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    BiggerPockets Real Estate Podcast

    Want financial freedom? Dave Meyer and Henry Washington teach proven real estate strategies and share candid conversations with everyday investors building wealth in today’s market.

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    10 Deadly Mistakes Real Estate Investors Make with Brandon and David May 29, 2020
    Show notes

    After yesterday's deep dive interview discussing 2 disastrous flip projects, we have a solo show for you today.

    And the title says it all, really.

    Brandon and David boiled down nearly 400 podcast episodes, countless forum threads, books, and real-life conversations, and their own missteps and now present: the Top 10 Ways Real Estate Investors Lose Money.

    These aren't the only ways to go wrong in this business, but at some point you're in danger of falling into at least one of these traps.

    So, what did we miss? Let us know in the forums, the comments section on our show notes, or in the Official BiggerPockets Facebook Group. And be sure to subscribe to the BiggerPockets Real Estate Podcast so you won't miss an episode.

    In This Episode We Cover:

    • Focus vs. spreading yourself too thin
    • The #1 way to lose money that you haven't thought of
    • Managing the people who manage your asset
    • What David calls "Spreadsheet magic"
    • Investing in areas with diverse employment
    • Over-renovating after watching too much HGTV
    • Inheriting tenants from a seller
    • Evaluating real estate agents
    • The myth of "more money down = more safety"
    • And SO much more!

    Links from the Show

    • BiggerPockets Forums
    • Contractor Bid Form
    • BiggerPockets Podcast 287: Putting Together Real Estate Deals Using Creativity Instead of Cash with Shiloh Lundahl
    • BiggerPockets Calculators
    • Be a guest on the podcast
    • Joe Rogan Podcast

    Check the full show notes here: http://biggerpockets.com/show384-5

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    384: Losing $60k on His First 2 Flips so You Won't Have To with Spencer Cornelia May 28, 2020
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    You can put a dollar number on the losses Spencer Cornelia took on his first two long-distance flips... but it's hard to quantify the value of the lessons he learned and is now passing on to you.

    We noticed Spencer's thread detailing his struggles in the BiggerPockets forums and invited him on the show; he bravely accepted.

    In this episode, you'll learn the pitfalls to watch out for when taking on heavy renovations (anywhere, but especially long-distance), how to ensure quality work is getting done, and the dangers of letting projects drag on when you're locked into expensive short-term financing.

    Plus, it's not a total downer... because Spencer's seeing a bunch of success with his new Youtube venture, and plans to continue investing in (less aggressively leveraged) real estate projects.

    Brandon and David add their own perspectives having made some similar errors in their careers, and tomorrow in Part 2 they'll break down the 10 Deadliest Mistakes Investors Make.

    New investors: heed the advice in these two shows! And as always: run your numbers conservatively, know your own risk tolerance, and run deals by trusted advisors before jumping in.

    In This Episode We Cover:

    • What went wrong with Spencer's rehabs
    • How to ensure contractors are doing quality work
    • Incentivizing team members and keeping them accountable
    • How much money he paid in interest and fees to his hard money lenders
    • Functional obsolescence and complications with older homes
    • Why you can't always trust an appraisal
    • "Home buyer turnoffs" and why it's easy to miss them
    • Why Spencer sold and took a loss rather than choosing another exit strategy
    • Why he's not giving up on real estate
    • How you can "go broke buying good deals"
    • And SO much more!

    Links from the Show

    • BiggerPockets Forums
    • BiggerPockets Bookstore
    • BiggerPockets Podcast
    • BiggerPockets Calculators
    • Famous Four Analysis
    • BiggerPockets Podcast 125: The Key to Business Success with Bestselling Author of The E-Myth Michael Gerber
    • Pace Morby's Youtube Channel
    • BiggerPockets Pro Replay
    • BiggerPockets Webinars
    • BiggerPockets Pro

    Check the full show notes here: http://biggerpockets.com/show384

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    383: Finding Your Perfect Partner and the Top 6 Factors When Choosing a Market with Ben Leybovich & Sam Grooms May 21, 2020
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    Interested in someday making the leap to bigger investments? Don't miss this one!

    Ben Leybovich and Sam Grooms join us for a high-level conversation about how they transitioned from flips and smaller assets to 100-plus-unit, value-add multifamily deals.

