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    Beyond Coding

    For software engineers ready to level up. Learn from CTOs, principal engineers, and tech leaders about the skills beyond coding: from technical mastery to product thinking and career growth. Created by Patrick Akil. Powered by Xebia

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    Google AI Lead: The New Rules of Software Engineering Jun 03, 2026
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    Are you ready to adapt to the rapidly evolving rules of software development?

    In this deep dive, Logan Kilpatrick, Director and Engineer at Google DeepMind, breaks down how AI agents, advanced model-product symbiosis, and tools like Gemini 3.5 Flash are fundamentally shifting the engineering bottleneck. Learn how to maintain your competitive advantage by moving beyond the keyboard to focus on problem-solving, architectural taste, and system understanding.

    In this video, we cover:

    • The changing role of the IDE and the rise of agent managers in code generation.
    • Overcoming team bottlenecks in code review and CI/CD test execution execution loops.
    • Why "agent coverage" and context integration are the next big tech stack metrics.
    • Building a bulletproof software portfolio through permissionless open-source contributions.
    • The critical difference between outsourcing intelligence versus outsourcing understanding.

    This episode is for software engineers, tech leads, and computer science students looking to future-proof their careers and reset their ambitions in the era of autonomous engineering agents.

    Timestamps:
    00:00:00 - Intro
    00:00:40 - Code Review Is Software Engineering's Biggest Bottleneck
    00:01:57 - How Amazon and Big Tech Police AI-Generated Code
    00:02:55 - Horizontal vs Vertical Scaling of AI Engineering
    00:04:37 - Why "No Code Reviews" Might Be the Answer
    00:05:22 - Engineering Environments That Give Agents Feedback
    00:06:46 - Why the Harness Matters More Than the Model
    00:07:21 - When Spec-Driven Development Failed and TDD Worked
    00:10:06 - Stop Hooks, Ralph Loops, and Automated Feedback
    00:11:30 - The Guardrails That Gave the Most Value
    00:14:00 - Architectural Constraints That Keep AI Code Sane
    00:15:07 - What Remains a Human Responsibility
    00:17:33 - Why All the Hard Work Moves Upfront Now
    00:18:47 - The Incredible Skill Junior Engineers Should Learn
    00:20:26 - AI Burnout: Why Engineers Are Exhausted
    00:22:42 - Cognitive Surrender: Letting the Agent Take Over
    00:23:25 - The Hand Grenade Problem with AI at Work
    00:24:08 - Outsourcing Code Review to AI Itself
    00:26:39 - Teams That Fully Adopted Spec-Driven Development
    00:29:01 - Can You Rebuild Software From Tests Alone?
    00:30:27 - How to Experiment and Stay Ahead
    00:33:15 - Spying on What Subagents Tell Each Other
    00:33:59 - Step One: How to Start with Guardrails
    00:36:08 - Data Mining Your Session Logs for Patterns
    00:37:00 - Stuck With One Harness? Here's What to Do
    00:38:28 - The One Experiment to Run This Week

    #SoftwareEngineering #AIAgents #GoogleDeepMind


    Addy Osmani: Top Tier Software Engineers vs. AI Agents. The Mindset You Need May 28, 2026
    Show notes

    As AI agents transform software engineering, how do you leverage them without losing your coding skills or risking production disasters? In this episode, Google Cloud AI Director Addy Osmani breaks down the shift from babysitting basic models to mastering advanced agent harnesses.
    Discover how to safely delegate complex technical tasks while maintaining your human engineering identity and setting up secure boundaries for your AI.

    In this episode, we cover:

    • Human Identity vs. Machine Identity: How to avoid the trap of "cognitive surrender" and keep your critical thinking sharp.
    • Stopping the AI "Babysitting" Cycle: How to transition from constant manual oversight to secure agent governance.
    • Rising Abstractions: Why agent harnesses (like Claude Code and Antigravity) are changing how software is built.
    • The Verification Bottleneck: Why coding is easy, but verifying that your agent didn't ruin production is the real challenge.

    This episode is a must-watch for software engineers and tech leaders looking to integrate AI agents into their workflows safely and effectively. You’ll walk away with actionable frameworks to boost your development velocity without letting your own technical edge rot.


