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PYSO, ep. 73: Kasia Niewiadoma on racing in a world of uncertainty Oct 08, 2020

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Race every race like it's your last. We've all heard that kind of a cliche in one form or another during our lives. However, for the women's peloton in 2020, no sentiment could ring more true. Today, we sit down with Kasia Niewiadoma from Canyon//SRAM to hear from her just what it's like to be approaching each race day as if it's your last.

PYSO, ep. 72: Winning Tour de France director Allan Peiper on taking the long view Oct 01, 2020

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When Tadej Pogacar won the 2020 Tour de France, it was a come-from-behind success story for the whole UAE Team Emirates squad, including veteran director Allan Peiper. But it was by no means the first come-from-behind success for Peiper, who has twice battled cancer. Peiper got his start in the sport decades ago as an athlete before going on to serve as a sports director and sporting manager at elite teams. After his parents split up due to job loss and alcoholism while he was a teenager, Peiper dropped out of school and found himself heading to Belgium to race at age 17. Tune in to this episode of Put Your Socks On to hear Peiper’s tale of struggle and success.

PYSO, EP. 71: What the Tour de France means now for cycling Sep 24, 2020

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Hindsight is 20/20 — and that's exactly what PYSO is bringing to this special episode reflecting on the 2020 Tour de France. Co-hosts Bobby Julich, himself a podium finisher at the Tour, and retired racer Gus Morton look back at the highlights, the lowlights, and the surprises of this year's race. In the plus column, for starters, there was a Tour de France — and it made it all the way to Paris. In the year of Covid, just the existence of the race was a success. But then the race turned out to be filled with drama all the way until the end of the Stage 20 time trial. Bobby and Gus break down their favorite stages and performances, explain how the green jersey competition played into the overall race like never before, and analyze what Jumbo-Visma did right and did wrong. Bobby also speculates on what all this means for former Tour winners Chris Froome and Geraint Thomas, both of whom sat out this edition. "It's going to be difficult for both of them," Bobby says. "And they're probably two of my favorite riders ever. I have the ultimate respect for them. But this new generation of such young riders being kind of steered in the correct way of doing things, I think it's gonna be really hard, just from a recovery standpoint, because when you're racing against guys that are 12 to 14 years younger than you, I mean, logic says they're going to be able to recover a little bit better." Tune in for a 20/20 take on the 2020 Tour de France.

PYSO, ep. 70: Commentator Matt Keenan on the thrill of calling races Sep 17, 2020

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This year has posed unique challenges for everyone in pro racing, and TV commentators have not been immune. In this episode of Put Your Socks On, retired pro Matt Keenan talks about his preparation process for calling the Tour de France. In short, a lot of homework is involved. This year, instead of commentating for ASO in France at the Tour, Keenan is calling the daily action for SBS from his native Australia. “Commentating remotely, you lose a couple key things about the feel for it,” Keenan says, adding that he misses being able to drive the end of each day’s course and being able to talk with journalists of other nationalities to get the latest news and gossip. “I like to be able to inform people when I’m commentating about stuff that they can’t find from Dr. Google,” Keenan says. “The upside of commentating from home is I get to see my family each day. Normally I spend maybe five months or so in a hotel bed. So that’s been one of the positives.” This year Keenan has also been training during the Tour, thanks to the legend Graeme Brown coaching him. “Graeme said, ‘you’re going to be at home, why don’t let me coach you through the Tour and see if I can get you fitter at the end than what you are at the start?'” Keenan says. And Keenan breaks down his method of preparation on each of the riders at the Tour. “I have two start lists,” he says. “I have a start list with a really brief set of stats on every single rider: their age, where they’re from, their height, their weight, couple of key results, how many times they’ve ridden the Tour. So if they appear in the breakaway, I’ve got a really quick reference point on them. And then I’ve got another I list, an extensive database [with all the notes on their background].” “Then each day during the Tour, I spend about an hour and a half or so going through the book that tells us the details about the churches and all that sort of stuff. And you’ve got no idea how much feedback we get on that. We get more feedback on that than we do on the race.” Tune into Put Your Socks On to listen to one of the key voices of the Tour de France.

PYSO, ep. 69: Geoffrey LeMond on growing up around innovation Sep 10, 2020

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Most Tour de France fans know the story of Greg LeMond well. But what was it like growing up in that world? This week, Bobby and Gus sit down with Geoffrey LeMond, son of Greg and the kid made famous for his appearance alongside his father on the top step of the Tour de France podium in 1989. Now 35, Geoffrey reflects on the racing, the characters, and the innovation that went on during his father's career, such as Giro aero helmets and Scott aero bars. Geoffrey talks about how his love of inventing has led him back to the cycling world with the development of new carbon technology, as well as the upcoming relaunch of the fabled LeMond bicycle brand.

