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    Brand Builder

    Brand Builder brings you the people, stories, and lessons learned from the most innovative brands in the world. Presented by SnackNation. Hosted by Sean Kelly, Jordan Cohen, and Jeff Murphy.

    Similar to How I Built This, The Dave Ramsey Show, and Seeking Wisdom by Drift.

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    Latest Episodes:
    How dosist is Becoming the Starbucks of Cannabis, with dosist CEO Gunner Winston May 13, 2019
    Show notes

    "What we're going after is almost once in a generation."

    Dosist CEO Gunner Winston has big plans for the brand.

    Founded with the goal of creating the first cannabis products based on the science behind the plant, dosist first made a name for itself through product innovation. Their dose pens, which deliver a consistent dose of THC, even landed them on TIME magazine's 25 best inventions of 2016 list.

    But what really drives dosist is a strong brand identity, one that elevates benefits over features, taps into customer aspirations, and has more in common with Nike, Apple, and Starbucks than your typical cannabis company.

    Why is this the approach? That's what we cover in this week's Brand Builder.

    Takeaways

    • The greatest brands transcend their categories. That's the sort of brand innovation that dosist aspires to, and Gunner lays out the strategy to make dosist one of those transcendent brands.
    • From Hmbldt to dosist. Pay special attention to what Gunner says about why the company rebranded from hmbldt to dosist, as well as their new brand positioning and the messages they lead with.
    • Earn it before you start expanding. Gunner explains why brands have to lay out a vision, and then deliver on the promise before they can start expanding their offering.

    Links

    • dosist

    Join our Exclusive Facebook Group!

    What's your biggest takeaway from the episode? Join our invite-only, private Facebook group just for Brand Builder Community members, where you can connect with fellow entrepreneurs and founders, crowdsource ideas, share best practices (or lessons learned), and get your most important questions answered. Join now!

    Facebook.com/groups/brandbuilderpod

    Brand Builder is a co-production of SnackNation and ForceBrands.


    How KRAVE Sparked a Modern CPG Revolution, w/ KRAVE founder Jon Sebastiani May 06, 2019
    Show notes

    We've interviewed a lot of great jerky brands on Brand Builder: Country Archer, Field Trip, Chomps, all progressive brands who have helped people see the category in a whole new light. But every single one of these brands give props to one brand that did it first and paved the way for the rest - KRAVE.

    So of course, we've been dying to get Jon Sebastiani, the founder of KRAVE jerky on the podcast for a while now. The wait is over, as Jon joined us in the Brand Builder studio for this incredible interview.

    Jon founded KRAVE way back in 2007. At the time, the brand was revolutionary - an elevated jerky that had more in common with gourmet foods or fine wine than the typical gas-station fare that existed at the time.

    In fact, what Jon created with KRAVE is pretty remarkable when you think about it - a market big enough where all of these brands can coexist and be successful.

    Jon walked us through his career path which has been marked with milestone accomplishments, including the founding of KRAVE.

    What you might not know - Jon also founded Smashmallow, sits on the board of brands like Dang, and is now an investor through Sonoma Brands, his consumer products incubator and venture fund.

    Takeaways

    • What it's like to be a first-mover, and the importance of speed in today's CPG landscape.
    • The emotional toll of entrepreneurship. Jon gives tips for dealing with self-doubt, anxiety, and gives you tips to stay focused.

    Links

    • Sonoma Brands
    • KRAVE Jerky
    • Smashmallow
    • Connect with Jon on LinkedIn.

    Join our Exclusive Facebook Group!

    What's your biggest takeaway from the episode? Join our invite-only, private Facebook group just for Brand Builder Community members, where you can connect with fellow entrepreneurs and founders, crowdsource ideas, share best practices (or lessons learned), and get your most important questions answered. Join now!

    Brand Builder is a co-production of SnackNation and ForceBrands.


    The Brand Builder Playbook: Advanced Tips to Skyrocket Sales and Become a Household Name (100th Episode) Apr 29, 2019
    Show notes

    To celebrate our 100th episode, we're launching The Brand Builder Playbook, featuring advanced tips to help you skyrocket sales, grow your brand, and become a household name.

    We're living in a golden age of CPG. An influx of capital, lower barriers to entry, and a consumer that cares more than ever about ingredients, health, and the social impact of the products they purchase - it all adds up to massive opportunity for the right kinds of emerging brands.

    But there's a flip side. Competition is at an all time high. The margin for error is razor thin, and there's a mounting pressure to grow quickly. One wrong move, and your venture can fail.

    So what's the secret? You have to learn from those who've been there before. Sure, some lessons can only be learned the hard way. But if you want to win in the modern CPG landscape, you have to limit those failures as much as you can. You have to stand on the shoulders of those who came before you. That's why we put together this playbook.

