Cate & Ty Break It Down

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Family Preservation & Systemic Reform with Renee Gellin of Saving Our Sisters (SOS) Oct 07, 2026

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In Part 2 of conversation, Renee and Tyler pivot toward solutions, systemic accountability, and what Saving Our Sisters (SOS) really does. Renee details how temporary crises like housing affordability and broken support networks push women toward adoption—and how providing just a few weeks of rent, basic supplies, or simple encouragement can preserve families. They also discuss human rights issues in adoption; such as sealed birth certificates, lack of informed consent, and the absence of legal copies of signed paperwork.

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Deconstructing Birth Parent Stereotypes with Renee Gellin, founder of Saving Our Sisters (SOS) Sep 30, 2026

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In Part 1 of today's interview, Tyler sits down with Renee Gellin, founder of Saving Our Sisters (SOS), to explore her personal experience with infant relinquishment and the systemic issues within private adoption. Renee recounts the "perfect storm" of temporary crises that led her to relinquish her son in 2011. Tyler and Renee unpack common industry misconceptions, breakdown the psychological impact on existing siblings, the history of open adoption as an industry survival strategy, and how unfulfilled open adoption promises create lasting trauma for birth families.

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All You Have Is Love: a documentary with Lisa Elaine Scott Sep 23, 2026

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Tyler and Cate return for Part 2 with filmmaker, and adoptee, Lisa Elaine Scott to discuss her upcoming documentary, All You Have Is Love. For more info on the film and to subscribe to the newsletter, please visit https://allyouhaveislove.com

For all inquiries about the film, you can reach Lisa directly at lisa@seechangela.com, and follow @allyouhaveislovefilm for updates.

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Exposing the Infant Adoption Industry: An Exposé with Lisa Elaine Scott Sep 16, 2026

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In today's episode, Tyler and Cate sit down with filmmaker and adoptee Lisa Elaine Scott to discuss her upcoming documentary, All You Have Is Love. Drawing from her experience as a Baby Scoop era adoptee, Lisa exposes the hidden realities of the multi-billion dollar infant adoption industry and examines how open adoption is often used as a marketing tool. Together, they offer an unique look at the different complexities of open adoption, the struggles and quiet grief of birth parents, and the urgent need for transparency to help prevent unnecessary infant adoptions.

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The Legal Realities of Adoption feat. Elle and Bri Sep 09, 2026

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This is the FINAL PART of a three-part discussion!

Cate and Tyler finish their conversation with Elle and Bri talking about the importance of having original birth certificates, education on guardianship & kinship, and the framework to differentiate between healthy boundaries and demands. Also, comments about the modern adoption industry being predatory and profit-driven, and that it ultimately takes advantage of and serves as a disservice to all involved: birth parents, adoptive parents, and the adoptees themselves.

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The Unredacted Truth, Self-Gaslighting & Why Adoption Isn’t Always Necessary feat. Bri and Elle Sep 02, 2026

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Cate and Tyler are back with Bri and Elle to continue PART 2! The group continue discussing the misunderstandings the audience has had with Cate & Ty's story, the infamous text messages, and more about Bri's experience with religious aspects of adoption. They break down the different options available when it comes to placing a child in a safe environment.

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Maternal Health Crisis: Lindsay Clancy feat. Alé Cardinalle Aug 26, 2026

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Join Ty and Alé (@wildheartcollective) as they go through the complex realities of maternal mental health, using the high-profile Lindsay Clancy case. Sharing her own journey through a psychiatric emergency, Alé sheds light on the invisible struggles of severe depression and dissociation, while highlighting why the current mental health and crisis support systems continue to fail vulnerable mothers. Together with Tyler, they examine the critical importance of proactive care, systemic accountability, and hyper-vigilance in supporting those battling postpartum crises.

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Elle & Bri Unite to Deconstruct the Adoption Industry Aug 19, 2026

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Cate and Tyler sit down with marriage and family therapist, and fellow adoptee, Bri to pull back the curtain on the American adoption industry. Moving past standard narratives, they openly discuss the grief and systemic flaws of the birth-parent journey, and how "open adoption" can be leveraged as a coercive tool. From deconstructing hospital postpartum pressure to exploring child-centric alternatives like kinship care and legal guardianship, this conversation is an urgent look at institutional accountability and the true impact of adoption.

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Kicked Out of the Congregation: Rebuilding Spirituality with Desirée Aug 12, 2026

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In this episode of Cate and Ty, Tyler sits down with Desiree (@mojaveandwolf) to explore the messy, beautiful landscape of religious deconstruction. After being abruptly cast out of her church community, Desiree shares how she rebuilt a solid, unshakeable spiritual foundation from the ground up. From uncovering the lost gospels to understanding the power of collective consciousness, this conversation serves as a gateway to anyone wanting to follow their curiosity outside of the traditional box.

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Dr. Kristin Kirkland: When Adoption and Human Trafficking Intersect Aug 05, 2026

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In this episode, Tyler sits down with Dr. Kristen Kirkland for a multi-layered conversation about the complexities of the adoption industry. Drawing from her professional background in public health and her personal experience as a private infant adoptee, Dr. Kirkland shares her journey of coming out of the adoption "FOG" (Fear, Obligation, and Guilt) and recognizing the parallels between private infant adoption in America and the legal definitions of human trafficking.

Dr. Kirkland also discusses briefly the goal of her book Orphan Sunday is the Worst (slated for Spring 2028), which examines how evangelical Christian theology has historically cherry-picked scriptures to glamorize adoption.

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