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    Bitcoin, Fiat & Rock’n’Roll

    Digital currencies are here to stay. In this podcast, we dive into the world of the new money. We explore Bitcoin, stablecoins, central bank digital currencies, and many other innovations in the realm of digital currencies.

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    The Convergence of Capital Markets and Blockchain May 24, 2026
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    How Clearstream Sees the Future of Financial Infrastructure

    In this episode of Bitcoin, Fiat & Rock’n’Roll, Stefan Grasmann speaks with Thilo Derenbach, Head of Sales & Business Development Digital Securities Services at Clearstream, about how financial market infrastructure is evolving through digitisation, tokenisation, and blockchain technology. The conversation offers a rare inside perspective from one of Europe’s most important post-trade infrastructure providers and explores how traditional financial institutions are preparing for a hybrid future between legacy and on-chain markets.

    Thilo explains the role of Deutsche Börse Group, Clearstream, D7, Crypto Finance, 360X and related initiatives, outlining how the group is building digital-first but hybrid infrastructure for both traditional and blockchain-native market participants. The discussion covers the growing convergence between TradFi and Web3, including Deutsche Börse’s investment into Kraken, partnerships with Ondo and stablecoin issuers, and the broader strategic shift towards interoperable digital capital markets. Stefan and Thilo also discuss recent industry developments such as DTCC’s tokenisation initiative and Bullish acquiring Equiniti for USD 4.2 billion.

    A major focus of the episode is collateral mobility and the future reuse of assets across digital markets. Thilo explains why institutional clients increasingly demand more efficient collateral usage, why tokenised securities alone are not enough, and how blockchain technology could fundamentally improve the movement and mobilisation of assets across trading, settlement and custody environments. The episode concludes with a forward-looking discussion on hybrid infrastructure, 24/7 markets, AI-driven financial systems and why the next years may represent a decisive phase in the digitisation of global financial markets.

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    Disclaimer: The content of this podcast reflects the private opinions of the hosts, serves exclusively for general information purposes and does not constitute investment advice. Always remember: Do your own research - inform yourself before making any investment decisions, such as buying Bitcoin. First try to understand what Bitcoin is and how to store it. This podcast does not provide financial advice. Note that the co-hosts might be invested in crypto assets. Read more on our website: Click here

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    From Libra to Legitimacy: Circle's Stablecoin R(e)volution May 17, 2026
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    The journey from Libra via MiCA to AI agents and open financial infrastructure

    In this episode of BFRR, Jonas and guest host Jonathan Koll welcome back one of the most influential voices in digital money: Dante Disparte, Head of Strategy and Global Policy at Circle. Four years after his last appearance on the show, Dante returns for a wide-ranging conversation on how stablecoins moved from regulatory controversy to the core of the global financial system.

    The discussion begins with Dante’s personal path into crypto: from cyber risk and financial resilience to the early blockchain debates, the Libra project, and the hard lessons learned when big ideas collide with politics, regulation and public trust. Looking back, Dante argues that Libra may have been controversial, but it also accelerated the global conversation around digital money and helped pave the way for today’s regulatory clarity.

    From there, the conversation turns to Circle’s evolution. Once mainly known as the issuer of USDC, Circle is now positioning itself as a full-stack financial infrastructure company. Dante explains the role of USDC as a regulated digital dollar, EURC as the leading euro-denominated stablecoin, USYC as a tokenized money market fund, and Circle’s broader technology stack, including the Circle Payments Network and the upcoming ARK blockchain.

    The episode also explores the changing stablecoin use cases: from crypto trading and decentralized finance to cross-border payments, capital markets collateral, store-of-value demand in unstable economies and even agentic commerce, where AI systems may increasingly transact with each other using programmable money.

    Regulation is another major theme. Dante compares Europe’s MiCA framework with the U.S. GENIUS Act, discusses the search for international harmonization, and reflects on the United Kingdom’s opportunity to define its own digital asset regime. The conversation also touches on digital identity, financial inclusion, and why open standards may be essential to bring billions of people into the formal economy.