    Since the first part of this show was recorded pre-coronavirus, we brought the guys back on to hear their thoughts on today's market and get an update on how their business is doing amid the volatility (spoiler: pretty well!).

    In This Episode We Cover:

    • Finding the perfect partner for you
    • The 6 factors they look at when analyzing a market
    • Why Sam & Ben keep such a large reserve fund
    • Why investors sometimes overvalue cash flow
    • Why they like the Phoenix market
    • How to establish a competitive edge in real estate investing
    • How they look at multifamily syndication as "a long flip"
    • Why equity protects you
    • Buying insurance against interest rate increases
    • Hiring their own construction team
    • How they're adjusting to COVID-19
    • And SO much more!

    Links from the Show

    • BiggerPockets Forums
    • BiggerPockets Bookstore
    • BiggerPockets Podcast
    • BiggerPockets Calculators
    • BiggerPockets Podcast 382: No Money Down BRRRR Investing with Josiah Smelser (Part 1, Recorded Pre-Coronavirus)
    • BiggerPockets Podcast 382.5: Surviving When the BRRRR Hits the Fan with Josiah Smelser (Part 2, Post-Coronavirus)
    • Deloitte
    • BiggerPockets Conference 2020
    • BiggerPockets Podcast 356: 30+ Rentals (in a Pricy Market) Through BRRRR and Section 8 with Joe Asamoah
    • Open Door Capital
    • BiggerPockets Podcast 313: How to Be Happy AND Grow a Massive Business with Entrepreneur Jesse Itzler (and Josh!)

    Check the full show notes here: http://biggerpockets.com/show383

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    Surviving When the BRRRR Hits the Fan with Josiah Smelser (Part 2, Post-Coronavirus) May 15, 2020
    Show notes

    What happens to a no-money-down BRRRR investor when a pandemic breaks out, lending standards suddenly tighten, private money lenders get skittish, and property values quickly drop?

    Today, Josiah Smelser returns to the show and tells all.

    In Part 1 yesterday, we learned how Josiah built a $4M portfolio by buying, renovating, renting, refinancing, and repeating using both hard money and private money.

    Coronavirus hit him hard. And if he didn't have cash reserves, credit options, and the right mindset, it might have totally wiped him out.

    When the virus hit, Josiah had 10 properties he needed to refinance. It was a perfect storm: His private money lender immediately pulled funds, his refinance bank changed their terms, and property values dropped—all at once—meaning he would need to bring way more cash to the table.

    What happened next? Listen to this episode to learn about how Josiah made it through the nightmare and came out on the other side... with more equity and reduced interest payments.

    Real estate investing isn't all sunshine and rainbows. But if you keep your mind right, plan your exit strategies, and maintain cash and credit lines, you too can survive the curveballs thrown your way.

    In This Episode We Cover:

    • What happens when private lenders want their money back
    • Why Josiah's bank changed the loan-to-value ratio on him
    • Tapping a cash-out refinance in an emergency
    • Trying to sell a property you had planned to BRRRR
    • Taking out loans in your spouse's name to get around loan limitations
    • Key to pulling off a BRRRR in a down market
    • How Josiah saved $750K in interest over 30 years by getting a lower interest rate
    • How an attorney can help you arrange a great partnership
    • Why Josiah looks at this stressful time as a highlight of his real estate investing career
    • And SO much more!

    Links from the Show

    • BiggerPockets Forums
    • David's Instagram
    • BiggerPockets Podcast 234: Tenants, Evictions, & The Dark Side of No Money Down with Ryan Murdock
    • Mindy Jensen's BiggerPockets Profile
    • BiggerPockets Money Podcast
    • Oculus

    Check full show notes here: https://www.biggerpockets.com/show382-5

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    382: No Money Down BRRRR Investing with Josiah Smelser (Part 1, Recorded Pre-Coronavirus) May 14, 2020
    Show notes

    Today we bring you Part 1 of back-to-back episodes with real estate investor/appraiser/author/all-around good guy Josiah Smelser.

    This first conversation was recorded pre-coronavirus lockdown, but it's packed with tips you can put into action today. You'll learn how Josiah solved the #1 bottleneck in his business (capital!), allowing him to BRRRR at scale and rack up rental properties with very little money out of pocket. Even more impressive: he's doing it long-distance (The properties are in Dallas, TX and Josiah lives in Huntsville, AL.)

