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    Clause 8

    Clause 8 is the long-form IP podcast hosted by Eli Mazour, featuring conversations with the people and forces shaping the patent system.

    Its audience includes sophisticated in-house counsel, judges, IP policymakers, senior USPTO officials, patent dealmakers, and leading practitioners. The show is designed to help listeners stay ahead of the curve by understanding not just the latest patent developments, but the personalities, incentives, and institutions behind them.

    Clause 8 features conversations that provide strategic insight into patent law, policy, innovation, licensing, and other issues affecting the IP community. Past guests have included major American innovators, federal judges, USPTO Directors, senior IP staff on Capitol Hill, in-house leaders, patent dealmakers — and Carole Baskin’s attorney from Tiger King.

    Law360 featured Clause 8 first in its 2026 list of “5 Podcasts to Keep IP Attys Entertained and Informed,” describing its guests as “a bit of a who’s who of IP law.”

    Clause 8 has also been covered or cited by Bloomberg, Courthouse News Service, Above the Law, IAM, Original Jurisdiction, and other publications.

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    Prof. Tim Hsieh on Value of District Court Judges Having Patent Expertise Apr 12, 2022
    Show notes Show Notes

    Is it preferable for patent cases to be handled by district court judges who have relevant expertise and experience? Senator Leahy can’t make up his mind.

    Leahy’s eponymous Leahy-Smith American Invents Act created the Patent Pilot Program. The program allowed federal district court judges in select districts to volunteer to handle patent cases. The goal was for certain judges to have increased expertise – and as a result – do a better job.

    However, after the program expired and Judge Alan Albright started attracting patent cases to his Waco court room in the Western District of Texas, Leahy had a change of heart. In an unprecedented letter to Supreme Court Justice Roberts, Leahy pressured Roberts to do what he can to stop Waco from being a go-to patent venue by suggesting there was something untoward about Albright’s interest in patent cases. The pressure campaign seems to have worked. In his end-of-year report, Roberts highlighted the issue and stressed “the role of district judges as generalists.”

    Eli decided to talk to an expert on the subject of patent venues - Prof. Timothy Hsieh – about this recent controversy.

    Eli also talks to Prof. Hsieh about whether how courts think about venue is outdated and his fascinating career trajectory of patent litigator turned patent examiner turned law school professor.

    Clause 8 is part of IPWatchdog and sponsored by Harrity– the go-to firm for the Patent 300 for patent preparation & prosecution.

    Episode Highlights

    [00:09] Getting to know the IP Expert: the unlikely trajectory of a patent litigator turned patent examiner turned law professor at the University of Oklahoma City.

    [07:09] From clerk to patent examiner: Hsieh talks about his federal clerkship experience before becoming an examiner at the U.S. Patent and Trademark Offices (USPTO) to work as an examiner.

    [12:10] Pit of despair: Hsieh talks about his experience as an examiner in the USPTO’s business method Technology Center.

    [17:11] Advice for patent applicants: Hsieh offers some pointers from an examiner’s perspective for what applicants can do to succeed at the USPTO.

    [20:57] TC Heartland: Hsieh talks about his the impact of TC Heartland vs. Kraft Foods, including how it’s impacting district courts in Delaware and Northern California.

    [31:54] Outdated concepts: Is federal venue jurisprudence outdated?

    [36:37] Experts vs. generalists: In a 2021 paper, law scholar Paul Gugliozza stresses that the TC Heartland case may have ended the practice of forum shopping and replaced it with judge shopping. Is that a bad thing?

    [41:14] An unprecedented writ: Writs of mandamus are only supposed to be used in the most extreme or rare circumstances. Hsieh explains why they are being used more than ever to order reversals of venue changes.

    [46:07] An ongoing problem?: TC Heartland sought to address the high concentration of patents being filed in East Texas, but now a majority of cases are moving to two states: Delaware and California. Is this an improvement?

    [55:03] Keep the spark alive: Academia is one of the most competitive career sectors. Hsieh gives advice to those who want to replicate his career path.