    A sharp, thoughtful and occasionally funny episode about stablecoins, regulation, institutional adoption and the future of money — with one of the few people who has been at the center of the debate from Libra to Circle.

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    How Europe Is Rewriting Financial Rules for DLT: MISP overview May 10, 2026
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    Will DLT finally be part of EU Financial Regulation?

    In this episode of BFRR – Bitcoin, Fiat & Rock’n’Roll, host Manuel welcomes back Dr. Anika Patz, partner at YPOG and one of Germany’s leading legal experts on digital assets, digital money and financial market regulation. Together they unpack a regulatory development for Europe’s capital markets: the Market Integration and Supervision Package, or MISP.

    Anika explains how MISP is designed to simplify and harmonize European capital market rules, reduce fragmentation across EU member states and give ESMA a much stronger supervisory role. The conversation then zooms in on the DLT Pilot Regime, Europe’s framework for blockchain-based trading and settlement infrastructures. While the regime was meant to enable real-life experimentation with tokenized securities, DLT settlement systems and combined trading-and-settlement models, uptake has remained limited due to product restrictions, volume caps, time limits and a heavy licensing burden.

    The episode explores how MISP could change that. Proposed reforms would raise volume thresholds, remove product limitations and make DLT-based infrastructure a more permanent, scalable option for the market. Anika also discusses how the Central Securities Depositories Regulation may recognize DLT systems and stablecoin-based settlement, why e-money tokens and tokenized money market funds could become relevant for collateral, and where EMIR, MiFIR and MiCA may need alignment.

    Beyond the legal details, Manuel and Anika reflect on the implications for Europe. Can the EU move quickly enough to remain competitive with the US and Asian markets? Should parts of the DLT Pilot Regime be carved out and accelerated? And will European supervision help create an integrated capital market, or add complexity for firms navigating crypto and securities regulation?

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    Satoshi Unmasked, Bhutan's Bitcoin Exit & Europe's Stablecoin Push | Monthly Briefing May 03, 2026
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    Does new evidence identify Satoshi Nakamoto?

    In this April news episode of Bitcoin, Fiat & Rock’n’Roll, Michael Blaschke is joined by Jonas and Dr. Lidia Kurt, CEO of Seturion and BX Digital, to discuss the key developments shaping institutional blockchain, digital money and tokenized capital markets.

    The episode begins with a market overview after a stronger month for crypto. Bitcoin, Ethereum and crypto ETFs regained momentum, while ETF assets under management rose sharply — a signal that institutional allocators are once again moving into the asset class. The discussion also looks at Bhutan’s Bitcoin strategy and why its reported reduction in holdings may be less a loss of conviction than disciplined sovereign treasury management.

    A major part of the episode is dedicated to the renewed debate around Satoshi Nakamoto. From Nick Szabo, Hal Finney and Dorian Nakamoto to Len Sassaman, Craig Wright and Adam Back, the hosts explore the latest theories, including John Carreyrou’s New York Times investigation. Yet the conclusion is clear: Bitcoin’s lack of a known founder may be one of its most powerful design features, especially for institutions assessing founder risk.

    The stablecoin section turns to some of the most important stories of the month. Crédit Agricole is reportedly preparing a euro stablecoin, following earlier moves by Société Générale via SG-FORGE, Banking Circle and ODDO BHF. The hosts discuss why internal treasury may be the ideal first use case, how MiCA shapes the distinction between stablecoins and tokenized deposits, and why Europe needs stronger use cases and liquidity.

    The episode also covers the Swiss franc stablecoin sandbox involving UBS, PostFinance, Sygnum, Raiffeisen, Zürcher Kantonalbank, BCV and Swiss Stablecoin AG, Tether’s move toward a full Big Four audit, and the US debate around the GENIUS Act, the CLARITY Act and stablecoin yield.

    Finally, the conversation moves to institutional tokenization and TradFi market infrastructure: Deutsche Börse Group’s strategic stake in Payward, the parent company of Kraken, the Ondo, Clearstream and 360X partnership, and KfW’s next DLT-based bond using Cashlink, DekaBank, Regulated Layer One and Pontes.

