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    ChooseFI | Financial Independence Podcast

    Jonathan & Brad explore the world of Financial Independence. They discuss reducing expenses, crushing debt, building passive income streams through online businesses and real estate. How to pay off debt, Crush your grocery bill and travel the world for free. No topic is too big or small as long as it speeds up the process of reaching financial independence.

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    Dark Side of Value Jan 19, 2018
    Show notes

    Most people think financial independence is a solo marathon. But what if the real secret is who runs beside you?

    At Camp FI, Jonathan and Brad saw firsthand how community transforms the journey to FI. They share stories from the event, from board game nights that forge lasting friendships to roundtable discussions that shift perspectives. One attendee's observation particularly resonated: when change seems possible in a group setting, it becomes more real for individuals.

    The hosts dig into practical ways to build these connections, starting with local FI groups. These gatherings exist in cities across the country—and if one doesn't exist near you, the resources are available to start one. The conversation also addresses a critical relationship challenge: aligning financial goals with your partner. Without that alignment, even the best laid FI plans can falter.

    Chapters

    • [00:00:00] Introduction and Background
    • [00:04:44] Community Highlights
    • [00:08:43] Feedback from Camp FI
    • [00:10:59] Building Local Groups and Community
    • [00:40:14] Pension Advice and Support Systems

    Key Quotes

    • "Community is at the heart of life optimizations." [00:14:01]
    • "Bonding over board games with your tribe is priceless." [00:07:26]
    • "Choosing how to spend time in FI is empowering." [00:07:20]
    • "Local groups are accessible everywhere." [00:10:59]
    • "Community enhances the potential for personal change." [00:12:08]

    Resources

    • ChooseFI website resources
    • The Power of Habit by Charles Duhigg

    Join the Community
    Connect with thousands on the path to financial independence. Share wins, ask questions, and stay accountable. Join ChooseFI.

    New to ChooseFI?
    Start with our most popular episodes, hand-picked to give you the foundation of financial independence. Listen to the essentials.

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    Find out when you could reach financial independence with our free calculators and planning tools. Try the FI Calculator.

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    Annual CFP Roundtable 2017 | Kyle Mast and Danny Kenny Jan 15, 2018
    Show notes

    CFPs who practice financial independence aren't an oxymoron — they're your secret weapon. Kyle Mast and Danny Kenney are certified financial planners embedded in the FI community, and they're here to answer the questions you voted most urgent: when DIY fails, how to pay for advice without getting fleeced, and why even hardcore index fund enthusiasts miss blind spots a planner can catch in one conversation.

    Introduction and Overview

    [00:00:00] - The episode kicks off with an introduction to the unique intersection of certified financial planning and the FI movement.

    Panel Introduction

    [00:02:44] - Brad and Jonathan introduce Kyle Mast and Danny Kenney, both CFPs who are active members of the FI community.

    Personal Stories from CFPs

    [00:03:04] - Kyle and Danny share their personal journeys into financial independence and how they apply FI principles in their professional practices.

    Valuing Certified Financial Planners

    [00:06:57] - Discussion of the distinct value CFPs provide beyond investment management. The planning process itself — identifying blind spots, optimizing tax strategies, coordinating complex decisions — is where the real value lies, even for confident DIYers.

    Key Insight: "Even a DIYer, you might not know what you're missing." A one-time consultation can reveal overlooked opportunities or risks.

    Client Engagement and Dynamics

    [00:09:18] - CFPs often serve as mediators between spouses, helping couples align on financial goals and risk tolerance. This neutral third-party perspective can defuse tension and create shared understanding.

    Questions from the Community

    [00:15:32] - The hosts begin addressing the top community-submitted questions, ranging from fee structures to finding the right planner.

    Fees and Planning Models

    [00:16:49] - Explanation of different fee structures: hourly rates, flat retainers, asset-based fees, and one-time project fees. Fee models vary widely depending on the planner's business model and the complexity of your situation.

    Finding a Competent CFP

    [00:23:01] - Recommendations for locating CFPs who understand FI principles and aren't incentivized to sell products. Resources like XY Planning Network are mentioned as starting points.

    The Importance of Fiduciaries

    [00:25:30] - Explanation of fiduciary duty: a legal and ethical obligation to act in the client's best interest. Not all financial advisors are fiduciaries, and it's critical to confirm this before engaging.

    Shifting Tax Strategies

    [00:31:25] - Discussion of recent tax law changes and strategies to consider, including the timing of conversions, capital gains harvesting, and bracket management.