    We're also giving away a free ebook version of the Brand Builder Playbook, which contains two exclusive bonus tips.

    So listen to the episode, and then download The Brand Builder Playbook for more in-depth details plus two exclusive bonus tactics.

    www.snacknation.com/playbook


    7 Essential Tips for Winning in the Era of Infinite Consumer Choice Apr 22, 2019
    Show notes

    This week on Brand Builder we have a conversation about how to get close to the customer, and why that's so important.

    It all stems from the idea of infinite supply - that in the era of nearly infinite consumer choice, the way consumer brands innovate has to change if they want to survive.

    We have to give credit to the team at Drift and their book This Won't Scale, where the idea for this conversation first came. Here's the passage that inspired this episode:

    "You can only achieve hypergrowth by being close to the customer… We realized that in a world of infinite supply, the customer has all the power." (p. 7)

    The infinite supply dynamic has long been at play in digital products like software, but it increasingly applies to physical products like CPG and snack brands. Consumer choice is approaching infinity, which means competition is too, and brands have to realign their approach.

    Here's what we cover.

    Takeaways

    • Tip #1 - Need Brand Innovation & Connection
    • Tip #2 - Brands are Relationships
    • Tip #3 - Practice Essentialism
    • Tip #4 - Serve as a Guide to Positive Transformation
    • Tip #5 - Go To Your Customer
    • Tip #6 - Create Two-Way Conversations
    • Tip #7 - Own Your Relationships

    Links

    • This Won't Scale by the Drift Marketing Team
    • Connect with Sean on LinkedIn.

    Brand Builder is a co-production of SnackNation and ForceBrands.


    5 Deadly Marketing Mistakes Most CPG Brands Make...And How To Avoid Them, with Hawke Media CEO Erik Huberman Apr 15, 2019
    Show notes

    There are things you're doing right now that are hurting your business.

    It's ok. You're not the only one. It can be hard to keep up in the constantly shifting landscape of social media platforms, direct to consumer retail channels, marketing best practices, and latest and greatest growth hacks.

    Luckily, we've got a marketing expert to help you identify and avoid these mistakes. Joining us is Erik Huberman, the founder and CEO of Hawke Media.

    Erik knows his stuff. Hawke is a full service marketing consultancy who has done work for literally thousands of brands, including household names like Red Bull, inCase, Proactiv, Verizon, and tons more. Plus Erik has been named to Forbes' 30 Under 30 list, Inc. Magazine's top 25 Marketing Influencers, and he's a frequent keynote speaker and contributing writer.

    Erik starts with the fundamentals, then gets really granular and nuanced when it comes to tactics.

    Pay special attention to the "three pillars of marketing" that Erik describes. If you come away with anything from this episode, that should be it. But of course there's a lot more to it than that:

    Takeaways

    • What to do when your customer isn't who you think it is. When brands discover this… most make this one big mistake. Erik tells us what that is.
    • Do things that aren't measurable. Yes, of course do the things with clear ROI, but not all value is immediately measurable.
    • Why direct response marketing is less important than it used to be, and what to focus on instead.

    Links

    • Hawke Media
    • Connect with Erik on LinkedIn.

    Brand Builder is a co-production of SnackNation and ForceBrands.


    How Ka-Pop! Applies the Lessons of Big CPG to Raise Money, Scale Quickly, and Become a Hit with Consumers Apr 08, 2019
    Show notes

    What if you could take 15 years of CPG experience, distill it down in a 30 minute podcast interview - would you be interested?

    If you said yes, you're in luck, because that's precisely what's on deck on this week's Brand Builder.

    We interview Dustin Finkel, the CEO at the Ancient inGRAINed Snack Co., makers of Ka-Pop! snacks.

    Dustin is a 15+ year veteran of the CPG business. He's got an MBA from Northwestern, and he's an adjunct professor at the University of Colorado at Boulder.

    But With Ka-Pop - it's the first time he's started his own brand, and he was surprised by how much he still had to learn. He told us that if he's struggling with these things, he know there are other entrepreneurs who need help with this stuff too. He's all about paying it forward and giving back.

    Ka-pop is a popped chip made from ancient grains. It's made with clean ingredients, it tastes great, contains omega 3s, and has a great brand to support it.

    Takeaways

    • The most common deficiency Dustin sees with early stage entrepreneurs, and how they can get better.
    • How to scale a tribe-based marketing strategy.
    • How to raise a pre-revenue seed round. Sometimes it's the last thing holding you back - a proper seed round to get you off the ground.

    Links

    • Ka-Pop! Snacks
    • Connect with Dustin on LinkedIn
    • Ka-Pop! joins Kraft Springboard Brands

    Brand Builder is a co-production of SnackNation and ForceBrands.