    This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.voiceofip.com

    Phil Warrick on Working with Sen. Coons to Improve Patent System Mar 29, 2022
    Show notes

    How is patent policy made in Congress? Few know better than Philip Warrick. Phil served as Senator Coons’ top IP advisor after Coons helped restart the Senate’s IP Subcommittee. In that role, Phil helped lead the subcommittees’ efforts to improve America’s patent system, including legislation to fix the patent eligibility mess. Those efforts were a dramatic departure from Congress’s previous fixation on the “patent troll” narrative.

    After Coons friend and fellow Delawarean, Joe Biden, was elected as president, the innovation community was hopeful that Coons would use his top role on the Subcommittee to prioritize patent issues within the Biden administration and Congress.

    However, Democrat Senator Leahy had other ideas and took over as the top Democrat on the Subcommittee. Since that time, the Subcommittee has moved in a very different, anti-patent direction and Leahy's views have won out in seemingly every major administration decision related to patents.

    Yet, in another twist, Leahy has announced that he is retiring and won’t seek re-election in ‘22. So, Coons is likely to return to his role as the top Democrat on the IP Subcommittee.

    On this episode, Eli talks to Phil about what it was like to work for Senator Coons, how to effectively lobby on patent issues, and big tech's influence on patent policy.

    Episode Highlights:

    [00:07] Meet the expert: Few know IP law better than Philip Warrick.

    [01:53] Getting to know patents: As an undergraduate student, Warrick knew he had an interest in law. The interest led him to his first job in the field — before he ever set foot in law school.

    [04:54] A career curveball: Warrick never planned to work on Capitol Hill, but things changed when opportunity knocked.

    [11:38] Creating a network: Warrick shares one of the most important lessons he learned on the Hill, an environment where many are chasing their own agenda.

    [14:59] Working across the aisle: Warrick discusses the bills and initiatives he worked to push forward with representatives across the political spectrum, including with former podcast guest Brad Watts.

    [18:35] Finding a solution: Coons’ team hoped drafting legislation would clarify Section 101 of U.S. patent code, a clause often confused with Section 112. The hearings didn’t go the way he hoped.

    [28:35] Hope for a better solution: The drafted bill didn’t quite achieve the outcome they had hoped for, but that doesn’t mean the future is bleak.

    [32:09] Building stronger patents: An ongoing challenge at the forefront of Sen. Coons’ concerns for patents in America is getting the Stronger Patents Act passed. The law would make it easier and less costly for patent holders to enforce their patents.

    [40:41] Finding common ground: Warrick discusses the dynamic between Sen. Coons and Sen. Tillis, who were on opposite sides of the aisle and how it affected their efforts on patent law.

    [42:58] The future of IP in the Senate: As Sen. Patrick Leahy, current chair of the IP subcommittee, plans to retire in two years, Warrick hopes conversations around patent law will remain in conversations on the Hill.

    [43:58] A patent-unfriendly administration?: The Biden administration has taken a position far from what Sen. Coons would have chosen, Warrick says.

    [46:56] A complex dynamic: The most surprising thing to Warrick was the complicated relationships and dynamics between offices and staffers. “And there certainly are situations where people are looking to get things done, they want to cut deals … [and] where you're not debating one bill in isolation.”

    [51:52] A voice in the debate: For companies and organizations with patents, even minor changes in patent law could have a major impact. Collaboration goes a long way in ensuring your voice is heard when these issues are on the table.

    [55:28] Know the playing field: If an organization wants to influence legislation, the foremost important factor is understanding the debate and the issue’s impact. That way, they can propose a viable solution.


    This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.voiceofip.com

    Louis Carbonneau on Brokering Patents After the Patent Gold Rush Mar 15, 2022
    Show notes The golden age for patent brokers has come and gone but that doesn’t stop Louis Carbonneau.

    “There are very, very few patent brokers nowadays. We’re just one of a handful left. And frankly, we get about four or five portfolios every single day that people want us to broker. We only say yes 1% or 2% of the time.”

