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Pay transparency in practice: Making pay a universal language Sep 29, 2025

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Pay transparency laws are forcing the conversation—but alignment is what makes it stick.

When it comes to pay transparency, HR, Legal, and leadership often speak in different “dialects.” HR frames it around equity and structure, Legal around compliance and risk, and leadership around outcomes and cost. The challenge? These perspectives rarely align into a shared understanding that employees can trust.

In this episode of Comp and Coffee, we’re bringing together three leading voices to explore how organizations can move beyond compliance and turn transparency into a universal language of trust and alignment:

Ruth Thomas – Chief Compensation Strategist and pay equity thought leader and advisor, helping organizations build consistent, bias-free pay practices.

Lulu Seikaly – Corporate attorney guiding employers through the legal realities of pay transparency laws.

Elaina Van Kirk, PHR – Principal Consultant at Exude Human Capital, advising organizations on compensation, performance, and inclusive culture strategies.

Together, they’ll uncover how HR, Finance, and Legal can stop speaking past each other—and start building a pay narrative that employees not only understand but believe.

Salary budgets are shifting — here’s how to stay ahead Sep 18, 2025

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Salary budgets are tightening — but strategy doesn’t have to.

Payscale’s 10th Annual Salary Budget Survey reveals that planned pay increases for 2026 are dipping slightly from 2025, with economic uncertainty replacing competition for talent as the top driver of budget changes. But even in a cooling pay environment, HR and comp pros have a window to realign strategy before Q4 — if they have the right data in hand.

In this episode of Comp and Coffee, host Ruth Thomas sits down with Amy Stewart, Payscale’s Principal of Research & Insights, and Kathryn Gombos, HR & Total Rewards Leader and Founder of Gombos Group. Together, they unpack the latest salary budget trends, explore what’s behind the shifts, and share how organizations can use these insights to plan smarter, communicate with confidence, and navigate survey season without burning out.

2025–2026 Payscale Salary Budget Survey - https://www.payscale.com/featured-content/salary-budget-survey-sbs

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Fair pay means nothing if no one believes it Aug 27, 2025

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Fair pay means nothing if no one believes it. That’s the wake-up call from Payscale’s latest Fair Pay Impact Report. Despite rising wages, transparency laws, and improved market conditions, employees don’t believe they’re being paid fairly—and it’s costing businesses their best people.

In this episode of Comp and Coffee, host Ruth Thomas is joined by Lexi Clarke and Kate Peter—three women in the C-suite who are putting fair pay back at the top of the agenda. They unpack what the data tells us, what it feels like as leaders, and what needs to happen next.

Episode Resources:

Fair Pay Impact Report - https://www.payscale.com/research-and-insights/fair-pay-impact
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Chapters

(00:00) Commitment to Fair Pay and Leadership Introductions

(02:52) The Importance of Staying Loud About Pay Equity

(05:06) Challenges and Realities of Fair Pay Perception

(13:14) Economic Pressure and Trends Impacting Compensation Trust

(17:06) Defining and Practicing Real Transparency

(24:02) Personal Experiences Shaping Pay Advocacy

(31:01) Rebuilding Trust Through Honest Conversation

Turning pay into a business driver: A CHRO + CFO conversation Aug 08, 2025

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When the CFO asks why… will you panic or present your case with confidence?

In this episode of Comp and Coffee, we go behind the scenes with Lexi Clarke and Philip Watson to uncover how HR and Finance can stop speaking past each other—and start building stronger pay strategies together. Whether you're preparing for budget season or defending comp decisions in the boardroom, this episode gives you the language, data, and mindset you need to show that compensation isn’t just a line item—it’s a lever for business success.

The pay crystal ball: predicting the future with Pearl Meyer + Payscale Jul 10, 2025

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Compensation isn’t just an HR function—it’s a core business strategy. In this episode of Comp and Coffee, we look into the pay crystal ball with Rebecca Toman of Pearl Meyer, Ruth Thomas, Chief Compensation Strategist at Payscale, and Sara Hillenmeyer, Payscale’s Director of Data Science. Together, they explore how trusted data, AI, and a forward-thinking approach to comp strategy can help organizations not just keep up—but lead. If you care about performance, retention, equity, or executive pay, this episode is your blueprint for aligning comp strategy with long-term business success.

