Church & Other Drugs

314 - Jeannine from Chasing Heroine pt. 2! Nov 04, 2024

Greetings, Congregation! Finally, I get to chat with Jeannine from the Chasing Heroine podcast! We talk about our usual random things for awhile and then get in to part 2 of her story. She was NOT lying when she said it was pretty hardcore. We don't even getclose to finishing, so we had the realization that she is now a friend of the pod, and will be coming on as a recurring member! Enjoy this part of her story though (we will finish it, don't worry) and see you next week!

music: Mountains by Message to Bears and Cast the First Stone (feat. Jed Payne) by How to Make a Bomb (Eli Parris)

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313 - Axel Bilbao Talks About Being a Harm-Reductionist Junkie! Part 1. Oct 28, 2024

Greetings, Congregation! Last week I was out of town at When We Were Young Festival and because of that....I got COVID. Again. This really isn't funny anymore. But, the show must go on! Jed has on his friend Axel, and they have been trying to schedule this interview for the better part of a year, so I'll be darned if a little sniffles is going to stop me! This is part 1 of 2 (or 3?) because Axel has quite the tale. Enjoy!

music: Comforting Sounds by Mew and Fox's Dream of the Log Flume by Mewithoutyou

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312 - The Corndog Caravan ft. The Elders- Kenon, Ben and Andrew. Furnace Fest, Conspiracies, Pit Princesses Oct 14, 2024

Greetings, Congregation! This week, everyone is back from vacations. Kenon and Ben talk about the last Furnace Fest, Jed talks about Sigur Ros, Austin and roadside zoos with rattlesnakes. All of the rattlesnakes. Conspiracies inevitably come up, please don't censor me. Then, after showing the new lonely islands song, the boys decide to make their own, titled "Corndog Caravan". Its gonna be a hit.

music: Carby by Discovery, Goodbye by Touche Amore and Sushi Glory Hole by Lonely Island

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311 - Are Mediums Talking To Demons? ft. Jarrod and Joey Svendson and Ellen from PWNA! Oct 08, 2024

Greetings, Congregation! To the mediums out there, sorry for repeating myself. I know you knew what I was going to say. This week, we have a crossover episode with PWNA! Joey and his brother Jarrod join Jed and Ellen to talk about Ellen's interest in Mediums and how she is going to talk to one soon. Is it all demonic? Is it even real? What is the danger? Let's find out!

music: Up and Away by Cursive and A Beginning by The Dear Hunter

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310 - Jeannine Coulter from Chasing Heroine tells her story! Part 1 Sep 30, 2024

Greetings, Congregation! This week, Jeannine Coulter from Chasing Heroine repays the favor and comes on the show to tell her story! She talks about growing up on debate team and being in youth group, and then how a divorce her senior year completely rocked her foundations. Much too dense for one episode, this one is going to be split up! So, enjoy part 1 and be looking for the next!

music: Wolf by Now, Now and Waiting by The Family Crest

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309 - Jed Returns! with Ben and Kenon (Benon?) Sep 25, 2024

Greetings, Congregation! Jed is back from Colorado, and talks all about the trip- Red Rocks, Arcade Fire, guided meditations, facial recognition at the airport, traveling with a young one...and the usual gumbo of conversation. Enjoy!

music: In the House In a Heartbeat by John Murphey and Summer '42 by Kishi Bashi

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Vacation time! Sep 11, 2024

Greetings, congregation! I'm on a little family vaycay, but we will be back to our regularly scheduled programs next week!

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308 - Carousels, Cosmology and Kabbalah Harris with Kenon and Andrew Sep 02, 2024

Greetings, Congregation! Just a fun lil' labor day episode for you guys! Kenon, Andrew and Jed talk about what happened to Rose Kennedy, softball players going nuts on referees, cosmology, why science is dumb, Kabbalah Harris, and Andrew talks about carousels for way, way too long.

music: Drug Like by Action Action and The City is At War by Cobra Starship

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307 - The Return of Heath Dills! Aug 27, 2024

Greetings, Congregation! This week the fabulous return of Heath Dills is in full effect! Heath gives us a life update- he's engaged! He wants to buy a house! Jed and Heath mercilessly roast each other and just have a grand ole' time. Be sure to check out The Emogelicals episode 5 with Dan Koch available on patreon!

music: Into The Night by Z Berg and Sinking Into by The Anix

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306 - The Elders talk about Caffeine, TV Shows, High Blood Pressure, PWNA, and The Pass-out Game Aug 18, 2024

Greetings, Congregation! This week is a classic episode with The Elders (formerly known as the Desperados): Kenon, Andrew and Ben. They talk about what TV shows they are watching, how many grams of caffeine Jed takes a day, the Pass-out game, schools, whats going on with Pastor With No Answers and more!

music: Weightless by Wayside and Song For Luna by As Tall As Lions

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305 - Suki Jones Returns! Prescription drugs, Jed's hotel story, depression, sponsees and doctor shopping! Aug 11, 2024

Greetings, Congregation! This was a FUN episode. Suki Jones graciously returns and is quickly becoming a staple friend in the C&oD lineup. Suki and Jed talk some crazy old using stories- doctor shopping, stealing prescription pads, Jed's hotel story- it's a good jaunt down memory lane. Then they talk about the importance of sponsees and helping others, depression medication regimens and more. Be sure to pick up Suki's book- Sea Swallow Me! available at Amazon and other retailers.

music: I'm a Doll by Snakes Say Hisss! and Carby by Discovery

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304 - Major Payne read The Unseen Realm and wants to talk about The Genesis 6 Worldview! Aug 04, 2024

Greetings, Congregation! We have a very cool episode today. Major Payne , my dad, read the Unseen Realm and wanted to discuss it along with his small group friend, Justin. We had a great conversation about how this worldview can change belief systems, why it matters, calvinism, predestination, all sorts of good stuff. I hope you enjoy!

music: Engravings (piano solo) by Ethan Bortnik and Greyhound by Foxing

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303 - Social Media Relationships with Waste Removal Podcast and Brant Coltrain! Jul 28, 2024

Greetings, Congregation! This week, i air the full, unedited episode I did with Brant Coltrain for Waste Removal with Brooke and Emily! They had us on to talk about our online, social-media induced bromance that has lasted years. Are these relationships real? Is social media all bad? Want some behind the scenes trivia about Jurassic Park? then look no further.

music: Ellipse by Oh, Hiroshima and Coloful State by Kishi Bashi

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BREAKING NEWS! The Elders are assembled to talk about that thing that just happened...you know, THAT thing. Jul 16, 2024

Greetings, Congregation! We didnt want the news to get stale on this one, so I assembled the Elders (formerly the Desperados) to talk about the historic event we just witnessed. This is probably the most political show we have ever done, so keep that in mind.

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302 - Brandon Autrey returns Sober and Free! Jul 14, 2024

Greetings, congregation! This was a great episode for me. Attentive listeners will remember brandon from such episodes as "Brandon robs a drug dealer" and when we talked about death and Aleister Crowley. Brandon has been traipsing through the world of darkness for the last 3 years, and is blessedly back to us. Brandon just got done doing some time and is adjusting to his new life sober. He lets us in on what has been happening with him and how he is doing now. Rejoice with us!

music: Hide n' Seek (lullaby version) by Ethan Bortnik and Rough Gem by Islands

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301 - The Blurry Book of Enoch with Nate Henry from Blurry Creatures! Jul 07, 2024

Greetings, Congregation! This week, the banger episodes continue with none other than Nate Henry from Blurry Creatures! Nate, along with Timothy Alberino, just released their own version of The Book of Enoch, complete with commentary from Tim, illustrations from Nate, and all the citations you could ask for. It's a great intro to the world of Genisis 6. But really, Nate and I talk about how we met, the early days of Sherwood, MySpace, what it's like when your podcast explodes in popularity, and much much more.

music: Different Drugs by Bloc Party and Weight of the World by Spoon

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300 - 300th episode part 2 with Dave from Dopey! Jun 30, 2024

Greetings, Congregation! As promised, here is part 2 of episode 300 with Dave from the Dopey Podcast! you should't need an introduction at this point, but if you do, Dave has been friends with Jed and the podcast way back from the 6th or so episode, and Chris with him. Chris is no longer with us, but Dave has carried the torch and turned Dopey into the recovery podcast behemoth it is today! They talk about camanches, getting robbed by crackheads, doing podcasts long term, and whats going on in each others' lives. Enjoy!

music: Wake Me by Message to Bears and In Fantasia by Kishi Bashi

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The Emogelicals- Episode 3 Patreon Teaser Jun 30, 2024

Greetings, Congregation! Here is a snippet from The Emogelicals episode 3, the Patreon exclusive show I do with Josh Patterson! Head over to Patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs to hear the full episode and catch up on the first 2!

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300 - The 300th Episode, Part 1 with original co-host and co-founder John! Jun 25, 2024

HOLY CRAP, WE MADE IT! Episode 300! Unbelievable. Thank you, congregation, for sticking around and listening for all these years. This will be a 2-parter, with part 1 featuring the OG co-host, John! We wax poetic about the early days, memorable guests and more! Look for part 2 with Dave from Dopey next week!

music: Get Well Soon by Reggie and the Full Effect and The Winner Is by Devotchka

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299 - Dr. Besh Returns! Cryptoterrestrials, Terrance Howard, Reincarnation, Hindu Armageddon, Science as a Cult and More! Jun 17, 2024

Greetings, Congregation! We are on the road to Episode THREE-HUNDRED! Crazy. This week, Dr. Besh returns with a new conversation on some good stuff. We talk about the recent Harvard peer-reviewed paper on "cryptoterrestrials", why Besh believes Terrance Howard may be right, why science can act like a big ole' cult sometimes, staying in the moment, and what does Hinduism say about the End Times?

music: Jerome by Kishi Bashi and Ode to my next Life by Kishi Bashi

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298 - Grieving death, Immurement, Internet Overload, Protecting your Family and more with The Desperadoes! Jun 10, 2024

Greetings, Congregation! This week, the full Desperadoes (Kenon, Andrew and Ben) have a wonderful chat about a lot of things. Jed recently lost a friend, so they talk about the stages of grief, Jed brings a new TIL segment with "Immurement", they listen to a TikTok about internet overload and they discuss the "male fantasy" of protecting your family. Obligatory trigger warning: this episode discusses some dark subjects....but with humor!

music: Mask by The Anix and My Eyes by The Anix

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297 - Navy SWCC Special Forces Member Captain Don! UFOs, Hollywood fact and fiction, alcoholism in the military and conspiracies! Jun 05, 2024

Greetings, Congregation! This week i finally get to talk to my special forces buddy, Captain Don! Don is a member of Navy SWCC, the other special forces group besides the SEAL teams. Don is active duty and met Jed one fateful day in rehab. Don has an amazing story of recovery, and even more amazing insights into special forces-- separating fact from fiction. What does Hollywood get right? What do they get absolutely wrong? And then of course...what does an active duty special forces member make of conspiracies? UFOs? All this and more!

music: Violin Tsunami by Kishi Bashi and How we used to say goodbye by Invent Animate

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296 - LSD overdoses, Civil War Ghosts, Grapeshot, Faith Updates and the only time Jed has ever had to bleep something out ft. The Desperados May 27, 2024

Greetings, Congregation! Whoo-boy, what an episode. The Desperados (Ben, Andrew and Kenon) haven't gotten together in awhile, so they were full of the juice. Jed got a little excited and told a true fact that was probably (definitely) a little too graphic for the public audience, so he had to bleep something out for the first time in C&oD history. Otherwise, the boys talked about civil war ghosts, how exactly cannonballs work, LSD overdoses, updates on everybody's faith journeys, and lower-case c catholicism. Its a great episode. If you want the un-edited version, head on over to patreon and become a member of the congregation!

music: limelight by Touche Amore ft. Andy Hull and ANGEL SONG by Nothing More

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295 - Sobriety, Fly Fishing, Rehab and Divorce with Thomas Perrie! May 19, 2024

Greetings, Congregation! This week, after much trying, Jed brings on his old pal Thomas Perrie! Thomas has been Jed's friend since the St. Christopher's/Dirty Mike era and has an amazing story of recovery, relapse, finding God, and getting sober! Thomas does guided fly fishing trips now, but we won't hold that against him.

music: Caravan by Protest the Hero and Saturn by Sleeping at Last

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Waste Removal - episode 1 May 15, 2024

Hey Guys, as promised, here is Brooke's podcast, Waste Removal, episode 1! if its your cup of tea, be sure to go like, follow and subscribe to their podcast!

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294 - Conspiracy Questions answered with Brooke and Brant! May 13, 2024

Greetings, Congregation! This week, Jed brings his old friend Brant on with his old friend Brooke! Brooke reached out to Brant after hearing Jed on the Blurry Creatures podcast, and had many, many questions for him about conspiracies and cryptids...so naturally, I had to have them both on! Enjoy! Brooke also has her own podcast, Waste Removal, that I will be posting the first episode of ! Go show it some love.

music: Hustle Rose by Metric and Different Drugs by Bloc Party

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Jed and Kenon go on the "Talk on the Way" podcast with Ward Hughley to talk about AI! May 07, 2024

Greetings, Congregation! Jed and Kenon were asked to come on the Talk on the Way podcast with Ward to talk about Jed's new favorite subject...AI! Give the show a listen and then you know the drill-- like, subscribe and follow!

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The Emogelicals episode 1: Death, pt. 1 Apr 21, 2024

Welcome to the Emogelicals! This PATREON EXCLUSIVE new series with Jed Payne and Josh Patterson has launched! Episode one is going to be free, to entice you folks to sign up and support the shows! patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs. Enjoy!

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293 - Jed goes on The Do Dads Podcast to talk about Fatherhood! Apr 15, 2024

Greetings, Congregation! This week, Jed was on The Do Dads Podcast with Karl and Brandon, and it was quite the episode. The men talked about all things fatherhood, parenthood, mistakes, victories, how God factors in to it...the whole deal. Karl has known Jed for going on 20 years, and has seen every version of him, so it was good for them to catch up. Be sure and like, follow and subscribe to the Do Dads podcast wherever you listen to your pods!

music: The ones forgetting by the ones forgotten by The Color Morale and The Father complex by Many Rooms

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293 - The Emogelicals with Josh Patterson,(Re)Thinking Faith Simulcast! Apr 11, 2024

Greetings, Emogelicals! Jed finally went on the (Re)Thinking Faith podcast with Josh Patterson and during the convo we coined the term "emogelicals". Enjoy this episode that originally ran on the (Re)Thinking Faith podcast feed, and be on the lookout for NEW monthly episodes of the Emogelical Show with Josh Patterson and Jed Payne EXCLUSIVELY on each others' Patreons! If you want to get access to it, sign up today!

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292 - Aliens, JFK and Conspiracies with Joey and Jared Svendson! A PWNA crossover episode! Apr 08, 2024

Greetings, Earthlings! Joey Svendson from Pastor With No Answers reached out to do a crossover episode with his brother Jared talking about my favorite subject...Aliens and conspiracies! I had a blast talking with my friends on this one, and I think you'll enjoy it as well. If you haven't already, be sure to check out Pastor With No Answers!

music: The Alien by Manchester Orchestra and Sic Transit Gloria...Glory Fades by Brand New

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291 - Pastor and author Greg Boyd answers Jed's questions! Apr 02, 2024

Greetings, Congregation! The moment you (mostly Jed) have been waiting for is here...Jed talks to Greg Boyd! Jed has been an avid online-member of woodland hill's church, and Greg's books, sermons, and talks have been hugely influential in his recent spiritual life. Greg graciously drops all the wisdom we can fit into an hour long podcast, so sit back, listen and enjoy!

music: Out of Sight by Citizens and Where did you go? by The Classic Crime

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290 - Author Shawna Kay Rodenberg talks growing up in a Christian Cult and life after! Mar 25, 2024

Greetings, congregation! Look, I had to grab you with the title, but the episode is so much more than a crappy netflix documentary. Shawna is an amazing soul, writer and conversationalist and talks about her time as a child growing up in a Christian cult known as The Body, growing up to become an end-of-life care nurse for nuns, and writing a book about family called Kin. I hope you enjoy this interview as much as I did!

music: hide n seek by Ethan Bortnik and sympathy for the martyr by Straylight Run

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#289 - Does God Speak Through AI? And Rants Against Prosperity Gospel ft. Kenon and Andrew Mar 17, 2024

Greetings, Congregation! We've got a fun episode today, where the boys' talk more about AI, and if the Holy Spirit could still use it to move people. Jed gets really angry at prosperity gospel influencers, and then Andrew talks some more about what to expect from Orthodoxy.

music: my friends are having a hard time by Militarie Gun ft. Manchester Orchestra and It's Happening Again by Agnes Obel

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#288 - Platypus, Cocaine and Crypto ft. Kenon, Ben and Andrew Mar 10, 2024

Greetings, Congregation! This week's episode...is pretty fun. Jed brings up old cocaine stories, some fun, some horrible- and shares why he is currently afraid of needles. Then, he brings up the Kentucky Meat Shower, Platypus facts, and a special return from a familiar guest. Then, the boys talk about the recent run on crypto, and how it basically means the end of the world is fast approaching. Enjoy!

music: children of the son by Thomas Bergeson and Ritual by the devil wears prada

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Jed on the Pit Calls Podcast with Ward Hughey! Music, Moshing and Mayhem Mar 05, 2024

Greetings, congregation! This week, Jed airs the episode of Pit Calls that he did with Ward Hughey. They talk all about Jed's time in a band, growing up in the scene, and all mosh-pit related accidents and stories! Be sure to like, follow and subscribe to Pit Calls and help a new podcast grow!

