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Watch Chips N Caviar Episode 1 SUBSCRIBE NOW Spotify Podcast Apple Podcast Amazon Music YouTube Video CONNECT WITH AARON SINGERMAN Aaron Singerman's Website REDCON1 Aaron Singerman's New Book REDCON RISING CONNECT WITH ROB BAILEY Rob Bailey's Website Flag Nor Fail Clear, Calculated & Vicious Chips N Caviar Executive Producer, Ryan Monahan ----more---- CHIPS & CAVIAR EP 1 TRANSCRIPTION AARON SINGERMAN 00:00 Welcome to the show, the very first episode of chips and caviar we debated should be caviar and chips and it was almost unanimous. A large majority agreed with you flows really well. Chips and caviar. I bet Kevin chips made more sense because it's like chips heavier. Yeah, we right. I mean, we did a poll on Instagram, which means it's super official. Yeah. And the people voted. And that was that they don't know what they're voting for people are the ones that matter. Yes. And so I figured, right, the first episode, we have a bunch of planned stuff we want to talk about in the future. But I figure right, the first thing is, you know, they say when you're doing like a speech or you're about you're the public speaker right now, I mean, I'm just guess I'm making my foray into that very soon. But, but like they say, the thing that you need to do is to qualify yourself. I've heard that many times and all kinds of stuff is, you know, why would anybody want to listen to us? Like what makes us worth listening to? Why would you want to hear us versus somebody else? Why do you want to spend your time you're your most precious commodity on? Chips and caviar? Exactly. So what I don't, Rob Bailey 01:01 so I will need to know who you are. Yeah, I want to tell who you want to tell them about you. Because I've you know, I've read the rough draft of your book. So you've read some of the book, I've read everything asked me a question you really have read. Everyone asked me an intimate question about the book that I would only remember. AARON SINGERMAN 01:18 Okay, what's the name? Of my drug dealer? I saw get killed. I read. Okay, that was an easy one. I'm gonna do a little harder. Okay. Rob Bailey 01:26 Okay. You made? Okay. Yeah, go ahead. What are you gonna say? You made two trips to Mexico before you outsourced it? Yeah. AARON SINGERMAN 01:34 Before? Okay. What? So when I was getting the steroids from Mexico as a teenager, Rob Bailey 01:39 I was trying to talk in code, you know, I mean, AARON SINGERMAN 01:41 we're gonna do I know. I mean, we're not giving it all away. Rob Bailey 01:44 And we're giving like a little taste of who Aaron singer Minh is right now. If you don't AARON SINGERMAN 01:48 know me, and you're hearing this, you're probably like, what drug is going to? Yeah, it's um, this is just full disclosure. This Rob Bailey 01:55 is a long you don't believe that? I read? Why don't know, because you read books when I read yours. Okay. Give me another question. We're AARON SINGERMAN 02:01 getting really off to you know, I'm a little bit add full disclosure for people out there. And Rob is also some version of that. I feel like, right. You're kind of mentally all over the place, Rob Bailey 02:11 trying to think of things that are very unique to the book. No, no. How about let's just go into when you hit under the porch that I'm showing you that I read the middle and end. You stare in the portrait all night and you were freezing. Look at him. Okay, we're gonna move on, I believe. Oh, Aaron. Singerman. Let's start with you. Let's start with the Aaron Singerman. I've been friends with you for about 14 years. AARON SINGERMAN 02:34 Is it 14 or 15? Something 1415? No, no, Rob Bailey 02:36 I'm not gonna dates. You read it on, Matt. Very exciting life. And I encourage you to go preorder Aaron's book on April 25. There you go or buy Aaron's book, and you can read all about him. It almost seems not true. Yeah. Right. And one of the things I like you're doing with the book is you're putting QR codes in to prove everything because your mother saved literally ever she has. She's the curator of their muse, which is something that's very common between the both of us which are is our moms are lunatics, and just root for us, no matter what. And they just think that we're superheroes. AARON SINGERMAN 03:06 Yes, my mom, no matter what trouble I got into, or what, what successes I've had, she's pretty much steadily believed that I was going to be great, and that I'm amazing, no matter what, even when I really, really wasn't, she'd still believe that was the best. Rob Bailey 03:20 If I got bad grades. My mom was like, the teacher must be wrong. Mom, I didn't even go to college. And she's like, No, they must have done something wrong. It's not you, Robbie. AARON SINGERMAN 03:30 And I think I think there's some because we're getting off topic again. But I think there's some element of one of the reasons that we're both successful, is that we had parents who believed in us tremendously believed us, even maybe irrationally believed in us. And I do the same. I know you notice I have three little