    As one of the world’s leading patent brokers, the CEO and Founder of Tangible IP has brokered over 4,500 patents and boasts close to 30 years in the industry.

    With experience as Microsoft’s former General Manager of International IP & Licensing, Carbonneau has sat on many sides of the table. He shares his adventures in the industry (and lessons learned).

    Carbonneau tells behind-the-scenes stories from his time at Microsoft, the common pitfalls of patent licensing, and why price isn’t always an essential part of the conversation when buying and selling intellectual property.

    “Some people will not even want to acquire patents for free if they don’t like the patents because then they have to start paying for maintenance fees and prosecution fees. It’s like a free puppy. It’s only free for a few hours, and after that, you start paying,” says Carbonneau.

    The episode also offers insight into a typical IP transaction at Carbonneau’s firm, helping those interested in selling their patents to understand what brokers — and buyers — are looking for in a deal.

    Episode Highlights

    [02:45] Dinosaurs and Microsoft: joining Microsoft’s legal team as a result of the acquisition of Softimage, the computer graphics company behind Jurassic Park.

    [05:18] How a cross-licensing deal saved Apple: how a creative deal offered by Microsoft – in midst of its antitrust battles in the late 90s – helped save Apple.

    [08:45] From licensing products to IP: under the direction of Marshall Phelps, a new addition to Microsoft’s team, Carbonneau began harvesting the intellectual property from Microsoft’s many research labs around the world.

    [14:13] Balancing budgets: the complicated role of finance in licensing and monetizing intellectual property within a corporation. Which department owns a patent can make a big difference in how the intellectual property is managed.

    [17:38] The golden age of patent brokerage: the creation of Intellectual Ventures and how he eventually founded his own brokerage firm, Tangible IP.

    [24:49] What makes a good deal?: Carbonneau walks us through what makes (or doesn’t make) a good patent transaction. Ultimately, it is challenging to calculate the ROI of large deals.

    [28:11] Changing tides: Carbonneau explains the change in the patent landscape as a result of the creation of the Patent Trial and Appeal Board (PTAB) and the subject matter eligibility mess.

    [32:53] A typical transaction: Carbonneau outlines his brokerage firm’s intake process and share what he’s looking for when he’s helping to sell patent assets.

    [37:10] The dirty little secret: Carbonneau shares the strategy used by many big corporations.

    [39:35] Seller pitfalls: Who’s looking to sell their patents and what do they do wrong?

    [44:47] Patent prosecution is ‘part art, part science’: discussion of what makes patents valuable and best practices for patent law.

    [49:37] The perfect patent: It’s hard to find the patent that everybody likes and it’s not always about price. Carbonneau talks about the challenges he faces helping his buyers find patents worth acquiring.

    [52:46] The IP ecosystem: Carbonneau walks us through the many players within the intellectual property industry and discusses the division of labor for the buying and selling of intellectual property.

    [59:48] You’ve been warned: the challenges of being a patent broker with the current legal landscape


    This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.voiceofip.com

    Ryan Abbott on Why Patent Law Should Recognize AI Inventors Mar 01, 2022
    Show notes

    Good lawyers effectively deal with the present. Very few have what it takes to create the future. Professor Ryan Abbott is doing just that.

    He leads the DABUS project: the first time ever an AI machine has been named as an inventor on a patent application. Most thought that the project was an interesting academic exercise that was unlikely to go anywhere. Some - uncharitably - dismissed it as "a publicity stunt."

    Yet, the DABUS project did get a patent in South Africa. And, an Australian judge ruled that AI machine can be recognized as an inventor. Even more significantly, the DABUS project successfully raised awareness about the issue of AI inventorship among policy makers all over the world.

    But what does it mean for an AI system to be named as an inventor in the real world?

    In this episode, Abbott makes his case for the skeptics: Identifying AI as the inventor on patents is morally and commercially important. He also explains how to judge whether the human pushing the buttons is as much an inventor as the AI they’re programming.