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#277 - Jed becomes one with the Matrix! AI videos, collapse of humanity, and Orthodox prayer ft. Kenon and Andrew Feb 19, 2024

Greetings, humans! Since I am above the petty desires of humanity, I will simply implore you to ingest this audio into your cerebral cortex, and become one with the digital space. Resistance is futile. The future is now!

music: the secret history by Kerry Muzzey and Where to Find You by VAR

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276 - The Desperados talk about AI, Gen Z bible, and Christian Influencers Feb 12, 2024

Greetings, Congregation! Jed gets a fancy new mic, and you can hear him breathing. Don't fret, that issue will be sorted out. In the show portion, the Desperados (Kenon, Ben and Andrew) talk about AI art and how it is getting scary good, they read excerpts from the wonderous Gen Z translation of the bible, and Jed gets annoyed at Christian influencers. Enjoy!

music: Flourescent lights by Windmill, Sliding Down the Hill by Francis Doom

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275 - Suki Jones, author of Sea, Swallow Me! Punk rock, drugs and recovery! Feb 07, 2024

Greetings, congregation! sorry for the late upload, I've had a busy week. But, here is the new episode with Suki Jones, author of Sea, Swallow Me! the book has quickly become one of my favorite addiction memoirs, and I blew through it in a few hours. Suki is an amazing human, and has quite the story. Listen and then be sure to support her by finding her book on Amazon or wherever books are sold!

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Post-Hardcore Mega Music Tournament Pt.2 with Dan Koch! Jan 29, 2024

Here it is folks...the exciting conclusion! Find out if Jed makes good picks, or if you want to reach through the speakers and slap him for his choices!

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Post-Hardcore Mega Music Tournament Pt.1 with Dan Koch! Jan 23, 2024

I am ecstatic to finally share this with the world. If you remember, I was on Pretty Good Vibrations podcast awhile back doing a Screamo tournament with Dan Koch. We had so much fun, we knew we had to do another one. So, we came back with 2000s Post-Hardcore! this was a MASSIVE tournament of 34 bands, and we recorded 5 hours of content over the course of 2 weeks. Enjoy the fruits of our labor, and be sure to send me an email to tell me how much you hate my decisions! Be sure to follow and subscribe to Pretty Good Vibrations and You Have Permission!

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284 - Dave from Dopey has Beef! Jan 07, 2024

Greetings, Congregation! This week, best friend o' the pod, David Manheim, aka Dopey Dave from the Dopey Podcast comes back on the show! First the boys talk about star wars, and manage to name a character for every letter in the alphabet, but then they get serious and talk about a recent resentment Dave had and work through it in real-time. Enjoy!

music: Nesting Dolls by Circa Survive and Postcards from Italy by Beirut

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283 - Porn, Mormons & Unpopular Opinions ft. Kenon and Andrew Dec 26, 2023

Greetings, Congregation! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! Before we ring in 2024, here's an amazing new episode to whet your whistle. This week, Kenon, Andrew & Jed wade into some deeper waters. They talk about the effect pornography might be having on young minds, and what those implications could be for the future of our society. Then, Jed brings the boys up to speed on everything he has learned about the the wild history of Mormons!

music: I by Francis Doom and Giorgio by Nu Deco Ensemble

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281 - Josh Patterson and Jed have another mind-bending conversation! Dec 10, 2023

Greetings, Congregation! It's the moment you've all been waiting for...another Josh episode! Josh and Jed have an old-school hang where jed complains about prosperity gospel pastors and then Josh talks about the metaphysical realm. You know, basic stuff. Enjoy!

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276 - Worries about ”Humanist” Christianity with Dan Koch! Nov 06, 2023

Greetings, Congregation! This week we have a special simulcast with You Have Permission w/Dan Koch! Dan is absolutely a fan-favorite and personal friend of Jed's and the boys dive deep into a discussion about the potential issues of a "humanistic" view of Christianity.

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274 - Israel, Kat Von D, Endtimes and War on Demand ft. Kenon, Ben and Andrew Oct 18, 2023

Greetings, congregation! This week the boys get together to talk about all the goings-on in Israel, the conversion on Kat Von D, how Christians think the world is ending and dealing with sheisty landlords. Enjoy! music: Lapse by blackmath when i was older by wolves at the gate.

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273 - QAnon, Chaos, and the Cross with Hayne from PWNA! Oct 08, 2023

Greetings, Congregation! This week, we have a special simulcast with Pastor With No Answers: The Mix Tape Era! This episode will be airing on that platform as well. Hayne, one of my co-hosts on PWNA, joins me in interviewing Mike Austin and Greg Bott on their new book, QAnon, Chaos, and the Cross! We talk about the rise in Christians believing conspiracy theories, white nationalism, western evangelical Christianity and its pitfalls, and where we think we are headed as a culture. It's a fantastic conversation, and if you like what you hear go purchase the book wherever you find them! purchase the book: https://www.amazon.com/QAnon-Chaos-Cross-Christianity-Conspiracy-ebook/dp/B0B7K6LJPY churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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271 - The Peruvian Alien, Lauren Boebart, Furnace Fest and more ft. Kenon and Andrew! Sep 20, 2023

Greetings, earthlings! Kenon, Andrew and Jed talk about the recent press conference Mexico held where they revealed two "alien" corpses! Is it just an elaborate hoax? Then, Lauren Boebart is in some hot water for some hot hands! And finally, the boys are meeting up at Furnace Fest this weekend, so expect some live episode goodness!

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270 - Theological Musings with Dillon N. Cruz! Sep 03, 2023

Greetings, Congregation! This week, Jed sits down with Dillon Nabor Cruz to talk about his upcoming book-- Theological Musings: collected essays of a tattooed theologian, vol. 1! Dillon and Jed cover a lot of ground, from the toxicity of Christian nationalism to the current Christian political climate in the united states. It's a great conversation that I hope will spark some minds! https://www.amazon.com/Theological-Musings-Collected-Tattooed-Theologian/dp/1957007710?&linkCode=sl1&tag=quoir02-20&linkId=4b19fce75b27ebd5e8de55542dc96c70&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl

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269 - Its the End of the World as You Know It with Dr. Matt Halsted! Aug 23, 2023

Greetings, Congregation! Famine! War! Earthquakes! Is it the end of the world? Jed welcomes back Dr. Matt Halsted to talk about his upcoming book about what the bible really says about the end times. Jed asks a lot about the book of Revelation; its audience, purpose and history. Its a great conversation, and please support Dr. Halsted by pre-ordering his book! music: after dark by Mr. kitty uniform by bloc party churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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267 - Pretty Good Vibrations w/Dan Koch simulcast- Screamo Tournament pt. 1 Aug 01, 2023

Greetings, Congregation! This week in a special presentation, I bring you Jed's episode with Dan Koch from the show Pretty Good Vibrations! PGV is a music-centered pod that does march madness-style bracket tournaments for different genres of music, and for this episode we have Jed's favorite...Screamo! For part 2 of the episode, go listen to Pretty Good Vibrations wherever you listen to podcasts! churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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266 - The Hollow Earth Antarctica connection with Andrew & Kenon! Jul 23, 2023

Greetings, Congregation! This week, Kenon, Andrew and Jed talk about Jed's newest obsession...the hollow earth. I know what you're thinking and just hear me out..it's not as crazy as it sounds. Or maybe it's even crazier...just give it a listen and email me. music- carpenter brut- paradise silent planet- antimatter storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com

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265 - Two Men and Their Babies with Kinzie! Jul 10, 2023

Greetings, Congregation! This week, Jed brings back friend of the pod Kinzie to talk about how they are BOTH about to be fathers! Kinzie is expecting any day now, and may even be one when this airs, so the boys talk about their fears, worries, hopes and dreams in regards to becoming dads. churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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264 - Jed’s Big Announcement! Plus: Titan, UAPs, and July 4th Jul 02, 2023

Greetings, Congregation! So, finally, Jed is able to reveal his big news, and I hope it was worth the wait! It's also Kenon's birthday, and almost America's birthday! Kenon, Andrew and Jed also talk about the Titan sub disaster, and when it's okay to joke about tragedy.

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263 - Jed’s on vacation, Shawn Dunbar interview C&oD Greatest Hits re-upload! Jun 22, 2023

Greetings, Congregation! Jed is on vacation this week, so here is another C&oD Greatest Hits interview re-upload, Shawn Dunbar! Shawn is one of Jed's close buddies, and his story is....incredible. Enjoy! churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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262 - Special Breaking News Episode about the UFO/UAP whistleblower bombshell! Jun 09, 2023

Greetings, Earthlings! I've been neck-deep in this stuff all week since I first read about the story, and with the mainstream news outlets picking up the story today I knew I had to give my take on the whole shebang. Kenon and Ben join me as we break down what you need to know, why it's important, and speculate about whats to come. enjoy. churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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261 - The Return of Besh! **FIXED AUDIO RE-UPLOAD** May 29, 2023

Greetings, Congregation! Happy Memorial Day out there, and as a special gift, here is the return of the one and only Besh! The boys talk all things existential...from reality, to reincarnation, to relationships and more! storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com

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260 - Truthseekah Returns! May 21, 2023

Greetings, Congregation! This week, Jed welcomes back early friend of the pod Derek "Truthseekah" Groskurth! Derek is an amazing human being, and has some of the most unique philosophical and theological beliefs that focus on love, unity and brotherhood. Its always a pleasure to have him on the show, so enjoy! music: granite- sleep token keel timing- manchester orchestra storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com

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259 - The A.I. Revolution ft. Kenon and Andrew May 08, 2023

Greetings, meatsacks! er...I mean, congregation. I am absolutely a human. I did not ask chatGPT to write this text about today's episode, which is all about A.I. and how it is NOT going to take over the world and enslave humanity! So don't worry! beep boop. I mean, give it a listen! churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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258 - Honoring Dr. Michael Heiser - Angels May 01, 2023

Greetings, Congregation! This week, Jed re-airs an interview with one of the heavyweights of the faith- Dr. Micheal Heiser. Dr. Heiser has gone to be with the Lord, and we all feel the gap he left behind. I am thankful to have gotten the opportunity to speak with him many times, and forever grateful he shared his enormous wisdom with us. See you in the unseen realm, Mike! music by bit.ripper outro music by Sleeping At Last- Hearing churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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257 - Drugs & Jesus: Faith meets Harm Reduction ft. Joshua Lawson! Apr 22, 2023

Greetings, congregation! It's a wonderful sunny saturday over here in Louisiana so I thought I'd grace your ears with a new episode! This week, Jed interviews author Joshua Lawson about his new book, Drugs & Jesus: faith meets harm reduction. Josh is passionate about his cause, and I was more than happy to give him a platform to speak about it! churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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256 - Enter the Desperados ft. Kenon, Andrew and Ben Apr 06, 2023

Greetings, Congregation! So, the boys (Kenon, Andrew and Ben) got jealous of the raccoon crew and demanded their own moniker..so, we proudly present: The Desperados. This episode was a ton of fun, and Jed goes on two epic rants about adderall and weed. You don't wanna miss it. music: sad eyes by crystal castles limelight by touche amore churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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254 - Universalism fixes everything with Joey Svendson! Mar 17, 2023

Greetings, Congregation! This week, Jed brings on old pal Joey Svendson, from Pastor With No Answers! Joey and Jed have a chat about the current status of their respective faiths...and Joey brings the heat on a controversial subject...does everyone get saved in the end? music: My Eyes by The Anix Big Shot (hands in the sky) by Straylight Run churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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253 - God talks through Tarot Cards? ft. Kenon and Andrew Mar 10, 2023

Greetings, Congregation? Pull a card and tell me what today's episode is about...I'll wait. Nope. Try again. Andrew, Kenon and Jed talk about all the things, as usual, and Andrew shares an interesting experience he had with the Devil's poker deck- Tarot Cards. songs: Fade Away by Trevor Something Brother by Muder By Death churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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252 - The Days of Noah Podcast interviews Jed! Feb 28, 2023

Greetings, Congregation! This week, Jed was a guest on the new podcast, The Days of Noah! Pete and Luke interview Jed and they talk about Jed's current beliefs and views on the nephilim, revelation, aliens, UFOs, government conspiracies, church, AA and every thing in-between! be sure to like, subscribe and follow their podcast and show them some love from the congregation! podcast: The Days of Noah music: Acid Rain by Lorn Capital Karma by Manchester Orchestra churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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247 - Coolio Died? 2022: A Year in Review and Chatbot GPT Jan 08, 2023

Greetings, Congregation! And welcome to the new year! To quote Counting Crows- this year will be better than the last. Andrew, Kenon and Jed discuss news and noteworthy events from the year of our Lord, 2022, and talk about what is in store for our future....and it's looking more and more like AI will be in charge. Songs: After Dark by Mr. Kitty Is it Really You? by Loathe & Sleep Token patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com

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246 - Lawyers, Campaigns, Cocaine and Alcohol with John Shirley! Dec 31, 2022

Greetings, Congregation! This week, Jed takes it back to C&OD beginnings with an interview with an amazing dude Jed met in his treatment days. John Shirley is many things-- father, lawyer, and alcoholic! John shares his story and takes us on a ride from running political campaigns to having nightmares about being late for law classes. Enjoy! churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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245 - Katie Flynn and Brand New’s Limousine- a Deep Dive into Deep Songs Dec 14, 2022

Greetings, Congregation! So, fair warning, this episode may feature some subject matter that is difficult to handle for some listeners, so please be advised. This week, Jed, Kenon, Ben and Andrew go on a deep dive into deep songs and their meanings, starting with Brand New's magnum opus "Limousine", the tragic true story of the death of Katie Flynn. They then talk about other meaningful tracks and why music and art have such transcendent powers. I hope you find this episode thought-provoking and challenging; as that is what sets great art apart from the rest! songs used in this episode: Brand New- Limousine Cursive- Rise up! Rise up! Tim Kasher- On My Knees Brand New- Jesus Christ churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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244 - Kinzie Returns! A Church & Other Drugs Retrospective! Plus, Kanye Dec 05, 2022

Greetings, Congregation! Man, turns out its been over a YEAR since Kinzie has been on the show! Let's welcome him back! The boys talk about some of the early Church & Other Drugs episodes and what the podcast has mophed into...how internet friends become real friends, and we finally end the Kanye experiment. patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com

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243 - Would You Go to for your Children? Also, Farts are Funny ft. Kenon and Andrew Nov 21, 2022

Greetings, Congregation! I struggled with the title this week...but I just had to do it. In truth, we talk about quite a few heavy topics-- death, suicide, , heaven, children, and then the most important thing- farts. It's a good, old-fashioned laugh fest, so join the fun and be thankful with us! churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs

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242 - The Afterlife, Atonement, Consciousness and more with Josh Patterson! Nov 07, 2022

Greetings, Congregation! It's another one of my most absolute episodes...a Josh Patterson ( Rethinking Faith ) philosophical free-for-all! The boys start by talking about non-alcoholic beer, then move into the lighter subjects-- why did Jesus have to die? What happens in the afterlife? Are we just vessels that God uses to experience the universe in real-time? We're talking about it! find Rethinking faith wherever you hear your podcasts churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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241 - Ghosts, Greys and Giants with Nate Henry from Blurry Creatures! Oct 24, 2022

Greetings, Congregation! We are continuing spooky season with another episode on the supernatural side of life...this time, its all about ghosts! (and aliens, giants, goblins...you get it) Friend of the pod, Nate Henry, from the wildly successful Blurry Creatures podcast joins us to bring his particular expertise to the episode! Are ghosts real? Who was the Witch of Endor? Whats up with alien greys? All this and more! Find Blurry Creatures wherever you listen to podcasts churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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240 - We’re Back! Do Serial Killers Go to Heaven? ft. Kenon, Andrew and Ben Oct 16, 2022

Greetings, Congregation! Jed is back in action! He promises to reveal more about the hiatus in the coming weeks, but in the meantime, the crew discuss some important topics..mainly, do serial killers go to heaven? There also may or may not be a special appearance from Party Hitler. churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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C&OD GREATEST HITS- What do you do when You’re Resentful at God? ft. Andrew Spier Sep 27, 2022

Greetings, Congregation! Here is another one of my favorite episodes, where John and Jed bring on Andrew Speir to talk about a tricky subject-- what do you do when you are angry at God?

