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    Bend Don’t Break

    Bend Don’t Break is a podcast that tells the story of police officers who have overcome significant adversity in their personal and professional lives. Through the power of story, the listener will understand the depth of resilience and personal strength that exists in the men and women who protect our communities 24×7.

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    Latest Episodes:
    Frontline policing: The wear and tear of everyday calls for service Feb 04, 2020
    Show notes

    Edmonton Police Service 20 year veteran, Gary Benoit shares a common story that most first responders can relate to - the impact that day-to-day stress can play on one's health and wellness. Gary shares lessons on facing these challenges head-on, and how to discover your 'why' and pave your path to recovery and self-improvement.

    Mentioned in this Episode:

    Edmonton Police Service

    The 5 Love Languages, by Gary Chapman

    Bring About What You Think About, by Eddie LeMoine

    Oola: Find Balance in an Unbalanced World — The Seven Areas You Need to Balance and Grow to Live the Life of Your Dreams, by Troy Amdahl and Dave Braun

    Emotional Survival for Law Enforcement: A Guide for Officers and Their Families, by Kevin M. Gilmartin


    From a Routine Break-and-End Call to a Dangerous Shootout - Victoria Police Sergeant John Musicco's Story Jan 13, 2020
    Show notes

    In 2015, Sgt John Musicco, a 14 year veteran with the Victoria Police Department, took what started out as a fairly standard break-and-enter call. The events following were anything further from standard. In the 3 ½ years that followed, John went through a process that, to this day, remains a big part of his life. His story is incredibly invaluable to hear and learn from. He shares the significant hurdles he faced, the strategies he used to cope and move forward, his key lessons, and advice

    Key Takeaways:

    [:45] Chief Neil Dubord welcomes John Musicco on to the podcast and kicks off the episode with an easy question: what did he have for breakfast?

    [1:26] About today's guest, John Musicco.

    [1:59] John speaks about his background in policing at the Victoria Police Department.

    [5:48] John tells the story of the significant call that came in November 2014 and the events that followed.

    [14:11] John speaks about what was going through his head at the time of the incident.

    [16:28] John speaks about the days and weeks that followed after the incident.

    [19:41] Chief Neil Dubord explains the general process that follows after a critical injury or death.

    [20:50] John speaks more about his experience following the incident and details the timeline of the event.

    [22:19] Was John back at work during this whole process? And was VPD supportive?

    [23:23] John speaks about the counseling he received.

    [24:26] John speaks about how his family was feeling during this time.

    [25:35] How long was John off work for? And did he take any more work off further down the line due to this incident?

    [27:05] How long did it take to get an answer from the IIO?

    [28ish] Did he feel he went back to work too soon?

    [29:22] John speaks about the moment he broke down and discovered how he was going to start working through it and learn how to cope.

    [33:50] John shares the information he received from the IIO 2 years after the incident.

    [34:57] How is the media reacting to all of this?

    [35:20] Did John know about all the processes he'd have to go through after the IIO?

    [36:35] John speaks about the process of the coroner's inquest.

    [38:15] How was John was able to cope throughout this entire process? What were some of his strategies?

    [41:34] John shares the results of the coroner's request.

    [42:40] Chief Neil Dubord reiterates John's journey, key lessons, and advice.

    [45:53] Aaron Hill chimes in to speak about his own experience with a similar incident.

    [46:55] John gives his advice on letting your family in on the whole process.

    [47:53] Chief Neil Dubord highlights some more key lessons from John's story.

    [49:15] Chief Neil Dubord summarizes John's key strategies.

    [49:36] Chief Neil Dubord thanks John for telling his story on the podcast.

    [49:45] Aaron Hill comments on John's story and also thanks him for joining.

    [50:05] Why John wanted to share his story on the podcast today.

    [50:46] Chief Neil Dubord awards John with a commitment coin.

    Mentioned in this Episode:

    Greens Plus

    Victoria Police Department

    IIO

    OPCC

    Looking for More Episodes?

    You can find more episodes of Bend Don't Break on iTunes, Google Play, and most other major podcasting platforms.

    Connect with the Delta Police Department:

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    Visit their website at DeltaPolice.ca.


    Undercover Cop Steps Out Of the Shadows in Fight Against Terminal Brain Cancer Nov 12, 2019
    Show notes

    Today's story is an incredible one — but even more incredible is the resiliency today's guest shows through his journey over the last several years.

    Ryan (Chopper) Masales started as a police officer in 2001 at the Vancouver Police Department. He worked there for 11 years before he transferred to Abby PD in 2010. He spent the major part of his career working as a undercover operator and is well known in the policing world for his knowledge of drugs. Chopper has been a good friend of the Delta Police Department for a long time — helping them through many significant investigations with his incredible undercover work. He's done many wonderful things to help keep our community safe. To this day, he continues to work at the JIBC by delivering lectures to the new recruits related to drugs and UC work.

    On August 26th, 2016, Ryan suffered a seizure while at work. He was rushed to Vancouver General Hospital where a subsequent scan revealed a tumor in the left lower quadrant of his brain. Surgeons were able to safely remove 95% of his tumor but a biopsy of the tumor later revealed the devastating news that Ryan has Glioblastoma Multiforme: Stage 4, Terminal Brain Cancer. The expected survival rate of this form of cancer is no longer than 5 years and Chopper has just passed 3 years living with this disease. Though Chopper has come to terms with the fact that his life will probably not be spared, he has promised his family that he will continue to fight the fight.

    To say today's episode is a powerful one is an understatement. The resiliency Chopper shows and the story he shares cannot be put into words — so we hope you all will listen in.