Closing the Confidence Gap: Pay Strategy Challenges in 2025 Jun 20, 2025

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What happens when your pay strategy sparks more questions than confidence—and your best people start walking? In this episode, we bring in the experts to tackle the hard truths behind tough pay conversations and how to rebuild trust before it’s too late.

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https://www.payscale.com/featured-content/cbpr
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Compensation History: A Walk Through the Past and Future of Pay Jun 13, 2025

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Compensation has come a long way—from handwritten ledgers and dusty binders to AI-powered insights and real-time salary data. But what does the past teach us about where we’re headed? Join us for a nostalgia-packed, future-forward journey through the history of comp, featuring expert reflections from WorldatWork, and predictions from the people shaping the next era of pay.

113: Gender Pay Gap Report: Facts revealed May 01, 2025

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What's the state of the gender pay gap in 2025?

In this episode Ruth Thomas discusses Payscale's 2025 Gender Pay Gap Report with Amy Stewart, Payscale's principal content strategist and author of the report.

Together, they explore the controlled and uncontrolled pay gaps, the impact of pay transparency, and the various systemic factors contributing to the gender pay gap.

Gain insights into why pay disparities persist and what organizations can do to address these inequalities.

Key Highlights

Discussion on the difference between controlled and uncontrolled pay gaps and their current figures.
Examination of how pay transparency legislation is affecting gender pay gaps across different states in the U.S.
Insights into the systemic issues and historical context driving the gender pay gap, including the role of motherhood.
Analysis of specific data showing pay disparities for women of color and in various industries.
Recommendations for organizations on measures to close the gender pay gap.

Quotes

"Pay transparency legislation is showing promise in closing pay gaps, though the impact is gradual." – Amy Stewart
"The gender pay gap remains at 83 cents on the dollar for women, highlighting persistent barriers in the workforce." – Ruth Thomas

Resources

2025 Gender Pay Gap Report: https://www.payscale.com/research-and-insights/gender-pay-gap/

112: Give your salary data strategy a glow up Apr 29, 2025

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With the median company now using three salary data sources—and four or more for larger organizations—it’s clear that more data is the norm. But more doesn’t always mean better. Are you truly getting the most out of your investment in compensation data? Or just adding complexity without clarity?

In this episode, we break down what an effective compensation benchmarking strategy really looks like—and how to use multiple data sources strategically, not just simultaneously.

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111: Leading through the gap: Women, pay equity & the path to the C-suite Apr 16, 2025

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Why has the gender pay gap stalled, and what does it take for women to break into leadership? In this episode of Comp & Coffee, Ruth Thomas sits down with Payscale’s Chief People Officer, Lexi Clarke, and Chief Customer Officer, Kate Peter, to explore the latest findings from the 2025 Gender Pay Gap Report. They discuss the challenges women face in leadership, the role of pay transparency, and what businesses can do to close the gap. Grab your coffee and join us for this important conversation!

Key Highlights
• Discussion of the persistent gender pay gap and the role of pay transparency in addressing this issue.
• Insights from Lexi and Kate on navigating leadership roles as women and overcoming challenges in male-dominated industries.
• Analysis of factors contributing to the stalling of pay gap improvements since 2022, with a focus on systemic issues and political influences.
• Examination of the motherhood penalty and its impact on women's career trajectories.
• The importance of having a "personal board of directors" and being authentic in leadership roles.

Quotes
• "I want to show her what strong looks like. I want to be messy in front of her and show her that you can lead authentically." – Kate Peter
• "You can't unsee the data once you have it, and then you want to act on it." – Ruth Thomas
• "Being authentic is my way of making sure I'm doing my best work." – Lexi Clarke

References
Payscale's 2025 Gender Pay Gap Report

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