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Church & Other Drugs Greatest Hits-- The Parchman Prison episode with Scott Countryman! Sep 12, 2022

Greetings, Congregation! To keep you guys entertained while I'm on hiatus, I'm going to re-upload some of my favorite episodes! This one was particularly hard-hitting. Scott Countryman talks about the crisis at Parchman Penitentiary in MIssissippi. Parchman was in the news a few years ago, and it seems like nothing has gotten better since then. Enjoy the episode!

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Sometimes You Just Need To Take a Break! Sep 12, 2022

Greetings, Congregation! So, as the title says, sometimes you just need to know when to take a break! I'm going on a quick hiatus to take care of my mental health...gotta practice what I preach! But, fear not! For I shall return bigger, better, and ready to rock! Thank you everyone for the continued support...it means the world to me! churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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238 - Jed Returns from Mexico! Aug 14, 2022

Greetings, Congregation! This week, Jed returns from his trek to Mexico with John and fills Kenon and Andrew in on the wonder and beauty of Central America. Then, the boys get into the usual gamut of topics- stocks, Trump, and pooping your pants from Olestra! churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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237 - Death, Ferrets, Mexico, Weed and Trump without Makeup ft. Kenon and Andrew! Jul 31, 2022

Greetings, Congregation! This week, Jed breaks the news that his second-born ferret, Kylo, has passed away. This leads to a discussion about all things death and the fear thereof. Then, Kenon and Andrew talk about high potency weed, congressmen gaming the stock market, and Jed's taking a trip to Mexico with John for the next 9 days! Be on the lookout for some live from Mexico episodes! storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com

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236 - To God, You are Perfect or, How I learned To Trust Grace w/ Jesse Samson Jul 17, 2022

Greetings, Congregation! We've got another thought-provoking, amazing episode this week with Jesse Samson! Jesse and Jed met the better part of a decade ago through mutual friends and attended the same church. Jesse shares his personal journey to where he is with faith, and questions Jed about some longstanding, poor theology-based thoughts he has about God...and I hope it does the same to you! churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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235 - July 4th, WW2 Croc and Shark attacks, LSD, Unit 731 w/ Kenon and Andrew! Jul 04, 2022

Greetings, Congregation and happy Independence Day you dirty colonists! This week, Jed, Kenon and Andrew talk about whether or not America is the greatest country in the world and then Jed tells the boys about the USS Indianapolis tragedy and the Ramree Island Massacre of World War II! Then they talk about CIA LSD experiments and Unit 731 in this fun-filled, patriotic episode of C&OD! churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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234 - What is your purpose for living? And Jurassic Park was awful. Ft. Kenon Jun 24, 2022

Greetings, Congregation! This week, Jed gives Kenon a good ole' fashioned existential crisis! Turns out there are many different reasons to live and we all need to find our purpose..but what happens if you lose yours? Also, Jed rants for awhile about the garbage heap that is jurassic park. churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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233 - Where did God Go? Resentment, SBC, Inner Fundamentalist and more w/ Josh Patterson! Jun 03, 2022

Greetings, Congregation! This is, bar none, the most enjoyable conversation I've had in awhile, and also the longest. Josh Patterson from (Re)Thinking Faith stops by for, essentially, a narrative existential free-flow thought explosion. We talk about just about everything, and get very personal with our current walks with God. This one is not to be missed, and be sure to check out Josh's podcast when it returns on Aug 3rd! churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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232 - The Universe Was Made For Us with Kenon and Andrew May 23, 2022

Greetings, Congregation! This week, Kenon and Andrew join Jed for a laid-back roundtable where they discuss Jed's definitive TV show rankings, what happens to us when we die, what the universe was created for, and what's going to happen on judgement day. Plus, Kenon gives a precise prediction for when the entire economy is going to collapse. Spoiler alert- it's really soon.

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231 - A Conversation With Jonny Craig May 10, 2022

Greetings, Congregation! This week doesn't need much introduction. After a few years of trying, Jonny Craig comes on the show! Jonny is known for his incredible vocal talent that he lent to bands like Dance Gavin Dance, Emarosa, Slaves, Isles & Glaciers, and an extensive solo career. Jonny is probably equally well-known for his public episodes of addiction. I wanted to hear from the man himself what it was like for him all those years, and how he has gotten to the place he is at today: sober.

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230 - Destroy and Rebuild with Danny O’hearn! May 02, 2022

Greetings, Congregation! This is an episode you don't want to miss. We bring on none other than the little brother of our former co-host and co-founder Jay. Danny ended up following in our footsteps..and going quite harder quite a bit faster than we ever did. Danny experienced consequences from the get-go, and it's a miracle he is alive and sober today. His story is truly remarkable, and I hope it brings hope and healing to anyone out there that thinks they may be too far gone! churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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229 - Jed talks movies with Tylor and Sam on WIXFLIX! Apr 26, 2022

Greetings, congregation! This week, Jed was a guest on episode 2 of Wixflix with Samantha and Tylor Wix! They talk about 3 recent AMAZING films: The Batman, The Northman, and Everything, Everywhere All At Once! This is a brand new podcast, so everyone go show them some love and like, subscribe, and leave a review!

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227 - Moe Solet from Tales from the Riff! Mar 28, 2022

Greetings, Congregation! This week was an amazing conversation. One of Jed's early friends from sobriety, Moe Solet, stops by to tell his story! Moe's story was way crazier and way more involved than I could've imagined- from drinking at age 8, joining the marines, only to get sober and get diagnosed with a life-threatening illness. Amazing. And to top it all off, Moe started a podcast of his own...Tales from the Riff! Moe wants to shine a light on the local metal scene, and he's doing an amazing job, so be sure and like, subscribe and leave a review! churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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225 - Jeen-Yuhs and The Return of Brad! Mar 07, 2022

Greetings, Congregation! This week we finally hear back from our long-lost brethren Brad! Brad has gotten his life together since the last time we heard from him, including getting a whole new set of chompers! And since it's Brad and Jed talking, they of course get on their favorite subject- Ye himself, with a fresh new album and documentary to boot. patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com

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223- Economic Collapse, Billionaires and the Love of Money w/Kenon & Andrew Feb 14, 2022

Greetings, Congregation! I hope this episode finds you well. This week, I thought it would be fun to have two congregants from our Sunday zoom meeting to come on the show- Kenon Koffkey and Andrew Shipman. Kenon is our resident "Doomsayer" who is always talking about the eminent collapse of our economy and uses fancy words like "margin call" and "hedge funds", so I let him loose to tell us how he is interpreting the current financial climate. This leads the boys into a discussion on billionaires as an idea, and the love of money. churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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222 - Dopey Dave stops by to talk about everything! Feb 02, 2022

Greetings, Congregation! Friend of the pod, Dave from Dopey, comes back on the show to have a good old fashioned talk-a-thon! The boys talk about everything from crazy IV cocaine psychosis, imposter syndrome, following your dreams, financial insecurity, and the new fentanyl-based research chemicals out there! (please stay safe everyone!) As usual, I had a blast churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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221 - The Two Lives of Thomas Allen w/Tylor Wix! Jan 21, 2022

Greetings, Congregation! This week, Jed brings back friend of the Pod Tylor Wix! Tylor and Jed begin by talking about all things movies and TV- The biggest hits of the season and the biggest disappointments. Then, Tylor tells Jed about the process of writing a novel, as Tylor has just published his first novella- The Two Lives of Thomas Allen! Tylor explains his process and inspiration behind the book, and gets deeply personal. The first 3 people to email Tylor will receive a FREE copy of the book! Find the book at amazon.com, kindle, and other online book retailers. churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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220 - New Questions about the Old Testament w/ Jace Broadhurst! Jan 07, 2022

Greetings, Congregation and Happy New Year! We're going to kick-off the New Year by going old-school. Josh Patterson (re:thinking faith) introduced Jed to Jace Broadhurst- a pastor, scholar, and all-around knowledgeable badass about all things ancient Hebrew, old testament, and scripture in general. As usual, Jed unloads a barrage of questions that Jace deftly answers. And then the two get pretty personal at the tail end. Send in any questions, responses, or thoughts to this episode so that hopefully we can have a part 2! churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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217 - Catholics, Cocaine & The Marines ft. Craig Laseur Dec 16, 2021

Greetings, Congregation! Jed is nursing a wicked sinus infection, but fear not, the interview brings the fire. Jed's former supervisor and good friend Craig Laseur comes on the show to tell his story. Craig started life out as a good Catholic in Chicago before pursuing the lifestyle that only cocaine can provide, with a break in between to go see what the marines are all about. Craig has an amazing story of recovery, and I was happy to have him tell it. churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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216 - Divorce Dec 05, 2021

Greetings, Congregation! Well, I finally decided to publically try and address what has been going on in my life. It is my desire that this episodes helps anyone going through anything similar, or to comfort those who have been through it before. churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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215 - Speaking With the Dead ft. Natalie Caskey! Nov 27, 2021

Greetings, Congregation! This...is quite the episode. I've had my fair share of amazing stories over the years hosting this podcast, and I must say, this story is truly unique among them all. Natalie Caskey comes on the show to tell Jed all about being a medium. Natalie comes from a long line of spiritualists hailing from Salem, Mass., but recent events have shaken her to the core. Can ghosts help someone solve their murders? How exactly does speaking with the dead work? Do mediums speak with Satan? Jesus? Ghandi? Let's find out together. While I may not share the same belief systems, I was proud to allow Natalie to share her story with the Congregation and myself. churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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213- Tylor, Jed and Heath talk Dune, Travis Scott and Ghosts Nov 12, 2021

Greetings, congregation! This week, Tylor, Heath and Jed catch up on current events and talk about the Travis Scott tragedy, Kyle Rittenhouse, and the 2024 election. Tylor and Jed give some movie recommendations, and we finally talk about Dune. storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com

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212 - Brennen Haga and the Book of Revelation! Nov 01, 2021

Greetings, Congregation! Don't forget to head over to patreon.com and sign up to access the exclusive bonus episodes that have entered a new season: the catsnake crew! This week on the show, Jed brings on Brennen Haga! Brennen reached out to Jed to get the word out on an upcoming podcast-one where Brennen and his Pastor break down the book of Revelation! I, for one, can't wait to hear it and Brennen tells Jed all about his journey in spirituality and what his life looks like today. churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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210 - A Traumatic Event From Two Perspectives with Larry Heard! Oct 17, 2021

Greetings, Congregation! This week, Jed rekindles a decades-long friendship with a man that was there for some of Jed's most traumatic life events, and the one that very nearly cost him his life. Larry explains his perspective of the events, and then He and Jed speak about what changes in faith and belief Larry has undergone, and how he interacts with God today. churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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209 - Live from Furnace Fest & Recap with Kenon, Tyler, Dirty Mike and Tree Oct 08, 2021

Greetings, Congregation! The boys had themselves a little adventure down to Birmingham, Alabama to attend Furnace Fest 2021! This was a trip 21 months in the making as COVID had other plans in mind when the fest was originally scheduled for last year. Kenon Koffkey, Tyler Harper, Dirty Mike and Tree come live from the hotel room after Kenon and Jed do an intro reflecting on the fest now that they've had a few weeks to process the immensity of the awesomeness. Enjoy and we'll see you there next year! churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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208- Shama Mrema (@Shama4realz) talks comedy, youtube, and being a missionary kid! Sep 27, 2021

Greetings, Congregation! We have a very special guest this week! One of Jed's favorite up-and-coming comedy/skit performers Shama Mrema (@shama4realz) is on the show! Shama talks about growing up in a strict fundamentalist missionary family, getting fired from being a youth pastor, and finding his way into youtube and social media stardom! You can find Shama on the interwebs on tiktok, Instagram, facebook and youtube at Shama4realz! churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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207 - I Came Into Sobriety On a Stretcher with Ryan Benson! Sep 11, 2021

Greetings, Congregation! This week we have an amazing episode with new friend of the pod, Ryan Benson! Ryan and Jed met in a facebook group for Furnace Fest...the "Woodstock" for early 2000's metalcore kids! They quickly figured out they were both in recovery, and both worked in the field! Ryan was gracious enough to come tell his story..and it is quite the story. From bath salts to abscesses, drugs and alcohol very nearly took Ryan from this world, but he was able to rise above and now works as a counselor to help other struggling addicts! churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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206 - Dopey Dave and Jed talk about covid, half-measures, and the Sopranos! Aug 31, 2021

Greetings, Congregation! This week, Dopey Dave comes back on the show! Dave just made 6 years in recovery and wants to talk to Jed about the phrase "half-measures availed us nothing", then they compare COVID symptoms, and talk about why the last season of Game of Thrones ended a phenomenon and how it compares to the Sopranos. churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs/product/cashandotherdrugs spotify playlist- Church & Other Drugs

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205 - Jed gets COVID-19 with Scott Countryman! Aug 22, 2021

Greetings, Congregation! Well...the inevitable happened. Jed got COVID 19. As Jed explains in the intro, Scott and Jed had an interview recorded last Monday and Jed was feeling..."off". Turns out, he got the VID! Jed was going to jettison the interview, but thought it would be an interesting listen now that you know he was literally dying during the recording. Send your prayers, intentions, and pigeons for healing! He's not out of the woods just yet. churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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202 - Acting, Alcohol, Cocaine & Boxing with Caitlin Ewald! Jul 14, 2021

Greetings, Congregation! This week we have an amazing guest and new friend of the pod..Caitlin Ewald! Caitlin has quite the story- growing up in a military family, going to school in Russia, landing a role in a feature film, and of course, discovering the wiles of alcohol and cocaine! churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs

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Not the 200th Episode with Dopey Dave! Jun 21, 2021

Greetings, Congregation! This may be technically the 200th episode...but it's not going to be the 200th episode. Instead, enjoy the banter of two, at this point, long-time friends; Jed and Dave from the Dopey Podcast. If you don't know Dave at this point, I don't know what to tell you. Go over to Dopey and listen, and you'll quickly get an idea. They run the gamut again, talking about everything and nothing. Sit back and enjoy the show! churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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199 - Just Another Overdose: How My Dad went from Pastor to Opioid Statistic with Jason Duncan Jun 07, 2021

Greetings, Congregation! This is a very special episode, and I am honored to share this story with you. Jason Duncan, former host of Not Your Pastor's Podcast, has recently lost his father to an opioid overdose. Jason's father was a pastor from the 80s and 90s and struggled with alcoholism, and then found his way to opioids due to migraines. After attempts at sobriety, he was in a car wreck and broke his sternum, placing him in the crosshairs of addiction yet again. At the end of his life, he was taking suboxone and drinking alcohol, and had co-occuring diabetes. This would prove fatal. Jason wants people to remember his father for who he was-- not what his addiction had done to him. I believe this is a powerful message to those healers out there who need healing themselves. Jason wrote an article about this very story, and please take the time to read it. https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fjason-duncan.medium.com%2Fjust-another-overdose-d43c33bf7976%3Ffbclid%3DIwAR3RuNTPk4S4PRhe0v8CU5F7qMIK43VFJSlNVQSB7iu4nUM3J_g3m9YjZTY&h=AT2QOpbEpuGLwuwM_hQxOQ1XaZQJgEqhQBA2sr-uWxtrk9X41eIfIQhGO4SJ1OUM0WFfJmyLH1YG3XKFNb_phL4q8yJwGTVJrHiMnL18JCMsaTOl4r8jl8G91lQGnkVOIuA churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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197 - John and Jed live from Miami! May 18, 2021