    Psychological Aspects of Investing

    [00:38:08] - Exploration of behavioral finance: how emotions, risk tolerance, and spousal communication impact investment decisions. A planner can help filter choices through a rational lens during market volatility.

    The Value of Financial Retreats

    [01:11:12] - The planners advocate for annual "financial retreats" — dedicated time for families to review goals, reassess strategies, and ensure everyone is aligned.

    Key Quotes

    • "Even a DIYer, you might not know what you're missing." [00:06:57]
    • "The planning is where the true value is provided." [00:06:57]
    • "CFPs often mediate discussions between spouses." [00:09:18]
    • "Everyone should talk to a CFP at some point." [00:21:33]

    Related Resources

    • XY Planning Network - A network for finding fee-only CFPs who work with clients on a retainer or hourly basis.
    • Nerd's Eye View by Michael Kitces - A financial planning blog with deep technical insights.

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    New to ChooseFI?
    Start with our most popular episodes, hand-picked to give you the foundation of financial independence. Listen to the essentials.

    Run Your Numbers
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    CampFI Roundtable 2018 Jan 12, 2018
    Show notes

    Most financial independence events are just networking—but what if attending one fundamentally changed how you think about community?

    At the first-ever Camp FI in Gainesville, Florida, attendees gathered not just to exchange ideas but to confront a deeper truth: the path to financial independence is rarely a solo journey. This roundtable discussion brings together three distinctive voices navigating their own paths—Doug Nordman, who built community resilience through military service; Bianca, a flight attendant learning to hold financial plans loosely; and JD, rebooting the Get Rich Slowly blog with a commitment to share knowledge relentlessly.

    Key Discussions

    Community and Military Financial Independence [00:03:59] Doug Nordman shares insights from his military background, noting that roughly 10% of podcast audiences he reaches are current service members or veterans. His work focuses on how military personnel can leverage their unique benefits while building financial independence.

    Flexibility in Financial Plans [00:08:29] Bianca discusses her journey as a flight attendant, emphasizing that life circumstances shift unpectedly and financial goals must adapt accordingly. Her experience highlights the importance of building flexible plans rather than rigid targets.

    The Get Rich Slowly Reboot [00:10:17] JD shares his experience reacquiring the Get Rich Slowly blog and his ambitious publishing schedule. Even during Camp FI, he managed to write two articles, demonstrating his dedication to consistent content creation and community engagement.

    Building Resilience [00:18:10] The conversation turns to resilience as a core skill in financial independence. When setbacks occur—whether job loss, health issues, or market downturns—resilience enables continued progress toward financial goals.

    Diverse Paths to FI [00:23:30] Cody and other attendees share their unique approaches to financial independence, illustrating that there's no single correct path. Each person's circumstances, values, and goals create a customized journey.

    Chapter Markers

    • [00:00:00] Introduction by Jonathan
    • [00:01:43] Welcome and Camp FI Discussion
    • [00:03:59] Personal Insights from Doug Nordman
    • [00:08:29] Bianca's Path to FI
    • [00:10:17] JD's Perspective on Community
    • [00:23:30] Cody's Story and Young Perspectives
    • [00:47:29] Closing Remarks

    Resources

    • The Military Guide - Doug Nordman's resource for military financial independence
    • Get Rich Slowly - JD's platform for personal finance insights

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    Start with our most popular episodes, hand-picked to give you the foundation of financial independence. Listen to the essentials.

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    057 | How to Value Your Pension: Should You Stay for the Benefits? Jan 07, 2018
    Show notes

    A pension might seem like the ultimate financial safety net — until you realize it's chaining you to a job you've outgrown. This tension is what guest Grumpus Maximus calls the "golden albatross," and it's a trap uniquely familiar to military personnel and other pension-track workers weighing years of service against personal fulfillment.

    Grumpus, a military veteran, shares his journey of understanding how pensions complicate financial independence planning. He discusses the emotional weight of deciding whether to stay for the pension or leave for mental health and purpose, the importance of partner communication around money, and practical strategies for evaluating whether your pension is helping or hurting your path to FI.

    Key Topics Discussed

    • Introduction to Pensions [00:01:09]
      How pensions play a role in financial independence and the emotional weight they carry.

    • Guest Introduction: Grumpus Maximus [00:02:26]
      Grumpus shares his background, the origin of his persona, and his passion for financial independence.

    • Grumpus's Backstory [00:04:47]
      Insight into Grumpus's upbringing, military background, and journey to understanding FI, including a significant personal injury lawsuit that shaped his financial perspective.