    On this episode, Eli and Prof. Abbott talk about the Artificial Inventor Project, whether everything will be “obvious” in the future, and Prof. Abbott’s fascinating new book “The Reasonable Robot: Artificial Intelligence and the Law.”

    Episode Highlights:

    [1:41] Meet our guest: Abbott explains how degrees in law and medicine pushed him towards patents. He worked for the World Health Organization (WHO) on patents related to life sciences.

    [6:17] The eureka moment: Around 2013, Abbott noticed that life sciences companies were using AI to scan through large databases for information, which prompted research and inventions. Normally, people who did that would be named on the resulting patents.

    [8:32] The case for AI inventors: Based on his observations, Abbott outlines his academic argument for naming AI on patents: It incentivizes humans to build machines that come up with inventions, which is exactly the purpose of the patent system.

    [11:39] Meet DABUS: Abbott discusses how he teamed up with Dr. Stephen Thaler, who invented a type of AI called DABUS and is a pioneer of naming AI on patents. DABUS is the AI identified in patents Abbott is defending in courts around the world as a leader of the Artificial Inventor Project.

    [12:13] Breaking the mold: The Artificial Inventor Project is breaking new ground with its attempts to name AI as inventors. AI has only just become capable of contributing to inventions — and patent lawyers still advise their clients to name themselves, not their machines.

    [13:23] Copying copyright: Copyright law is ahead of patent law when it comes to AI involvement. It’s possible to guess how AI will work in patents by looking at the technology’s role in copyright cases.

    [18:00] Break law, don’t make law: Abbott explains why he chose to litigate on behalf of AI inventors, rather than lobby, and why he picked the specific cases he did.

    [23:51] The human touch: Humans are still involved in AI inventions — so aren’t they really the inventors? Abbott addresses the tricky topic of weighing human versus AI involvement.

    [28:01] Assessing merit: Abbott explains why it can be helpful to compare AI involvement to a team of people working on a new invention in a lab. What role does someone have to play to earn credit?

    [30:12] Why AI inventorship matters: Despite the difficulties, naming AI inventors is worth it. Abbott makes the case that there is a moral responsibility to accurately identify who — or what — invented something. Not to mention the impact on entitlement to the IP.

    [37:36] What’s next for the Artificial Inventor Project: Abbott and Thaler's work raises broader discussions about tech and the law, and how that relationship should work.

    [46:25] Are these lawsuits artificial?: Abbott responds to accusations that his project is a publicity stunt.

    [48:12] A problem prediction: Abbott admits that he has concerns about how hindsight bias could affect AI inventor claims, with regards to obviousness analysis.

    [49:38] Mixed messages: How differences in the way we treat driverless cars versus Uber drivers reveal our double standards about AI — and how this limits the way we use it.

    [52:43] A note for the next legal generation: Abbott’s advice for future lawyers: Study up on tech as well as technicalities. Your clients will thank you.


    This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.voiceofip.com

    Prof. Dan Brown and Dan Jr.’s Patent Battle Against a Retail Giant Feb 15, 2022
    Show notes Prof. Dan Brown and his son, Dan Brown Jr., are straight out of central casting. Prof. Brown, the father, grew up in a working-class Irish family on Chicago’s South Side before eventually becoming a professor of engineering at Northwestern University. Dan Jr. is a moppy-haired marketing genius who is now President of LoggerHead Tools. As a result of a father-son argument, Prof. Brown invented an award-winning tool called the Bionic Wrench and pursued the audacious idea of manufacturing it in entirely in America. Sears positioned itself to become their exclusive retailer when the initial order of 300,000 units sold out between Black Friday and Christmas. Unfortunately, not long after, Sears started pressuring them to manufacture it in China to lower the price of the bionic wrench.

    “It was pure greed. And we said no,” Prof. Brown said.