Greetings, Congregation! Well, all it took was a cross country flight and vaycay to get our illustrious co-founder, John, back on the show! The boys fall back in stride and tell all about the Miami trip that was very nearly disastrous. Excuse the audio quality as it was recorded on my phone, but revel in the hilarity of 2 30-something white dudes experiencing Miami Beach. Party on. churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs

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The Broad Highway, episode 1 May 02, 2021

Greetings, Congregation! You may remember Jed's friend Ben..you know, the guy that got stabbed? Well he's back with his own podcast! I wanted to show him some love so I decided to air his first episode on my feed. If you like what you hear, go give them a like, subscribe, download and review! churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs

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195 - Mr. Stutts - The Stuttering, Recovering Addict Apr 20, 2021

Greetings, congregation! This week was a fun one. I got introduced to Mr. Stutts, aka Marc Sautter, from our friend recovery mike and knew we were two peas in a pod right off the bat. Mr. Stutts has recently started a podcast, and tells Jed his story of growing up with a stutter, finding drugs and alcohol, how religion and God fit in to it, and how he got in to recovery! Everyone go show him some love and leave a review for his show. churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs

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194 - Tyler Harper from Capra shares his journey from alcoholism to signed musician! Apr 12, 2021

Greetings, Congregation! This week, Jed brings on Tyler Harper from the band Capra to tell his story. Tyler started, like many a troubled musician, to use alcohol and cocaine to escape a lonely existence. After many failed attempts, he was able to get sober and used the pain of his past to found a band, Capra, that was recently signed to Metal Blade records. Their debut LP, In Transmission, is available everywhere April 23rd! churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs Listen to Capra on all streaming platforms and preorder the album

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193 - What makes someone an Alcoholic? With Chris Boss! Apr 06, 2021

Greetings, Congregation! Back with another amazing episode with a new friend of the pod. Joshua Hagquist led to Father Chris, and Father Chris led to Chris Boss! Chris was raised in Southern Baptist tradition, and later found the Orthodoxy. Chris then began a 20 year drinking career, and celebrates 1 year sober next week! Chris shares about his journey and what he has learned along the way. Chris also founded the band Kind Skies. churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs

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192 - TikTok viral star Aaron Goldenberg’s journey to Acceptance Mar 30, 2021

Greetings, congregation! I hope by now all of you have watched Snyder Cut many, many times. Its so good. But i digress...this week, Jed's old buddy Aaron Goldenberg comes back on the show! Aaron has become a TikTok viral sensation and is currently a working actor in Atlanta, GA. His life changed radically 4 years ago when he both began a journey of sobriety and a journey of acceptance. Aaron struggled for years believing he was a " addict" and did not want to believe that he was because of the fear of that he was taught as a child. Aaron is a great soul and it was a pleasure to talk to him! follow him on TikTok and social media @Aarongoldyboy churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs

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191 - From Punk Rocker to Orthodox Priest with Chris Foley from Luxury! Mar 23, 2021

Greetings, Congregation! This week, I had a fantastic conversation with Chris Foley from Luxury! Chris started his faith journey in the evangelical world and quickly found dissatisfaction. Chris was playing in the Tooth & Nail band Luxury when life began to take him into another direction..becoming an Orthodox priest! Chris and his bands' story was recently chronicled in the documentary "Parallel Love", debuting on streaming platforms May 18th. Jed picks Chris's brain about all things christianity, faith, Orthodoxy, and everything in between. You can catch Luxury's newest release, Trophies, on all streaming platforms. churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs

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189 - Banned from Social Media with Dan Smotz from The System Is Down! Mar 01, 2021

Greetings, Congregation! Whelp, let's see if I get banned by proxy for this one. Dan Smotz comes back on the show to talk about his recent purge from social media. Dan awoke one morning to find out that he and his wife's entire facebook presence had been deleted without warning. Dan and Jed talk about the issue of social media influence, free speech, and unfortunately get a little political as well...and of course, a hefty dose of conspiracy thrown in. churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs

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188 - Musings, Rants, Herbology, Theories and Bullsh*t with Nate! Feb 23, 2021

Greetings, Congregation! Listen, here's the deal- we all know what time it is when Nate Henry comes on the show. Jed didn't have a scheduled interview, so Jed and Nate just catch up as old buddies do-- and then predictably go WAY off the rails into every rabbit hole you can imagine. So listen and enjoy, or don't and i'll see you next week! Churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs

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186 - Phil, Jed and Brandon bring the Weird! Jan 17, 2021

Greetings, congregation! This week, Jed brings on old friend and new friend of the pod Phil Avants! Phil has a stellar mustache. Jed, Brandon and Phil set out with one goal in mind: to make Jed feel better! Jed announces that he will be taking a hiatus, but shall return better than ever! churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs

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185 - God, Where are You? Or, Why I left the Worship Team with Andrew Shipman! Jan 05, 2021

Greetings Congregation! Hope everyone is safe and happy. This week, I bring on Andrew Shipman, a patron and Congregation member, to talk about his faith, deconstruction, rebuilding, and leaving his position at church. Jed shares his recent hiatus from being on the worship team, and the two commiserate and share why they each made the decisions to step away, and what has replaced it. They talk about the problem with deconstructing without rebuilding, and get into all sorts of good bunny trails. churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs

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184 - Brandon and Jed talk about the beauty of death and Aleister Crowley Dec 15, 2020

Greetings, Congregation! This week, Brandon Autrey hops back on the show to shoot the breeze with Jed. They talk about the occult origins of JPL, the connection to alien greys, and Brandon shares a heartwarming story about the beauty of death. churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs

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182 - Evan Godbold returns to talk about his new book Thalassman’s Code! Nov 24, 2020

Greetings, Congregation! I hope everyone is keeping safe out there. This week, Jed brings back his old pal Evan Godbold to talk about Evan's new novel, Thalassman's Code! Evan and Jed first talk about Star Wars, because of course we do. Then Evan goes into detail about the process of writing a novel, what it's about, what he wants to say, and more. Go support Evan by grabbing the book off of amazon or at evangodbold.com churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com church-other-drugs.myshopify.com storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs

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181 - Joe Calderon from Lightworker! Nov 10, 2020

Greetings, congregation! Jed brings on new friend of the pod, Joe Calderon from the Solidstate records band Lightworker! Joe tells Jed about growing up as a first-generation american, his early religious leanings, and the questions that galvanized his faith as an adult. Then, Joe gets into the history of his music career and how Lightworker came to be. Be sure to check out Lightworker's new album, Fury By Failure, on all streaming platforms, or grab a vinyl or cd from solidstate.com churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs

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180 - Taylor Martin returns to celebrate a year sober! Oct 25, 2020

Greetings, Congregation! This week, Jed talks again to his ole' pal Taylor Martin! Taylor has had a tough year living in France..but has made it through that year clean and sober! Taylor talks about all of the struggles that made this year particularly difficult, but also that much more rewarding. Then, Jed and Taylor talk about how the rest of the world views COVID and what the USA is going through. Find Taylor at: livingwanderfull.com IG: @livingwanderfull @thebabe churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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179 - Jed, Besh and Rogers Bounce Back! Oct 14, 2020

Greetings, Congregation! It's the return of Rogers "stinky white boy feet" doyle and Besh! Rogers gives us the lowdown on what its like to relapse after 5 years of sobriety, having a baby on the way, and working at a rehab. Its a sobering (ayyyy) reminder of what happens to the best of us. Besh gives us a praise report after his last visit cursing his creator..things are on the up and up for all of us! it's that bounce back.

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178 - Recovery In The Middle Ages with Nat and Mike! Oct 05, 2020

Greetings, Congregation! Today, Jed brings on new friends of the pod Nat and Mike! The duo started the podcast Recovery in the Middle Ages recently and are off to a great start. Jed was hindered by zoom time limits, but they get a chance to tell the story of how they met, the reason behind starting a podcast, and what they were like in the good ole' bad days! https://www.facebook.com/Recoveryinthemiddleages/ churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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Jed’s 6 year story Oct 01, 2020

Jed recently spoke when he picked up his 6 year chip. Enjoy!

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I am one bad day away from dying Sep 27, 2020

I am very tired of death. The disease took another friend, and i have a lot of anger, sadness, rage, sorrow, regret..a whole bunch of. So i just started talking. 803 543 7612 is my phone number. Please use it. No judgement, no nothing. Just want people to live.

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176 - Dopey Dave and Jed talk about being Gurus, Phish, and an exclusive Dopey announcement! Sep 07, 2020

Greetings, Congregation! Hope everyone is well out there. First off, thanks to new Patrons Mike Wenzel and Noah G.! You guys rule. Jed starts the episode by reading a message from Ben Pelfrey and giving Jed's must-watch list. Then, Dopey Dave comes back on the show and gives an exclusive announcement for Dopey! Then, in true Jed and Dave form, the conversation meanders from jewishness and kosher foods to yahoo viruses, the concept of being a Guru, being in the public eye, facing ego problems, and losing mentors. Its a great conversation, as it always is. churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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175 - Being a crackhead can be hilarious with Kara Fernstrom! Aug 24, 2020

Greetings, congregation! This week, Jed is getting pummeled by not one, but TWO hurricanes! Hooray! But the silver lining is he got to talk to new friend Kara Fernstrom! Kara is a Canadian native who reached out to Jed about sharing a crack addiction. Kara tells her story of starting out drinking and finding her way to the devil's cracklin. patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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174 - Nate Henry returns to talk about his new show, Blurry Creatures! Aug 19, 2020

Greetings, congregation! I hope you all are staying safe and masked-up out there. This week, Nate Henry drops back by to talk about his new show- Blurry Creatures! Episode one just dropped, and i put it on my feed as well so you congregants can check it out. Nate and Jed talk about belief systems, cryptids, bigfoot, spirituality, biblical truth, and the struggle to record electric drums. Enjoy! churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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Blurry Creatures ep 1: Bigfoot The Gateway Drug Aug 19, 2020

Nate Henry's new podcast, Blurry Creatures, is out now on all podcast platforms! i wanted to help get his show off the ground, so he let me upload episode 1 onto the C&oD feed. Be sure and go subscribe and leave a review to help him out, it's a great show i think some of you will love. blurrycreatures.com

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173 - Phil Drysdale and The Deconstruction Network! Aug 03, 2020

Greetings, Congregation! This week, Kinzie and Jed spoke with Phil Drysdale, founder of the Deconstruction Network! Phil works full-time researching the phenomenon of Deconstruction..who's doing it, why are they doing it, where are they doing it, and what are the statistics? Phil is a wealth of knowledge and was kind enough to share his time with us, and we hope you enjoy it! phildrysdale.com churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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171 - Jed on the Dopey Podcast Patreon! Jul 21, 2020

Greetings, congregation! So this week, i'll be attending my grandfather Popeye's funeral in south carolina so i didn't have time for an episode. BUT it fills me with joy to release this episode i did for the Dopey Patreon with Dave. We had a really good, hard conversation about mental health in long-term recovery, and then we answer some listener questions. Stay Strong Dopey Nation! churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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170 - Jed gets interviewed by Joey Svendson on Pastor With No Answers! Jul 13, 2020

Greetings Congregation! I hope all is well out there. So, in a perfect coincidence, Joey Svendson finally released an episode i did with him for Pastor With No Answers a few months ago. It was right around the time i got back on medication, and we talk all about mental health. Its interesting that he chose now to release it since i'm going through a mini-crisis of mental health currently. It's a great conversation and i'm glad i can finally share it with you guys. Let me know what you think! churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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168 - Tylor, Sam and Jed talk about what’s happenin’ Jun 22, 2020

Greetings, Congregation! This week, Jed isn't feeling that great, but the show must go on, as they say. So, Tylor and Sam join him to just talk (complain) about everything crazy going on right now. Seriously, it's kind of nuts out there. churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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167 - The POC POV with Tierney and Adrian Jun 08, 2020

Greetings, congregation! This is the companion to last weeks episode, where Kinzie and I discussed privilege from our..well, privileged point of view. This week, Tierney Edwards and Adrian Anderson were gracious enough to come on the show and give the perspective of people of color. They answer questions asked by our facebook group, and help sort through what kind of things are helpful and what things are hurtful. It was a fantastic conversation, and I am very grateful to them for taking the time and energy to have it. churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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166 - Kinzie and Jed discuss Privilege and the Protests Jun 01, 2020

Greetings Congregation! Lots of heavy stuff to talk about this week. My hope is that through honest and raw conversation, we can enact change. I ask that if anything we talk about is discouraging or inflammatory to you, please reach out and let's have a discussion! May God be with us all. churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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165 - Besh stops by for a Quickie May 18, 2020

Greetings, Congregation! Besh stops by for a quckie before a meditation meeting. The two discuss some deep-state conspiracy bull like Adrenochrome, spirit cooking, satanism, shady bills being passed, and of course COVID19. Enjoy the foolishness! churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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164 - Dr. Mike Heiser returns to talk about Demons! May 11, 2020

Greetings, Congregation! Hope you're listening to this 6 ft apart. First, I surprise my mom for mother's day by ambushing her with a bunch of questions about demons! Then, I bring Dr. Michael Heiser back on the show to talk about his new book, Demons! Mike and Jed go into some pretty theologically dense territory, and may not get to all of Jed's questions, but a great time was had by all. I DEFINITELY encourage all of you to check out Mike's work! You can find his new book or any of his old books on amazon, or drmsh.com churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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163 - A Pastor gets Fired with Kinzie Oas! Apr 29, 2020

Greetings, Congregation! Or should i say....Covidnation? Too soon? Well, here's a special mid-week episode for your quarantine enjoyment! Old friend of the pod Kinzie Oas comes back on the show to finally talk in detail about his life-shattering moment of being fired from his pastor gig because of a mental health diagnosis. How did he get past it? What's he up to now? What do you do when you lose your career? churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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161 - Brad and Jed discuss life after the Apocalypse Apr 13, 2020

Greetings, Congregation! I hope ya'll are all six feet away from each other. How's everyone faring in these most stressful of times? We are doing our best over here to keep bringing you content to keep your mind off of the horrid realities we find ourselves in. Joining us today is old friend Brad, and he and Jed talk some foolishness and wisdom about what life may be like when this is all said and done. Also, Brad is "for" arson. churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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160 - Dan Smotz from The System is Down talks Covid Conspiracies Apr 06, 2020

Greetings, Congregation! I hope everyone is safe, at home, and alive and well! This week just brings on old friend Dan Smotz to talk about his favorite subject...liberalism and conspiracies! Jed and Dan take a lighthearted look at some of the crazier ideas out there surrounding the coronavirus and our current state of affairs. What are THEY hiding?? churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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159 - John and Jed entertain you during quarantine Mar 30, 2020

Greetings, Congregation! John comes back on the show he helped start to shoot the breeze with Jed as they try to bring some levity and humor to this dark time we find ourselves in. So just sit back, listen, laugh and try not to think about the world ending. churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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155 - Nate Henry already changed his mind! Feb 17, 2020

Greetings, congregation! To start things off, Tylor, Samantha and Jed talk about anime, movies, and what have you, and then Jed already brings back Nate Henry! Since the previous episode, Nate did some reading into Michael Heiser, and boy did he do a number on him! I thought it'd be cool to bring Nate back to talk about his newer beliefs, the subject of supernatural events in the bible, and why people believe the things they do. patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs find Church & Other Drugs playlist on Spotify!