PYSO, ep. 68: Mark Cavendish, winner of 30 Tour stages, reflects on the biggest race in the world Sep 03, 2020

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Mark Cavendish has won 30 stages of the Tour de France. This places his second in the all-time record behind Eddy Merckx — or first in the all-time record if you are only counting mass-start stages and not time trials as well. Cavendish is not racing the Tour de France this year, and the veteran sprinter reflects with Bobby and Gus about the special dynamics of the Tour — “I owe the Tour de France everything in my life” — the struggles he’s faced both on and off the bike, and the special people he considers friends like Bernie Eisel and George Hincapie. Cavendish talks about how track racing prepared him to sprint at the Tour, in terms of leg speed and tactics. Cavendish says his top end power is relatively low for a Tour sprinter, but he can sustain it for a long time. “It’s rare I’ll get over 1,400 watts, you know, but I can average over 1,200 for 15 seconds, whereas guys like [Andre] Greipel would go 2,000 and then quickly drop down to 1,000 or 900,” he says. Cavendish talks about the special dynamics of sprinting at the Tour de France compared to other races, where most teams are balancing interests in the general classification along with other goals. And Cavendish defends the complexity and excitement of bunch sprints against the armchair commentators who say flat stages are boring. “Anybody who says a bunch sprint is boring is not intelligent enough to understand what’s going on in a bunch sprint,” he says. “For me, bunch sprinting is the only part of cycling left that uses pure tactics. You know, even a mountain stage is literally a time trial where everyone starts together. It’s a physical thing. You can do it or you can’t, it’s as simple as that. You know what power you can pull out and you do that, and whoever can hold the highest threshold wins. And sprinting is a lot more dynamic.” Tune in for a special Tour de France edition of Put Your Socks On with Mark Cavendish.

PYSO, ep. 67: Bahrain-McLaren's Rod Ellingworth on preparing for the Tour de France Aug 27, 2020

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Bobby Julich calls him Sir Rod. Bahrain-McLaren racers call him boss. You probably know Rod Ellingworth from his early coaching connection to Mark Cavendish. However you know him, the general manager of the WorldTour squad Bahrain-McLaren comes on the show today to talk about preparing for the Tour de France. Getting an international team ready for the Tour is organized chaos in the best of times, with people, vehicles, and materials scattered around various countries in the weeks and days leading up to the Grand Depart. And this year of course is special, with coronavirus precautions adding layer upon layer of complexity. "We had all the challenges, we didn't just have the COVID challenge," Ellingworth said. "Our partners were in trouble from a financial point of view, and that was potentially the biggest challenge that we had." Bahrain-McLaren recently announced that McLaren will not be returning as a sponsor next year. Selecting which eight riders make the Tour de France team is critical point for any team. Ellingworth explains how his background with the British Olympic program helps inform his selection criteria. Providing transparency and clarity into the selection process is key, he says. "The sports directors give us the demands of the event, which then tells you how many climbers do you take, how many flat riders do you take, and so forth. So you've got the outline," he said. "And then you say to each of those groups, this is what's expected of you. This is the level that we're expecting. This is the level of teamwork we're expecting. So it's all clearly written out in black and white for the whole team to see from very early." You can see Bahrain-McLaren's Tour de France team here: https://www.velonews.com/tour-de-france/tdf-teams-2020/bahrain-mclaren/

PYSO, ep. 66: ISN benefactor Sylvan Adams on launching Israel into the WorldTour Aug 20, 2020

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Sylvan Adams is an enthusiastic masters racer — with one heck of a philanthropist twist. He fell in love with the sport late, and quickly found his way to national and world masters championship titles. But then…. the successful Canadian businessman and philanthropist went all in on supporting the sport of cycling in general and the Israeli cycling scene in particular, bringing the Giro d’Italia to Israel and launching Israel Start-Up Nation into the World Tour. Tune in for a special episode of Put Your Socks On, as Bobby, Gus, and Sylvan talk about how Sylvan got into cycling, and where he wants to see it go.

PYSO, ep. 65: American football coach Eric Studesville talks cycling Aug 13, 2020

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NFL veteran Eric Studesville has coached for 23 years, including with the Denver Broncos when they won the Super Bowl in 2015. On this episode of PYSO, Eric chats with Bobby and Gus about how football player roles compare to cyclists' roles on a team. Eric got into cycling growing up in Madison, Wisconsin. First, the bike was transportation. Then, it was for workouts. And soon — and now — it is for the love of riding. Now the running back coach for the Miami Dolphins, Eric explains how he lures NFL players into cycling, and what their biggest hesitation is about getting on a bike. Looking at cycling and football, it's not too dissimilar in terms of everyone having distinct roles, Eric says. "Everybody's got a role and function," Eric says. "Running back, you know, you may be a third-down back, you may be a short-yardage or a goal-line back. Are you the two-minute guy? Are you a special teams contributor? I see that on a cycling team; they have a role and a function. You have the GC guy and you have your sprinters and your climbers, but everyone on a team has a role in a function, and everyone has to perform their role and function to the maximum for the team and for the GC rider to have the greatest chance to be successful." "I see the domestique people as the offensive linemen; you may not know who they are, but they're they got to be out there grinding those Ks every day for the team to succeed," he says. On this episode of PYSO, your role is to be the listener, so sit back and enjoy.

PYSO, ep. 64 Isabel King on cycling's intrinsic motivations and inspirations Aug 06, 2020

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A wild road brought Isabel King to cycling: Division One soccer at Columbia led to a UCLA MBA that led to Wall Street and then triathlon? Not the usual route, but today Izzy is racking up QoMs on Strava left and right in California. Tune in for a rolling ride on PYSO with Bobby Julich, Gus Morton, and Isabel King.

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