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    Changing the Conversation

    Welcome to Changing the Conversation! We discuss critical and timely topics focused on equity, homelessness, substance use, mental health, and trauma. Our hosts interview health and human service experts, researchers, and advocates. Conversations explore how we can adapt our systems to the rapidly changing landscape of social services.

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    Next Generation Recovery Leaders: John Dellick Oct 06, 2025
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    "In many ways, I saw myself as a bridge translating the lived experiences into something that could influence practice and policy...the story sharing brings the numbers to life. It gives emotion to all the data, context and it gives everybody a face. It's not just statistics, it's people's lives that we're talking about, and I feel like often that gets lost." John Dellick and host Rowan Willis-Gorman share what it is like to find the path from youth advocate to advocate for youth. This episode is part of a series featuring youth peer workers and recovery innovators discussing how to improve and uplift behavioral health systems for youth.

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    Learn More Hear more from John Dellick Rowan Willis-Gorman The Resiliency Network Youth Move National On Our Own of Maryland Ohio: Become a Certified Youth Peer Supporter

    Youth Wellness Coaches at C4 Innovations

    Project Amp: leveraging the unique power of near-age youth peer mentors to implement a youth-focused, strengths-based, and non-punitive prevention and early intervention

    Youth Peer Support (podcast episode)

    Youth-Centered Harm Reduction (podcast episode)

    Restorative Practices in Schools (podcast episode)

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    Next Generation Recovery Leaders: Natalia Muñoz & Ash Wheeler Sep 22, 2025
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    "I think now is as great a time as ever to start this work. I think now is when more and more dangerous legislation is becoming part of our everyday, and I think that anything and everything that we can do as individuals to help offset that and empower future generations, I think it's my duty and my responsibility to do that." Natalia Muñoz and Ash Wheeler share insights about youth peer support and mentorship with host Rowan Willis-Gorman. This episode is part of a series featuring youth peer workers and recovery innovators discussing how to improve and uplift behavioral health systems for youth. Mentorship is ingrained in most peer spaces, but is uniquely important in youth and near-age peer support, existing in the relationships between youth peer workers and the youth they serve and between youth peer workers as they develop their careers and hone their practice.

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    Natalia Muñoz

    Ash Wheeler

    Rowan Willis-Gorman

    Youth Wellness Coaches at C4 Innovations

    Project Amp: leveraging the unique power of near-age youth peer mentors to implement a youth-focused, strengths-based, and non-punitive prevention and early intervention

    Youth Peer Support (podcast episode)

    Youth-Centered Harm Reduction (podcast episode)

    Restorative Practices in Schools (podcast episode)

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    Learning from Recovery Elders: Bill Stauffer Sep 08, 2025
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    Bill Stauffer shares insights on recovery movement history and how current leaders can come together with host Livia Davis. This episode is part of a series where we share the wisdom amassed by recovery leaders over the past 5 decades and reflect on the journeys that have laid groundwork for today's recovery movement.

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    Bill Stauffer: bio, Wanderings: a recovery blog

    PA Recovery Organizations Alliance (PRO.A)

    The Arc of Recovery Movement History Ultimately Bends Towards Expansion by William Stauffer & Dr. David Best

    William White Papers from Lighthouse Institute at Chestnut Health Systems

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    Thank you for listening to this important conversation honoring the history and voices of the recovery movement. Check out more episodes in the "Learning from Recovery Elders" series!


    Learning from Recovery Elders: Harvey Rosenthal Aug 25, 2025
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    Harvey Rosenthal shares his perspectives about the rights of people in mental health recovery and the power of peer support with host Livia Davis. This episode is part of a series where we share the wisdom amassed by recovery leaders over the past 5 decades and reflect on the journeys that have laid groundwork for today's recovery movement.

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    Learn More Harvey RosenthalAlliance for Rights and Recovery In Honor and Memory of Ed Knight by Harvey Rosenthal Access a transcript of Learning from Recovery Elders: Harvey Rosenthal Thank you for listening to this important conversation honoring the history and voices of the recovery movement. Check out more episodes in the "Learning from Recovery Elders" series!

    Learning from Recovery Elders: Lonnetta Albright Aug 11, 2025
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    Lonnetta Albright shares insights about the recovery movement and peer support with host Livia Davis. This episode is second in a series where we share the wisdom amassed by recovery leaders over the past 5 decades and reflect on the journeys that have laid groundwork for today's recovery movement. Join us for future episodes!

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    Lonnetta Albright, Forward Movement Inc.

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    Learning From Recovery Elders: Mark Jenkins Jul 28, 2025
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    Mark Jenkins shares his insights and experiences providing harm reduction services in Connecticut with host Livia Davis. This episode is first in a series where we share the wisdom amassed by recovery leaders over the past 5 decades and reflect on the journeys that have laid groundwork for today's recovery movement. Join us for future episodes!

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    Connecticut Harm Reduction Alliance

    Learn more about Mark Jenkins and his work Chicago Recovery Alliance

    Principles of Harm Reduction from the National Harm Reduction Coalition

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    Thank you for listening to this important conversation honoring the history and voices of the recovery movement. Stay tuned for more episodes in the "Learning from Recovery Elders" series!


    Empowering Black Men in Leadership Part 2 Jul 14, 2025
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    Keon Lewis and host Dwayne Watkins continue to discuss empowering Black men to be strong leaders while being mindful of challenges and strengthening mental health.

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    The Invisible Ache by Courtney B. Vance & Dr. Robin L. Smith

    Developing Executive Leaders in Public Health from ASTHO and the Satcher Health Leadership Institute (SHLI) at Morehouse School of Medicine

    Stories written by Keon Lewis for American Foundation for Suicide Prevention

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    Empowering Black Men in Leadership Part 1 Jun 30, 2025
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    Keon Lewis and host Dwayne Watkins discuss empowering Black men to be strong leaders while being mindful of challenges and strengthening mental health.

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    Stories written by Keon Lewis for American Foundation for Suicide Prevention

    The Invisible Ache

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    Navigating Wellness with Joy & Purpose Jun 02, 2025
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    Roni Hodges and host Ashley Stewart discuss non-negotiable strategies for navigating wellness with joy and purpose in 2025 and beyond.

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    Motivational Interviewing 27: Gilan Merwanji Feb 17, 2025
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    Gilan Merwanji shares how Motivational Interviewing supports holistic defense services for clients involved in the criminal justice system with host Ali Hall.

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    Gilan Merwanji: Harris County Office of Managed Assigned Counsel

    Ali Hall: website, MINT profile

    Motivational Interviewing: Facilitating Change: online course with Ali Hall and Ken Kraybill starts March 28

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    Motivational Interviewing: training opportunities and resources from C4 Innovations

    Motivational Interviewing: resources from the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT)

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