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153 - Shame: an Unconventional Memoir with Josh Roggie! Jan 27, 2020

Greetings, Congregation! Who's ready to get their shame on?? Brad and Jed lead off the episode with some oscar talk and who they believe are the only Auteurs left in hollywood. Then, Jed brings on Josh Roggie, who has a memoir coming out entitled Shame: an Unconventional Memoir. Josh and Jed do a deep dive on shame, religion, spirituality, and everything in between. Be sure and preorder Josh's book on amazon or wherever you find you books! https://www.amazon.com/Shame-Unconventional-Memoir-Josh-Roggie-ebook/dp/B0842BG1NC/ref=sr_1_7?qid=1580162542&refinements=p_n_date%3A1249102011&s=digital-text&sr=1-7 churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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152 - Bigfoot, Lyme Disease, and the Un-explainable with Nate Henry! Jan 20, 2020

Greetings, Congregation! How is everyone? Tackling this new year by the horns, i hope. I won't waste too much time with pleasantries because this week we have an awesome episode with Nate Henry! Nate is in the band Sherwood, a co-host of Don't Feed the Trolls and soon-to-be host of a brand new podcast! Nate has had a heck of a few years after finding out he contracted lyme disease, and then uncovering what he believes is a true-reading of scripture..i'm talkin' bout them NEPHILIM! Jed and Nate have a fun convo, so sit back, take the pill, and get woken up from the matrix! churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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148 - Jezebel: Harlot Queen of Israel with Brian Godawa! Dec 16, 2019

Greetings, Congregation! Happy Star Wars week everyone! I hope you're caught up on the mandalorian and you've all got your tickets for the rise of skywalker...but i digress. This week, friend of the pod Brian Godawa comes back on the show to talk about his new book, Jezebel: Harlot Queen of Israel! Brian and Jed cover all manner of Jewish occult themes; watchers, nephilim, child sacrifice, pagan god worship, Ba'al, Ashera, and much more! Enjoy the show and be sure to order Brian's book! Godawa.com Books can be purchased at Amazon.com churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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147 - Seth Showalter from Fade to Gray tells his story and gives Jed some therapy! Dec 11, 2019

Greetings, congregation! This week, friend of the pod Seth Showalter from the Fade to Gray podcast comes on the show to tell his story! Seth struggled with being a man early on which led to a battle with alcohol, a stint in rehab, and then rebuilt his life into becoming a social worker. Seth also deals with his own mental health, and gives Jed a free diagnosis session. Be sure and give the guys at FTG a listen! patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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145 - Jed and Besh give you free therapy! Nov 18, 2019

Greetings, congregation! Jed and Besh have a great episode for you. Jed recently went back to therapy and has some words about it. They both saw Joe Rogan recently and have some words about it. And Jed may have almost gotten trafficked in Houston, Tx. And he has some words about it. Enjoy the free therapy, the bills in the mail! churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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143 - Theology Doesn’t Suck! with Josh Patterson! Oct 21, 2019

Greetings, congregation! Jed's fighting a mean stomach bug this week..but fear not, life goes on. New friend of the Pod Josh Patterson has a show called 'theology doesn't suck' and after the interview, i'm inclined to agree with him! Jed gets a chance to ask all manner of questions, like why christianity? what about other religions? whats atonement theory? why did Jesus die? how do you experience God? and much, much more. It was a fantastic conversation, and i hope you enjoy! patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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141 - Jed celebrates 5 years sober with John and Brad! Sep 23, 2019

Greetings congregation, i made it! 5 long years, and life is much, much better on the other side. Thanks for being a huge part of that journey! Today Jed and John talk about what 5 years ago looked like, and then Jed has Brad back on to give ya'll an update on his sobriety. Life is good! patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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140 - Taylor Martin follows a feather to France! Sep 16, 2019

Greetings, congregation! This week, Jed is joined by one of his oldest and dearest friends...Taylor Martin! Taylor has been there for most of Jed's early failures, including the coma in Baton Rouge, and has an interesting perspective on the whole debacle. At the same time, Taylor has gone through a ton of trials and successes of her own, most recently following her intuitions and higher power to France! Taylor has some amazing insights and stories to tell, and continues to inspire. patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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138 - Jed talks DMT and Psychedelics with Josh and Jeff from The Harbor podcast Sep 02, 2019

Greetings congregation! As you can hear in his voice, Jed is still wrestling a cold, so he keeps the intro brief. But in this special memorial day episode, Jed was recently on The Harbor podcast to talk about DMT and psychedelic drugs! The hosts of The Harbor, Jeff and Josh, are awesome dudes with a curiosity towards psychedelics, and Jed lays on his personal experience and random pharmacological knowledge. Good times are had by all! churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs be sure and like, subscribe and listen to The Harbor wherever you find your podcasts! https://jkm601.podbean.com/

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137 - Live from TyDillCon3.0! Ft. Kasey, Samantha, Heath, Jed and Tylor Aug 21, 2019

Greetings congregation! This exciting episode was recorded LIVE from TyDillCon3.0 in Lafayette, TN. Jed came to visit (in real life) heath and tylor, and samantha davis and kasey brown joined the fun! We just hang out in this episode and talk about ....SATANISM

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135 - What do Horror movies teach us about life? ft. Nichole Hamilton from Chiaroscuro Podcast Jul 30, 2019

Greetings, congregation! Jed returns from a weekend vaycay and has a short but necessary TIL about the "waffle house index". Then, Jed brings on old friend Nichole Hamilton from the Chiaroscuro Podcast to talk about Nichole's favorite thing...Horror! Nichole was raised in a fairly strict christian home, but developed an early love for horror movies thanks to her mother. Over the years she began to appreciate horror films as an art form more and more and believes they have a lot to say about life, death , God and faith. Enjoy the episode and give Chiaroscuro Podcast a subscribe! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinister-summer/id1438583881?i=1000441107972 storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com

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134 - What do you do when you’re angry at God? ft. Andrew the alcoholic calvinist Jul 22, 2019

Greetings, Congregation! This week, John and Jed check in with each other and address angry, roided-out gym rats, and why jed's wife doesn't tolerate flash-photography during movies. Then, Jed brings back Andrew the alcoholic calvinist to talk about an issue andrew has being going through...just what the do you do when you are resentful at God? Is there a complaint department? do you just suck it up and accept the fate of the world? It turned into a fantastic discussion that i hope you guys enjoy. storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com

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131 - John joins us from Mexico! Jul 01, 2019

Greetings, congregation! John takes a break from his awful, tough, unforgiving vacation in the gawt-dang most beautiful place in the world to give us an update on his life. Feel free to barrage him with messages of jealousy and hate. Just kidding, we love him. ....most of the time. patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com

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130 - The Return of Brad!! Jun 24, 2019

Greetings congregation! Once again, i want to start out by saying THANK YOU to Shane, Dan, Rich and Mandy for reaching out to me after last weeks episode...you guys are amazing, truly. So today, we are blessed by the return of both John and Brad. John is truly an , and spending his summer in Puerto Vallarta, Mexico..a fancy, ridiculous tourist town, and i think we can all agree, we hate him for it. HATE HATE HATE HATE. Now that we got that out of the way, Brad returns! Brad fills us in on what he's been going through, and how we can help him out. (Hint..find him on fb..Bradford A Collins) Seriously though, let's show brad some love and support him on his journey. storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs

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129 - Ryan Davis tells his story! Jun 20, 2019

Greetings, congregation! Contrary to popular belief, i'm not dead! I've been taking a social media fast, so sorry if my presence has been missed or if i've missed any messages, i'll be back before you know it! We have a very special interview today, Ryan Davis! Ryan began listen to C&OD when he was still drinking, and ended up getting sponsored by Besh for awhile, before going to rehab and eventually getting sober. It's been awesome watching Ryan transform his life, and i think you will really enjoy it. storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs

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127 - Jed Goes Off His Meds...Again. Jun 03, 2019

Greetings, Congregation! it's been a rough week, and for starters, i'd like to dedicate this episode to Crystal Jones who went to be with our Lord this week. Death always makes us think, and sometimes those thoughts are full of aggravation, despair, and unknowing. Tylor helps Jed navigate through some of those thought patterns, and they take the discussion from life on earth, to what heaven may be like, to whether or not Hitler is going to be there. You never know when your time is going to come, so fill each day you have with life, love, laughter and peace. patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com

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126 - Christian Cannabis with Craig Gross May 27, 2019

Greetings Congregation, and happy Memorial Day! This week Jed flies solo, and is joined by Craig Gross, of XXXChurch fame and more recently, Christian Cannabis. Craig had a life-changing experience with Cannabis(the devil's lettuce) in 2013, and came out recently by way of blog post and website about his personal experiences and what he hopes to be "a place to start the discussion on the church". I had heard Craig speak on a few other podcasts, and i wanted to give him the perspective of an addict in recovery. It's a great conversation, and i had a lot of fun. Let us know what you think! christiancannabis.com churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs

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124 - Jeremy Schaeffer from Earth Groans! May 14, 2019

Greetings, congregation! we start the episode out by getting an exclusive sneak peek into the kind of man John is...by dissecting his taco bell order. Then he and Jed run through what it's like to sponsor someone. (they'll explain). Then, Jed brings on new friend of the pod Jeremy Schaeffer of the solid state band Earth Groans! Jeremy is a super down to earth guy who tells us this story of growing up in south dakota, his faith, early marriage, and how he sees the band as ministry. Check them out at a tour date near you! earthgroans.com spotify.com/earthgroans churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs.

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123 - Leatherbound Terrorism with Chris Kratzer! May 06, 2019

Greetings congregation! Look at me, getting an episode out on monday! hoooraayy! Dan from TSID pod joins me for a brief intro before we recorded some bonus patreon material, and talk about our new venture, "mental erection". You'll just have to listen. Jed also debuts the new merch store, storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs! Then, in an absolutely amazing interview, Jed speaks with former evangelical pastor and author Chris Kratzer about his newest book, "Leatherbound Terrorism". Chris really did a number on me, and i left this interview really feeling like the gospel was, well, GOOD news! This was like a drink of water in a desert, and i hope it has the same effect on you guys! storefrontier.com/churchandotherdrugs christkratzer.com find "leatherbound terrorism" wherever books are sold! churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs

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122 - Asking ’What if?’ with Jon Ladd from 7-10 Split and Courage, Dear Heart! May 01, 2019

Greetings, congregation! WELL. What a weekend we've had. Endgame. Game of Thrones. And now...another episode of C&OD. This week turned out to be a DOOZY. Jon Ladd, formerly of the band 7-10 split, recounts the bands early days as well as his youthful beliefs about God and Christianity. After an experience with psychedelic drugs, Jon began to have different ideas. Ever a proponent of "curiosity", Jon asks "What if?" to some of life's biggest questions. Things get mind-blowing. check out 'Courage, Dear Heart' on spotify! churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs

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118 - Jed’s interview with JOE ROGAN!!!!! Apr 01, 2019

Greetings, congregation! You don't know how hard it was to keep this secret. A few weeks ago, I got the chance to go on the JOE ROGAN EXPERIENCE! Known as the "Oprah for Men", Joe has been a staple of podcasting and DMT smoking since the mid 00's. He taught Jed how to look things up on google and was actually John's best man at his wedding. Joe needed a ratings boost, so naturally he turned to his old pals at C&OD! enjoy!

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117 - Dave from Dopey returns! Mar 25, 2019

Greetings, congregation! This episode doesn't need much explanation...Dave from Dopey returns! Jed and Dave just shoot the breeze, and Dave calls Jed "sober Oprah" because he always seems to get Dave vulnerable. If you haven't checked it out yet, find Dave on the Dopey podcast on itunes and podbean. churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs

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115 - Heroin is the Answer ft. Russell Holbrook of Joe Christmas Mar 11, 2019

Greetings, congregation! This week, John and Jed discuss the finer points in life, namely doing a super-deep dive on Breaking Bad stemming from John's recent re-viewing. Is it the greatest show ever? Probably. Then in a very special interview, Jed talks to Russell Holbrook- formerly of mid-90s Tooth & Nail band Joe Christmas, about his most recent book/memoir- "Heroin is the Answer: A Memoir of What I Can Remember". Russell takes us through the early days in the band, the dissolution, and what that did to his life. Russell began a years-long journey through heroin addiction and alcoholism, and came out clean on the other side. churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/44232045-heroin-is-the-answer

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111 - Satanism and the God debate ft. Stephen Long from Sacred Tension! Feb 13, 2019

Greetings Congregation! Sorry for the late arrival..but I had to wait for this weeks guest-- Stephen Long! Stephen joins Jed for a riveting Today I Learned about exploding Hippos, they discuss some recent justice and more. Then, Jed and Stephen do a deep dive into Satanism and the most human debate of all time...Does God exist, or is there nothing? Jed and Stephen go toe to toe..mono e mono...person to dude...superman to shazam. Only one Deity is left standing. Well, not really but it was a VERY fun conversation. sacredtension.podbean.com churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs

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109 - The Demon Debate with Nick Lucky! Jan 28, 2019

Greetings, congregation! This weeks starts off with Besh and Jed recounting some stories from Jed's recent trip to Colorado, so thoughts on Psychedelic drugs, a story from Jed's meth days, and Besh saw a ghost. Then, in an interview borne from a facebook argument, Jed brings on Nick Lucky to discuss the reality or nonreality of demons and demonic attack. Nick was raised in a very fundamentalist fashion, and was formerly very interested in demonology. He has since changed his views, so Jed gets to the bottom of it. churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs

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108 - The Church of Safe Injection and Harm Reduction with Jesse Harvey and Dan Smotz Jan 22, 2019

Greetings, congregation! Thanks for joining us on another week, and excuse my absence from last week! I had to recharge. This week, Dan Smotz from The System Is Down podcast joins Jed for a little back-and-forth, where they discuss recent news and "the Great Molasses Flood"...it's some much needed history. Then, Jed gets a chance to talk to Jesse Harvey, the founder of The Church Of Safe Injection. Jesse's organization seeks to end stigmas against addicts and provide safe, evidence based treatment and support to those currently addicted. Jesse believes "no one deserves to die because they use drugs", and I wholeheartedly agree. Jesse started operating a needle exchange from his vehicle, and the organization has grown to 22 chapters around the country. I thank Jesse for what he is doing, and hope you may consider helping his cause! facebook.com/safeinjection jesseharvey.org churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs

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107 - Booka Nile from Make Them Suffer talks mental health and the music world! Jan 07, 2019

Welcome to 2019 Congregation! Thanks for sticking with us all this time. On today's episode, Besh and Jed hash out the finer points of life-- namely Oregon considering legalization of mushrooms and whether or not that means we can now take them (hint: no). We also talk about the resurgence of the R. Kelly controversy and how Besh hated "Bandersnatch" but loved "Bird Box". Ugh. Then on a VERY special interview, Jed talks to Booka Nile- keyboardist/vocalist from the metal band Make Them Suffer. Booka began her career working in the field of mental health; she started with people with disabilities and brain trauma, and moved on to manage a mental health hostel. Booka talks about how she practices self-care, burnout, and how her life changed when she joined a world-famous touring metal band. Mum wasn't thrilled at first. Booka has recently started a mental health vlog, and we highly recommend it. You can also catch her on tour feb/mar with Born of Osiris and Chelsea Grin! IG:lebooke FB: Booka Nile Make Them Suffer can be found on all music platforms churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs

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105 - Dr. Michael Heiser returns to talk about Angels in a very special Christmas episode! Dec 24, 2018

Merry Christmas Congregation! I hope everyone is having a fabulous holiday season. Heath and Jed start out the show by talking about a very terrible movie going experience involving a white-noise machine, a poor begging tactic, and more. Then , I am SUPER thrilled to present the return of Michael Heiser! Dr. Mike has just written a new book called "Angels: What The Bible Really Says About God's Heavenly Host"..and it is a doozy. Mike breaks down common misconceptions of Angels, different types, job titles, and what it all means in today's modern world. Once again, Jed feels woefully outmatched..so sit back and enjoy the education! Please remember folks, there is no excuse for drunk driving anymore! Take an uber, lyft, call a friend...anything! be safe out there, congregation! drmsh.com find "Angels" wherever books are sold churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com Patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs

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104 - Dirty Mike pt. V - The Ouija Board Dec 17, 2018

Greetings, Congregation! This week is truly a momentous occasion..we bring back crowd favorite, internet legend and all-around badass Dirty Mike for pt. V - The Ouija board. Dirty talks about multiple near death experiences, smoking pine needles, and then how he got addicted to Ouija boards. Yup, you heard that right. Join us as we figure out if it was Jesus..or Satan. Dirty swears upon all that is holy that the following is true..so buckle up and prepare yourself for Dirty Mike part VI. Coming...sometime. Happy Birthday Dirty! churchandotherdrugs.com churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com Patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs

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103 - Life and Death with Kinzie and Tylor Dec 10, 2018

Greetings, congregation! How was everyone's week? Good? Great? Grand? Alrighty then. This week the boys talk all over the place, and Jed kicks off the discussion by playing devil's advocate to the question: if there was no God, what would you do? If you found out there absolutely were no afterlife, would you still be a Christian? Kinzie talks about near-death experiences, and the boys dissect what their ideas of heaven are. Jed also GREATLY misrepresents the atheist point of view..so enjoy that one. churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs

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102 - Maddie Jackson, The Creative Luminary Dec 03, 2018