    And if that weren't enough, the guys go in-depth on appraisals – and the techniques you can use to help appraisers see your side of the story. Josiah's a longtime licensed appraiser, so he speaks from experience... and he shares his playbook for giving yourself the best chance to pull all your money out of your deal.

    If you like what Josiah has to say, then be sure to check it Part 2 tomorrow. We bring him back on, post-COVID-19, to discuss the serious challenges he's faced: lenders pulling out, property values dropping, and even a domestic violence issue at one of his rentals.

    The good news: he made it through. Tune in tomorrow to hear how!

    In This Episode We Cover:

    • Why Josiah sold his properties pre-2008 crash (and why he still regrets it!)
    • Combining hard money and private money to BRRRR with no money out of pocket
    • How Josiah uses "boots on the ground" partners to invest at a distance
    • Why he analyzes 8-10 deals per day
    • Buying houses sight unseen
    • Why BRRRR investors must keep cash reserves
    • How to talk to appraisers (like getting out of a speeding ticket!)
    • Why a property's list price is irrelevant
    • Deals... on the MLS, in 2020?!
    • The square footage trick that's made him thousands of dollars
    • Losing out to a lower offer on a big multifamily deal
    • And SO much more!

    Links from the Show

    • BiggerPockets Forums
    • BiggerPockets Bookstore
    • BiggerPockets Podcast
    • BiggerPockets Calculators
    • Zillow
    • Bring Brandon a Deal
    • Brandon's Instagram
    • Open Door Capital LLC
    • BiggerPockets Podcast 126: From 0 to 400+ Units Through Value-Add Investing with Brian Murray
    • BiggerPockets Podcast 212: Buying a 115-Unit Apartment Complex for No Cash Out of Pocket with Brian Murray
    • GoBundance

    Check the full show notes here: https://www.biggerpockets.com/show382

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    381: 5 Rules for Investing in a Down Market with Tucker Merrihew May 07, 2020
    Show notes

    Can you flip, wholesale, and buy rentals throughout a downturn?

    Yes... IF you heed the advice given out in today's episode.

    Our guest Tucker Merrihew is more than qualified to tackle this subject, having launched his real estate business in Portland, Oregon, in 2008—during one of the worst housing markets of all time.

    In a rare "Double Deep Dive" segment, Tucker walks us through a couple TTM Development projects from 2009 and reveals exactly what he did right and wrong at the time.

    As for the coming months... you'll learn which types of properties to avoid, which price ranges to target, and why renovating old homes can be risky business at this stage of the market cycle.

    Plus, Tucker explains why he underwrites every deal at 3 different prices to make sure it passes his "Oh $#!# Test" if the market goes south.

    Tucker is a seasoned pro with hundreds of deals under his belt, and he shares tons of valuable information for free in this episode. Be sure to subscribe to the BiggerPockets Real Estate Podcast for more tips on investing safely while taking advantage of the opportunities ahead.

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    380: Profitable Landlording in a Crisis with Mike Butler, Chris Clothier, and Dave Poeppelmeier Apr 30, 2020
    Show notes

    Feeling like you're in uncharted territory as a landlord? You're in good company!

    Today's show walks you through how to ethically and profitably manage rentals through the COVID-19 outbreak and beyond.

    Brandon and David sit down with Mike Butler, acclaimed author of Landlording on Autopilot; Chris Clothier, partner at REI Nation (formerly Memphis Invest); and Dave Poeppelmeier, owner of eight houses in Toledo, Ohio.

    You'll get a ton out of this panel discussion, including exact scripts for communicating with non-paying residents, strategies for connecting tenants to government resources, a discussion about "deferment" vs. "forbearance," and much more.

    Mike (500+ units), Chris (6,000+ turnkey units), and Dave (8 properties, mostly student rentals) are all in different markets and at different stages of their investing careers... so you're guaranteed to learn something you can apply in your business today.

    Enjoy this episode, jump on the BiggerPockets Forums to connect with fellow investors, and subscribe to this show in your favorite podcast app so you won't miss us next week!

    In This Episode We Cover:

    • Mortgage forbearance vs. deferment for landlords
    • What % of REI Nation's tenants paid April rent
    • Establishing open lines of communication with tenants
    • What tone to use in conversations about rent
    • Why Dave proactively reached out to his renters
    • Guiding tenants to government resources (unemployment, etc.)
    • Creating contingency plans
    • Mike's "Wendy's walk-up window" for rent payment
    • How to look for better financing in low-interest-rate environments
    • How to stay organized if you're getting government assistance for your business
    • And SO much more!