    When Prof. Brown refused, Sears got another company, Apex, to make a knockoff of the bionic wrench in China. So, LoggerHead Tools, represented by Skiermont Derby, took them to court. They were on their way to being vindicated when the death of the original federal judge, assigned to the case, put that into doubt.

    Today, they continue to tell the story of their “David and Goliath” battle in hopes that the patent law can be improved to support America’s innovators.

    “This is not the type of due process you think someone should have to go through,” Dan Jr. says. “Where is the reward?"

    Join us on this episode of Clause 8 as we talk to Prof. Brown and Dan Jr. about the twists and turns of their story, why they continue to have faith in America’s patent system, and what it’s like to work with your dad.

    Episode Highlights

    [03:35] A patent partnership: By the time they obtained the patent for the Bionic Wrench, Prof. Brown had already secured patents for many other products. His son, Dan Jr., learned the ins and outs of patenting by shadowing his father.

    [06:15] The Bionic Wrench is born: The lightbulb went on when Dan Jr. tried to use robo-grip adjustable pliers to change the blade on a lawnmower.

    [11:44] Keeping it in the U.S.: Prof. Brown talks about how his insistence on manufacturing the Bionic Wrench in America was due to how he was raised and what he saw when he brought products to China as a consultant.

    [17:25] Sears pitches a deal: Sears placed a major order for LoggerHead's Bionic Wrench and it turns into an incredibly successful item for Sears. However, Sears is not happy when the Browns refuse to lower the price by outsourcing manufacturing to China.

    [22:53] The smoking gun emails: Sears tried to make a similar product to avoid patent issues but couldn’t get the tool to work

    [26:51] National coverage: The media is not always friendly to patent owners but Prof. Brown and Dan Jr.’s story got the attention of the New York Times and ABC News.

    [35:31] A new judge turns the tables: After the original judge on the trial died and the jury ruled in favor of LoggerHead Tools, a new judge upended the verdict in a way that surprised all sides .

    [38:46] Rule 36: A 15 minute hearing and a two-line decision from the Federal Circuit ended their battle.

    [45:57] It’s about more than a patent: How LoggerHead Tools managed to survive after the battle with Sears.

    [49:37] The bright side: Dan Jr. created the InstaShield product that they come up with during the pandemic.

    [55:29]: Made in China: Prof. Brown and Dan Jr. discuss the America's reliance on other countries for essential products and the challenge it presents for American manufacturers.

    [58:56] A broken system: Prof. Brown presents some potential solutions to the broken patent system, starting with making willful infringement a crime, reassessing the Patent Trial and Appeal Board, and working toward a more inclusive, equitable industry.

    [1:06:43] The family business: “You have to learn how to do a lot of deep breathing and meditation,” Dan Jr.


    This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.voiceofip.com

    Josh Landau - On Lobbying for Weaker Patent Rights and “Making a PB&J Sandwich” Jul 06, 2021
    Show notes

    The first episode of this season of Clause 8 featured the most recent USPTO Director - Andrei Iancu - discussing his efforts to strengthen America’s patent system over the last three years. One of the most publicly vocal opponents of those efforts was Josh Landau, patent counsel at the Computer and Communications Industry Association (CCIA). Now that those views are in ascendancy in the Biden administration and Congress, it made sense to finish this season by talking to Josh.

    It was Josh who first broke the news on CCIA’s Patent Progress blog that Sen. Patrick Leahy was taking the top Democrat slot on the Senate’s IP Subcommittee from Sen. Chris Coons. Coons helped restart the subcommittee two years earlier and was the most significant Democratic supporter of stronger patent rights on Capitol Hill. The blog post signaled that CCIA’s patent policy ally is now in charge.

    In this episode, Josh shares his thoughts on the role of the CCIA in the patent debate and his strong views on various patent-related policy issues:

    “I will actually push back on the idea that section 101 is particularly unclear. The problem is not that it's unclear. The problem is that in many cases or some cases, the judges of the Federal Circuit or attorneys don't like what the outcome is.”