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    From Crypto Access to Institutional Operating System Apr 26, 2026
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    Why the next phase of digital assets is won in operations, not products

    Thomas Langbein, Chief Commercial Officer at Trever, shares his journey from traditional banking and strategy consulting into the world of digital assets, where he recognised early on that blockchain technology could fundamentally reshape capital markets. Drawing on his experience across institutions like Commerzbank, EY, and Accenture, he explains how his exposure to digital transformation and early crypto developments led him to join Trever. Today, he operates at the intersection of traditional finance and emerging infrastructure, helping institutions navigate the complexities of integrating digital assets into their core business. This background sets the stage for a conversation that is less about hype—and more about real-world execution.

    At the heart of the discussion is a key insight: the real challenge for financial institutions is no longer access to digital assets, but their operationalisation. Thomas outlines the hidden complexity behind seemingly simple use cases like crypto trading, highlighting the fragmented ecosystem of trading venues, custody providers, compliance tools, and settlement processes. Trever positions itself as a “digital asset operating system” that orchestrates these components into a unified infrastructure layer, enabling banks and brokers to manage trading, treasury, settlement, and bookkeeping in a compliant and scalable way. This becomes particularly relevant as institutions move beyond isolated pilots and begin building long-term capabilities across multiple asset classes. Looking ahead, the conversation explores how institutional strategies are evolving from a narrow focus on crypto towards a broader view that includes stablecoins, digital payments, and tokenised securities.

    Thomas emphasises that the real benefits of blockchain-based finance will only materialise when both the asset and payment sides move on-chain, enabling more efficient settlement models. As banks gradually integrate these capabilities, the distinction between traditional and digital assets is expected to fade, leading to a unified financial infrastructure. The episode closes with a clear call to action: financial institutions that want to stay competitive should start building their operational foundations now—before digital assets become a core part of mainstream banking.

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    State of Stablecoins 2026: Architecture, Power, and Risk Apr 19, 2026
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    How stablecoins are rewriting global financial architecture.

    In this solo episode of Bitcoin, Fiat & Rock’n’Roll, co-host Michael Blaschke steps away from the usual interview format to unpack a topic that is rapidly moving from crypto niche to systemic relevance: stablecoins. The episode is built around his newly published study with the FERI Cognitive Finance Institute, “Stablecoins: How Tokenized Money is Changing the Global Financial Architecture,” co-authored with Dr. Heinz-Werner Rapp.

    This is not a hype-driven discussion about token prices. It is a deep dive into the monetary layer of the token economy: why tokenized assets need tokenized money, why stablecoins are emerging as the dominant settlement instrument, and why this shift matters for banks, regulators, corporates and policymakers.

    Michael introduces the study’s two-pillar model: tokenized assets on one side, tokenized money on the other. He explains why a digital bond or tokenized fund remains incomplete if settlement still depends on slow legacy payment rails, limited business hours and correspondent banking chains. Stablecoins, in this view, are not just another crypto asset. They are the missing monetary infrastructure.

    The episode also explores the scale of the market, the role of stablecoins in US Treasury demand, the geopolitical implications of dollar dominance, and the widening gap between Europe’s regulatory leadership and America’s strategic push. Michael examines the core risks institutions need to understand: depegs, reserve quality, intermediary fragility, regulatory shocks and run dynamics in 24/7 markets.

    A major focus is Europe’s response under MiCA, including euro-denominated initiatives such as AllUnity and the Kivalis consortium. Looking ahead, the episode also connects stablecoins with the rise of agentic AI, asking what happens when autonomous systems begin to rely on programmable, always-on digital money.

    This is a dense but practical episode for anyone working in institutional DLT, treasury, payments, compliance, digital assets or financial infrastructure. If you want to understand how tokenized money could reshape global finance, this is the episode to start with.

    Blaschke & Rapp (2026) — "Stablecoins: How Tokenized Money Is Changing the Global Financial Architecture," published by the FERI Cognitive Finance Institute (the study that the episode is built around).

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    Lyons & Viswanath-Natraj (2020) — Analyzed the stablecoin peg mechanism and compared arbitrageurs to authorized participants in the ETF market.

