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Shipping Reusable Full-Stack Components with Fran Zekan Feb 07, 2025

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Fran Zekan, an engineer from Croatia with experience in hardware, robotics, and web development, joins Kent to discuss his talk, Shipping Reusable Full-Stack Components. Fran explains how React Server Components (RSCs) allow developers to build truly self-contained, reusable full-stack features—something that has long been a staple in the Rails ecosystem with Rails Engines.

In this conversation, Fran and Kent discuss:

How RSCs simplify full-stack development by eliminating the need for multiple setup steps.
Comparisons between RSCs and Rails Engines, and how they bring backend-like encapsulation to React.
Real-world examples, including a Stripe Checkout component that can be dropped into any app.
The evolution of scaling strategies across different web frameworks, from serverless to Astro’s CDN-first approach.
The future of modular, scalable web apps and the potential for Rails-to-React migration.

Fran also shares why he prioritizes in-person conferences, the value of deep technical discussions, and why he believes the Epic Web Conf community is a perfect space for these conversations.

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Guest: Fran Zekan

𝕏: @Zeko369
GitHub: @Zeko369

Host: Kent C. Dodds

Website: kentcdodds.com
𝕏: @kentcdodds
GitHub: @kentcdodds
YouTube: Kent C. Dodds
Epic Web: epicweb.dev

Learning-Driven Development with Josh Cirre Feb 06, 2025

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Josh Cirre, a developer advocate and content creator, joins Kent to discuss his talk at Epic Web Conf: "Learning-Driven Development." Josh shares his philosophy on learning by doing—where the best way to master new technologies is by applying them to real-world projects rather than passively consuming tutorials.

Josh and Kent discuss:

The importance of curiosity in learning and how small observations can spark deeper exploration.
Why focusing on what you want to build rather than what you want to learn leads to better retention.
The challenges of transitioning from acting and comedy to tech, and how performance skills translate into developer advocacy.
The power of in-person conferences in forging deeper relationships and improving professional growth.

Josh also shares his love for Svelte, cameras, music, and Broadway musicals—so be sure to find him at Epic Web Conf to geek out on any of those topics!

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Guest: Josh Cirre

𝕏: @joshcirre
YouTube: Josh Cirre
Website: joshcirre.com

Host: Kent C. Dodds

Website: kentcdodds.com
𝕏: @kentcdodds
GitHub: @kentcdodds
YouTube: Kent C. Dodds
Epic Web: epicweb.dev

Demystifying AI: Building an AI Assistant for Better Presentations with Kira Corbett Feb 05, 2025

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In this episode, Kent is joined by Kira Corbett, an AI-focused developer educator with deep experience in robotics, simulation, and human-computer interaction. Kira discusses her background in building real-world systems and how her transition to web development has shaped her approach to optimizing user experiences.

Her talk at Epic WebConf, "Building an AI Assistant to Deliver Your Best Presentations," explores how AI can enhance communication skills, streamline productivity, and create better engagement in various fields—not just software engineering. Without spoiling too much, Kira hints at an interactive experience that will challenge the audience’s expectations about AI-powered tools.

They also discuss the benefits of conferences, from gaining fresh insights to making meaningful professional and personal connections. As an avid mountain biker and skier, Kira is also excited to hit the slopes at the unofficial Epic WebConf ski day.

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Guest: Kira Corbett

Host: Kent C. Dodds

Website: kentcdodds.com
𝕏: @kentcdodds
GitHub: @kentcdodds
YouTube: Kent C. Dodds
Epic Web: epicweb.dev

Building Connections and Community at Epic WebConf with Taylor Desseyn Feb 04, 2025

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Taylor Desseyn, VP of Global Development at Torque.dev and host of the Guidance Counselor 2.0 podcast, joins Kent to discuss his role as an emcee at Epic WebConf and the importance of networking in tech. Taylor shares insights on how developers can maximize their time at conferences, from preparing in advance to actively building meaningful connections.

Taylor emphasizes the value of in-person events, explaining how they provide an opportunity to deepen online relationships, connect with industry leaders, and open doors to new career opportunities. He also shares practical career advice, including how to effectively network, follow up after events, and leverage platforms like LinkedIn to build professional relationships.

Kent and Taylor also discuss the role of an emcee in setting the tone for a conference, the importance of humor and energy in engaging an audience, and Taylor’s excitement to bring his hosting experience to Salt Lake City for Epic WebConf.

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Guest: Taylor Desseyn

LinkedIn: Taylor Desseyn
𝕏: @tdesseyn
Bluesky: @tdesseyn

Host: Kent C. Dodds

Website: kentcdodds.com
𝕏: @kentcdodds
GitHub: @kentcdodds
YouTube: Kent C. Dodds
Epic Web: epicweb.dev

Beyond Code Assist: Driving Impact as a Next-Gen Developer with Mark Techson Feb 03, 2025

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Mark Techson, a developer advocate at Google working on Angular, joins Kent to discuss the intersection of AI and developer productivity. His Epic WebConf talk, "Beyond Code Assist: Driving Impact as a Next-Gen Developer," explores how developers can go beyond using AI for simple code assistance and instead integrate AI into their workflows to accomplish more.

Mark emphasizes that the world of software development is evolving, and AI tools are becoming integral to the way we work. He shares insights on how developers can position themselves to thrive, avoid stagnation, and embrace the opportunities AI provides.

