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CASAA-08 - 08 - 17 Aug 10, 2017

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:44 NYC counsil on health. 1:31 Convienence store owners were there in fill force. They feel unfairly targeted by the ordinaince meant to reduce the number of tobacco retailer licences. 2:21 Tobacco retailers who chose to sell e cigarettes will have to obtain a seperate license. 2:44 This hurts the dedicated e cigarette retail establishments. 3:29 Council member Peter Koo has been vocal about opposition of these bills.He and some other members are opposed because of legitimate concerns about the ever expanding black market. 5:48 Spike Babain raised the point that the FDA has recently aknowledged issue of THR and differing regulatiory process. 7:24 Two bills addressing the licensing caps on tobacco and e cigarette retailers. 9:20 Having your buisness devalued hurts far more than the original bills intend to. Sadly there is still a cap so there will be no new vape shops. 10:30 Unclear about when this goes to the full counsil (The answer to that is today) 11:50 Amending the bills language is very hard when stakeholders are turned away and denied meetings with the bills sponsors it is hard to participate in the legislative process. 14:00 Efforts to contact a lawmaker "We can't talk to those people" in refrence to industory stakeholders. 16:30 Are regular stakeholders ie the consumer also being turned away? 17:77 In Ny state legislature the testimony against a bill is something that is up to the discression of the bills sponsor. 19:19 These are the deep,deep cracks that the all tobacco is bad narritive are exposing in our legislators and the legislative process. If you ever needed proof of broken government this is it. 21:00 Everybody happy about the FDA's comments on THR last week? 21:09 Well don't be because this is what we see this week https://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm570501.htm?utm_source=CTPPartnerTwitter&utm_medium=social&utm_term=gov&utm_content=pressrelease&utm_campaign=ctp-trc-ends The real cost campaign 24:36 On the dangers of the misappropriation of the language of Anti-Smoking activists. 26:16 Words matter. https://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm568923.htm 32:51 SAMMEC http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/flu-deaths-reality-check-1.1127442 35:51 Dog whistle words meant to appease. 42:42 The idea that nicotine alone is responsible for harm in it's use when it is in essence part of a whole. 44:11 Taking two steps foward and two steps back. 44:56 Why the vapor shop is so important. 47:00 More on concerns regarding the FDA's Real Cost Campagin.

CASAA-03 - 08 - 17 Aug 05, 2017

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:33 FDA commissioner Gotlieb made an announcement regarding tobacco and nicotine regulation. 1:20 Proposed new deadline for submission of newly deemed tobacco products. A more than 4 year entension. 2:02 Revisiting the PMTA and MRTP process. 2:30 The application and approval process as it stands is really not clear to anyone. 4:00 This extension is not going to affect any other rules as written. (IE warning labels and ingredient listings,those are as is origanllly written) 4:24 This is all proposed and rules will need to be promulgated. 4:44 A rule regarding products standard for e liquid this includes the agency looking at flavors. 5:21 This is interesting as we should have a discussion about the role flavors play in allowing smokers to switch to a low risk tobacco product. 5:25 It's nice to see someone at FDA willing to onvestigate the issue and not weighed down by decades of ideology. 6:04 The other anticipated rules or gudance we believe will include battery safety. 6:39 Very low nicotine cigarettes. http://reason.com/blog/2017/08/02/a-cap-on-nicotine-in-cigarettes-would-be 7:33 Merit denicotined cigarette https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2726800/ 9:00 This proposal has been around for awhile,most recently it got a shot in the arm by NIH giving 100 million for studying the issue. It raises all sorts of ethical questions about the efficacy of doing this as we discovered with low tar and light cigarettes smokers inhaled the smoke deepr into the lung causing issues in the deeper lung tissues. 10:00 The press has run with the idea that the FDA will lower the nicotine content but the idea that harm reduction needs the heavy hand of regulation instead of truthful information is troubling. 12:48 There is nothing to stop the FDA from also mandating the nicotine content in smokeless tobacco and in vapor products as well. http://casaa.org/news/fdas-new-approach-to-nicotine-regulation-whats-in-and-whats-out/ 17:00 Any sort of FDA or legislative relief could cause opponents to fire back harder than ever. 17:28 This could lead to states and municipalities pushing regulations much harder as they think the Federal Government has dropped the ball. 17:40 Dr Jerome Adams confirmation hearing. https://www.help.senate.gov/hearings/nomination-hearing5 18:18 Extending PMTA rules is just one facet of the regulation process. The government still has all of the same regulatory powers as before and none of the other regulations have changed. 19:47 https://patch.com/new-york/whiteplains/e-cig-dangers-discussed-roundtable 25:25 New Jersey Tobacco 21,Maine Tobacco 21,Expecting Oregon to approve Tobacco 21 any day now. 27:42 Heath http://www.recorder.com/With-no-stores-Heath-eyes-tobacco-sales-regs-11546318 29:19 Banning menthol 31:10 On Australia 37:07 Hearing personal sucess stories and the effect on lawmakers. 37:47 You may not see it but our members and people who have participated in things like the Njoy citizens petition and the Calls to action to contact legislators are swaying hearts and minds. 39:58 CASAA has worked for years to ensire the consumers view is represented not just with legislators but wiith trade groups and the like.