    Guest:Addy Osmani is a Director at Google Cloud AI, famous for his work on Google Chrome and focused on AI agents in software engineering.


    Timestamps:00:00:00 - Intro

    00:00:45 - The Reality of "Babysitting" Your AI Agent Setup

    00:01:16 - How to Stop Babysitting and Build Secure AI Agents

    00:02:36 - The Dangerous Mistakes of Uncontrolled AI Experiments

    00:03:39 - Rising Abstractions: From Code to Agent Harnesses

    00:05:18 - Why You Should Delegate Technical Tasks to AI

    00:07:05 - How to Choose the Best AI Agent Harness

    00:08:31 - How to Manage Your Developer Innovation Budget

    00:10:17 - Are We Losing Pair Programming to AI Agents?

    00:12:14 - Cognitive Surrender: The Hidden Threat of Generated Code

    00:13:40 - The Verification Bottleneck: How to Trust AI Code

    00:15:59 - How to Safely Scale Your Personal AI Bandwidth


    #AIAgents #SoftwareEngineering #DeveloperProductivity


    What World Class Software Engineers Do That You Don't May 20, 2026
    Show notes

    After 250 episodes of Beyond Coding, a pattern shows up again and again: the engineers who thrive aren't the ones chasing the newest tool or the cleanest code. They're the ones who learn fast, keep things simple, and understand the business they're building for.

    This special pulls the sharpest moments from recent guests into one conversation about what actually makes a great software engineer in 2026.

    We cover:

    • Why learning is the only skill that outlives every tool, language, and platform
    • How the best architects act more like scouts than cartographers
    • Why "simple is complicated enough" beats clean code dogma at scale
    • How to design systems that evolve instead of trying to predict 10 years out
    • What junior engineers should actually do in the age of AI agents

    For software engineers who want to think clearer, build better, and grow into the kind of engineer companies can't replace.


    Timestamps:

    00:00:00 - Intro

    00:00:17 - Why You Should Increase Your Breadth, Not Just Focus

    00:02:16 - The Only Skill That Survives Every Tech Cycle

    00:04:14 - Buzzwords Are Just Old Ideas in New Clothes

    00:05:26 - What Clients Say vs What They Actually Want

    00:06:45 - The Bad Architects Are Easier to Spot

    00:08:50 - Why Good Engineers Use Boring Technology

    00:11:40 - Stop Building for 100x Scale on Day One

    00:13:13 - The Dogma of Clean Code Is Hurting You

    00:15:15 - Simple Is Complicated Enough at Scale

    00:16:28 - Design Only for the Next Order of Magnitude

    00:18:19 - How to Talk Tech with Non-Technical Stakeholders

    00:19:30 - The $50,000-Per-Hour Container Terminal Lesson

    00:22:11 - Architects Are No Longer Cartographers, They're Scouts

    00:25:18 - Start with a Question, Not an Answer

    00:26:49 - Junior to Senior in the Age of AI Agents

    00:27:29 - Don't Be a Fool with a Tool

    00:29:43 - From Explicit to Implicit Knowledge Economy

    00:30:38 - Use AI to Validate, Not to Generate


    #softwareengineering #engineeringcareer #softwarearchitecture


    What Separates Cracked Software Engineers From Everyone Else May 06, 2026
    Show notes

    Reddit Reacts is back. I'm taking the most controversial takes on software engineering from Reddit and giving you my unfiltered perspective on what's happening, from juniors leveraging AI tools, to the culling of engineers who refuse to adapt, to whether you should take a gap year after a layoff.

    In this episode, we cover:

    • How to become technically "cracked" and what really separates great engineers
    • Why juniors learning with AI have an edge over 20-year veterans
    • The future of writing code by hand (and why fulfillment is shifting)
    • Vibe coding, security holes, and what happens after 6 months
    • The brutal reality of layoffs, gap years, and AI-driven hiring

    If you're an engineer trying to figure out where this industry is going and how to stay competitive, this one is for you.


