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How to Invest in Real Estate During a Recession (2025 Update) w/J Scott May 09, 2025

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A recessionisn’t a time to panic—it’s a time to build wealth. If you’re listening to this podcast, you’re already multiple steps ahead of the masses that shift their mindset with every news story shouting from the rooftops that a crash, correction, or recession is coming. Savvy investors are sitting, waiting, knowing that if a recession does come, deals usually do, too. Want to build wealth during a recession instead of losing your head? J Scott, author of Recession-Proof Real Estate Investing, is here to show you how.

J says there are three things every investor should be doing before a recession to be in the best position possible. If you follow these three, relatively simple, steps, you’ll be ready to buy deals at a steep discount while average Americans miss out on yet another opportunity to invest. This happened in 2008, and many modern investors regret not having the means to buy back then.

Plus, J outlines the real estate deals that work best in a recession, whether you’re a buy-and-hold landlord or a flipper/renovator. Some homes have serious risks attached to them during downturns, while others offer wealth-preserving (and building) opportunities. Here’s how to invest in real estate if a 2025 recession hits.

In This Episode We Cover

The three things every investor must do to prepare for a recession

Time to sell? Why offloading a poorly performing rental nowcould be a smart move

What to do right now if you have rental properties (and want to keep your cash flow going!)

The business “cycle” and why we may be at the “peak” before the fall

Building your recession-proof strategy so you DON’T deviate from it when times get tough

And So Much More!

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Signs the Housing Market is Becoming “Healthier” in 2025 May 08, 2025

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It doesn’t seem like it, but the housing market could be getting a LOT healthier. After years of buyer-seller imbalance, with rising mortgage rates, low affordability, and frozen transaction volume, there are finally some signs of improvement. But are these changes enough to call the market “healthy”? Or are we still a long way from normal?

We’re back with a bonus audio-only episode, touching on housing market expert Logan Mohtashami’s recent article, Why the housing market is actually much healthier in 2025. Dave breaks down the five key traits of a healthy housing market—and which ones the 2025 market actually meets. Although things have significantly improved from the supply-starved 2020-2022 period, affordability is still a huge issue. Can we somehow make the jump back to a healthy housing market?

We might not be there yet, but things are shifting. So what does that mean for investors? With uncertainty comes opportunities, even if market conditions aren’t “ideal.” Do you NEED to wait for a healthy housing market to jump into the game? We’re breaking it down today!

In This Episode We Cover

Signs that the US housing market is becoming (surprisingly) healthier

Five factors that make up a “healthy” housing market, and where we need to be to get back to pre-pandemic levels

Can we ever solve our affordability crisis and get housing back to reasonable pricing?

Signs we’re going in the right direction, EVEN with prices still high

Why a “healthy” housing market doesn’t always mean a good time to invest (and vice versa)

And So Much More!

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Data Says It’s a Buyer’s Market: Here’s Where the Most Opportunity Is w/Michael Zuber May 07, 2025

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The buyer’s market is back, and opportunities are growing. Inventory is rising, demand is shrinking, and sellers are more motivated to give you a price cut, concession, or repair. This is the time investors have been waiting for, and much of the housing market is already on discount. But which areas are the deepest buyer’s markets, and how are we investing today to capitalize?

BiggerPockets CEO Scott Trench and Michael Zuber from One Rental at a Time join the show to share about deals they recently bought to take advantage of 2025’s housing market conditions. Plus, we give away free data on the markets with the most buyer control. Buyer’s market conditions don’t show up often—and they won’t last long.

Finally, we’re unveiling a brand new, free tool from BiggerPockets that makes it easier than ever to find cash-flowing real estate deals in your area—BiggerDeals! No more scrolling through hundreds of listings. You can see estimated cash flow, cap rate, cash-on-cash return numbers, and more with BiggerDeals!

In This Episode We Cover:

The free, easy way to find cash-flowing rental properties in your area

How to take advantage of the growing “buyer’s market” and which areas buyers have the most control

Two real deals Scott and Michael are investing in right now

How to get massive discounts (and interest rate buydowns) on new construction homes

The four factors that make up a buyer’s market and free data to see if your market is one

And So Much More!

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Financial Freedom in 6 Years by Buying Rentals with Just $6,000 Down May 05, 2025

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This investor turned $6,000 into financial freedom in just six years. He did it in a major market and became a millionaire by age 28 simply by repeating this beginner-friendly rental property strategy over and over again. And, even though he started earlier, you can STILL buy properties like his, at affordable prices, that cash flow, in the same market today. Where is he investing, and how did he scale up so fast? We’re breaking it all down in today’s episode.