    • The Golden Albatross Concept [00:11:59]
      Exploration of the "golden albatross," where a pension can feel like both a blessing and a burden, trapping individuals in jobs they've outgrown.

    • Navigating Military Life and Financial Independence [00:35:35]
      Grumpus shares the emotional and mental challenges faced by military personnel, highlighting the need for financial education and planning.

    Actionable Takeaways

    • Understand Your Pension [00:11:59]
      Take time to learn how your pension impacts your financial independence plan.

    • Engage in Financial Discussions with Partners [00:25:36]
      Regularly communicate financial goals and concerns with your partner to ensure mutual understanding.

    • Track Your Finances [00:26:06]
      Consistently monitor your income and expenses to gain valuable insights into your financial health.

    Key Quotes

    • "A pension can be both a blessing and a burden, much like a golden albatross." [00:01:09]
    • "Without buy-in from your partner, financial planning can lead to many challenges." [00:25:36]
    • "Tracking your finances provides invaluable insights and benefits throughout your life." [00:26:06]
    • "The golden albatross can trap workers in unfulfilling jobs." [00:11:59]

    Chapter Markers

    • [00:01:09] Introduction to Pensions
    • [00:02:26] Guest Introduction: Grumpus Maximus
    • [00:04:47] Grumpus's Backstory
    • [00:11:59] The Golden Albatross Concept
    • [00:35:35] Navigating Military Life and Financial Independence

    Related Resources

    • Can I Retire Yet? [00:58:41]
    • Your Money or Your Life [01:05:10]

    ▶ Listen Next: Ep. 060 — Medical Tourism: How to Save Thousands on Healthcare Abroad | Essential Listening

    Join the Community
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    New to ChooseFI?
    Start with our most popular episodes, hand-picked to give you the foundation of financial independence. Listen to the essentials.

    Run Your Numbers
    Find out when you could reach financial independence with our free calculators and planning tools. Try the FI Calculator.

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    Choose FI Nation Jan 05, 2018
    Show notes

    You can't set and forget your net worth — unless you're tracking it quarterly, you'll never spot where your money is actually leaking. The first Friday Roundup of 2018 covers listener questions on net worth tracking, using HSAs for travel reward minimum spends, maximizing the Southwest Companion Pass, and leveraging community support to grow side businesses. Brad and Jonathan share updates on their collaboration with Alan and Talis, plus highlight why "burning the boats" on financial goals forces real commitment.

    Key Topics Discussed

    00:00:00 - Introduction

    Introduction to the episode and what listeners can expect.

    00:05:00 - Community Engagement

    Community support in financial independence. Reflection on how the community has come together to improve week by week.

    00:12:00 - Tracking Your Net Worth

    Why tracking your net worth is crucial ("What doesn't get tracked can't get improved on"). Tips for maintaining records of financial progress.

    00:34:00 - Travel Rewards with HSA

    Utilizing Health Savings Accounts (HSAs) to meet minimum spending requirements for travel rewards.

    00:36:00 - Southwest Companion Pass Explained

    Explanation of the Southwest Companion Pass as a tool for maximizing travel rewards. Steps on how to obtain the Companion Pass and its benefits.

    00:42:00 - Voicemail Insights

    Listener voicemails sharing personal experiences and tips related to financial independence and business growth.

    00:56:00 - Conclusion

    Encouragement to leave reviews and participate in the community discussions.

    Key Quotes

    • "What doesn't get tracked can't get improved on." [00:12:31]
    • "People made mistakes with money. We just try to get a little better every day." [00:04:18]
    • "You're all in, there's no going back. We burnt the boats." [00:07:30]
    • "It's about creating evergreen content that helps you where you are." [00:06:37]

    Related Resources

    • Personal Capital [00:57:36]
    • Southwest Travel Rewards [00:36:40]

    Join the Community
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    New to ChooseFI?
    Start with our most popular episodes, hand-picked to give you the foundation of financial independence. Listen to the essentials.

    Run Your Numbers
    Find out when you could reach financial independence with our free calculators and planning tools. Try the FI Calculator.

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    056 | How to Start a Business with No Money Part 1 Dec 31, 2017
    Show notes

    Most people assume you need deep pockets to launch a business that actually helps people. Talis Drew proves otherwise. In this coaching session, ballroom dance instructor Talis Drew shares how she's bringing dance therapy to people with Parkinson's disease — without taking on crushing debt or waiting for grants to materialize. Coach Alan Donegan walks her through identifying who actually pays for these services (hint: it's rarely the end user), forming strategic partnerships with hospitals and support groups, and building evidence that strengthens every funding pitch. Brad and Jonathan sit in as Alan helps Talis untangle the difference between the people she serves and the organizations that will write the checks.

