CaSE: Conversations about Software Engineering

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Technology Governance with Sarah Wells Jun 15, 2026

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Sarah Wells spent years as Technical Director at the Financial Times, wrangling thousands of microservices and the technology decisions that come with them. In this conversation she shares how the FT kept things from spiralling out of control without turning into a bureaucracy. We talk AI tools and shadow IT, why "best tool for the job" can quietly become your worst nightmare, and how a simple two-page document can save you from months of regret.

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-00:00:00 Introduction & The AI Tool Flood -00:04:37 Shadow IT & AI Governance in Day-to-Day Development -00:07:54 Technology Strategy – Build vs. Buy & Wardley Mapping -00:11:53 Trying New Technologies – Structured, Not Chaotic -00:16:04 "Best Tool for the Job" – A Dangerous Mantra -00:21:57 The Tech Governance Group (TGG) -00:30:33 The Technology Radar & The System Catalog -00:36:33 Technology Migration & Managing Legacy -00:43:04 The CTO's Role in Technology Decisions

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Enabling Microservice Success

Agent Harness, State of Play, Risk and AI Company Culture Mar 17, 2026

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Insights from the ThoughtWorks Utah Retreat

Birgitta, Heinrich and Sven look back at the latest developments in AI-assisted development, tools and practices which emerged in 2025 and work for teams. Furthermore they discuss a few topics like "where does the rigor go in AI assistance" from the future of software development retreat in Utah

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-00:00:00 Intro & Welcome

-00:03:35 The State of AI-Assisted Coding in 2026: Agents, Subagents, …

-00:09:00 Context Engineering: The Real Lever

-00:19:00 Swarms and Agent Teams

-00:28:04 Platform Teams & Organizational Enablement

-00:34:15 Harness Engineering, Rigor & Quality

-00:49:49 Risk Thinking, Small Batches & Feedback Loops

-00:59:58 Cognitive Load & The “AI Vampire”

-01:10:34 AI for Migration & Modernization

-01:17:13 Culture Wars: Enthusiasts vs. Skeptics

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Guiding, not ruling: Architecture Governance Approaches Feb 02, 2026

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Overview on Paved Road, Advice Process, Architecture Principles and Technology Radar

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-000:00:00 Introduction: Governance and Autonomy

-000:01:56 Golden Path / Paved Road Explained

-000:30:49 Architecture Advice Process

-000:46:53 Architecture Principles & Macro Architecture

-000:57:18 Technology Radar

-001:05:27 AI and the Future of Governance

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Andrew Harmel-Law on Better Architecture Decision Making for Everyone Jan 13, 2026

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-00:00:02 Intro & Welcome

-00:03:04 What is software architecture?

-00:07:27 Architecture advice process

-00:10:41 Learning & unlearning in architecture

-00:14:36 Advice process in detail

-00:24:00 Architecture Decision Records (ADRs)

-00:35:25 Scaling architecture & organization

-00:56:49 Architecture Advice Forums

-01:06:26 AI & Architecture Work

-01:11:58 Naming, Power & Psychological Safety

-01:17:54 Writing, Editing & Book Creation

-01:20:07 Conclusion & Farewell

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Data Marketplace, Data Products and Data Contracts Sep 22, 2025

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API Specification for Data

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-00:00:00 Introduction and Simon’s Background -00:02:00 From Software Engineering to Data Thinking -00:06:45 Discovering Data Mesh and Decentralization -00:12:30 What Are Data Contracts? -00:22:00 Anatomy of a Data Contract -00:36:00 Governance Meets Domain-Driven Design -00:42:00 Versioning and Lifecycle Management -00:45:00 Contract Validation and Consumer Expectations -00:57:00 What Is a Data Product? -01:04:00 Building a Marketplace – Data Contracts Manager -01:08:30 Looking Forward – Standards and Intelligent Discovery

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Data Architecture with Christoph Windheuser Jul 02, 2025

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-00:00:00 Intro -00:05:45 Data Warehouse -00:16:45 Data Lake -00:21:23 Data Lake House -00:29:45 Data Quality -00:37:15 Data Catalog -00:39:35 Data Lineage -00:54:00 Data Mesh -01:06:00 Providing data for AI use cases -01:13:36 Choose the right data architecture -01:19:55 Streaming -01:24:26 Learning -01:26:30 Reversible decisions -01:29:20 Emerging trends to look at -01:31:30 Data governance -01:40:50 DuckDB -01:46:52 Closing words

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Mirko Novakovic on Waves of Innovation and Observability Product Management Jun 05, 2025

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In this episode of the CaSE Podcast, Mirko Novakovic, a seasoned entrepreneur and investor, shares his journey through the waves of technological innovation—from the early days of online banking to the rise of AI and open telemetry. We explore with him how the lessons learned in diverse industries, including the food business, can reshape our approach to software development and architecture, emphasizing the importance of curiosity, adaptability, and a solid grasp of the fundamentals.