CASAA 21 - 07 - 17 Jul 23, 2017

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:54 Nicopure Right to be Smokefree lawsuit update. Judge has ruled in favor of the FDA. 2:24 Next steps in the hands of the legal professionals. 3:11 This outcome was not unexpected but this is why we are using multiple strategies on many fronts. 4:16 CEI VS DOT regulation preventing vaping on airplanes.We were co-plantiffs with the CEI on this lawsuit attempting to address regulatory overreach. The court ruled in favor of the DOT. All of the documentation is at this link and you can even hear some of the oral arguments in this case --> here https://cei.org/litigation/cei-v-dot 7:27 This ruling by the court validates that vaping and smoking are the same. This also takes the power away from the airlines to allow them to adapt and perhaps someday choose to offer the ability to vape to passengers if they so choose to. 12:47 Because this comes from DOT it also stops private planes from allowing people to vape on those flights. 14:37 Govenor Chris Christie from New Jersey signed a tobacco 21 bill into law. This was something that seemed to come from out of left field. 19:02 What makes this shocking to someone living in New Jersey is that Chris Christie has done so well with attempting to remove some shame and stigma from people who might need to seek help for drug rehabilitation. His and the state's willful ignorance of harm reduction for smokers is espically shocking and painful since he had done so much good work on harm reduction in the past. 22:10 The need to make a distinction between antismoking activists and real public health professionals. 22:30 Harm reduction deniers. 24:21 Isolation as a tool to seperate smokers and vapers from society at large. 27:08 This is the third state to pass statewide Tobacco 21 legislation. Hawaii California and now New Jersey have passed these laws. 27:40 Mionnesota seems to be rolling right along with the same program. 28:14 Deleware 5 cents per ml tax passed. On paper this looks like a loss,but this is not as bad as it really could have been. 29:47 VTA confrence update. 33:31 Ohio VTA members doing an amazing job. 35:08 Hill Day. A bit on speaking with your legislators at home and in D.C.