boys, Elijah, Aiden, and Asher pheasant 10. And you see, I tell him all the time, how great they are, how handsome they are the smartest ones the best at everything. And I think that positive reinforcement made a big difference for me. And when I hear about parents that our kids have had parents that were, you know, derogatory or overly critical or that it's a detriment, I think it fucks them up. So we got I think we got lucky there. You know, even our both of our moms are pretty wacky. I think we both hit the jackpot there in the sense that we had parents that believes in us because that's not that's not universal. Rob Bailey 04:21 Yeah. So I guess we started out the same with our moms believe in us, but then you took like a hard left turn and started doing heroin. Yeah. So Aaron, you know, and this is absolutely amazing. I remember the first time that you told me, we were business partners at a time you're like, oh, and when I was addicted to heroin, and I was like, Wait, did he just say he was addicted to like, what? But you went through a large portion of your life addicted to hardcore drugs? Rob Bailey 04:46 Yeah, right. That was intravenous heroin and cocaine user gross. It is gross. It's gross. And then that wasn't that didn't happen overnight. I graduated from one thing to another to another and well, that's a topic from another show of, of how that could happen. Somebody because I'd never, of course intended to be any of that. And I wasn't like a young person growing up, because I grew up growing up in the 80s. And especially the 90s. There's a lot of people that did heroin and died and they were rock stars. And there's people that said that that was like a, you know, it looked glamorous at the time to people. I've heard that. It wasn't like that at all. For me, it just one thing led to another, I was addicted to oxy cotton. And I ran out when Hurricane Katrina happened, I moved to Houston, I couldn't find oxy cotton. And so I went to the ghetto, and I found heroin. And yeah, it was it was gross, largely don't do anymore. Me too. Then after that, you've always been in love with bodybuilding. So from the outside, I've seen I obviously know everything about Aaron, but I'll give you the Cliff Notes. He you're very interested in bodybuilding. You did everything you possibly could to get into the industry. And then you eventually did through podcasts, reading articles and things like that. And I think you were always just some guy in the industry and then out of no start a supplement company. Yes. And I think you were the first supplement company Rob Bailey 05:59 that caught the industry off guards. Yeah, it was to just bros up jacked up in tank tops who like in a matter of years, we're on the front of the Olympia. They'll building the Las Vegas you were 80 feet tall. And it was like, Wait, what the fuck? Like how did these dudes these two bros? Yeah, do this. Driving Ferraris and Lamborghinis and it was insane to watch. Insane to watch. So once again, that company with Blackstone Labs, yes. You then separate it from that company fell out what a partnership dispute. Yeah, the world exploded. You then went on to start redcon one, which is the fastest growing supplement company in the world, which I mean the same exact growth. If not, I mean, more, AARON SINGERMAN 06:45 right. Blackstone was considered a big success. And we do almost in their best year buxton's Best Year we do that kind of revenue, almost in an average month. Yeah. Rob Bailey 06:55 Which is insane. And to watch to watch that, because I was there from the start to watch that scale so quickly. And I was like, Wow, this dude doesn't miss like he is just jumping to another line started from the scratch, ground up picking up athletes formulas in your kitchen and then just explodes. And just watching the magical growth of Aaron Singerman, only to be indicted by the government go to prison. Like this, this, like just mountain shooting to the moon. And then all of a sudden, it was like, Hey, I think I might be going to jail. start drinking a lot, you know, go through some trouble next, you know, lashes in prison. And I'm going to visit you in prison. I'm like, damn, like, company's still kicking ass out there. And now you're out. And out. I mean, that's a very short little intro. But I think that to sum it all up. It's it's it dude. It's amazing. Because I think a lot of people's circumstances, it just feels like it's going to be this forever. So if you're down, you're down forever. Or if you're up, you're up forever, right? And I think you're someone that's just like, always moving forward, always looking for opportunity when doors closed and always wants to win. Right. And he's just very passionate about life, too, right? Yeah. I mean, you're the one person that I think at all the Expos You're always like, Hey, man, do you want to go do something this morning before the expo? And it's not just, you know, go lift weights? It's like, do you want to go walk on and check out this battleship or see something locally, and you have a really big passion for life? Which is