Kent and Mark also discuss the importance of standing out in an increasingly automated world, the power of adding a personal touch (like Mark’s unique video talk proposal), and why in-person conferences like Epic WebConf provide irreplaceable professional connections.

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Guest: Mark Techson

𝕏: @marktechson
YouTube: Mark Techson

Host: Kent C. Dodds

Website: kentcdodds.com
𝕏: @kentcdodds
GitHub: @kentcdodds
YouTube: Kent C. Dodds
Epic Web: epicweb.dev

Building Accessible Web Apps with Shruti Kapoor Feb 02, 2025

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Shruti Kapoor, a frontend engineer at Slack and an Epic Web instructor, joins Kent to dive into the intricacies of accessibility in web development. With over a decade of experience, Shruti has dedicated herself to educating developers on building accessible and inclusive applications.

Her Epic WebConf talk, "Building Accessible Web Apps," will focus on real-world accessibility challenges, showcasing a live demo where she transforms a web app to improve usability for all users. She emphasizes how accessibility is more than just ARIA labels—it requires a thoughtful UX approach, including proper focus management, screen reader behavior, and inclusive interaction patterns.

Kent and Shruti also discuss her experience traveling globally for conferences, how different regions approach web development, and why she prioritizes in-person events like Epic WebConf. They wrap up by exploring imposter syndrome, mentorship, and how developers can take their first steps into public speaking.

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Guest: Shruti Kapoor

Host: Kent C. Dodds

Website: kentcdodds.com
𝕏: @kentcdodds
GitHub: @kentcdodds
YouTube: Kent C. Dodds
Epic Web: epicweb.dev

Building Bulletproof Design Systems with Eva Ferreira Feb 01, 2025

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Eva Ferreira, a frontend engineer, educator, and design systems expert, shares insights into what makes or breaks a design system. As a tech lead at Mable and a long-time web development instructor, Eva brings years of experience building UI components, optimizing accessibility, and implementing robust frontend architectures.

Her talk at Epic WebConf, "Bulletproof Design Systems," dives into the biggest challenges teams face when adopting a design system. She covers topics like onboarding new users, proving the system’s value with measurable success metrics, and avoiding the trap of a single maintainer. Attendees will leave with actionable strategies to make their design systems more sustainable and widely adopted.

Kent and Eva also discuss the importance of sharing failures as well as successes in tech, the struggle of maintaining focus while learning online, and why in-person conferences provide an unmatched experience for both education and networking.

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Meet Eva at Epic Web Conf.

Guest: Eva Ferreira

𝕏: @evaferreira92
LinkedIn: Maria Evangelina Ferreira

Host: Kent C. Dodds

Website: kentcdodds.com
𝕏: @kentcdodds
GitHub: @kentcdodds
YouTube: Kent C. Dodds
Epic Web: epicweb.dev

Building AI-Powered Presentations with Eve Porcello Jan 31, 2025

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Eve Porcello, an experienced educator and speaker, shares her insights on AI-powered presentation tools and communication skills for developers. With years of experience teaching JavaScript, React, and GraphQL, Eve now focuses on how AI can assist in learning, teaching, and public speaking.

Her Epic WebConf talk, co-presented with Kira Corbett, explores the development of an AI assistant to enhance presentation delivery. They’ll showcase AI-powered tools like ml5 for voice recognition and interactive elements that can make presentations more engaging and accessible.

Kent and Eve also discuss the evolving role of AI in web development, the importance of strong communication skills for engineers, and why in-person conferences provide an unmatched experience. Plus, they talk about skiing in Utah and the unofficial ski day after Epic WebConf!

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Guest: Eve Porcello

𝕏: @eveporcello
Website: moonhighway.com
GitHub: @eveporcello

Host: Kent C. Dodds

Website: kentcdodds.com
𝕏: @kentcdodds
GitHub: @kentcdodds
YouTube: Kent C. Dodds
Epic Web: epicweb.dev

Demystifying Type Inference with Jared Forsyth Jan 30, 2025

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Jared Forsyth, a front-end infrastructure engineer at Khan Academy, shares insights into type inference and programming language design. With nearly a decade of experience working with React and React Native, Jared has a deep appreciation for tooling and developer experience. His Epic WebConf talk, "Hindley and Milner Walk Into a Bar," will break down type inference algorithms and how they improve developer ergonomics by reducing the need for excessive type annotations.

Jared and Kent discuss the practical benefits of understanding language internals, including how it can improve debugging, enhance problem-solving skills, and make learning new languages easier. They also talk about Jared’s passion for local-first web development, functional programming, and how in-person conferences help build lasting relationships.

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Guest: Jared Forsyth

Host: Kent C. Dodds

Website: kentcdodds.com
𝕏: @kentcdodds
GitHub: @kentcdodds
YouTube: Kent C. Dodds
Epic Web: epicweb.dev

Learn Out Loud in 2025 with Madison Kanna Jan 29, 2025

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Madison Kanna, a full-stack developer and community builder, shares her insights on the importance of learning out loud and building an authentic personal brand. In her Epic WebConf talk, “Why You Should Learn Out Loud in 2025,” Madison emphasizes the growing need to differentiate yourself in an AI-driven world by sharing your work and building genuine connections.

She discusses her experiences as a full-stack developer using TypeScript and Python, as well as her journey running coding communities and fostering accountability. Madison highlights how meeting people at conferences has transformed her online relationships into real friendships and career opportunities.

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