    Gorton & Zhang (Yale) — Compared bond-based stablecoins (Tether, Circle) to the Wildcat Banks of 19th-century America, i.e., private money issuers backed by reserves with historically mixed results.

    Ahmed & Aldasoro (BIS working paper, 2026) — "Stablecoins and Safe Asset Prices" — Empirically demonstrated that stablecoin inflows depress three-month US Treasury bill yields by 2.5 to 3.5 basis points (5 to 8 basis points during tight supply periods).

    Diamond & Dybvig (1983) — The classic bank run model showing that coordinated withdrawals can be individually rational even when the institution is fundamentally solvent; applied by Michael to the stablecoin context.

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    From BIS Payments Innovation to GFTN Impact Globally Apr 12, 2026
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    A run-through of Singapore’s BIS innovation Hub Projects and GFTN Solutions Mission with Maha El Dimachki

    In this episode of BFRR, Manuel speaks with Maha El Dimachki, the newly appointed CEO of GFTN Solutions, for a wide-ranging conversation on the future of financial infrastructure, cross-border payments, and the role of innovation in public policy. With a career spanning retail banking, payments, regulation, the UK’s FCA, Pay.UK, and most recently the BIS Innovation Hub in Singapore, Maha brings a rare perspective from both the public and private sides of finance.

    The discussion begins with her journey through the payments industry, long before payments became one of the most dynamic areas in financial services. From there, the episode dives into her work at the BIS Innovation Hub, where she helped lead some of the most closely watched experiments in cross-border payments. Maha explains the thinking behind Project Nexus, which aims to connect domestic instant payment systems across borders; Project Mandala, which explores how compliance checks could become more efficient through privacy-preserving technology; and Project Rialto, which looks at new approaches to FX clearing and settlement using tokenized money.

    What makes this conversation especially valuable is its practical lens. Rather than treating innovation as a buzzword, Maha unpacks where the real frictions in global payments still sit today: compliance, foreign exchange, fragmented infrastructure, and the challenge of coordinating across jurisdictions. She also reflects on why compliance may be the most important problem to solve if the industry wants faster, cheaper, and more transparent international payments without compromising standards.

    The second half of the episode turns to GFTN Solutions and Maha’s new mission: translating insights into real-world implementation. She explains how GFTN, originally known for flagship forums such as the Singapore FinTech Festival and Point Zero Forum, is now expanding into policy development, ecosystem building, and capacity building for governments, regulators, and financial centers around the world.

    This is a fascinating episode for anyone interested in the future of money, the modernization of financial market infrastructure, and the increasingly important collaboration between regulators and industry. It is a conversation about how innovation moves from theory to implementation and why the next generation of finance will be shaped as much by cooperation as by technology.

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    Crossing the Chasm: How Architecture Unlocks Stablecoin Adoption Apr 05, 2026
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    IT architecture is where enterprise stablecoin adoption is won or lost.

    In this episode of BFRR – Bitcoin, Fiat and Rock and Roll, co-host Michael Blaschke speaks with Stefan Arnold, Lead Architect of the SAP Digital Currency Hub, about one of the most important but least discussed questions in institutional digital finance: what will actually enable stablecoins to move from experimentation into mainstream enterprise adoption?

    While much of the public conversation focuses on regulation, issuers, liquidity, and market structure, this discussion goes deeper into the operational reality inside companies. What happens when a corporate treasury team wants to use stablecoins in practice? Where does the process break down? And why is the real bottleneck often not demand, but architecture?

    Drawing on his work at SAP and conversations with enterprise customers, Stefan explains why CFOs and treasury teams are not looking for “crypto products” as such. They need complete, reliable, enterprise-grade payment solutions that are faster, cheaper, more transparent, and easier to reconcile than legacy rails. That means stablecoins only become relevant when they are embedded seamlessly into existing ERP and finance workflows.

    The conversation explores the gap between rapidly evolving Web3 innovation and the slower, highly controlled world of enterprise finance. Stefan outlines the practical blockers that still stand in the way of adoption: missing standards, fragmented custody models, manual reconciliation, wallet complexity, and the challenge of integrating blockchain-based payments into existing payment runs, account statements, and audit processes.