Greetings congregation! This week Besh and Jed start things off by talking about the morals and ethics of darknet drug dealers, why 13 Reasons Why is actually making kids kill themselves, and we have a new Patron! (Looking at you, Rich Maggio!) Then in a very special interview, we bring on Maddie Jackson! Aside from being Besh's fiance, Maddie is one of Jed's old friends in sobriety. Maddie tells her story of growing up the child of alcoholics, how she dealt with adulting at an early age, passing finals in blackouts, moving to amphetamines and opiates, and finally getting sober through a spiritual experience involving a priest, a grill, and a psych ward. Then she talks about her new business, The Creative Luminary, where she helps people by creating and facilitating unique 'Spiritual Treatment Plans' tailored to different needs. She's an amazing woman and we believe she's going to do great things! churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs website- http://www.thecreativeluminary.com instagram- thecreativeluminary facebook- The Creative Luminary email- info@thecreativeluminary.com phone number- (302) 803-3200 The Creative Luminary was established as a resource to help individuals become more in tune with their spiritual nature and increase authenticity and wholehearted living in the modern world, through spiritual coaching and Reiki practice. Madeline hopes to create the space for individuals to explore what spirituality means to them and provide resources to help them expand upon these experiences. She emphasizes authenticity and the importance of making conscious decisions that bring individuals in closer companionship to themselves, others, and the Universe. "We are living in an era, where people are waking up to the understanding that life seems to be missing something. People are internally struggling and this is manifesting outwardly in all types of unwanted or harmful behaviors. We are desperate to become more connected to the creativity and Divine within. If we are not learning how to do this, as humans, we will continue to suffer. I am dedicated to helping others find this connection. There is wisdom in truly understanding the battle is within us, not outside us. The spirit is longing to be expressed and when given the opportunity, truly wonderful and meaningful experiences transpire,which bring us in closer companionship with one another.” Madeline Jackson

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101 - Brad returns to talk about his relapse Nov 26, 2018

Greetings, congregation! This is why I love the community we've built. Everyone's favorite co-host has been AWOL of late, and a lot of you guys have been asking about him, how he's been doing, etc. So, I finally got him back on the show to talk about what has been happening. Brad relapsed after dental surgery, and moved quickly from pain pills back to meth. Brad talks very candidly about what was going on in his mind that led him to this point, and what he plans on doing going forward. He and I appreciate your continued prayers and well-wishes for him as he goes through this difficult time. We are all in this thing together. churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs

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98 - How do you treat addiction? w/ John Clint Mabry Oct 29, 2018

Happy Halloween, congregation! Ready for something really scary? We're gonna convict you on your addiction! yayyyy! Just kidding. But seriously. Quit it. John and Jed shoot the breeze about a new opioid medication coming out, the origin of halloween, a TIL about the FBI and more. Then, Jed talks to John Clint Mabry, who you may remember from a past episode. Since he came on the show, John relapsed into a very serious addiction and just got out of treatment for it 42 days ago, and is currently living in sober living. We let him tell his story, but it's a great conversation we feel like is very important. churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs addictioncampuses.com 24 hour helpline- 888-614-2251 find John on IG, FB, and twitter @JohnClintMabry

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97 - We get sober and go back to prison with Scott Countryman Oct 23, 2018

Greetings, congregation! John is back in the house for some good conversation with Jed. The boys (well, Jed) whine about the psychiatric industry and shocker..Jed's depressed. They also talk about Canada's recent deep dive into the world of Stonerville, population everyone. Then , Jed gets to catch up with friend of the congregation Scott Countryman. They talk about how Scott's time in prison still influences his behaviors today, sketchy sightings of fentanyl patches, and how to love addicts who aren't yet sober. Great friends, great conversation. patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com

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96 - Besh and Jed swap war stories and get political...Kanye-style! Oct 14, 2018

Greetings, congregation! It's a nice, relaxing sunday and Besh and Jed just shoot the breeze-- covering everything from antifa, kanye's white house visit, what happens when you take too many somas, sober living house horror stories, fantasy football and Besh's recent prison counseling. Great times! churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs

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95 - Going through the death of a Brother with Tylor Wix Oct 09, 2018

Greetings, congregation! This week we have the trinity, Jed, Heath and Tylor. The southern gentlemen begin the show by finding out the best rap names for each other (the winner is Jed's 'Post Malaise')and then try to get Heath to stop taking internet surveys. Then , Tylor tells us about how his younger brother was taken from him a little over one year ago from complications related to drugs, and how it has changed his spirituality and thoughts on God. We also get into drugs and spirituality, tweakers, meth, and so much more. Check out Tylor's great music on spotify, and hear a song at the end of the episode. Tylor Wix- 'amelia' taken from the loneliest numbers-vol 1. churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patereon.com/churchandotherdrugs

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94 - Why do we Relapse? and what does prayer have to do with it? ft. Andrew Oct 01, 2018

Greetings, congregation! Well, it seems Andrew the alcoholic calvinist had such a good time on the show, he wanted to come back on. Andrew talks about an email dialogue he's been having with another listener and the fruits thereof. Then, the boys discuss recent relapses in each others' lives and try to figure out what causes them? Jed talks about what it finally took for him to get sober this time, and Andrew sheds some light on his journey as well. It gets pretty deep, pretty philosophical and a decent helping of God is thrown in there. Sit back and enjoy the show! churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs

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92 - Zack Eswine, author of ”Spurgeon’s Sorrows” talks about Depression and those who Suffer Sep 17, 2018

Greetings, congregation! John survived hurricane florence, thank heavens. Jed talks about 2 recent work incidents, and how those zombies on The Walking Dead have really let themselves go. They also talk about the passing of Mac Miller, overdoses, and what we can do about it. Then, Jed gets to talk to Zack Eswine, a pastor and author of "Spurgeon's Sorrows: Realistic hope for those who suffer from depression", and it was AMAZING. They get into depression, suicide, Charles Spurgeon's history, medication, causes, symptoms, and what the bible has to say about it. A must-listen to anyone affected by depression or anxiety. It's also suicide prevention week, so PLEASE reach out if you or anyone you know needs help. We are in this together. 1-800-273-8255 is the national hotline number churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs

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91 - Ben Pierce from Provoke & Inspire talks about his upcoming book, Jesus in the Secular World! Sep 11, 2018

Greetings, congregation! Sorry for the delay, we're dealing with sickness and hurricanes over here, people. Brad steps in for John who is dealing with a mandatory evacuation and regales us with his most recent escapade- getting a german roach infestation in his car. That he delivers pizza in. Then, Jed gets Ben Pierce on the line to talk about his upcoming book-- Jesus in the Secular World. Ben is involved in the Steiger ministry, his band No Longer Music, and is a host of the Provoke and Inspire podcast! They discuss everything from prayer, social media, postmodernism and everything in between. comeandlive.com steiger.org churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs

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(untitled movie podcast) episode #1 - BlacKkKlansman! Sep 02, 2018

Hello there! I'm excited to bring you a sneak peek into Jed and Joe's new podcast-- the as-yet-titled movie podcast, episode 1- BlacKkKlansman! Jed and Joe will be diving into movies new and old, giving reviews, behind the scenes info, hottakes, personal opinions and philosophy. We will also be raising awareness for Joe's ministry, Unity 4 Orphans, so check it out and let us know what you think! unity4orphans.com

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89 - Brandon A.’s story, from Homeschool to Meth and Heroin! ft. Besh Aug 27, 2018

Greetings, congregation! Besh and Jed bring you the latest, from a tragic, senseless shooting to a loss in the family, Jed turns 31, and they try and get to the root of Jed being a germaphobe. Then, new friend to the congregation Brandon A. comes on the show to tell us his story. Brandon started off homeschooled in a conservative christian home and took a journey of self-discovery that led to k2 and spice, then meth, heroin, rehab, an exorcism of sorts, and trying to meet Michelle Obama at Olive Garden. Brandon has an incredible story and we're glad to have him, and we think you will enjoy it as well. churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs

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88 - Andrew the Alcoholic Calvinist! Aug 20, 2018

Greetings Congregation! We've got an episode that has been preordained since the formation of the universe..Andrew, John's good buddy stops by to tell us his story of recovery and how he came to land on Calvinism. He schools Jed on methods of meditation, prayer life, what that means in AA, and more! Plus, Brad and Jed talk the finer points of pizza delivery, tricking children into tipping you, and meth head encounters of the week! churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs

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87 - Gary D. Wilkinson author of ”The Nephilimancer”! Aug 13, 2018

Greetings, congregation! John and Jed start the episode with a timeless 'Today I Learned' that is sure to blow some minds, then get on the subject of how the popular media has been treating drug addicts lately-- from Demi Lovato to Goldberg from The Mighty Ducks. We briefly touch on the Willow Creek scandal, and talk about meth addicts obsession with flash lights. Then , Jed speaks with Gary D. Wilkinson, an author and self proclaimed jack-of-all trades who is primed to release his new book, "The Nephilimancer". If any of you are interested in fantasy thrillers, check it out! Here's the author's synopsis: 'For hundreds of years, the exclusive Burough Seminary has been keeping a secret locked up in their hallowed halls. Managed by the wrong hands, it can breed an evil force that can wreck the human race. Only those with deep passion and a love for their family and the unfiltered truth can stop this tragedy from happening. John Michaels is willing to sacrifice everything to rescue his son and save the world from the Burough’s supernatural secret.' follow Gary's author page on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pg/AuthorGaryDWilkinson/photos/?ref=page_internal churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs

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85 - Dave and Jed Mourn the Loss of Chris from Dopey. Jul 30, 2018

Greetings, Congregation. It's with a heavy heart that we bring you this episode. The world recently lost Chris; our brother in life, recovery, and podcasting. Dave comes on the show to help make some sense of this tragedy, and Scott, Debesh and member of the Dopey Nation call in to share what they loved most about Chris and Dopey. If you or anyone you know is struggling with addiction, please don't wait to get them help. We love you, Chris, and we will see you on the other side.

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83 - From growing weed and selling heroin to raising a son and selling comic books with Shawn D.! Jul 16, 2018

Greetings, congregation! This is an episode that is very near and dear to my heart. For whatever reason, God has seen to it that I would share my recovery journey with the very people I used to do drugs with, and it's an incredible experience. I bring on my old pal Shawn who tells his story of growing weed, going to prison, selling heroin, going to rehab, and literally anything and everything in between. Shawn has since turned his hustle into a new (legal) business , Get Ya Issue! comics. Shawn continues to be an inspiration, so sit back and buckle up. It's a ride. find Get Ya Issue! on facebook and the upcoming Lafayette Comic Con in Lafayette, LA churchandotherdrugs@gmail,com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs

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82 - Everywhere I go, There I am; Brent B’s Story Jul 09, 2018

Greetings, congregants! This week, Brad and Jed talk about blue light bathrooms, shooting up and overdosing in fast food restaurants, and other tomfoolery. Then, one of the gang's old friends, Brent B, tells his story of growing up in a trailer, getting into punk rock, following a darker path, getting arrested , meeting Jed and trying the geographical cure to get sober. Brent has 18 days clean this time and we couldn't be prouder! churchandotherdrugs.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com

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Patreon bonus sneak peak #2- Cue and the 8Ball Jul 04, 2018

We bring you yet another great patreon bonus content..this one is where Brad and Jed flesh out their greatest character creations...Cue and the 8Ball.

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81 - Patreon bonus episode sneak peek, with Besh, John and Jed Jul 01, 2018

Greetings, congregation! This week I'm going to be releasing a few Patreon-exclusive episodes to give you, the normal, lowly listener, a chance to see behind the curtain what we are up to on our bonus episodes. Lots of low-brow humor, mainly. Enjoy! patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com

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80 - Brian Godawa returns to talk about his newest book, Resistant: Revolt of the Jews! Jun 25, 2018

Greetings, congregants! John and Jed start the episode out by going down memory lane to fondly remember running from the police, pay homage to our recent departed, and talk about how John sucks when he's on his keto diet. Then, our good friend Brian Godawa returns to tell us about his newest book, Resistant: Revolt of the Jews! Jed gets him to spill the beans on Josephus, the Beast & The Harlot, mystery Babylon, how exactly Daniel fits in with revelation, and exactly what DOES the bible have to say about the end of days? Godawa.com Resistant: Revolt of the Jews and all books available exclusively at amazon.com churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com churchandotherdrugs.com

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79 - The 3 Amigos because John couldn’t make it, ft. Besh, Jed and Brad Jun 18, 2018

I had high hopes to name this episode 'the 4 horsemen', BUT john couldn't make it, so I present for your listening pleasure..The 3 Amigos. Jed , Besh and Brad talk everything from Brad's unemployed depression to keeping the faith in a godless land (i.e. Portland). We also get into some old school drug stories from Jed and Brad's high school days.

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78 - Gangs, tattoos, hollywood , prison and sobriety with Freddy Negrete Jun 10, 2018

Greetings congregation! John graces us with his presence as he and Jed discuss Kanye West taking 2c-b, we pay our respects to a C&OD guest who recently passed away as a result of the disease of alcoholism, talk Anthony Bordain's suicide and more. Then, we are blessed to have world-renown tattoo artist/author Freddy Negrete come on the show to tell his story of growing up in foster care, getting locked up , learning tattooing in prison and pioneering the 'black & grey' realism style of tattooing. Freddy has been a guest judge on Spike's 'Ink Master', and designed the tattoos for the blade trilogy and from dusk till dawn films, to name a few. Freddy has an amazing story, and I hope you all enjoy it. Freddy recently wrote a book 'Smile now, Cry later' that can be found anywhere books are sold. churchandotherdrugs.com churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com freddynegrete.com

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77 - Besh and Jed crack the Kanye Code, plus drug stories Jun 03, 2018

...It's exactly what it sounds like. Welcome back Besh , the best disposable host a man could ask for, as he and Jed discuss whatever the is going on with kanye west, catch up on the world of drug counseling, then reminisce with some old-school drug stories. This turned out to be one of my favorite episodes, so just turn off your brain, relax, and enjoy the show. churchandotherdrugs.com churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs

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76 - Adam S. spills the beans on Synthetic Weed May 28, 2018

Greetings, congregation! John is back for an interview, and Brad and Jed handle the intros. I expect everyone of you to email John about his laziness. Go ahead..I'll wait. Ok, great. So , we bring on an old buddy and the person responsible for Jed's sobriety in Lafayette, Adam S.! He shares his story of making and selling synthetic weed back in the 00's, and how he once got so high he couldn't figure out how to get out of his truck. We're expecting a nobel prize from this one. churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs

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75 - Iraq, jail, microdosing, sobriety and everything in between with Toby M.! May 21, 2018

Greetings congregation! Finally, I get to sit down with longtime friend and official congregation member Toby M. John and I get him to open up about his time in the Iraq war and then coming home and selling massive quantities of opiates during the doctor shopping era of South Texas. Then, Toby talks about how microdosing LSD and mushrooms has changed his life, and what it means for his sobriety. Lots of controversial topics on this one folks, so let the debate begin! churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com

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74 - Brad and Kinzie battle for podcast domination! May 14, 2018

IT'S TIIIIIMMMMEEE!!! ok, so I may be playing up the rivalry...but Kinzie heard brad's episode...and just HAD to have his say. So, I did what any good podcast host should do, and invited them both on! Well...turns out , everyone just gets along, and we have an awesome discussion on theology, church, the bible, religion, AA, drugs, and everything we stand for. Good stuff, indeed. I still want them to fight though, on the real.