    Mentioned in the episode:⁠ADP List⁠ - free mentorship from senior engineers


    Timestamps:

    00:00:00 - Intro

    00:00:54 - How to Become Technically Cracked in 2026

    00:05:35 - Will Juniors Who Only Code with AI Get Stuck?

    00:09:26 - Will Senior Engineers Stop Writing Code By Hand?

    00:11:11 - I Vibe Coded for 6 Months and It's a Disaster

    00:15:04 - Why Leaders Demand Screen Sharing on Incident Calls

    00:17:34 - "I Don't Do Anything and Still Get Promoted"

    00:20:33 - Have the Best Engineers Stopped Applying?

    00:25:39 - The Future of Software Engineering in the AI Era

    00:32:15 - Are Most Programmers Actually Bad?

    00:34:58 - Should You Take a Gap Year After a Layoff?


    #softwareengineering #aicoding #techcareers


    DevOps Expert: How Elite Software Engineers Are Using Agents to Get Sh*t Done Apr 29, 2026
    Show notes

    Most engineers are using AI coding tools without understanding what they actually are and it's costing them. Microsoft Certified Trainer Rob Bos has trained thousands of engineers on AI tooling, and he sees the same gaps in fundamentals show up again and again, regardless of seniority. This is what you need to know:

    • What an LLM actually is (and why understanding this changes how you use it)
    • Why prompt engineering isn't optional
    • How AI magnifies your existing technical debt instead of fixing it
    • The 6-month learning curve nobody warns you about
    • Why your role as an engineer was never about writing code
    • The environmental cost behind every prompt

    Whether you're skeptical of AI tools or already living in agent mode, these are the fundamentals that separate engineers who get real value from those who get burned by the hype.


    Connect with Rob:
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/bosrob


    References:Token tracker: https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=RobBos.copilot-token-tracker
    Dev survey: https://www.activestate.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/ActiveState-Developer-Survey-2019-Open-Source-Runtime-Pains.pdf


    Timestamps:

    00:00:00 - Intro

    00:00:43 - The #1 Thing Engineers Get Wrong About AI

    00:02:09 - How Much LLM Theory Do You Actually Need?

    00:03:58 - Why Pair Programming Is Still the Best Way to Learn AI

    00:05:26 - Why Rob Skips Tab Completion and Lives in Agent Mode

    00:07:03 - The "AI Doesn't Increase Productivity" Debate

    00:08:29 - Why Your Real Job Was Never Writing Code

    00:09:14 - The 2-Hours-of-Coding Problem No One Talks About

    00:11:02 - More Code = More Pressure on Your Review Process

    00:12:21 - Why AI Magnifies Existing Technical Debt

    00:13:39 - The Customer Who Couldn't Start AI With Developers Yet

    00:15:11 - The Future Engineer: Reviewer, Not Writer

    00:17:00 - Convincing the AI Skeptic Who Tried It Years Ago

    00:19:17 - LLMs Explained Without Visuals (Attention & Semantics)

    00:22:41 - Why Prompt Engineering Actually Matters

    00:24:20 - From Zero to Hero: The 6-Month Learning Curve

    00:26:18 - Is This Confrontational for 20-Year Veterans?

    00:29:30 - Becoming a Better Engineer by Thinking in Systems

    00:31:26 - Will AI Stop Working as Innovation Slows?

    00:34:26 - The Lost Art of Pair Programming with AI

    00:35:44 - Tribalism in AI Tools (And Why It's Pointless)

    00:37:33 - Tool Agnostic: Start With the Foundations

    00:39:40 - Is the IDE Still Relevant?

    00:40:50 - The Bluescreen Story That Changed His Mind

    00:41:47 - The Hidden Environmental Cost of AI Coding

    00:44:15 - 36 Million Tokens in 30 Days: What Does It Mean?

    00:45:47 - Running LLMs at the Edge to Cut the Footprint

    00:46:48 - Why You Should Be Allowed to Wait Five Minutes Longer

    00:47:05 - Outro

    #githubcopilot #aicoding #softwareengineering


    OSS Expert: Why World Class Engineers Get Jobs on Easy Mode Apr 22, 2026
    Show notes

    Most engineers approach open source the wrong way. They write code, open a PR, and wonder why it never gets merged. Bruno Schaatsbergen, Terraform core contributor and ex-HashiCorp engineer, breaks down the real craft behind contributions that actually land, and why AI is quietly breaking the ecosystem we all depend on.