CASAA 16 - 07 - 17 Jul 17, 2017

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:29 Comment on FDA proposed rule for smokeless tobacco products. :39: 7,683 comments posted to docket. 1:01 Link to CASAA's comment.http://casaa.org/news/casaa-submits-comment-on-fdas-smokeless-tobacco-standards-rule/ 1:11 Noteable comments:Clyde Bates and David Swenor,Carl Phillips,Bryan Fotik,Bill Godshall and Greg Connelly from the AVA. 2:20 How to find :search FDA-2016-N-2527 2:40 Lots of comments on the way the rule was released and that they did not follow the correct proceedure for it. 3:49 A bit of history and speculation on who works for the Center for Tobacco Products and the history of it. 7:29 A little on how the tobacco control act is making it harder for the tobacco comapnies to develop,distribute and create low risk tobacco products. 9:05 Recommended :the search for a safer cigarette from Nova. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/cigarette/ 12:10 A bit on activism and how it could affect the outcomes of these battles. 12:46 On Thursday CASAA helped with a research project that didin't need a huge response but with minial effort in a few hours this study had more resondents than was needed. 14:00 Preparing for trip to DC VTA's annual confrence in DC. 14:40 It feels strange to say the community is engaged but when it comes to a city counsil hearing the participation is very low. 15:16 There is a time of day problem and a notice problem and a transparency problem. 17:37 Indivisible site is a great site for how to get involved at the local level.https://www.indivisibleguide.com/ Make sure you're registered to vote. https://www.vote.org/register-to-vote/?gclid=Cj0KEQjwwLHLBRDEq9DQxK2I_p8BEiQA3UDVDie6alrT12WG7gO0JPk-1cF6_TvtiFwae3fbTSO0duoaAg8C8P8HAQ (Recommended TED talk The Antidote to Apathy https://www.ted.com/talks/dave_meslin_the_antidote_to_apathy) 18:05 Pennsylvania an extra push to get Senate bill 508 moving to a hearing.Rumor has it that Pennsylvania may have adjusted their tax projections up.(Sadly it seems like they haven't learned from Philadelphia's example.)But the offical record only shows 5 cents per ml. http://casaa.org/call-to-action/pa-take-action-to-fix-the-vapor-tax/ 25:39 Oddly good public health people consider any tax on smokless tobacco product is a regressive tax on the poor. 27:47 San Francisco effort to repeal the flavor ban.Residents of San Francisco needs to gather 19,000 signatures and once they are gathered this bill stops dead. Then the flavor ban needs to be added to the next mayoral election. CASAA is a non financial reporter of this initative. http://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/Group-seeks-referendum-on-flavored-tobacco-ban-in-11284771.php 36:32 Minnesota tobacco 21 flare up. Meeeting in St Louis park today for flavor ban and tobacco 21. This is a city council meetingn the consent agenda. 38:34 Our hats off to Skip Murray and Jenny Ho for all their efforts to head to these meetings and organize people there. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RllZU0LAEsIOaNZIPQ8QZQDeP3iY5fjohawDpEs6Hls/edit#gid=0 39:47 Looks to be 12 to 15 towns looking at tobacco 21 and other issues like menthol bans or flavor bans. Minneapolis on July 24 is the next large one. 45:00 CASAA poll . https://fans.vote/vote/ACpUucRcxOs/casaa-org-the-consumer-advocates-for-smoke-free-alternatives-association/do-you-know-how-to-find-contact-information-for-your-city-and-county-elected-officials Things to come....

CASAA-10 - 07 - 17 Jul 11, 2017

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1:25 Today is the deadline for submitting comments to the FDA regarding the NNN content of smokeless tobacco. http://cqrcengage.com/casaa/app/act-on-a-regulation?0&engagementId=373393 2:03 CASAA submitted their comment in no small part due to the efforts of Julie Woessner,Brian Carter and Alex Clark with an assist from Amelia Howard. 2:30 FDA promulgated a rule January 23 to restrict the level of NNN (N'-Nitrosonornicotine.) Brad Rodu and Carl Phillips break this down and show this is based on faulty math. http://rodutobaccotruth.blogspot.com/search?q=NNN https://antithrlies.com/2017/07/09/sunday-science-lesson-toxicology-and-the-chains-in-american-football/ 5:29 This isn't a chemical that is added to any tobacco product,this is a naturally occuring substance. 8:04 Our comment http://casaa.org/news/casaa-submits-comment-on-fdas-smokeless-tobacco-standards-rule/ 8:32 This rule was rushed at the very end of the Obama administrations tenure. 9:30 A point made by Brian Fotik from the Reason Foundation which should not be overlooked in this mess is that within hours of the rule being published there were comments from the AAP,ACSCAN,AHA,ALA,CFTFK and Truth Initiative. 12:47 What the public thinks it knows about smokeless tobacco is not the entire truth of the subject at all. What we know is based on data that is not exclusive to smokeless moist snuff. 16:14 The same misinformation campagin used against smokeless tobacco is the one being used against vaping as well. 17:30 With a very heavy asist from Atakan Befrits board member http://INNCO.org and NNA Sweden,CASAA submitted a letter in support of the Swedish government to update evidence about the benefits of Swedish Snus. To add to this the NNN has been added to a court case in the European Court of Justice https://nnalliance.org/blog/165-update-on-the-challenge-to-the-ban-on-snus-next-step-the-european-court-of-justice challenging the snus ban in Europe. 22:16 A brief history of smokeless tobacco's ban in Europe appears in this book https://www.amazon.com/Art-Suppression-Pleasure-Panic-Prohibition/dp/0956226531 24:00 Sting Free Snus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDo4bbIzdv4 28:28 Alex Clark and Jule Wessoner will be in Washington DC at VTA Vape and The FDA confrence on July 18 and 19. Senator Ron Johnson is the keynote speaker. Sally Satel will also be presenting at the confrence. Alex and Julie will be presenting along with Jake Butcher state affaris manager for VTA. The talk will be about engaging at the local level. 31:15 Minnesota https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RllZU0LAEsIOaNZIPQ8QZQDeP3iY5fjohawDpEs6Hls/edit#gid=0 37:25 Newsletter http://casaa.org/news/casaa-newsletter-june-2017/ A book recommendation on how prohobitionist's think: Velvet Glove Iron Fist https://www.amazon.com/Velvet-Glove-Iron-Fist-Anti-Smoking/dp/0956226507/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1499739504&sr=1-1&keywords=9780956226501 40:24 Another book recommendation Chasing the Scream by Johan Hari a very comprehensive history of the war on drugs. Also an amazing read. https://www.amazon.com/Chasing-Scream-First-Last-Drugs/dp/1620408902 42:13 WHO recommends drug decriminilization http://www.drugpolicy.org/blog/united-nations-and-world-health-organization-call-drug-decriminalization 42:26 Oregon decriminalization http://www.pimalp.org/oregon-trying-decriminalize-drugs-even-heroin-meth-2017/ 43:07 Ethan Nadleman speech at the GFN https://youtu.be/ZLBtTfk6x1Y 42:27 You're More Powerful Than You Think Eric Liu https://www.amazon.com/Youre-More-Powerful-than-Think/dp/161039707X And Citizen's university http://www.citizenuniversity.us/