    Together, Michael and Stefan unpack why this “crossing the chasm” moment is now becoming real. Stablecoins are no longer viewed as a fringe experiment. The question has shifted from whether they matter to how companies can get started. From intra-company treasury flows to cross-border payments, the episode shows where early adoption is already happening and what needs to change for the broader market to follow.

    This is a conversation about the invisible infrastructure behind digital money — and why the winners in enterprise stablecoin adoption may not simply be those building the best token, but those building the best bridge between blockchain and core financial systems.

    If you want to understand where institutional stablecoin adoption is actually heading, this episode is for you.

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    Stablecoins, Tokenized Deposits, and the Race for Institutional Rails | Monthly Briefing Mar 29, 2026
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    March 2026 shows the trend clearly: stablecoins are scaling, tokenized securities are moving forward, and institutional DLT adoption is no longer a future story.

    In this March 2026 news episode of BFRR – Bitcoin, Fiat & Rock’n’Roll, Michael Blaschke, Manuel and Simon Seiter, CFO of AllUnity, unpack one of the most important months yet for institutional blockchain, digital money and tokenized assets. While crypto prices remain under pressure and sentiment stays deep in fear territory, the infrastructure story is moving in the opposite direction: regulation is maturing, institutional adoption is accelerating and the rails for the next financial system are being laid.

    The episode begins with a market overview, from Bitcoin and Ether price action to ETF flows and a major milestone for crypto-native banking: Kraken Financial becoming the first digital asset bank in US history to receive a Federal Reserve master account. From there, the conversation shifts into the heart of the episode: the global race to define regulated digital money.

    A central focus is the rise of stablecoins and tokenized deposits. The hosts examine Europe’s rapidly evolving landscape, including AllUnity’s expansion from a euro to a Swiss franc stablecoin and the growing significance of projects such as Kivalis. Beyond Europe, they discuss parallel developments in the UAE and Hong Kong, arguing that a global consensus is emerging around fully reserved, regulated and institution-led stablecoins. At the same time, they explore how banks are defending the deposit franchise through tokenized deposit models, regulatory lobbying and new shared ledger initiatives.

    The episode also covers major moves from payment giants and fintech infrastructure players, including Mastercard, Visa, Stripe and BVNK, as well as the growing importance of agentic payments and machine-to-machine commerce. On the asset side, the hosts review groundbreaking US regulatory progress on tokenized securities, momentum in tokenized money market funds and important developments in Germany, from Börse Stuttgart Digital to Deutsche Börse’s expanding digital asset strategy.

    Overall, this episode captures a defining moment for institutional DLT: a market that may look weak on the surface, but underneath is becoming more regulated, more connected and far more consequential.

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    The Shopify Moment for Tokenisation? Mar 22, 2026
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    How Tokenforge is turning tokenisation into a scalable, product-driven experience

    Tokenisation has long promised to transform capital markets, yet many projects remain slow, expensive, and highly bespoke. In this episode, Moritz Stumpf, founder of Tokenforge, shares a different perspective: what if tokenisation behaved less like a complex financial engineering exercise and more like a scalable digital product? By introducing an “e-commerce mindset,” Tokenforge aims to simplify issuance, automate workflows, and provide intuitive portals for both issuers and investors.

    We explore how this product-driven approach challenges the current state of the market. Instead of focusing purely on infrastructure, Tokenforge emphasises distribution, user experience, and cost efficiency — key ingredients that have driven scale in other industries. The conversation dives into where today’s tokenisation efforts fall short, how automation can coexist with regulatory requirements, and what it takes to move from isolated pilot projects to real adoption.

    Finally, we turn to Tokenforge’s recent launch of the TKFG token on Base and Aerodrome, unpacking the strategic thinking behind it. Is this about incentives, ecosystem building, or a broader shift toward crypto-native growth models? The discussion highlights the opportunities — and tensions — of combining institutional ambitions with token-based strategies, offering a forward-looking view on how tokenisation might truly scale.

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