    In this episode, we cover:

    • Why pull requests get ignored (and the counterintuitive fix)
    • How AI slop is killing open source from the inside
    • Using AI agents without losing your identity as an engineer
    • Why open source beats a tailored resume in today's market
    • How consistent contributions can reshape your entire career


    If you've ever wanted to contribute to open source but didn't know where to start, this episode gives you a clear perspective from someone who's been on both sides.


    Connect with Bruno:
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/bschaatsbergen


    OUTILNE

    00:00:00 - Intro

    00:01:04 - How Open Source Shaped My Entire Career

    00:02:14 - Why I Take Pride in Every PR I Write

    00:03:16 - Open Source vs Personal Projects: The Real Difference

    00:04:18 - Why Your PRs Get Ignored (And How to Fix It)

    00:05:41 - Know Your Audience: The Counterintuitive PR Hack

    00:06:35 - Dealing With Imposter Syndrome as a Contributor

    00:07:10 - Read Code Like a Writer Reads Books

    00:09:31 - My First Contribution (And How It Changed My Career)

    00:10:51 - Should You Contribute to Open Source Early in Your Career?

    00:12:46 - The Dark Side: When Contributions Become Noise

    00:13:44 - Killed With Kindness: The AI Slop Problem

    00:16:17 - How Maintainers Are Fighting AI Slop

    00:18:02 - How I Actually Use AI Agents in My Workflow

    00:19:11 - Don't Outsource Your Thinking to AI

    00:20:11 - Who's Liable for AI-Generated Code?

    00:21:16 - Earned Rights: Why Trust Matters in Open Source

    00:22:52 - How to Approach People at Tech Conferences

    00:24:52 - Open Source Is Not a Democracy

    00:26:04 - Why Open Source Beats a Tailored Resume

    00:27:12 - Never Contribute With the Goal of Getting Hired

    00:28:38 - The Real Reason Consistency Pays Off

    00:29:30 - Admitting I'm a University Dropout

    00:30:42 - Why I Haven't Contributed in Weeks (And That's Okay)

    00:32:07 - The Trap of Chasing Contributor Rankings

    00:34:32 - Open Source Lets You Work With Anyone in the World

    00:35:52 - Final Advice: Don't Let AI Steal Your Identity


    Veteran Architect: How To Design And Build Systems That Survive Apr 15, 2026
    Show notes

    What separates software that survives from software nobody wants to touch? Nico Krijnen has spent 30 years building systems, coaching teams, and learning why some projects thrive while others quietly become the legacy code everyone avoids. In this episode, he shares why the real work starts after you ship, what actually turns a system into legacy, and why the knowledge in your team's heads matters more than the code itself.

    In this episode, we cover:

    • Why production is where the real learning begins
    • The team composition that consistently delivers results
    • Peter Naur's Theory Building and why documentation alone falls short
    • How knowledge leaving your team turns working systems into legacy
    • Why assuming you're wrong leads to better architecture

    Whether you're a senior engineer rethinking how you build or earlier in your career trying to understand what really matters, this episode will change how you think about software that lasts.


    Connect with Nico:

    https://realworldarchitect.dev


    TIMESTAMPS

    00:00:00 - Intro

    00:01:17 - Why He Keeps Choosing Engineering Over Management

    00:04:01 - Three Seniors Solved in Three Weeks What Management Couldn't

    00:05:14 - The Signals You Miss When You're Not in the Team

    00:06:26 - The #1 Skill Behind Every Successful Project

    00:08:04 - Why Production Is the Starting Line, Not the Finish

    00:10:13 - The Habit Most Teams Skip After Deploying

    00:11:28 - Why the Best Teams Mix Designers and Engineers

    00:14:36 - Finding the Right People for the Job at Hand

    00:17:01 - What Juniors Bring That Seniors Can't

    00:20:57 - How to Handle Ideas You Disagree With as a Senior

    00:24:21 - A Simple Technique to Surface Everyone's Best Ideas

    00:27:09 - What Makes a System Survive Long-Term

    00:30:53 - What Actually Makes a System "Legacy"