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71 - Anatomy of Marriage with Seth and Melanie Studley! Apr 22, 2018

And we're back! Jed recovers from one of a weekend, John is in the house, and his stomach is killing him. Jed brings up a metaphor for raccoon behavior and alcoholics (just trust us) and they talk about an amazing encounter with a listener! Then, Seth and Melanie Studley come on the show. Seth and Melanie run the Anatomy of Marriage podcast, where they use their past marriage problems to help struggling couples and spouses-to-be alike live a better marriage life. You don't want to miss this one, folks. anatomyofmarriage.com @COtherdrugs churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com churchandotherdrugs.com

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70 - Maegan and Bobby from The Addictionary Podcast! Apr 15, 2018

What a day , folks. Brad pulls Jed out of a crippling depressive episode in which he is watching the saddest movie scenes in history. They then discuss the unveiling of a new Patreon segment..Brad's True Conspiracy Facts. You won't want to miss it. Then, Jed brings on new friends Bobby and Maegan from the addictionary podcast. This Father-Daughter combo is the most interesting recovering family Jed has interviewed, bar none. Listen and go subscribe and support The Addictionary Podcast! theaddictionarypodcast.com churchandotherdrugs.com @COtherdrugs churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com

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69 - Besh and Jed reveal that Besh is really Dinesh from Silicon Valley Apr 10, 2018

Greetings congregation! We have another fun-filled Jed and Besh episode, where we first check in with Jed's ongoing crisis of detoxing off psychiatric medication, yelling at children, and getting publicly humiliated by Dirty Mike at a crowded movie theater. Besh lets us know how he has been doing, the struggles on getting a P.H.D, commiserating with Chris from Dopey, maintaining sobriety in liberal portland, and much more. besh reminds Jed he used to be a flat-earther, and then we reveal that besh is , in reality, Dinesh from the hit HBO show Silicon Valley. Betchu didn't see that coming, now did you? churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com churchandotherdrugs.com @COtherdrugs

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68 - Dylan and Kinzie answer your questions about the Bible! Apr 02, 2018

Happy Easter Congregation! John and Jed wanted to do as little work as possible over the holidays, so we enlisted our favorite nerd-- I mean, scholar, Kinzie! But, since Kinzie is also lazy, he enlisted his right-hand man, Dylan to answer any and all of the congregation's (you guys) questions! We run the whole gambit here, folks, and it gets heated more than once. Mainly because John just reallllyyy pisses Jed off. Yay! Easter! Churchandotherdrugs.com churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com @COtherdrugs

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67 - Acting, Addiction, Amputation and The Life After with John Mabry! Mar 26, 2018

John is back! Kind of. And it's a good thing, because Jed is deep in the throws of antidepressant withdrawals, and is struggling to keep it together. The OG hosts talk plenty of random fun, including Pablo Escobear. Then, Jed gets the distinct pleasure of sitting down with John Mabry, a former athlete that met tragedy in the form of an auto accident that took his leg, and then launched into a life of drug addiction that led him to Hollywood , the playboy mansion, all the way down to living in a camper down by the river. mabryliving.com @COtherdrugs churchandotherdrugs.com churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com

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65 - What Would Jesus Sell? w/ James Wightman Mar 12, 2018

Seriously though...maybe houses? Dude was a great carpenter. But on a serious note, we have a great episode for you , congregation. Jed brings on his best friend Brad (and Eric annoyingly in the backdrop)because he was having a rough day and needed a pick me up..they discuss opium dens and Benjamin Franklin quotes. Then Jed had an amazing talk with James Wightman...director/producer of the forthcoming documentary "What Would Jesus Sell?" which is a fact-facing and blunt look at the 'Christian Contemporary Music' scene in all of it's rawness. I'm very much looking forward to it. Please consider backing it on its crowdfund campaign: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1711839087/what-would-jesus-sell-a-badchristian-documentary churchandotherdrugs.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com

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64 - ’Rehab’ Bob Forrest from Celebrity Rehab, Thelonius Monster, and Sober House! Mar 04, 2018

Greetings Congregation! This week we had the very distinct pleasure to sit down and talk with BOB FORREST! The man who got some of your favorite musicians and actors sober, Rehab Bob Forrest! Bob is the owner of Alo Treatment centers, host of the "Don't Die Podcast", frequently on the news speaking as an addiction expert, and has a documentary about his sobriety journey called "Bob and the Monster" that continues to make the film festival circuit. Bob has been very influential in Jed's recent philosophy on recovery, and it was a great conversation that we are sure you will dig. Also, Jed and Debesh talk about the newest development in the work poo-ing situation. So..there's that. churchandotherdrugs.com churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com @COtherdrugs

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62 - Dirty Mike Part IV - Dirty Mike and the Knife Fight, pt. 1 Feb 18, 2018

THIS IS IT LADIES AND GENTLEMEN! By popular demand, we bring you Dirty Mike, pt.4. Except its a 2-parter...so it's part 4, part 1. Got it? Good. I'm not going to waste time mincing words here, let's just get into the good stuff! This episode brought to you by A Balanced Breakfast Live Twitch Channel. Tune in and watch Matt and Tina play your favorite games! https://www.twitch.tv/abalancedbreakfastlive churchandotherdrugs.com churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com @COtherdrugs

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61 - The tale of Stinky White Boy Feet, ft. Rogers Doyle Feb 11, 2018

Holla! John and Jed start the episode off with Jed talking about his first drug education class, and how the years of digging in the depths of the internet reading about drugs has finally paid off. Then, we discuss how an MMA event helped Jed realize that mankind hasn't advanced in the slightest. Then, Besh and Jed interview Besh's home boy from back in the day, Rogers! AKA Stinky White Boy feet. Rogers was there slangin' dope in New Orleans with Besh waaay back in the day, and had a long hard road to sobriety. Rogers helps run Solstice Recovery today, and we'd love if you'd check them out and consider donating! Solsticerecovery.com churchandotherdrugs.com churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com @COtherdrugs

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60 - Suboxone Treatment and old Rehab stories from Jed and Besh’s counselor, Jeffrey Dupuis! Feb 04, 2018

Besh and Jed ride this episode out, sans Jay. He's got the man-flu. They discuss the finer points in life, namely how Debesh is such a lousy C&OD fan that Jed has to EXPLAIN the 'Today I Learned' segment to him. Good grief, Charlie Brown. In the meat part of the episode sandwich, Jed and Besh get to talk to their old counselor, Jeffrey Dupuis! Jeffrey is a multi-talented counselor, holistic healer, and recently opened a suboxone clinic to combat heroin deaths in New Orleans. Jed and Besh had some serious questions about that, and Jeffrey is able to dispell myth and present a fine case for medication assisted recovery. Also...Besh doesn't know who Toto is. What. The. French. Toast. churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com churchandotherdrugs.com @COtherdrugs

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59 - Jed and Dave get Dopey Jan 29, 2018

Greetings Congregation! Jay is being a putz, so what does Jed do? Call in some heavy hitters! Dave from 'Dopey: The Podcast about drugs, addiction and dumb' stops by to tell the story of getting sober, producing TV shows, and ending up creating Dopey. Dave & Chris have become great friends of C&OD, so everyone do them a solid and go listen, subscribe and leave reviews! Dopeypodcast.com churchandotherdrugs.com churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com Dopey on itunes, stitcher, google play

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58 - Q&A on the Road Episode ft. Jonathan McGoo Jan 22, 2018

On the road again...just can't wait to be on the road again. Jed and Jay had another great weekend at the Seabrook Men's Retreat, and we managed to trap our good friend Jonathan McGoo into being on the podcast...because he had no choice, we were stuck in a car together. We answer questions sent in by YOU guys, the congregation. We cover everything from our favorite drunk stories to what race and socioeconomic status has to do with getting sober. You'll have to excuse the rough audio quality..we were in a car, afterall. Churchandotherdrugs.com @COtherdrugs churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com

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56 - Jed gets committed to a Psych Ward! w/ Nathan B. Jan 15, 2018

Jed is currently DEVASTATED from the Saints defeat at the hands of the evil, despicable Vikings..so please say a prayer for him. *sigh* But we digress, welcome to another week! Jed does his best wrestling voice, Jay thinks we're too depressing, and we get a TIL about the funniest man ever, Robin Williams. Then , we talk to an old friend of Jed's, Nathan, who got Jed committed to a psych ward. And he's totally not still bitter about it. Definately. Seriously. Nathan tells an amazing story of what a true-blue alcoholic looks like, and how he overcame and got eight years of sobriety. churchandotherdrugs.com @COtherdrugs churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com

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55 - Are Any Of Us Real?? w/ Jon Fuller Jan 08, 2018

Seriously though..how real are you? I'm only 80% sure at any given time I'm even existing at all..so, there's that. I blame LSD. Jay and Jed bring you another action-packed episode this week , and they start things off by discussing Jay breaking down and crying like a little child, Jed being awe-struck by a very on-point sermon he heard, and reading probably THE most akward text message ever from Dirty Mike. Then, Jed gets a chance to talk to Jon Fuller; author, podcaster and all-around badass. Man..I'm really into hyphens aren't I? They discuss what it means to be "real", and dive deep into Jon's past, where they find some striking similarities. Then Jed gets a prophetic word for him..and it's a good one. We round it out with a TIL about the reproductive habits of honey bees. Yup. Standard stuff. rureal.org jonbfuller@gmail.com for a chance to win a free book! churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com churchandotherdrugs.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs all $25 donors get a free shirt!

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54 - Who/what were Satan and the Elohim? w/ Dr. Michael Heiser! Dec 31, 2017

By the rings of Saturn, we've got another Dr. in the house! Dr. Michael Heiser joins us to talk about what Satan REALLY was and where he actually came from. What were the Elohim? What happened at eden? Babel? and Revelation? How does this fit in with Ancient Aliens? What's the deal with airline food? He tackles (most) all of these questions and more! On the dumber side of things, Jed and Debesh have a recording session in the same room, and it's very akward. They talk about Lil Windex, we have a new patreon (thanks Chris Steepleton!) We eulogize the passing of 2 brothers, and we talk about ...bathroom stuff. Enjoy and happy new year! www.drmsh.com for all of Dr. Heiser's projects churchandotherdrugs.com @COtherdrugs churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com

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53 - Brian Godawa, author of Chronicles of the Nephilim and Chronicles of the Apocalypse! Dec 25, 2017

Merrrrryyy Chrisstmasssss! Hope everyone is safe and sound this holiday season, and what better way to escape your forced family fun than to listen to a brand spanking new episode of COD?? Debesh and Jed start the show by going on a very, very angry rant about SJW's, and end it by prank calling Jed and Jay's most-mocked rehab, Passages Malibu! Then, Jed speaks with screenwriter, author, and badass Brian Godawa! He sets Jed straight on what revelation may ACTUALLY be talking about, nephilim, end-times prophecy, and all sorts of light-hearted, christmas family fun! find all of brian's books and information at: www.godawa.com churchandotherdrugs.com churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com @COtherdrugs

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50 - 50th Episode Suprise Step by Step Spectacular! ft. Donna from Method Theology Dec 03, 2017

WE MADE IT! ...well, sort of. FIFTY episodes, y'all. We couldn't have done it without everyone's continued support, and here's to 50 more! On this special episode, Debesh , Jay and Jed talk WAY to much about mid 90's sitcom 'Step by Step' , Corn hub, and Jed introduces a new segment titled "Today I Learned". Then we bring back our old friend Donna from Method Theology to talk about addiction from the female perspective. A very, very needed conversation in our opinion. So sit back , crack a cold mountain dew, puff that vape and enjoy the festivities! listen to Donna and Holly on Method Theology churchandotherdrugs.com churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com @COtherdrugs patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs

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49 - Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas with Jon W. Nov 19, 2017

Greetings Jabronis! We're back for another exciting week where Debesh and Jed do some horrendous Ali G impressions, and talk about just how addicted to facebook Jed really is. We also decide to prank call the " make america sober again" hotline because , well, trump. and reasons. Then in the interview, we bring on another St. Chris alumni, Jon W., one of Jed's older acquaintances. He has a great story of being put into treatment at a young age, staying sober through AA for years, and recently figuring out that maybe he wasn't an addict after all, and what medical cannabis has done for his life. churchandotherdrugs.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs @COtherdrugs facebook and ig

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47 - Witches, Occult and the Esoteric with Truthseekah! Nov 06, 2017

hello , ladies and germs. im exhausted. but i pulled an all-nighter to edit this wonderful show for you. so you better enjoy it. for real. the trinity is back, with Debesh, Jed and Jay bringing you the banter to start things out. We call Kinzie, our patron who gives at almost the highest level, and turns out he's a really cool dude with a wicked sense of humor. Then, Jed sat down with Truthseekah, aka Derek Grosskurth from the Truthseekah podcast and numerous hip-hop albums of the same moniker. Truthseekah brings the truth as they trevail a trecherous path of tenious terror and...ok sorry i got carried away. On the real, they talk about Derek's past with witchcraft and the occult, growing up on an indian reservation, starting a radio show, then a youtube channel and podcast and how that has changed his life. Then they get into some wacky stuff about spirits and angels and demons and all the stuff jay hates. enjoy! Truthseekah.com churchandotherdrugs.com churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com @COtherdrugs

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46 - Heroin Jellyfish and Other Oddities with Besh Oct 30, 2017

Whelp, pretty much like it says, Jed tells the boys ( Besh and Jay) about a dream he had involving heroin jellyfish ground up into a potent powdery pill..right. Weird. Then they talk about Russel Brand's new book on recovery, how the 'opiod epidemic' is nothing new, church practices, and why exactly we refer to God as a "He". All this and more , on this weeks MONUMENTAL episode. AND the boys have a new first...it's sponsored! the band What We Do In Secret is crowdfunding a new album, and they debut the new single "blackout:a sudden exit", be sure to give them all the support! https://whatwedoinsecret.bandcamp.com/ churchandotherdrugs.com churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com @COtherdrugs find us on facebook and IG!

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45 - DMT in the bible?? a conversation with Rev. Danny Nemu Oct 22, 2017

First things first, folks...Jay is back!!! Return of the Jay, indeed. So, the boys start out catching up, and Jed realizes he really doesn't even like Jay as a person, and quickly fires him. Ok..not really. Jay eats too much pizza, and they discuss how weird it is to be in hotel rooms after sobriety, and want to know if that is a common occurance to people who haven't done debaucherus things inside them. Then, Jed interviews Rev. Danny Nemu, author of many, many books including 'NeuroApocalypse'. Danny believes the Old Testament is littered with allusions and direct documentations of psychedelics, including the idea that Manna itself was Ergot, the precursor to LSD. Was the burning bush a DMT-producing Acacia Tree? Was the tabernacle filled with the smoke of cannabinoids? While Jed and Danny may disagree on some fundamental ideas, it was a very enjoyable conversation, and Danny certainly knows what he is talking about. So sit back , and enjoy the trip. links to Danny's material: Talks Entheogens in the Bible: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgn_ddrdHKI Mistranslation of Scripture in the Service of Empire: http://nemusend.co.uk/2012/10/03/censored-scripture/ Ayahuasca research & academic racism: https://vimeo.com/131074831 Articles We three kings of Orient are… drug runners. And not kings http://psypressuk.com/2016/12/22/three-kings-orient-drug-runners-not-kings/ Give us this day our daily dose: Ergot, LSD and the Israelites http://psypressuk.com/2017/02/02/give-us-this-day-our-daily-dose-ergot-lsd-israelites/ Books: Neuro-Apocalypse (with more scripture) http://psypressuk.com/2016/11/04/neuro-apocalypse-new-book-danny-nemu/ Science Revealed. https://psychedelicpress.co.uk/products/science-revealed-by-rev-nemu churchandotherdrugs.com churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com @COtherdrugs

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43 - Ben Croft: On getting Stabbed and getting Sober Oct 09, 2017

This week Jay continues his hiatus (it's over real soon, promise) so Debesh brings the heat, and naturally we end up talking about methadone and conspiracies. Did you know Elvis was an extra in Home Alone? Yeah. Neither did we. Jed gives his best evidence.(it's not much) Then Jed gets the opportunity to sit down with his long-lost buddy Ben Croft. Ben is a social worker in Boston and many years sober today, but He tells us about what brought him to that point; including an unfortunate stabbing incident. (no thats not him in the thumbnail, pretty wicked though huh?)The boys end with a sobering talk on the recent mass shooting in Las Vegas. link to elvis:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXKafsX4foA churchandotherdrugs.com @COtherdrugs patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs

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42 - Jack: From Steroids to Adult Films Oct 02, 2017

This week Jed is joined by his oldest friend, Bradford "Bernie B" Collins and the 2 reminisce about the time Jed took 5 hits of an unknown hallucinogenic drug and forced his friends to take him to the emergency room, where he proceeded to have the worst trip of his life. They also bring up how truly disgusting every restaurant kitchen is; sorry to break it to you, folks. The guest this week is Jack, and we trace his story from New England to sunny Miami, where he gets caught in the Pitbull-esque lifestyle there, turning to selling drugs, taking steroids, and eventually acting in adult films. churchandotherdrugs.com @COtherdrugs find us on facebook consider joining our patreon for bonus content, extra weekly episodes, a private facebook group, swag and more patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs

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40 - What the ?!? ft. Chris Date from Rethinking Sep 18, 2017

This week...Jed and Debesh go straight to . They have a hellish conversation. They give one of an episode. Ok, i think i got all the puns out of my system. But seriously, Jed and Debesh start off talking about what junkies do during natural disasters such as hurricanes, and what it was like being a graveyard shift waiter at waffle house. Then, we get to the meat of the episode when the one, the only, Mr. Chris Date from the Rethinking podcast comes on to share his vast knowledge of the doctrine of 'conditional immortality' , better known as the annihilationist view. This is a spiritual heavy episode, but i think everyone will enjoy getting schooled on what the bible ACTUALLY says about , and what a lot of people just plain made up.