    Chapters

    • [00:03:49] Introduction to Talis and Her Mission
    • [00:07:28] The Importance of Social Benefits
    • [00:08:08] Discussion on Funding Strategies
    • [01:01:33] Exploring Customer Identification
    • [01:02:11] Conclusion and Next Steps

    Key Insights

    Understanding the Target Audience: Identifying who will pay for services is crucial for success. Talis's funding comes from local chapters and medical institutions, highlighting the importance of community engagement.

    Benefits of Dance Therapy: The episode outlines three primary benefits of dance therapy for individuals with Parkinson's disease: exercise, musical engagement, and social interaction.

    Securing Funding: Exploring different funding sources, including partnerships with local businesses and health organizations.

    Collecting Evidence: Documenting the effectiveness of programs through feedback and surveys can strengthen pitches to sponsors and funders.

    Building a Community: Forming connections in the community can lead to potential funding and sponsorship opportunities, as well as increased visibility for the workshops.

    Action Items

    • [00:20:16] Create a list of potential sponsors and funders for the dance classes
    • [00:22:41] Collect data on participant outcomes to demonstrate program effectiveness
    • [00:49:15] Develop branding and a website for the Parkinson's Dance Project

    Notable Quotes

    • [01:01:33] "The progress you make in your business is directly related to the clarity of which you can describe exactly who your customer is."
    • [00:48:50] "Explore win-win partnerships in your business."
    • [00:07:28] "Social interaction is key for wellbeing."

    Resources

    • American Parkinson's Disease Association: https://www.apdaparkinson.org/
    • Dance Therapy Research Articles: https://www.dance-therapy.net/

    ▶ Listen Next: Ep. 057 — How to Value Your Pension: Should You Stay for the Benefits? | Essential Listening

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    New to ChooseFI?
    Start with our most popular episodes, hand-picked to give you the foundation of financial independence. Listen to the essentials.

    Run Your Numbers
    Find out when you could reach financial independence with our free calculators and planning tools. Try the FI Calculator.

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    End of Year 2017 Review Dec 29, 2017
    Show notes

    What if the best gift you could give costs nothing upfront but compounds for decades? Brad and Jonathan close out the year by unpacking a simple 529 hack for holiday gifting—then open the floodgates to listener voicemails that reveal just how far this community has come. From paying off massive debt to getting married, having kids, and completely rewriting their money stories, these aren't abstract wins. They're real people who radically shifted their financial lives in 12 months, and the threads that connect them all run through over 100 local groups worldwide.

    Key Topics

    • Community Impact and Growth [00:06:14]
      The ChooseFI community has expanded to over 100 local groups worldwide.

    • Listener Stories and Voicemails [00:11:00]
      Community members share their financial journeys, including increased savings, smart investment choices, and personal milestones like marriage and parenthood.

    • Innovative Gift-Giving Ideas [00:03:08]
      Setting up education savings accounts as meaningful holiday gifts instead of traditional presents.

    • ChooseFI Vault Resources [00:16:10]
      Overview of resources available in the ChooseFI vault, including templates and calculators for financial planning.

    • Local Community Groups [00:30:00]
      Engaging with local FI groups to enhance the journey toward financial independence.

    Takeaways

    • Consider setting up 529 or Educational Savings Accounts as part of holiday gift-giving.
    • Engage with local FI community groups by visiting ChooseFI.com/local.
    • Focus on spending habits that prioritize value and what truly brings happiness.

    Key Quotes

    • "It's all about the community! We're in this together." – [00:06:14]
    • "Achieve more without sacrifices!" – [00:42:32]
    • "Focus on abundance, not sacrifice." – [00:44:40]

    Chapters

    • Welcome and Year Recap [00:04:00]
    • Listener Voicemails [00:11:00]
    • Community Feedback and Reflection [00:18:00]
    • ChooseFI Resources Overview [00:16:10]
    • Local Community Groups [00:30:00]
    • Future Plans for the Community [00:57:01]

    Join the Community
    Connect with thousands on the path to financial independence. Share wins, ask questions, and stay accountable. Join ChooseFI.

    New to ChooseFI?
    Start with our most popular episodes, hand-picked to give you the foundation of financial independence. Listen to the essentials.