    Links from the Show

    • BiggerPockets Forums
    • BiggerPockets Webinars
    • BiggerPockets Bookstore
    • BiggerPockets Podcast 224: Building a Process to Buy 17 Deals a Week with Chris Clothier
    • Are Your Tenants Unable To Pay Rent Due To Coronavirus? Here's What To Do!
    • BiggerPockets Podcast 234: Tenants, Evictions, & The Dark Side of No Money Down with Ryan Murdock
    • BiggerPockets Bookstore

    Check the full show notes here: https://www.biggerpockets.com/show380

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    379: What the Numbers Reveal About Today's Rents, Prices, and Top Cashflow Markets with Data Scientist Dave Meyer Apr 23, 2020
    Show notes

    There are plenty of opinions out there about where the real estate market is headed next. But what are the numbers telling us?

    Today we dig into the data with Dave Meyer, BiggerPockets' VP of Growth and Analytics and a real estate investor himself.

    Dave leads BiggerPockets Insights—a Pro/Premium benefit providing current local market data—and he's been looking at data points in the weeks since shelter-in-place orders began to grind the economy to a halt.

    So...

    Why are rents down? Why haven't prices dropped? And what data should investors be keeping an eye on? The guys tackle those questions and much more in today's episode.

    Plus, Dave discusses his list of the country's best 11 cashflow markets adjusted for vacancy and explains what makes them so attractive right now.

    Add in a topical "Fire Round" and a breakdown of Dave's "ski for free" Airbnb scheme, and you've got an action-packed episode sure to bolster your confidence in these uncertain times.

    Check out this episode of the BiggerPockets Real Estate Podcast, and be sure to subscribe to the show in your favorite podcast app so you won't miss the next one!

    In This Episode We Cover:

    • The top cashflow markets in the country for high value and low vacancy
    • 3 data points Dave looks at when analyzing a new market
    • Why housing prices haven't fallen much yet
    • Dave's (cautiously optimistic) forecast on real estate prices
    • What's happening to rents nationwide
    • What "income-to-price" reveals about a market
    • What BiggerPockets Insightsis
    • How new investors can take advantage of this downtime
    • The potential of a population shift away from urban centers
    • How Dave bought an Airbnb in Colorado to "ski for free"
    • And SO much more!

    Links from the Show

    • BiggerPockets Forums
    • BiggerPockets Webinars
    • BiggerPockets Bookstore
    • BiggerPockets Podcast 186: How to Get Your First Few Properties — Even in a Competitive Market with Dave Meyer
    • Air DNA
    • BiggerPockets Podcast 048: Duplex Investing, Finding Great Properties, and Tips for Managing Tenants with Darren Sager
    • BiggerPockets Pro
    • BiggerPockets Insights
    • Newbie Real Estate Investors - What YOU Should Be Doing During This COVID Time
    • BiggerPockets Podcast 315: How to Read Human Nature to Succeed in Life with Bestselling Author Robert Greene

    Check the full show notes here: http://biggerpockets.com/show379

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    378: A $500M Syndicator's View on Today's Market and How to Succeed as a "Hands-Off Investor" with Brian Burke Apr 16, 2020
    Show notes

    With a recession already underway, we're turning to an investor with 30 years of experience, 3,000-plus multifamily units acquired, and one of the sharpest minds in real estate.

    Brian Burke is back today, and he sits down with Brandon and David to offer his interpretation of current events and to guide our audience through how to invest passively without violating Warren Buffett's No. 1 rule: "Never Lose Money!"

    Brian explains how his firm Praxis Capital is navigating COVID-19 and shares a few tips everyday investors can use to fortify their portfolios. We also discuss leverage, how lending practices are changing, and techniques you can use today to safeguard your investments against vacancy and drops in valuation.

    In the second half of the show, Brian speaks to those interested in becoming "hands-off" investors—whether you want to focus on making money in your day job or just don't want to deal with being a landlord. After all, BiggerPockets has 10-plus books on how to actively get deals done... but none (until now) on how to evaluate passive investment opportunities.

    We go over how to meet syndicators, what red flags to look for, how to diversify your investments... and the absolute No. 1 quality to look for in a passive investment (hint: it's NOT the deal itself).