    00:35:01 - The Knowledge That Keeps Software Alive

    00:36:06 - Peter Naur's Theory Building: Why Documentation Isn't Enough

    00:40:06 - How Knowledge Loss Is Killing Your Codebase

    00:42:42 - The Hidden Risk of AI Tools for Team Knowledge

    00:48:14 - Why You Should Assume Everything You Build Is Wrong

    00:51:31 - Make Hard Things Easy to Change


    #SoftwareEngineering #SystemDesign #TechPodcast


    Top Microsoft Advisor: "Coding Is Cheap, Software Is Expensive." You're Focused on the Wrong Thing Apr 08, 2026
    Show notes

    Suzanne Daniels is a Top Microsoft Advisor who works with CTOs and engineering leaders across EMEA on developer productivity, GitHub, and AI adoption. Her take: the industry is obsessing over coding speed, but that was only ever level one. The real shift is in who defines the solution, not who writes the code.


    In this episode, we cover:

    • Why the "55x faster coding" marketing misses the point entirely
    • The counterintuitive research showing junior engineers adopt AI faster than seniors
    • "Coding is cheap, software is expensive" and what that means for your career
    • How the boundary between product and engineering is disappearing
    • Why most AI coding tools are 80% the same and what to focus on instead

    Whether you're early in career and struggling to land a role, or a senior engineer rethinking where your value lies, Suzanne breaks down what actually matters when the coding part becomes cheap.


    Timestamps:

    00:00:00 - Intro

    00:01:15 - Is AI Productivity the Whole Story?

    00:03:26 - Why Outcomes Matter More Than Code Output

    00:04:13 - The Real Value Was Never in the Coding

    00:06:06 - The Product-Engineering Boundary Is Disappearing

    00:07:37 - Why Junior Engineers Are Actually in High Demand

    00:09:41 - Research Says Juniors Adopt AI Faster Than Seniors

    00:11:31 - The Rise of Comb-Shaped Engineers

    00:12:32 - The Energy Juniors Bring That Teams Need

    00:14:06 - How Seniors Codify Knowledge for Agents and Humans

    00:16:35 - Advice for Early Career Engineers Right Now

    00:19:04 - Old Principles Getting a New Polish

    00:21:13 - Coding Is Cheap, Software Is Expensive

    00:22:52 - Will Agentic Development Change Your Programming Language?

    00:24:53 - What Even Is an Application in the Agent Era?

    00:28:34 - The Authenticity Paradox of AI-Written Content

    00:30:12 - Why Your AI Output Needs a Human Value Add

    00:32:12 - Is Open Source at Risk Because of AI?

    00:35:09 - When Your Favorite Tool Doesn't Follow You to the Next Job

    00:36:45 - Most AI Coding Tools Are 80% the Same

    00:38:15 - What Engineering Leaders Should Enable Beyond Licensing

    00:42:58 - Should You Leave If Your Company Won't Let You Experiment?

    00:45:16 - Platform Engineering as the Foundation for AI Adoption


    Guest: Suzanne Daniels
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/suzannedaniels


    #SoftwareEngineering #AICoding #BeyondCoding


    AI Expert: Most Software Engineers Aren't Ready for What's Coming Apr 01, 2026
    Show notes

    The role of the software engineer is shifting from execution to orchestration, and it's happening faster than most of us realize. Dennis Vink, Principal Consultant at Xebia, breaks down how he approaches code modernization with AI, why fundamentals and system design matter more now than ever, and what the engineering role is actually becoming.

    In this episode, we cover:

    • Why you need to mature your old codebase before you can migrate away from it
    • How to prove feature parity between legacy and modern systems
    • Why vibe coding without architecture knowledge gives you zero control
    • The shift from execution-focused engineering to orchestration
    • Why Dennis worries about the next generation of engineers

    Whether you're sitting on legacy code at work or wondering how your role as an engineer is evolving, this conversation will make you think about where you need to invest your time next.