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-00:00:11 Introduction -00:01:35 Learning from Olive Oil farming and restaurant businesses -00:09:20 Waves of technological innovations? -00:16:19* Fundamentals vs. Trends in Software Engineering -00:21:08 Minimum knowledge of performance analysis today -00:26:49 Honouring the works of Brendan Gregg -00:30:17 Importance of features like profiling -00:39:45 You only change if you feel the pain -00:47:58 Overestimating the need for speed of change -00:51:25 Explaining benefits of Open Telemetry to customers -01:00:09 The Rift Framework and Data Usability -01:21:37 Product Management and User-Centric Design -01:38:11 Entrepreneurship -01:44:39 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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Architecture Sensitivity Points; Interactions with AI Assistance Apr 08, 2025

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In this episode of the CaSE Podcast, Sven Johann, Alex Heusingfeld, and Heinrich Hartmann dive into the concept of sensitivity points in software architecture, using the recent Volkswagen data leak as a striking example. They explore how seemingly minor architectural decisions and code changes can carry massive implications when balancing trade-offs like data privacy versus functionality. The trio also discusses the growing impact of AI-assisted development, reflecting on practical experiences with tools like ChatGPT, Cursor, and GitHub Copilot.

Birgitta Böckerler, AI Assistance beyond coding Cursor IDE Loveable Massive data breach at VW Sensitivity and Trade-Off Points in Software Architecture, chapter 7.2. Peter Naur, Programming as Theory Building

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00:00:00 Intro
00:01:57 VW data breach example
00:05:45 What is a sensitivity point (SP)?
00:13:10 SP: How serious are we with security requirements
00:17:05 SP: Different stakeholder needs
00:20:33 SP: The problem of getting stakeholders together
00:25:46 SP: Applying this concept to data lineage?
00:32:30 SP: Protecting critical lines of code
00:36:38 SP: Engineering critical code protection
00:41:57 AI assistance: it helps, if your are an expert
00:45:32 AI: Being successful with a clear mental model and iterations
00:54:33 AI: Larger code bases
01:01:10 AI: Devil’s advocate and inspiration on design
01:09:30 AI: Talking to the LLM for coding and writing
01:15:35 AI: Non technical people creating code
01:27:50 AI: Wrapping up

Ole Lensmar - From Swagger to TestCube: Evolving Testing Practices in the Kubernetes Era Mar 17, 2025

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How do you ensure the reliability of your cloud-native applications in an ever-evolving landscape? In this episode of CaSE, we dive deep into the intricate world of cloud-native testing with Ole Lensmar, the mind behind SoapUI, serial entrepreneur and Founder of TestKube. Join us as we explore the challenges of testing in Kubernetes environments, the balance between automation and manual testing, and the evolving role of AI in shaping our testing strategies.

TestKube – Test execution at scale for CI/CD KubeShop -- An Accelerator for Open Source Startups Swagger – API design, documentation, and testing SoapUI – Testing tool for SOAP and REST APIs Postman – API development and testing platform JUnit – Unit testing framework for Java k6 – Load testing for developers

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00:00:00 The Intersection of Software Engineering and Butchery
00:09:03 Introduction to Cloud-Native Testing
00:09:03 The Role of AI in Testing
00:15:44 API Testing Tools: SoapUI and Swagger
00:28:47 Cloud-Native Testing Strategies
00:45:37 Continuous Testing and Monitoring
00:54:43 The Future of Testing Tools and Practices
01:26:17 Building and Sustaining Open-Source Communities

Theo Schlossnagle on Meat, Machines, and Mastery in Software Engineering Feb 25, 2025

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Theo Schlossnagle is a world-class software engineer, serial entrepreneur and owner of a butcher shop. In the podcast he unpacks the mindset, practices, and strategies that have shaped his approach to software development. From the power of curiosity to the challenges of debugging distributed systems, we explore what it takes to build resilient, maintainable software in an ever-evolving landscape.

Along the way, we dive into automation of butchery equipment, the pitfalls of legacy systems, and the delicate balance between abstraction and simplicity. Whether you're scaling architectures, optimizing code, or integrating outdated APIs, this conversation is packed with insights to sharpen your engineering craft.

Tune in to explore what makes great software—and great engineers—stand out.

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00:00:00 The Intersection of Software Engineering and Butchery
00:07:42 Automation and Consistency in Butchery Operations
00:26:36 The Role of Curiosity in Software Development
00:47:40 Debugging and Troubleshooting Techniques
01:16:13 The Challenges of Distributed Systems
01:39:27 Future Directions in Software and IoT

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