    This episode is packed with deep insights into the current market shift, but it's also a timeless lesson in evaluating syndication opportunities.

    For more info, check out Brian's new book, The Hands-Off Investor: An Insider's Guide to Investing in Passive Real Estate Syndications, and all the great bonus content, too.

    In This Episode We Cover:

    • How Brian got his start raising capital from his cop buddies
    • "Bulletproof vests" investors can use to survive right now
    • Brian's definition of "over-leveraged"
    • Why Brian is currently more focused on operations than acquisitions
    • How government stimulus $ may affect the real estate market
    • How and where passive investors meet syndicators
    • The #1 quality passive investors should look for in a syndicator
    • Why the deal sponsor is more important than the deal itself
    • Diversifying your passive investment portfolio
    • Red flags to look for when evaluating syndicators
    • Why "alignment of interests" is overrated
    • The lesson he learned from a friend who lost her life savings

    Links from the Show

    • BiggerPockets Forums
    • BiggerPockets Webinars
    • BiggerPockets Business Podcast
    • Real Estate Rookie Podcast
    • BiggerPockets Money Podcast
    • BiggerPockets Radio Podcast 003: Getting Started in Real Estate and Raising Money with Brian Burke
    • BiggerPockets Podcast 076: Growing Your Real Estate Company Into a $30 Million Dollar Business with Brian Burke
    • BiggerPockets Podcast 152: Building Wealth and Passive Income with Rental Properties with Ben Leybovich, Brian Burke, and Serge Shukhat
    • BiggerPockets Podcast 315: How to Read Human Nature to Succeed in Life with Bestselling Author Robert Greene
    • BiggerPockets BRRRR Guide
    • BiggerPockets Bookstore

    Check the full show notes here: http://biggerpockets.com/show378

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    377: The Riches Are... on the Radio? How to Dial in Your Marketing & Do 100+ Deals a Year with Chris Arnold Apr 09, 2020
    Show notes

    Today's guest does 125 deals a year in Dallas—from his home base in the Caribbean.

    How? Well, he bailed on direct mail marketing and doubled down on radio ads.

    And when others froze up as the coronavirus spread, his team put in new systems and closed a $23,500 wholesale deal... without even stepping foot inside the house.

    Chris Arnold zigs when others zag, and today you'll learn how he sets up his business so he can consistently work ON it, not in it... while enjoying a great lifestyle in Tulum, Mexico.

    Chris shares timely tips for how to orchestrate deals while maintaining safe social distancing (he even holds "Zoom open houses" with multiple cash buyers at once); breaks down which team member handles each aspect of a transaction; and delivers a fantastic tip for new real estate investors struggling to stay focused.

    Plus—Chris shares how advertising on local radio stations has elevated his home-buying business to new levels. Look, he says, you might prefer podcasts... "but you are not your seller!"

    We play one of his ads on the show, and he guides us through how to research various audiences and negotiate the best rates with stations.

    This show covers it all—from the finer points of buying properties at deep discounts to the mindset shifts Chris has made along the way.

    Check it out, and if you enjoyed this please share it with just one family member or friend. We appreciate you, and we'll see you next Thursday.

    In This Episode We Cover:

    • Why Chris runs his business virtually from Mexico
    • His #1 lead generation strategy: good old-fashioned radio!
    • 3 major demographics he markets to
    • Why "bouncing" is the reason so many newbies fail
    • 3 shifts he's made to adapt to COVID-19
    • How he decides whether to wholesale or fix and flip a property
    • The exact workflow his team uses to work leads from start to finish
    • How he inspects houses remotely
    • Closing deals over the phone
    • How he puts together "Zoom open houses" for cash buyers
    • How he's finding cash buyers who will buy sight unseen
    • How the market is reacting to coronavirus
    • Ways to back out of a contract if necessary
    • And SO much more!

    Links from the Show

    • BiggerPockets Forums
    • BiggerPockets Coronavirus Relief Programs
    • BiggerPockets Webinars
    • How to Build a Deal Pipeline
    • Realtor
    • Zillow
    • Pandora
    • The Multipliers Mastermind
    • BiggerPockets Business Podcast
    • Real Estate Rookie Podcast
    • BiggerPockets Money Podcast
    • GoBundance


    Check the full show notes: http://biggerpockets.com/show377

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