    How to Make the Right Choice for Your Brand - Even When It's the Hardest, with McClure's Pickles co-founder Bob McClure Apr 01, 2019
    Show notes

    This week's episode is all about hard choices.

    We're talking to Bob McClure, one of the founders of McClure's pickles, an artisan pickle brand based out of the twin capitals of cool, Brooklyn and Detroit. It's a true family business - Bob launched the brand in 2006 with his brother Joe using their great grandmother Lala's recipe.

    For many, their first introduction to the McClure's brand was their great tasting pickle-flavored potato chips. And I was super surprised when they discontinued them.

    Pivoting away from a popular product in order to focus on doing one thing really well is never an easy decision. But Bob explains that diversifying their offering in that way wasn't quite the right move - even though they had a fantastic product that a lot of people loved. He tells us how they knew it was time to make the hard choice to shut it down.

    Bob also provides fantastic practical advice about how to approach your relationship with buyers, and cutting through the noise in a digital world.

    Links

    • McClure's Pickles
    • Connect with Bob on LinkedIn
    • Also in this episode - Stryve Biltong

    Brand Builder is a co-production of SnackNation and ForceBrands.


    How SANS Mealbar is Overcoming the Single Biggest Challenge New Brands Face Mar 25, 2019
    Show notes

    When you look at the numbers, the meal replacement category represents a gigantic opportunity. We're talking about a $4 billion market in the U.S., and $12 billion globally. What's more, the category lacks product leadership. It's as if the market is just waiting for an upstart brand to seize the mantle - and the marketshare. This week's Brand Builder guest is on a mission to be that brand. We're talking to Nathan Gordon, the CEO and C0-Founder of SANS Mealbar, and his goal is to make SANS the undisputed product leader of this huge category.

    Right now, SANS' primary challenge is awareness. We talk a lot about how they're overcoming it and how that informs their overall strategy. Plus, we learn about the personal connection that inspired SANS ambitious social mission.

    Top Takeaways:

    • Becoming a product leader. What this means and what SANS is doing to achieve it.
    • Power of trial and sampling. When you believe in your product, there's nothing better to invest in than putting your product in front of potential customers.
    • Differentiating in a saturated D2C landscape. Nathan lays out strategies for standing out in a sea of D2C noise.

    Links

    • SANS Mealbar
    • Connect with Nathan on LinkedIn

    Brand Builder is a co-production of SnackNation and ForceBrands.


    How The Wine RayZyn Company Turned Tragedy into Triumph Mar 18, 2019
    Show notes

    Resilience is something that every entrepreneur needs - and that this week's guest has in spades. We're talking to Andrew Cates, the co-founder of the Wine RayZyn Co. Andrew takes superfood wine grapes, dries them, and covers them in dark chocolate - to make Cabernazyn, Merlayzyn, and Chardonayzyn Wine RayZyns. The result is a healthy yet indulgent snack loaded with antioxidants. We ran through a ton of topics with Andrew, including his founding story and the on-the-ground way he stays close his customers. But perhaps the biggest lesson was on the topic of resilience. As you'll hear Andrew, faced catastrophic loss after the devastating Napa fires of 2017, and it was his resilient spirit that enabled him not just to persevere, but to emerge triumphant. How he rose from the ashes is enough to inspire anyone.

    Links

    • The Wine RayZyn Co.
    • Food Recovery Network
    • Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn

    Brand Builder is a co-production of SnackNation and ForceBrands.


    How the Hottest Brands at Expo West Use Data to Accelerate Growth Mar 11, 2019
    Show notes

    We just wrapped four epic days at the Natural Products EXPO West, the center of the CPG universe. We came, we saw, we sampled.

    Expo is a big deal. According to New Hope Network, who puts on the show every year, there were more than 3,500 exhibitors and 85,000 attendees at last year's Expo. And I heard estimates that there were more than 90,0000 this year.

    Rather than getting caught up in the madness that is Expo West, we narrowed our focus to one topic: data.

    Our mission was to find out how brands are leveraging data to innovate and stand out in this fast growing but insanely competitive space.

    With that, we hit the floor.

    Brands in this episode:

    • Wilde https://www.wildebrands.com/
    • Kween - https://kween.co/
    • Kim and Jake's - https://kimandjakes.com/
    • Break Trail Ventures - https://www.breaktrailventures.com/
    • Mooala - https://www.mooala.com/
    • 4505 - https://4505meats.com/
    • Nutty Goodness - https://nuttygoodness.com/
    • Cave Shake - https://eatspaceshake.com/
    • Eat Your coffee - https://www.eatyour.coffee/
    • Zee Zee's -https://www.zeezees.com/

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