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Brave & Big

What if you could live a Brave and Big life? One where you have great friends, a thriving marriage, a plan to accomplish your goals; a life where you’re fit, spiritually healthy, and constantly becoming everything God created you to be.

Welcome to Brave & Big.

We are Chris Hart, founder and CEO of Brave Coaches, and Joey Odom, public speaker, author, and former tech co-founder, and we have been friends for over 25 years. Throughout our friendship, we have had thousands of conversations, have gotten better from each one, and want you to be part of those conversations. We’ll talk about what it means to be Brave and live Big – things like grit, living with no excuses, following Jesus, being a great parent, spouse, and friend. Sometimes it will just be the two of us and sometimes it will be high performing athletes, business leaders, and performers.

At the end of each episode, you will walk away with a small step that you can immediately implement to take ground in your life.

We’re glad you’re here. Let’s be Brave & live Big.

Copyright: © 2026 Brave & Big

Latest Episodes:

Progress or Excuses: You Can't Do Both May 19, 2026

Show notes

The first sin in human history was followed immediately by an excuse. Adam pointed at Eve. Eve pointed at the serpent. Nobody pointed at themselves. Joey Odom and Chris Hart open episode three with that observation and spend the next forty minutes unpacking why excuses are the lid on almost every life, and what it actually takes to kill them.

This one gets personal fast. Chris lays out the case that an excuse always starts as a lie, and if you let it linger long enough, it becomes your truth. The "I'm just not good at making money." The "I could never get in that kind of shape." The stories we tell ourselves so often we stop noticing we're telling them. Joey pushes back on the easy version of this conversation, draws the line between commitments you actually made and ones you never made in the first place, and gives a tactical reframe that changes everything: stop tying excuses to outcomes. Instead, tie them to activities.

By the end, they land on a line that's going to follow this show around for a while: you can either make progress or make excuses. You cannot do both.

In this episode:

- Why the first response to the first sin was an excuse, and what that tells you about human nature

- The difference between a real excuse and something you were never committed to in the first place

- How an excuse starts as a lie and slowly becomes your truth

- Why tying your commitments to activities (not outcomes) is the unlock

- The event plus response equals outcome formula, and where most people get it wrong

- The 100 percent rule: why all-in is actually easier than 98 percent

- How defensiveness is a tell that there's truth in what you're hearing

- The six F's gut-check: where are you making excuses in faith, family, fun, fitness, finances, friends

This week's small step: Identify one excuse you're making personally and one you're making professionally. Just one of each. Kill them both for the next seven days. That's it. Make progress or make excuses. You cannot do both.

Be Brave. Live Big.

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FOLLOW THE HOSTS

Joey Odom — @joeyodom.life; www.joeyodom.life

Chris Hart — @thechrishart · @thebravecoaches; www.bravecoaches.com

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Produced by Sonus Podcasts · sonuspodcasts.com

Covenant Friendship: The Friends Who Make You Invincible May 12, 2026

Show notes

Most people have friends but not true covenant relationship. Joey Odom and Chris Hart spend this week unpacking the difference — and why it matters more than almost anything else in your life.
It starts with two stories. A five-hour drive to a men's conference where one guy looked around the truck and said, "I've never felt invincible until this car ride." And a phone call from a friend's wife — the one she'd been carrying alone for a year and a half because her husband wasn't right and she didn't know who to call.

Joey and Chris use those two moments as bookends for what real friendship actually looks like. Not the surface-level version. The kind where your wife knows exactly which three men to call if you're not your best self. The kind where, when life caves in, somebody's already in the truck.
In this episode:
— The two questions that reveal whether your friendships are real — Why your wife should know exactly who to call when you're not right — The Up, Out, Down framework for the friendships every man needs — The One, Three, Twelve model (and why naming it changes everything) — The PID Loop: how proximity becomes interaction becomes dependence — Story, Silly, Secret: the ten-minute weekly call that built this show — Why a brother is born for adversity — and why asking for help isn't a burden — How to give and receive rebuke without being a baby about it
This week's small step:
Take fifteen minutes. Write down your Up, your Out, and your Down. If a name's missing in any category, that's your assignment for the week. Pursue an up. Initiate with an out. Pour into a down.
Be Brave. Live Big.
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SUBSCRIBE & REVIEW If this episode hit, do us a favor: subscribe wherever you listen, and leave us a 5-star review. It's the single biggest thing you can do to help us reach more men with this show.
FOLLOW THE HOSTS Joey Odom — @joeyodom.life Chris Hart — @thechrishart · @thebravecoaches
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Produced by Sonus Podcasts · sonuspodcasts.com

The 20 Mile March: A Life Worth Following May 05, 2026

Show notes

After 27 years of friendship, Joey Odom and Chris Hart are finally doing the thing they've been talking about since college. Every week, they're sitting down to have the kind of conversations that make both of them better men.

Episode one starts where the show starts: with the friendship itself. Then Chris walks Joey (and you) through the framework that anchors how he coaches some of the most successful leaders in the country. It's called the 20 Mile March.

In the early 1900s, two expedition teams raced to be the first to reach the South Pole. One pushed hard on good weather days and hunkered down on bad ones. The other committed to 20 miles a day, every day, no matter the conditions. Only one team made it home.

The same principle that decided who lived and who died on that ice is the principle that decides whether you'll actually become the husband, father, leader, and man you say you want to be.

In this episode:
— Why you become better around the right people (and how to find them)
— The Roald Amundsen expedition that changed how Chris coaches every client
— Why the "lone wolf" is a myth that gets you killed
— The unsexy truth about everyday courage (hint: it looks like not hitting snooze)
— How to stop being a bystander to your own life
— The one question that turns ordinary days into intentional ones
This week's small step: Pick one category. Faith, family, fitness, finances, friends. Decide what your 20 Mile March looks like in it. Make it small. Make it sustainable. Then wake up tomorrow and execute.
Be Brave. Live Big.
SUBSCRIBE & REVIEW If this episode hit, do us a favor. Subscribe wherever you listen, and leave us a 5-star review. It's the single biggest thing you can do to help us reach more men with this show.

FOLLOW THE HOSTS
Chris Hart: @thechrishart, @thebravecoaches
Joey Odom: instagram.com/joeyodom.life
https://www.joeyodom.life/

REFERENCED IN THIS EPISODE The 20 Mile March concept comes from Jim Collins' book Great by Choice (2011), based on his research into what set Roald Amundsen's South Pole expedition apart from Robert Scott's.
Produced by Sonus Podcasts · sonuspodcasts.com

Brave & Big - Trailer Apr 29, 2026

Show notes

Welcome to Brave & Big — a weekly conversation for anyone ready to stop coasting and start taking ground.

Chris Hart, founder and CEO of Brave Coaches, and Joey Odom, public speaker, author, and former tech co-founder, have been best friends for over 25 years. In that friendship, they've had thousands of conversations — and walked away from every one of them better, sharper, and more fired up to live a life worth following.

This trailer is their invitation to pull up a chair.

Each week, Chris and Joey will dig into what it actually looks like to be Brave and live Big: killing excuses, taking ground in your marriage, following Jesus, raising kids who matter, getting fit, building friendships that sharpen you, and chasing the things you were made for. Some episodes will be just the two of them. Others will feature high-performing athletes, business leaders, and performers who've learned how to show up.

And every single episode will close the same way — with one small, practical step you can take immediately.

Because a Brave and Big life isn't built in a leap. It's built in a step.

🎧 Subscribe now. New episodes weekly. Be Brave. Live Big.

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