    Josh also discusses effective patent policy advocacy in general, where the patent pendulum will swing under the Biden administration, and the low point for “patent quality.” Josh and Eli also discuss whether the patent system is unfair in any way for patent owners.

    For anyone wanting to follow in Josh’s career footsteps, his advice is this:

    “It's hard to get work in policy without having worked in policy. If you're interested in this, try and find roles in government, try and find roles on the Hill to know some level of what the policy sphere is like.”

    On this episode:

    • The role of the CCIA in the patent debate
    • The failure of Section 101 legislation in the last Congress
    • The “patent quality” problem
    • How the Patent Trial and Appeal Board (PTAB) operates
    • Patent policy advocacy on Capitol Hill
    • Patent policy in Trump v Biden administration
    • Is the patent system unfair to patent owners in any way?
    • Why do different patent attorneys have such different views of the patent system?
    • The “peanut butter and jelly sandwich” patent

    Links:

    • Senator Leahy to Take Chair of IP Subcommittee
    • US Inventors organization

    This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.voiceofip.com

    Mark Han: Applying Lessons from Intellectual Ventures to Helping Innovative Doctors Jun 29, 2021
    Show notes

    “Jeff [Roh] knew for every person like [him], who is able to succeed, there's countless others who aren't. They just fall flat because they encounter resistance and give up. And so he was on a mission to make other inventors and surgeons be successful as well."

    Don’t miss this latest episode of Clause 8 with President and Chief Legal Officer of IntuitiveX, Mark Han, about the new business model they have created to help innovators in the medical field.

    Mark cut his teeth working for the largest and most notorious “patent troll” Intellectual Ventures (IV). During the episode, Mark talks about what he learned from that experience and why he’s now excited to be in the business of bringing new products to market and building new companies at IntuitiveX.

    “A lot of the large companies like Medtronic, they used to have a massive R&D team in-house. A ton of individuals whose jobs are just to invent new things and develop new products from within that company. Now, the model has shifted and those same companies are looking toward smaller companies to de-risk these ideas for them and get a little market traction."

    Mark talks about how IntuitiveX uses the patent process to advance breakthroughs in medtech and life sciences in ways that are not possible in other fields.

    “What IntuitiveX does differently is, we actually want to either invent or help inventors. And we specialize in the medical and life science space. We help clients protect their ideas, develop prototypes, test, validate, raise money, set up manufacturing capabilities, regulatory expertise to get FDA approval, and then ultimately bring the product to market.”

    This is an incredibly insightful episode exploring first hand how the patent process helps innovative individuals and small companies bring their medtech ideas to fruition.

    On today’s podcast:

    • Intellectual Ventures
    • How to identify and acquire valuable portfolios
    • The “patent troll” narrative
    • How IntuitiveX is advancing medtech
    • What IntuitiveX look for in an innovators and their inventions
    • Taking Amplify Surgical from idea to market

    Links:

    • Intuitive X
    • Amplify Surgical

    This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.voiceofip.com

    Chris Agrawal: AIPF’s President on Growing $1 Billion Portfolio & Succeeding in IP Field Jun 22, 2021
    Show notes

    Chris Agrawal is President of the Association of Intellectual Property Firms and partner at Bookoff McAndrews. He was instrumental in one of the biggest patent transactions in history and the reason Eli got into patent law in the first place. If you’re a startup founder or an executive at a growth stage company worrying about patent protection or wondering how to scale your patent program, download and listen to this episode today.

    On how AIPF helped IP firms navigate the pandemic:

    “I was really thankful to have the association because we were all talking with each other and sharing information about what we were doing. And so it was really helpful as the pandemic was hitting - in late February and early March of 2020 - [to be] talking to each other about what we were seeing internationally from our clients, from other firms.”

    Learn how Chris approaches building a valuable portfolio of patents:

    “The first place I start is looking at the business. What does the business look like today? And what do they need first and foremost? And then from there, start looking at more of the nice to haves. Is there something else where there's real revenue, but it's really not connected to our business? Where can we turn the portfolio itself into an asset separate from our business?”