Jeremy Taggart saved every dollar from his college internship, knowing he wanted to invest in real estate after graduation. He bought his first house, a small multifamily, for just $6,000 down, lived in it, did some DIY renovations, and increased the value. Thanks to the rent savings, he bought another property the following year—this time, making $50,000 (tax-free!) by fixing it up.

This was just the start of the “rinse and repeat” strategy that would turn Jeremy into a millionaire before he was thirty. But it wasn’t easy. Jeremy was fired from his job, had to start working for himself, and did what many real estate investors won’t. The result? Complete financial independence less than a decade after graduating college. His strategy still works in 2025, but will you use it?

In This Episode We Cover:

The easiest way to buy your first property with low money down (only $6,000!)

Making $50,000 tax-free using the “BRRRR strategy” (buy, rehab, rent, refinance, repeat)

The affordable, cash-flowing, stable real estate market Jeremy invests in (you can, too!)

Is becoming a real estate agent worth it as a real estate investor?

Why Jeremy switched from “cash flow” to “equity” investing for long-term wealth

And So Much More!

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The BRRRR Method (Buy, Rehab, Rent, Refinance, Repeat)

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The Mortgage Rate “Range” to Expect for the Rest of 2025 May 02, 2025

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Here’s the mortgage rate “range” Dave expects to see through the end of 2025.

With so much rate volatility as of late, it’s getting harder and harder to predict when interest rates will rise, fall, stabilize, or go in a completely different direction. Behind all the fluctuations, we can see why this is happening: recessionfears,inflation fears, and declining sentiment toward the American economy. There are a few ways future mortgage rates could go, and today, Dave shares his prediction for the 2025 mortgage rate “range.”

You want lower mortgage rates, we want lower mortgage rates—everyone wants lower mortgage rates—how do we get there?

Dave will spell out the scenario that has to happen for rates to fall, and if you start seeing these warning signs, you might want to prepare. Plus, if the opposite happens, what could cause rates to rise even higher? Finally, Dave shares his plan for investing with fluctuating rates and his strategy for building wealth in a volatile market.

In This Episode We Cover

The mortgage rate “range” to expect in 2025 (and what’s affecting rates now)

Everyone is wrong about the Fed—here’s who actually controls mortgage rates

The recession vs. inflation standoff and why the winner will greatly affect your rate

The “Sell America” trade that’s putting the American economy under severe pressure

How Dave is investing in 2025 and his plan for which properties to buy even with high rates

And So Much More!

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Where We’d Invest in Real Estate in 2025 (If We Could Buy Anywhere) Apr 30, 2025

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Where would we invest in real estate if we could pick anywhere in the country? Even with many real estate markets stagnating, several markets are still primed for serious growth. Today, Ashley Kehr and Henry Washington join Dave to share the best markets to buy rental properties right now. These markets span coast-to-coast, and we curated a list of nine top markets with the highest potential across the nation.

Want an affordable rental property with high rent prices? We’ve got plenty of places on the list. Looking for appreciating cities with super low vacancy so you’re never without renters? There are cities in this episode for you! We’ve even got markets that are great for fix and flips if you’re looking for some quick(er) cash!

We broke the country into three zones: East, Central, and West. Each investor chose a market in each region that they would invest in TODAY, explaining why the market works, which strategy performs best there, the average home price, rent price, and economic data that makes it better than other cities in the region. Don’t know where to invest in 2025? After this episode, you’ll have nine great options!

In This Episode We Cover

The manufacturing “sleeper” market with high employment and low home prices

A “steady” Midwest city with a BIG new investment that could drive up demand

A super affordable Northeast city that is great for house flips (but maybe not for rentals)

Looking for appreciation? This area has below-average home prices, but they could rise quickly

The best market for new builds just outside of a major metropolitan area

HIGH rental demand here and why Dave regrets not investing in this market

And So Much More!

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11 Rentals in 4 Years with SMALL, Affordable Multifamily Properties Apr 28, 2025

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We always say it, but buying just ONE rental property can change everything! For Jesse Walters, a coffee roaster by trade but a cash-flowing investor now, buying his first rental property opened up an entirely new world of not only passive income—but freedom. After his wife became a real estate agent, Jesse noticed the sizable commission checks and thought hundreds of dollars a month in passive cash flow beat wholesaling three-dollar bags of coffee. Was he right?

Jesse didn’t do any expert-level real estate investing moves to get his first deal done. It was 2021—he found a listing for an affordable house, put 20% down on it, and rented it out. That strategy seemed to work, so Jesse did it again, finding another on-market, affordable rental property to purchase. Then, he took it up a notch, purchasing a fourplex (four units) by putting—get this—$0 down! He used a strategy ANYONE with access to a local bank can try, and this property lit the rocket fuel for his portfolio.

Now, he has 11 rental units, runs multiple house flips a year that pay him five-figure checks, and is building a new triplex that will hit the 1% rule from the start. Jesse shares the exact playbook for building a small but profitable rental property portfolio, even with high interest rates, even in a small town, and even if you have no experience.