    Run Your Numbers
    Find out when you could reach financial independence with our free calculators and planning tools. Try the FI Calculator.

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    And the Guest Host is... Dec 21, 2017
    Show notes

    Most people think organizing their finances is about making money — but what if the real gift is what you leave behind when you can't explain it yourself? Fritz from the Retirement Manifesto joins Jonathan to tackle listener questions spanning everything from preparing loved ones for financial emergencies to slashing college costs and avoiding career-limiting mistakes. This Friday Roundup covers the single most overlooked financial document, why "FU money" isn't just about quitting your job, and how risk capacity changes when you're building multiple income streams versus drawing down savings.

    Key Topics

    Financial Love Letters [00:02:01] Creating a document for loved ones that organizes critical financial information can alleviate stress during emergencies.

    • "The greatest gift you can give is clarity in your financial life." [00:03:21]

    FU Money [00:06:50] The concept of FU money and how it can empower individuals to make choices without financial pressure.

    • "Always leave on good terms; you never know when you'll need those connections." [00:06:09]

    Risk Capacity [00:10:20] Differences in risk tolerance and capacity across individuals in the FI community.

    • "Risk capacity varies significantly among individuals in the FI community." [00:11:50]

    Tax Optimization Strategies [00:46:28] Strategies including capital gains harvesting and the use of donor-advised funds to minimize tax liabilities.

    • "Financial strategies are effective and straightforward when diligently followed." [00:08:08]

    College and Education Hacks [00:29:16] CLEP testing and community colleges as strategies to cut education costs.

    Company Stock Pitfalls [00:42:00] The risks associated with holding too much stock in one's own company.

    Action Items

    • Compile a financial love letter for your loved ones detailing essential accounts and contacts. [00:02:01]
    • Consider your risk tolerance and capacity, especially if you have entrepreneurial income. [00:10:54]
    • Utilize capital gains harvesting strategies if eligible under tax brackets. [00:46:00]
    • Assess your current investments for risk exposure and strategize a reduction in company stock holdings. [00:42:00]
    • Evaluate the use of community colleges and CLEP testing to save on higher education costs. [00:29:16]

    Related Resources

    • Retirement Manifesto Blog [00:01:05]
    • Budgets Are Sexy [00:04:40]
    • ChooseFI.com Resources [00:04:07]

    Chapter Markers

    • [00:00:04] Introduction and Friday Roundup
    • [00:01:05] Announcement and Special Guest
    • [00:02:01] Creating a Financial Love Letter
    • [00:06:50] Importance of FU Money
    • [00:10:20] Risk Capacity Discussion
    • [00:16:17] Listeners' Questions and Feedback
    • [00:48:00] Closing Remarks and Reviews

    Key Terminology

    FU Money [00:06:50] Savings that allow you to make choices free from financial pressure.

    Capital Gains Harvesting [00:46:28] Selling investments at a profit to take advantage of tax loopholes.

    CLEP Testing [00:29:16] A college-level examination program that allows students to earn college credit for what they already know.

    Join the Community
    Connect with thousands on the path to financial independence. Share wins, ask questions, and stay accountable. Join ChooseFI.

    New to ChooseFI?
    Start with our most popular episodes, hand-picked to give you the foundation of financial independence. Listen to the essentials.

    Run Your Numbers
    Find out when you could reach financial independence with our free calculators and planning tools. Try the FI Calculator.

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    054 | Fully Funded Lifestyle Change Dec 18, 2017
    Show notes

    Most pharmacy managers don't quit stable six-figure jobs without a backup plan—Jonathan just did, and he's walking you through exactly why the numbers made sense.

    Jonathan announces his transition to pursuing ChooseFI full-time, stepping away from his pharmacy manager position. Supported by co-host Brad, they explore the decision-making process involved in leaving a traditional job for entrepreneurship. The discussion covers the impact of financial discipline—cutting expenses and building savings—which has afforded Jonathan this opportunity. They reflect on how significant savings provide options and flexibility, the anxiety tied to such life changes, and the importance of open communication with loved ones during major transitions. The episode also touches on financial strategy, future growth plans for ChooseFI, and navigating challenges in the shift from employee to entrepreneur.

    Chapters

    Introduction to the Announcement [00:00:00]
    Overview of the episode's focus on a significant personal decision.

    Jonathan's Decision Process [00:01:22]
    Jonathan shares his decision to leave pharmacy management to commit to ChooseFI full-time with encouragement from Brad and family. The importance of community support in making significant life changes.