really, really cool. Yeah, I AARON SINGERMAN 08:25 think one thing that we both share is, and we've talked about this recently, just me and you're doing our walks, because Rob has been here for a week now. And I walk in the morning, I just got back into it. Starting January 1, where I started religiously walking again, at least an hour every morning when I wake up. And we talked about being excited. And it's something that I think, you know, it's undervalued. And I think that as an entrepreneur being able to be or get very excited about an idea or progress or it really anything, where it's like people pick up on it. And that's something that I didn't really realize how powerful it was. And I saw it and people, other entrepreneurs like you, and some other other friends that have been very successful. It's the even like Jordan Zimmerman, you know, he's 65 now and he's, he owns the fifth biggest advertising firm in the world. He's my close, close buddy, self made billionaire. He has this excitement about him, where he has this energy that palpable, where you're like, this fucking guy's got something. And I see that you and I see that me and other people see that. And I think that that passion for life is something that not everybody has. But I think it's something that can be built. And maybe we'll talk about that in a future show. Because I think that is one of the things that's really common in super successful entrepreneurs. Whether it's somebody like an Elon Musk or a Bill Gates, that level of obsession that really is attached to excitement. If you don't have excitement for life and what you're doing, it's very difficult to do something that's maybe even monotonous hard and going to take a long time. Okay, Rob Bailey, Rob Bailey, creative genius, for sure. So the difference between me and Rob is my artistic ability is limited to ideas. Rob's artistic ability is limitless. And so Rob started out in high school as a young man as an athlete, which I think is cool because he had this tremendous athletic ability. But it was combined with artistic ability. Your mom told me way back in the day that that he was Robbie Robbie was, was a great athlete. He was good at every sport. You were. You were like the top right. You were the captain of the football team wasn't Captain, you were one of the best players. Rob Bailey 10:32 I was the most athletic, most AARON SINGERMAN 10:33 athletic player. You're where you a homecoming king? No, you weren't. My Rob Bailey 10:38 mom told you. She might have so that's my mom, for example. She's probably like, so like, I made my tux for prom. That's, that's AARON SINGERMAN 10:44 my thing she saw. I Rob Bailey 10:45 think that my mom, he made all his own clothes. She's AARON SINGERMAN 10:49 definitely not homecoming queen. But I mean, look, ultimately, you're successful as an athlete. And you're also creative. made your own clothes, make your tuxedo you have this ability and interest in in being creative. You're somebody who's from your from your handwriting, which is incredibly unique and different has been iconic for your brand. And use that in the very infancy of the fitness industry of social media. Obviously, you met Daniel and Bailey in college. She was a soccer player. You were an athlete in college, right? Yeah. What did you play? I played football, played football in college, and she played soccer. You guys met? Fell in love. And you're the first person what how I even noticed you was Deena was this this great athlete in the fitness industry that had awesome abs. She's bad girl. I had really good she had good house. Yeah, and had no boobs too. She had no implants. So those two things is crazy. That sounds she had a she's very pretty. She had a unique hair cut great abs and no boobs and no boobs things as weird as that sounds is is like an outlier in the fitness industry. And so I had noticed her and thought she had a great look. And the thing I really noticed that made me notice her was the video content that was being done with her. And I said wow, this video content is really unique and very different. And if she was being featured in such a way that it brought much more attention to her than she would have if she wouldn't have done this content. And so I was like Who is the one making this because I I'm great at it that even though I'm not I couldn't have created the content I can certainly spot talent and what's cool very easily it's something that I think is is one of the things that has been made me successful to is even though I may not understand a trend, I can identify it spot it and see like, you know, this is different this is cool. And so I saw the videos I remember hearing from I don't remember how I want to say it was Jose Raymond or one of the guys who was in the industry at the time. So that's all her husband her husband is the is the talent like she's got the physique but this is the guy behind the behind the scenes making this stuff come to life. And so I had before we ever met I had a lot of interest in meeting you. A…
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