In This Episode We Cover

How Jesse used his two small rental properties to put $0 down on a fourplex!

“Building” the 1% rule and why brand new rentals may make more sense than existing ones

Why you CAN cash flowwith affordable real estate in small towns

The investor cheat code that Jesse has (thanks to his wife) and why you NEED an investor-friendly agent to get the best deals

How Jesse made $21,000 on a quick, cosmetic, low-cost flip (as a complete newbie)

And So Much More!

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Buying a House Could Get Easier for Millennials. There's Just One Big Problem... Apr 25, 2025

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The housing market could do something it’s never done before—permanently reverse. For as long as home prices have been recorded, they’ve always increased over time. But, with one of the largest generations, the Baby Boomers, aging out, and household formation shrinking as birth rates decline, we could face a new problem—insufficient demand.

This is a huge problem for Millennials and the Gen Z generation since buying a house, the primary asset that makes up the majority of many Americans’ net worth, may not be the same wise financial decision as it was before. James Rodriguez joins us on the show to break down his recent article, The millennial homebuying predicament, and why buying a home may get easier for the younger generations, but it could come with less long-term payoff.

For years, economists speculated that a “silver tsunami” would flood the housing market with inventory. What actually ensued, however, was more of a “silver glacier,” since we’re still millions of housing units short. But once these boomer-owned homes hit the market, will prices grow, stall, or decline? What happens to home prices if the population stagnates or reverses? Does buying a home become a riskier decision? James is on to help us answer these questions and share which homes could be the safest bet for long-term demand.

In This Episode We Cover

The demographic dropoff that could transform the housing market forever

Properties with the most (and least) demand as household sizes shrink

With population concerns, does buying a house become a much riskier decision?

The “silver glacier” that’s slowly melting and bringing inventory to the market

Could immigration solve America’s population replacement problem?

And So Much More!

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Price Cuts Ahead: Zillow Downgrades 2025 Housing Market Forecast Apr 24, 2025

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More price cuts could be coming this year. Zillow just made headlines by revising its 2025 housing market forecast, now predicting home values to drop in much of the United States. But do other top housing market forecasters agree, and if home prices fall this year, does it put you in a better position as an investor to lock down discounted deals? Dave is unpacking Zillow’s new prediction, plus sharing his own take on what might happen next.

This is not the first time Zillow has revised its 2025 housing market forecast. They’ve updated their predictions several times throughout the year, with the newest release being the most negative for home prices. Some markets in the US are even predicted to see drops of up to 10%—other markets could have price growth, while the rest of the nation struggles.

What’s causing the downward trend in home prices? Is it tariffs, inflation fears, signs of a recession, or just too much housing supply and insufficient demand? We’re breaking it down in this episode. If you plan on buying or selling this year, don’t miss this.

In This Episode We Cover:

Zillow’s new 2025 housing market forecast and why price declines seem likely

The best and worst housing markets for home price growth (some could fall by 10%)

What Fannie Mae, Wells Fargo, and JP Morgan are predicting for 2025 home prices

Is this the start of a housing market crash, or just a break for buyers?

What Dave is doing now to pick up more properties as home prices weaken

And So Much More!

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3 Types of Rentals That Make You Rich in 2025 (Actual Deals) Apr 23, 2025

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These rental property deals are making us richer in 2025, even with high housing prices and interest rates. Everyone thinks it’s impossible to find cash-flowing rental properties in today’s housing market, but this is NOT the truth. We’re going to show you three real rental property deals we’re buying in 2025. All of these are being purchased in 2025—these are NOT cheap deals from 2020 with 3% - 4% interest rates. Each one will build major equity, cash flow, or both.

Dave brought backup on this episode—the entire expert panel from the On the Market podcast—to share real deals they’re doing right now. We’ve got three to go through—a $55,000 heavy rehab rental property that will also serve as Henry’s own vacation home, a new build rental property at a super reasonable $214,000 price, and finally, a very creative (but somewhat costly) land-banking deal in Seattle, Washington.

Each of these deals ranges in expertise needed. Some of the heavier rehab projects may require a few years of renovation experience, while Kathy’s new build deal is a profitable rental ANYONE can buy right now. Regardless of your experience, you can copy these strategies and get richer with these rentals!

In This Episode We Cover

Three profitable real estate deals you can do RIGHT NOW in 2025

How to buy a brand new rental property, with a low interest rate, for just around $200,000

How Henry is turning a $55,000 disaster house into a $265,000 top-tier rental

James’s super creative way to make $300,000 on land in high-demand areas

The best investment if you’ve got a busy job, a family to take care of, or just a hectic schedule

And So Much More!

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