CASAA-30 - 06 - 17 Jul 02, 2017

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:40 Language in AG appropriations bill. (Where the Cole/Bishop language has lived for the past.) 2:07 This is no longer an amendment this is now base language in the bill. 2:30 This year the language has the addition of characterizing flavors. 2:56 Page 99 of the bill https://appropriations.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=394939 3:10 FDA being directed to promulgate a rule about characterizing flavors 3:56 Product standardizing language? 4:04 This language was used in the tobacco control act to ban flavored cigarettes 5:36 Investigation into what exactly characterizing flavors means 6:05 This is sort of unclear but we are investigating what this means 6:25 The possibility to ban flavors is there and has always been there since the FDA was given authority to regulate. 7:42 OMB or OIRA stripped out the flavors language previously. 8:09 This administration is far less hostile to our cause than the previous one was. 9:06 If this language stays in this allows us to look at a predicate date change, 9:43 CASAA is investigating and monitoring this situation 12:33 Watch this space for further details. 17:11 Product standards 19:05 Proposed rule on tobacco product standards in smokeless tobacco. 20:40 Defacto ban. 22:05 July 10 comment deadline https://www.regulations.gov/document?D=FDA-2016-N-2527-0286 22:29 Product standards this is the type of thing the FDA can do when full authority is assumed. 23:27 Why vapers should comment.(Excessive FDA regulation) 25:40 Difference between American and Swedish smokeless products. 26:15 CASAA is working on submitting a comment. 26:46 American Enterprise Institute video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBThHeHhqXA 27:48 San Francisco Flavor ban passed last week on first reading. 28:40 Mayor indicated he will sign this bill. 29:22 May 2018 this bill takes effect. There is still time. This is not over. 30:47 Prop 56 tax is in effect July 1. 65.08 percent increase. https://www.boe.ca.gov/industry/cigarettes_tobacco_products.html#overview 33:31 States are well within their authority to set regulations and restrictions on how tobacco products are sold and used,proximity limits,legal age to purchase ect. 35:51 Smokers and former smokers don't matter to the state. They see us as damaged goods. The focus is on preventing children from becoming broken like us. 37:20 E cigarette politics http://www.ecigarette-politics.com/ 38:26 More California flavor bans 40:00 Minnesota tobacco 21 (also a flavor ban) 42:52 OHVTA No e cigarette taxation language in the budget.