    Financial Discipline and Choices [00:04:49]
    Discussing how cutting down expenses has provided Jonathan the freedom to make empowered choices. Consider cutting unnecessary expenses to gain financial flexibility.

    The Transition to Full-Time [00:12:00]
    Steps taken by Jonathan to prepare for leaving his job, including discussions with his boss and family dynamics.

    Planning for the Future [00:41:00]
    Overview of future plans for ChooseFI and considerations regarding retirement savings and health insurance. Having a clear strategy helps ensure long-term financial stability.

    Conclusion and Support [00:43:00]
    Highlights the ongoing commitment to helping others achieve financial independence.

    Key Insights

    • "The beauty of this fully funded lifestyle change is that ... you have the opportunity to make that choice from a position of strength." [00:04:49]
    • "Because I applied the principles that we've been talking about on this show over the last eight or nine months, I was able to make this choice and I'm ecstatic." [00:07:41]
    • "Having the power allows you to make decisions." [00:20:04]
    • "This will be a way for me to hold myself accountable." [00:23:38]
    • "It's about trying to take the best strategy." [00:21:51]

    Action Items

    • Communicate openly with family about major life changes for mutual support [00:09:08]
    • Start researching health insurance options for self-employment [00:30:20]
    • Track expenses diligently to gain a clear understanding of your financial situation [00:10:14]
    • Set up a life insurance policy outside of your employment for long-term security [00:25:51]

    Resources

    • Liberty Health Share [00:34:51]
    • Personal Capital [00:43:57]

    Related Episodes

    • Episode /021: The Pillars of FI [00:44:22]
    • Episode /038: The Why of FI [00:44:22]
    • Episode /012: Solo 401k Essentials [00:41:50]

    Terminology

    F you money [00:19:40]
    A financial safety net allowing one to make decisions without worrying about the immediate financial repercussions.

    Travel rewards [00:42:00]
    Points or benefits accumulated by spending that can be redeemed for travel-related expenses.

    Health share ministries [00:34:10]
    Alternatives to traditional health insurance, where members share healthcare costs among themselves.

    ▶ Listen Next: Ep. 055 — Live From Fincon 2017 Dallas TX | Essential Listening

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    End of Year Checklist Dec 15, 2017
    Show notes

    Can starting a side hustle really replace a stable income? Bobby from Millennial Money Man walked away from his day job when his blog earned just $2. This roundup episode unpacks that leap—and the community-building principles that made it work.

    Brad and Jonathan reflect on Bobby's interview, focusing on how he built trust within a niche audience before monetizing. They cover the core mechanics of creating value through blogging, online courses, and content that solves specific problems. The discussion also touches on personal updates, including Jonathan's wife narrating her first audiobook, and a listener voicemail about year-end financial checklists.

    Chapters

    • Introduction and Listener Feedback [00:00:49]
    • Personal Updates [00:01:30]
    • Discussion on the Interview with Bobby [00:05:41]
    • Value Creation and Community Engagement [00:17:55]
    • Listener Voicemail: End of Year Checklist [00:27:24]
    • Recap and Call to Action [00:58:00]

    Key Topics

    • Framing Wealth Conversations [00:00:49]
      Bobby's work shows younger audiences respond when financial topics address their real concerns.

    • Bobby's Entrepreneurial Risk [00:05:41]
      Leaving a stable job at $2/month in blog revenue; the importance of creating value before expecting income.

    • Building Trust in a Niche [00:17:55]
      Engage in communities, contribute freely, and understand audience needs before selling anything.

    • Side Hustle Ideas [00:14:00]
      Teaching online courses or blogging leverage existing expertise into marketable offerings.

    • Year-End Financial Checklist [00:27:24]
      Tax optimization strategies and financial housekeeping before the calendar flips.

    Action Items

    • Reach out to your audience for feedback on what they find valuable [00:21:30]
    • Create a plan for your side hustle, focusing on adding value to others [00:19:15]
    • Join the ChooseFI Facebook group for community insights and support [00:38:05]

    Notable Quotes

    • "Bobby took an incredible risk. He left his stable job when he was making $2 from his site." [00:06:00]
    • "You always have to start by adding value and building trust." [00:11:00]
    • "You can look at what other people are doing that's working and adapt that to your specific purposes." [00:12:20]
    • "It's about finding your tribe and adding value back to people's lives." [00:20:20]

    Resources

    • ChooseFI Facebook Group [00:38:05]
    • Millennial Money Man [00:07:00]

    Join the Community
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    New to ChooseFI?
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