    Timestamps:
    00:00:00 - Intro
    00:00:51 - Dennis's Early AI Engineering Assignments
    00:02:23 - Side Projects: Reviving a 20-Year-Old Game in Rust
    00:04:36 - Why Vibe Coding Without Fundamentals Fails
    00:05:15 - The Fundamentals You Need for Code Migration
    00:06:45 - Proving Feature Parity with Automated Testing
    00:08:12 - Writing Tests First as Risk Mitigation
    00:10:13 - How Much Should You Care About Code Structure?
    00:11:18 - Migrating in Small Pieces of Value
    00:12:26 - Will Engineers Still Find Fulfillment in Building?
    00:14:01 - How to Actually Start Side Projects (ADHD Brain)
    00:15:34 - Why Pivoting Is No Longer Painful
    00:16:12 - Prompting as the New Bottleneck
    00:17:23 - Parallelizing Work Across Projects
    00:19:08 - Why System Design Is the #1 Audience Demand
    00:20:19 - AI as a Differentiator for Strong Architects
    00:21:11 - Why the New Generation Should Worry
    00:23:01 - Are Bootcamps Still Worth It?
    00:25:15 - The Shift from Collaboration to Business Understanding
    00:27:56 - Infrastructure as a Core Competency Bet
    00:30:15 - Deterministic vs Non-Deterministic Code Generation
    00:32:16 - Can This Approach Scale to Million-Line Codebases?
    00:34:20 - Why a Finger-Snap Migration Would Scare You
    00:37:01 - Where to Start with Your Own Legacy Codebase
    00:38:43 - Which Languages Do AI Models Struggle With?
    00:40:24 - Building Around Hallucination with Scaffolding
    00:42:30 - Spec-Driven Development as the Future Way of Working
    00:43:30 - Turning a Non-Technical Colleague into a "Developer" in an Hour
    00:46:21 - When the House Is on Fire, That's When You Need Real Engineers


    Projects we discussed:
    Agent designer - hurozo.com
    Game project - Zorlore.com (https://github.com/zorlore/)
    Vibe coded solar system simulation - spacehaste.com

    #SoftwareEngineering #SystemDesign #AIEngineering


    Veteran CTO: How to Think About Your Software Engineering Career Mar 25, 2026
    Show notes

    Most senior engineers don't realize they're stuck until it's too late. The longer you stay, the more people around you have already decided who you are and what you're for. Ian Miell, CTO at Container Solutions, breaks down why this happens and how understanding the system around you is the first step to growing beyond it.

    In this episode, we cover:

    • Why staying too long gets you put in a box (and how to escape it)
    • How your software architecture is shaped by money flows
    • The 30% rule: why you should feel uncomfortable at work and what it means if you don't
    • How to pitch to senior leadership and actually get buy-in
    • Why AI makes distribution the real challenge, not building

    If you're a senior engineer trying to grow beyond your current ceiling, this one is worth your time.


    Timestamps:

    00:00:00 - Intro

    00:00:42 - How to Pitch to Senior Leadership and Get Buy-In

    00:03:26 - Why You Should Feel Uncomfortable 30% of the Time

    00:06:33 - How to Break Through a Seniority Ceiling

    00:08:24 - The Burden of Context: Why Being the Go-To Person Traps You

    00:10:16 - How Ian Became CTO Without Trying To

    00:13:40 - Why a CTO's Job Is Mostly Coaching Now

    00:18:20 - Understanding Incentives: The Key to Navigating Any Org

    00:23:08 - Startups vs. Large Companies: Completely Different Rules

    00:25:00 - Why AI Makes Distribution the Real Problem, Not Building

    00:28:16 - The Hidden Maintenance Risk of Vibe-Coded Software

    00:30:13 - Security and Compliance: More Nuanced Than Engineers Think

    00:36:54 - Where "Architecture Follows the Money" Came From

    00:42:36 - The Wrong Number of Customers: A Systems Thinking Story

    00:47:23 - Why Engineers Think Individually Instead of Systemically

    00:51:53 - How to Start Thinking in Systems

    00:57:50 - How to Create Cross-Pollination in Consulting Teams

    00:59:39 - What CTOs Actually Look for When Hiring

    01:00:34 - Outro


    #softwareengineering #systemsthinking #careergrowth


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