Casaa 23 - 06 - 17 Jun 24, 2017

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:27 San Francisco flavor ban passed at first reading at their regularly scheduled board meeting. There is another meeting planned but it is still expected to pass. CASAA's nationwide action for this http://p2a.co/hoHP3gO 3:26 Policies that happens in California tend to spread nationwide and this is why we ask people to comment respectfully on this ordinance. 5:02 On New York and the attempted regulation of flavors. 5:42 New Jersey one bill to ban all flavors including tobacco flavor. (Not expected to move at this time but you can never be too careful with legislation) 6:24 D.C. talk about banning flavors there as well. Flavors and regulation of what is appropriate are to some extent on the table this year. 9:15 Unintended consequences black market 14:30 A bit on signature on delivery 22:16 E liquid labelling what's appropriate 24:48 Oregon and specific guidelines on labelling 29:10 A look ahead,highlights on the future of local legislation. 30:41 Legislation is local and why it's so hard for the THR groups to monitor it all. 38:28 Genesee County Michigan tobacco 21 ruling http://halfwheel.com/genesee-county-mich-smoking-ban-ruled-unenforceable/156504 40:06 Michigan does have a bill at the state level to raise the age to 21 for the entire state.The regular session for Michigan ends in December. 43:22 Damon Jacobs testimony in San Francisco https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBny0icXow0 43:58 New York State A516 and S2543 these bills prohibit vaping in public places. (Listen for full description of the changes in these bills and it's not all bad) 51:06 Massachusetts (tax) 51:33 Deleware (tax) 52:06 Opportunities to take action:Citizen's Petition, Letters to HHS Secretary Price,New co-sponsors on 1136 (thank you letters) A listing of where to get CASAA updates 1 here casaa.org/podcast/ 2 here @casaa-media 3 here itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/casaa…dia/id1190244806

CASAA 16 - 06 - 17 Jun 18, 2017

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:58 Massachusetts Take action to oppose two bills that would make access to smoke-free tobacco and nicotine products needlessly more expensive. S 1576 S 1497 These bills are scheduled for a hearing on Tuesday, June 20, 2017 at 1:00 PM Joint Revenue Committee Hearing Room A-2 Massachusetts State House 24 Beacon St, Boston, MA 02133 Please attend this hearing if you are able to. If you can't then please take action now to oppose these bills by sending a message to committee members urging them to vote no on S 1576 and amend S 1497 to remove section 3! CASAA’s Call to action http://casaa.org/call-to-action/ma-take-action-to-stop-new-taxes-on-vaping-and-a-tax-hike-on-smokeless-tobacco/ Full text of bills https://malegislature.gov/Bills/190/S1576 3:30 Delaware http://www.newsobserver.com/news/business/article156503354.html Governor Carney’s FY2018 budget plan has a proposal to include vapor products in other tobacco (OTP) taxes. This proposal also includes a 100% tax hike on OTP, raising the tax to 30% of wholesale. Delaware’s budget needs to be finished by the end of June, so negotiations are starting NOW! Take action today! http://casaa.org/call-to-action/de-stop-governor-carney-from-taxing-vapor-products 4:10 California Flavor Bans Much of what has started this is an urge to ban menthol. Anti tobacco activists want to ban it as it seems to be unfairly targeted to vulnerable communities and although it arises out of an urge to protect people it also unfairly targets all tobacco products including low risk products that many people use to reduce or stop their smoking entirely. http://sanfrancisco.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=44&clip_id=28096#.WULE3BYvKkc.facebook A more ethical way of handling this flavor ban is to share truthful and accurate information with current vulnerable populations which allows them to make a better informed choice. 11:24 The ordinance was passed out of committee so it goes onto a debate in the full council. The recording of the full hearing is available here http://sanfrancisco.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php... CASAA Testimony from Jennifer Berger Coleman at 02:41:44 13:37 This week was the global forum on nicotine. It was a great resource for THR advocates and vapers to follow. GFN Hashtag on twitter here: https://twitter.com/hashtag/GFN17?src=hash NNA Alliance have some periscopes of the events here: https://gfn.net.co/2017/programme-details The presentations are now available online to download and peruse at your leisure here:https://gfn.net.co/2017/programme-details 17:17 Kansas HB 2230 Passed the legislature collecting only one no vote. This bill changes the tax rate to 5 cents per millilitre tax. It’s effectively a reduction in the tax rate. http://casaa.org/call-to-action/kansas-take-action-to-change-the-tax-on-vapor-products/ 19:00 National Youth Tobacco survey results: http://www.csnews.com/product-categories/tobacco/drop-e-cig-use-drives-decline-youth-tobacco-use 22:13 This may be unrelated but it seems as though it may be related to these results being released. Other groups are sending letters to FDA’s Scott Gottlieb to ask for a reduction or reform of the FDA’s regulation of nicotine containing products. https://www.clivebates.com/documents/FDAReformJune2017.pdf 27:56 Delay the FDA comment on the citizen’s Petition today. .http://casaa.org/call-to-action/delay-the-fda-comment-on-the-citizen-petition-today 29:25 A listing of where to get CASAA updates 1 here casaa.org/podcast/ 2 here @casaa-media 3 here itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/casaa…dia/id1190244806