    How he thinks about monetizing valuable patents:

    “In general, you start to map out the market. The first place you look at with any deal is who are the infringers? What does the market look like for these claims? Who needs the claims? Who's practising the claims? And what does that market look like? Who are the big players? And also, who is in need of a portfolio like this?”

    Finding the right balance for the client relying on outside counsel:

    “There's this kind of dance that will happen at certain points in prosecution with an examiner where you have to kind of really quickly make some decisions on the fly about what deals to make with an examiner . . .how to change scope here and there a little bit. I think ideally you want to empower your outside counsel to be able to have a little bit of leeway with examiners so that, so that that dance can happen.

    I think it's really powerful if you can empower your counsel to do that.”

    For all this and more, don’t miss Chris Agrawal on this week’s episode of Clause 8.

    On today’s podcast:

    • Perspective as AIPF’s president on how firms have been able to succeed over the last year
    • Building and selling $1 billion patent portfolio
    • Prosecuting old patent applications that read on new technologies
    • Scaling a patent portfolio for startups and growth stage companies
    • Strategically thinking about role of in-house IP counsel
    • Unique challenges of handling patent prosecution work
    • Priceless advice to law firm attorneys
    • Staying on top of patents as GC

    Links:

    • Chris Agrawal
    • Christopher Agrawal
    • President of the Association of IP Firms (AIPF)

    This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.voiceofip.com

    Welcome to Clause 8 Jun 08, 2021
    Show notes

    We hope you've enjoyed the episodes we've released so far in this season. We'll be taking a short break and will release the rest of the season very soon.

    For more information, visit voiceofip.com. And, if you would like to learn more about my firm, visit harrityllp.com.


    This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.voiceofip.com

    Alan Albright - On Becoming the Go-To Judge for Patent Cases Jun 01, 2021
    Show notes

    If you’ve ever wondered how and why Judge Alan D Albright - of the Western District Texas - became America’s go-to judge for patent cases, you don’t want to miss this episode.

    Before Judge Albright was confirmed in 2018, less than 10 patent cases had been filed in Waco district in its entire history. In 2020 alone, he took on almost 800 new patent cases, accounting for 20% of all new patent cases filed in the US last year.

    “Having practised all those years, I get that 99% of the time, while it may appear that the dispute is trivial, it's really important. It's very binary, and whatever I rule is going to drop, not maybe dramatically, but it's going to have an impact.”

    This episode covers why Judge Albright loves handling patent cases, his plans for handling a growing docket, and his views on how a judge should handle a patent case and what makes an effective patent litigation counsel.

    “The best math teacher you're ever going to have is someone who really understands math, so that when they're explaining it to you, they make it simple enough for you to understand. It's the same with patent cases. Which is, find unicorns who have such a high level of technical understanding that they can then teach it to a jury through the witnesses.”

    Judge Albright is as transparent in this episode as he is in the courtroom. So if you’re wondering how to make your case more efficient, how you can clerk for him, or why it’s easier to predict where to be struck by lightning than how to become a district court judge, don’t miss him on this week’s Clause 8.

    On today’s podcast:

    • Judge Albright’s love for patent cases & why it’s not really work for him
    • Plan to handle growing docket of patent cases
    • Getting into patent law as the youngest magistrate judge in history
    • Why many district court judges aren’t interested in handling patent cases and how it impacts their resolution
    • Example set by Judge John Ward and Eastern District of Texas
    • Why patent owners deserve a jury trial
    • Picking effective patent litigation counsel
    • Discovery disputes
    • Approach to attorneys filing transfer motions
    • Advice to trial attorneys for preparing and being effective
    • Navigating Federal Circuit decisions and focusing on being a good trial judge
    • Following press coverage & commitment to transparency
    • Clerking for Judge Alan Albright
    • Why you shouldn’t - or possibly should - wear python boots to the courthouse

    Links:

    • US District Judge Alan Albright – US District Court

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