan of Sweden, with Dr. Jonathan Abel and Dr. Mike Bonura of DJIMO. They explain why Bernadotte is often seen negatively. They explore if that is an accurate assessment of his career. They conclude with their own thoughts on the topic.

Episode 74 - Special Guest COL Diven Oct 01, 2025

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Drs. Jonathan Abel and Bill Nance host special guest COL. Ethan Diven, Provost and Command and General Staff College Deputy Commandant. They discuss his favorite story from history, the importance of history in the CGSC curriculum, and how students should approach military history. Finally, he offers advice to students entering the course and graduates returning to the force.

“History is only a confused heap of facts.” – Philip Dormer Stanhope, Earl of Chesterfield

Host: Dr. Jonathan Abel, CGSC DMH
DMH Podcast Team: Drs. Jonathan Abel, Mark Gerges, and Bill Nance
Artwork: Daniel O. Neal
Music: SSG Noah Taylor, West Point Band

Episode 73 - Villanueva on Amphibious Operations in World War II Sep 01, 2025

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Drs. Jonathan Abel and Bill Nance are joined by special guest MAJ James Villanueva, PhD, US Army Mission Command Training Protocol, to discuss US Army amphibious operations in the Pacific in World War II. They begin by discussing the origin and training of amphibious operations in the interwar Army. They detail the difficulties of undertaking them during the war, particularly early when the Japanese still had significant combat power. They conclude by examining lessons modern practitioners might learn from the operations as they look to future conflict in the Indo-Pacific.

“History is only a confused heap of facts.” – Philip Dormer Stanhope, Earl of Chesterfield

Host: Dr. Jonathan Abel, CGSC DMH
DMH Podcast Team: Drs. Jonathan Abel, Mark Gerges, and Bill Nance
Artwork: Daniel O. Neal
Music: SSG Noah Taylor, West Point Band

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