CASAA 09 - 06 - 17 Jun 11, 2017

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CASAA 09 - 06 - 17 Jun 11, 2017

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:33 Yellowstone County Montana Alert This rule would prevent vaping within 30 feet of windows,doorways or ventilation systems. http://casaa.org/call-to-action/mt-yellowstone-county-public-hearing-on-indoor-vaping-ban/ CASAA hopes members in Yellowstone County will make plans to attend and/or Submit a comment through Riverstone Health’s online comment form 5:10 Wednesday Alex attended a workshop/training session provided by the harm reduction coalition on New York It was called Who's lung is it anyway? http://harmreduction.org/training-calendar/whos-lung-is-it-anyway-a-harm-reduction-approach-to-smoking-and-nicotine-replacements/ This really is groundbreaking sort of thinking for dealing with pain,suffering and death in the LGBTQ communitiy. There has been amazing work done to reduce harm and suffering from AIDS in this community and yet tobacco harm reduction has not been brought into this space. 10:01 Meeting people where they're at. 14:15 The difference in people's minds between tobacco harm reduction and things like NARCAN for Opioid addicts. 16:31 How proponents and opponents of Tobacco Harm Reduction communicate with each other. 20:24 California California flavor bans. 20:49 "Swarm of anti vaping ordinances" a tactic being employed by our "friends" at tobacco control. 21:49H/T to Stefan Didak and Not Blowing Smoke for all the information on these ordinances. 22:32 Open letter co-signed by Alex Clark and Jennifer Berger Coleman http://www.logcabin.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Open-Letter-to-San-Francisco-Supervisors.pdf 24:05 San Francisco June 14 ten am For the May 24th meeting, this ordinance (170441) is on the agenda under the “30-day rule” section. This means that the legislation will not be considered and no action will be taken at this meeting. http://casaa.org/call-to-action/san-francisco-ca-stop-the-flavor-ban/ 26:27 Los Gatos 26:54 San Leandro County hearing during Ramadan. It's very important to point out that from May 27 until June 24 is Ramadan. This is a religious observation and a time of fasting,this fasting generally includes not drinking or eating anything for almost the entire day. 28:45 It's important to point out that many stakeholders most affected by these proposed ordinances are Muslim. By scheduling these ordinance hearings during this time it has a negative effect on allowing free participation in the process by all stakeholders. 30:40 It is an example of how anti-tobacco activists are sort of in their own little bubble this would be it. How it looks to someone observing this from the outside it could appear to be a purposeful thing and although it may not have been it still has a negative effect on the stakeholders and on the inclusiveness of the decision making process of government. 31:37 Because of Ramadan many of these hearings have had to be rescheduled completely or they will be bought back for a second hearing. 31:54 San Leandro update 32:45 San Francisco's hearing 33:40 Palo Alto 35:59 Allegany County NY Tabled tobacco 21 ordinance. Eight counties in New York City in that area have adopted a tobacco 21 law. Article : http://www.oleantimesherald.com/news/allegany-county-smoking-age-law-tabled-in-committee/article_7b4d6918-4c03-11e7-8084-7b7acb7b4fde.html The arguments against it were interesting,this should be a state decision and not a county one,active duty military ect. 39:55 Tobacco 21 bills in states:16 bills have failed in 12 states.Twenty four bills are still pending.Five in Texas,five in Massachusetts,three in New York,two in New Jersey,North Carolina,Iowa,Nebraska,Oregon and Washington. The New Jersey bills have advanced and we're looking to see if they will be vetoed by Governor Christie. 42:15 A listing of where to get CASAA updates 1 here http://casaa.org/podcast/ 2 here @casaa-media 3 here itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/casaa…dia/id1190244806

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