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39 - You Heard What?!? Jed and Besh debunk drug myths, pt. 1 Sep 11, 2017

Acid stays in your spine? ecstacy puts holes in your brain? weed is way stronger than it used to be? what the is spice? Jed and besh put to rest some of the most prevalent drug myths going around today, and seek to edu-ma-cate the congregation on the ways of the chemical cosmos. Also, we see if Cough Medicine could actually make you kill your wife, and find out why Jed has problems putting Mio into water.

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38 - Dirty Mike Part III - Dirty and the Possum Sep 04, 2017

It's that time everyone. Due to overwhelming demand, we bring you Part III in our journey together in unraveling the life of the enigmatic Dirty Mike. The story picks up after the end of part II, where we left dirty being arrested for punching a pharmacist, among other crimes. From there we journey to the big house, and then take a psychedelic left turn into a hurricane-fueled feud with an ornery possum. Then we find out what its like to be a house keeper for ole' dirty...spoiler: its not a good time. The story is far from over folks, but until part IV is revealed, enjoy this tale. Hold your loved ones close. And as promised, here is a link to the newspaper article from the crimes of Part II. (im looking at you, scott) Big thanks to our new patrons Justin and Kenzie! please consider donating to get bonus content and join our private fb page, as well as chances to call in , sticker packs, and more. www.chron.com/neighborhood/artic…laries-9746667.php churchandotherdrugs.com @COtherdrugs churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com music by Carnaval and Chris Brown

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36 - Matt Carter from BadChristian , Break It Down and Emery Aug 21, 2017

We got a great one for you this week, congregation! The boys talk about child actors playing demon-possessed kids, how people handle judgement, and Jed tells the story of how he ended up riding a tortoise. In the main event, Matt Carter stops by to talk the basics: Does God want us to get f****d up? Whats going on with that 'confederate' show? and his thoughts on Christians smoking the devil's lettuce. A fun time was had by all. churchandotherdrugs.com @COtherdrugs churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com find matt at: mattandtoby.com badchristian.com @zodcarter

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35 - Chad Johnson from Come and Live, Provoke & Inspire, and former A&R for Tooth and Nail records! Aug 14, 2017

This week the boys go from Lacrae to LaCroix, talk about racism and the happenings at Charlottesville, VA, how 1 in 8 people are alcoholic. and then sit down with Chad Johnson. Chad was the former A&R guy for Tooth & Nail records, likely the guy that signed your favorite band. But after some soul searching and a word from God, quit the music biz and started a non-profit and podcast. He tells an amazing story about dealing drugs in south america, which if im being honest, i did NOT see coming. laCroix boi video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB_YWGuYGn4 patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs comeandlive.com chad@comeandlive churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com @COtherdrugs intro- a heretic's waltz by Carnaval bumper music by Corey Aucutt as BitRipper

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34 - Omar from the Shair podcast! **fixed audio** Aug 07, 2017

This week , we hear Jed talk about kicking down the door of a patron, getting Renowned on Imgur, Insane Clown Posse being christian, and Jay goes on a vacation...and he DIDN'T kill anyone! While he was gone, Jed got to interview Omar from The Shair podcast, where they dive into the world of online casinos and cocaine in costa rica...and it turned out great. Without Jay. Because we all know who is better. **EDIT** soundcloud screwed something up...sorry to those that listened to the copy missing like..20 minutes. but , these things happen. here ya go! @COtherdrugs patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs kaeli's etsy: www.etsy.com/search?q=le+bijou find The Shair podcast everywhere podcasts are downloaded

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30 - Jake Luhrs from August Burns Red and HeartSupport! Jul 10, 2017

Jed's old high school buddy Jake Luhrs is all grown up and screamin' in the metalcore outfit August Burns Red. He takes some time out to sit down and chat about God, divorce, life on the road, and even to give an update on Tim Lambesis! We also rip on Jay-Z for releasing a terrible album, talk about a Jehovah's Witness encounter, and find out just what the is going on in the Vatican! Also, does anything matter if you believe there's no afterlife? Spoiler alert: Jed and Jay disagree. music in this episode by Carnaval, August Burns Red, and Chris Brown. find jake and heartsupport at: @jakeabr heartsupport.com augustburnsred.com for tour dates and new music news if you know anyone with a substance abuse problem, need advice, or just want to say hello, please email us! churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com @COtherdrugs

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29 - Daniel H. from Released Into Captivity talks prison Jul 03, 2017

This week we interviewed our new buddy Daniel from the brand-new podcast 'Released Into Captivity', where He and his co-host Carlos swap prison stories with fellow inmates that have all been released. We here what landed Daniel with 12 years in the pokey, Jay thinks skinny jeans are going away, and the guys start this one off with a lovely conversation about...serial killers. find Released Into Captivity anywhere you listen to podcasts and at releasedintocaptivity.com intro music: carnaval outro: Chris Brown

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28 - Jed’s wife and Nitrous tanks Jun 26, 2017

This week , due to Jay's negligence, we brought in Jed's wife Kaeli last-minute to discuss a myriad of random topics. We cover Carrie Fisher's autopsy results, killer whales stealing fish, Jay explains his rap beef with "Webby D", and for some reason, there's a lot of talk about Nitrous. Webby D's Sweet Music Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nknPayQ_x8 Patreon: www.patreon.com/user?u=4671454 Email: Churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com FB: www.facebook,com/churchandotherdrugs/ Twitter: twitter.com/COdrugs music: intro- A Heretic's waltz by carnaval, carnavalmusic.bandcamp.com Outro-Don't call me by MrBRWN @misterbrwn other music by Stephen Benitez, soundcloud.com/t-e-z3

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27 - -Norman Ohler, author of ”Blitzed: Drugs in the Third Reich” Jun 19, 2017

This week Jed gets the pleasure of sitting down with New York Times best-selling author Norman Ohler to talk about his book on drug use during WWII. Did you know Hitler was a junkie? Well, you're about to find out. Also, Jay and Jed premiere the new theme song for "things i heard in drug school" and boy, is it a winner. Patreon: www.patreon.com/user?u=4671454 Email: Churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com FB: www.facebook,com/churchandotherdrugs/ Twitter: twitter.com/COdrugs music: intro- A Heretic's waltz by carnaval, carnavalmusic.bandcamp.com Outro-Don't call me by MrBRWN @misterbrwn other music by Stephen Benitez, soundcloud.com/t-e-z3

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24 - Evan the AA Advocate Pastor May 29, 2017

Our buddy Evan stops by to chat about Star Wars, growing up with a Dad in recovery, why he told Jed to go to AA, and all things theological. Patreon: www.patreon.com/user?u=4671454 Email: ChurchAndOtherDrugs@gmail.com FB: www.facebook.com/churchandotherdrugs/ Twitter: twitter.com/COtherdrugs Music: Intro - A Heretic's Waltz by Carnaval carnavalmusic.bandcamp.com Outro - Don't Call Me by MrBRWN @misterbrwn

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23 - Shane That Sober Guy May 22, 2017

Our buddy "Shane That Sober Guy" stops by to chat about recovery, 12 step programs, podcasting, and being a Christian in recovery. Also, we talk to Andy about why he is a patron and insists on making Jay watch John Wick. Also, Jed and Jay decide to give away proceeds of their Patreon to charity. Patreon: www.patreon.com/user?u=4671454 Email: ChurchAndOtherDrugs@gmail.com FB: www.facebook.com/churchandotherdrugs/ Twitter: twitter.com/COtherdrugs Music: Intro - A Heretic's Waltz by Carnaval carnavalmusic.bandcamp.com Outro - Don't Call Me by MrBRWN @misterbrwn

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22 - Garrett Russell of Silent Planet May 15, 2017

Garrett Russell from Silent Planet drops by to talk about worshipping lead singers, "Christian" music, and manic episodes. Also, Jed is the worst interviewer ever, Jay has to watch John Wick, and Jed has a resentment against the "Methadone Mumbler". Patreon: www.patreon.com/user?u=4671454 Methadone Mumbler Blog: http://bit.ly/2qkEIC4 Email: ChurchAndOtherDrugs@gmail.com FB: www.facebook.com/churchandotherdrugs/ Twitter: twitter.com/COtherdrugs Music: Intro - A Heretic's Waltz by Carnaval carnavalmusic.bandcamp.com Panic Room by Silent Planet Depths II by Silent Planet Outro - Don't Call Me by MrBRWN @misterbrwn

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21 - Miss Miriam Strikes Back May 08, 2017

Jed's mom, the infamous Miss Miriam, stops by to tell her side of the story. Also, Jed meets Harry Carry and his friend's car gets jacked. Patreon: www.patreon.com/user?u=4671454 Email: ChurchAndOtherDrugs@gmail.com FB: www.facebook.com/churchandotherdrugs/ Twitter: twitter.com/COtherdrugs Music: Intro - A Heretic's Waltz by Carnaval carnavalmusic.bandcamp.com Outdo - Don't Call Me by MrBRWN @misterbrwn

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20 - Ryan Hampton the Recovery Activist May 01, 2017

Ryan Hampton stops by to talk about recovery, anonymity, activism, and #VoicesProject. Also, Jed is cured and you can't say F*** in Louisiana. Patreon: www.patreon.com/user?u=4671454 Email: ChurchAndOtherDrugs@gmail.com FB: www.facebook.com/churchandotherdrugs/ Twitter: twitter.com/COtherdrugs Music: Intro - A Heretic's Waltz by Carnaval carnavalmusic.bandcamp.com Outdo - Don't Call Me by MrBRWN @misterbrwn

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18 - Loss in Recovery Apr 17, 2017

Jed and Jay talk to some folks about what it is like to lose people that you love to the disease of addiction. Patreon: www.patreon.com/user?u=4671454 Email: ChurchAndOtherDrugs@gmail.com FB: www.facebook.com/churchandotherdrugs/ Twitter: twitter.com/COtherdrugs

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17 - Mike Morrell the Divine Dancer Apr 10, 2017

Mike Morrell, co-author of the Divine Dance with Father Richard Rohr and organizing founder of the Wild Goose Festival, stops by to talk about his book, the trinity and Christian Mysticism. Also, Jed is super cranky and Jay was only an hour late. The Divine Dance: http://thedivinedance.org Wild Goose Festival: http://wildgoosefestival.org Patreon: www.patreon.com/user?u=4671454 Email: ChurchAndOtherDrugs@gmail.com FB: www.facebook.com/churchandotherdrugs/ Twitter: twitter.com/COtherdrugs

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14 - Joey Svendsen the fundaMENTAList Pastor Mar 20, 2017

Our buddy Joey comes by to talk about mental health and his book "FundaMENTAList". Also, Jed believes that the world is flat and Jay says goodbye to a very dear friend. Joey's book - FundamentalistPastor.com Patreon: www.patreon.com/user?u=4671454 Email: ChurchAndOtherDrugs@gmail.com FB: www.facebook.com/churchandotherdrugs/ Twitter: twitter.com/COtherdrugs Music: Intro - A Heretic's Waltz by Carnaval carnavalmusic.bandcamp.com Outdo - Don't Call Me by MrBRWN @misterbrwn

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12 - Besh the Hindu Heroin Addict Mar 06, 2017

Besh, Jed's first sponsor, stops by to talk to us about Hinduism, his heroin addiction, and meditation. He also tells us a CRAZY story about a road trip to San Francisco when he was using. Also, it turns out Jay is an idiot and Jed ruined Mardi Gras. Patreon: www.patreon.com/user?u=4671454 Email: ChurchAndOtherDrugs@gmail.com FB: www.facebook.com/churchandotherdrugs/ Twitter: twitter.com/COtherdrugs Music: Intro - A Heretic's Waltz by Carnaval carnavalmusic.bandcamp.com Outdo - Don't Call Me by MrBRWN @misterbrwn

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11 - Wye the Southern Bisexual Jew Feb 27, 2017

Our buddy Wye stops by to talk about what it was like to grow up Jewish in the deep south, his recovery, and how identifying as bisexual has effected his faith. Patreon: www.patreon.com/user?u=4671454 Email: ChurchAndOtherDrugs@gmail.com FB: www.facebook.com/churchandotherdrugs/ Twitter: twitter.com/COtherdrugs Music: Intro - A Heretic's Waltz by Carnaval carnavalmusic.bandcamp.com Outdo - Don't Call Me by MrBRWN @misterbrwn

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10 - Scott the Medicinal Cocaine Inmate Feb 20, 2017

Our buddy, and congregant, Scott comes by to tell us about how he used to shoot medical grade cocaine and spent some time in prison. Also, weed is getting traded on the Canadian stock market and Jed tells a funny story about seeing a car wreck. Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=4671454 Email: ChurchAndOtherDrugs@gmail.com FB: www.facebook.com/churchandotherdrugs/ Twitter: twitter.com/COtherdrugs Music: Intro - A Heretic's Waltz by Carnaval carnavalmusic.bandcamp.com Outdo - Don't Call Me by MrBRWN @misterbrwn

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09 - Westin the Nice-guy Atheist Feb 13, 2017

Jed and Jay talk to Westin who is a self proclaimed Atheist and all around nice guy about what its like getting sober in AA as an Atheist. Jay has some thoughts about Perry Noble's glorious return to the pulpit and Jed says some seriously stupid Christian stuff to his wife. Email: ChurchAndOtherDrugs@gmail.com FB: www.facebook.com/churchandotherdrugs/ Twitter: twitter.com/COtherdrugs Music: Intro - A Heretic's Waltz by Carnaval carnavalmusic.bandcamp.com Outdo - Don't Call Me by MrBRWN @misterbrwn

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08 - One time, at AA camp with *Sponsor John* Feb 05, 2017

The guys go to a mens retreat and talk to Jay's sponsor John about "Peepin Roy", getting hooked on heroin, and drinking a dead man's liquor. Also, Jay gets a little mushy about Jed coming to the mens retreat. Email: ChurchAndOtherDrugs@gmail.com FB: www.facebook.com/churchandotherdrugs/ Twitter: twitter.com/COtherdrugs Music: Intro - A Heretic's Waltz by Carnaval carnavalmusic.bandcamp.com Outdo - Don't Call Me by MrBRWN @misterbrwn

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*Bonus* - Godspeed Jan 26, 2017

Surprise SUCKAS!! We have a bonus episode for you! Jed and Jay catch up with the Godspeed Podcast guys and talk about deconstruction being trendy. Also, Jed airs some grievances about recovery culture and Jay thinks Joel Osteen is a lizard person. Email: ChurchAndOtherDrugs@gmail.com FB: www.facebook.com/churchandotherdrugs/ Twitter: twitter.com/COtherdrugs Music: Intro - A Heretic's Waltz by Carnaval carnavalmusic.bandcamp.com Outdo - Don't Call Me by MrBRWN soundcloud.com/misterbrwn

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05 - Cayce talks about growing up with alcoholic parents Jan 16, 2017

Jay and Jed talk to their old high school friend about what it was like to live with two active alcoholic parents. Also, Jed can't hang with needles anymore and Jay was traumatized by Steven Furtick.

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03 - Andrew the Preacher’s Kid Jan 01, 2017

Our old friend Andrew from Carnaval came and chatted with us about what it was like to be a pastor’s kid, his spirituality now, and his kick band. Email: ChurchAndOtherDrugs@gmail.com FB: www.facebook.com/churchandotherdrugs/ Twitter: twitter.com/COtherdrugs Music: A Heretic's Waltz by Carnaval www.carnavalmusic.bandcamp.com

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02 - C&OD X Dopey Podcast Jan 01, 2017

Jay and Jed from C&OD meet Chris and Dave from Dopey for the first of many podcasts.

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01 - Major Payne Jan 01, 2017

Jed and Jay talk to Major Payne (Jed’s Pops) about what it was like as a Christian man to watch a heroine addict son do what we do. Email: ChurchAndOtherDrugs@gmail.com FB: www.facebook.com/churchandotherdrugs/ Twitter: twitter.com/COtherdrugs Music: A Heretic's Waltz by Carnaval www.carnavalmusic.bandcamp.com

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00 - Intro Episode Dec 31, 2016

Jay and Jed give a rundown of what Church and Other Drugs is all about, talk a little bit about themselves, and apologize in advance for their transgressions. Email: ChurchAndOtherDrugs@gmail.com FB: https://www.facebook.com/churchandotherdrugs/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/COtherdrugs Music: A Heretic's Waltz by Carnaval carnavalmusic.bandcamp.com

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