    Chopper's family has created a Go Fund Me page to help raise $200,000 to get him to Arizona for treatment at the Ivy Brain Tumor Centre.

    If you want to support Chopper in the fight for his life, please go to: GoFundMe.com/f/Fight-Chopper.

    Key Takeaways:

    [:35] About today's incredible episode.

    [:55] Chief Neil Dubord gives his thanks to listeners and shares a special story from a fellow police officer listener.

    [2:25] Chopper and Chief Neil Dubord provide some background on Chopper's career as a police officer as well as his medical condition that first showed up in August, 2016.

    [4:25] Chopper speaks about his career as a police officer and the passion he had for the various positions he held.

    [9:00] Taking a look further into his career, Chopper speaks about his involvement in Project Starboard with DPD in 2016.

    [16:14] Taking us to August 2016, Chopper recalls the day he learned about his brain tumor.

    [25:17] Chopper shares the experience of receiving his diagnosis.

    [34:42] Chopper shares some of his experiences living with glioblastoma.

    [39:56] Chopper speaks about what he has done to manage his glioblastoma and general health.

    [45:00] Chopper speaks about one of his other passions: art!

    [49:34] What Chopper wants his legacy to be.

    [55:00] Chopper's wife, Estelize, speaks about her experiences as a police officer and her perspective on their journey together.

    [1:03:57] Chopper shares a valuable story about Keith Logan from the BC Municipal Undercover Program (BCMUP).

    [1:15:54] Chopper expresses how important social support has been during his journey.

    [1:18:02] Chief Neil Dubord highlights some important pieces from Chopper's story.

    [1:19:35] Aaron Hill thanks Chopper for sharing his story on the podcast and shares his thoughts.

    [1:20:20] Chief Neil Dubord thanks Chopper for joining the podcast and presents him with a commitment coin.

    Mentioned in this Episode:

    GoFundMe.com/f/Fight-Chopper

    Chopper's Instagram: @Choppermxforlife

    FightChopper.Wordpress.com

    Vancouver Police DepartmentCarolyn Sinclair - Manager of the Provincial Overdose Mobile Response Team

    Project Starboard

    Glioblastoma

    Gord Downie

    Marc Roy Tattoo Artist

    Looking for More Episodes?

    You can find more episodes of Bend Don't Break on iTunes, Google Play, and most other major podcasting platforms.

    Connect with the Delta Police Department:

    Follow the Delta Police on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram.

    Visit their website at DeltaPolice.ca.


    Investigating Major Crime with an Oxygen Tank Strapped to her Back: RCMP Cst. Cathleen Falebrinza's story of Resiliency. Nov 05, 2019
    Show notes

    Today on Bend Don't Break, your host Chief Neil Dubord is interviewing someone from the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) — a first for the podcast! Cathleen Falebrinza is an RCMP officer who first was trained at the RCMP training academy, 'Depot', in 2004. When she graduated in 2005, she was posted to Quesnel, British Columbia where she met her future husband, Stuart, who she now has been married to for 14 years and has two stepdaughters with.

    In 2014 however, life as she knew it changed forever. During her time in the Chilliwack Serious Crime Unit she was diagnosed with Pulmonary Fibrosis — a lung disease she was told could not be cured and would get progressively worse until she died from it. Cathleen didn't let this news stop her however. She continued to go to work and was fitted with an oxygen change on her back that she had to change out 3-4 times a day. She soon learned that having a double lung transplant would be the only way to continue living.

    The incredible resiliency and passion Cathleen displays through her story is powerful. Her ability to come back in such a strong and dynamic way after facing such challenges and contribute in such a meaningful way to the community is second to none.

    Tune in to hear about Cathleen's journey as she speaks about how she faced this incredibly challenging and life-changing health concern, how she balanced work, what helped most in her recovery — from her colleague's support to physical therapy, and where she is today with everything.

    Key Takeaways:

    [:40] About today's episode and guest, Cathleen Falebrinza.

    [1:14] Chief Neil Dubord reads a few of the emails they've received about the podcast!

    [3:07] Cathleen speaks about her role as an RCMP officer and her journey to getting to that role.

    [4:29] Cathleen shares what she was experiencing at the time when she was becoming sick and the ultimate deciding factor in her deciding to seek help/get diagnosed.

    [7:13] Getting her diagnosis and what her life was like immediately after.

    [10:08] Cathleen speaks about what this diagnosis meant for her career.

    [11:17] Why did Cathleen immediately decide to go back to work after her diagnosis?

    [12:13] What Cathleen change anything now about this situation if she could?

    [12:35] Cathleen speaks about showing up to work with an oxygen tank on her back.

    [13:12] During this time does Cathleen go to see any counselors or psychologists?

    [13:49] Did Cathleen have any days of, "Why me?" How did she get through them?

    [15:22] Cathleen elaborates on the organ donation odds and process.

    [15:47] After receiving her diagnosis, how long did Cathleen work for?

    [16:45] How did Cathleen receive oxygen when she was asleep at home?

    [17:08] How much did this all cost?

    [17:50] How the organization helped reduce Cathleen's stresses related to her diagnosis.

    [19:29] Does Cathleen believe everyone would receive the same treatment she did from the organization?

    [20:40] How long was Cathleen at home for, waiting for a transplant?

    [20:46] Cathleen tells the story of her transplant experience.

    [25:14] What is Cathleen's husband's memory of the transplant experience?

    [25:35] Waking up with a new pair of lungs: Cathleen shares her experience.

    [28:00] Cathleen speaks about her family support at the time.

    [28:58] What was her doctor at the time saying to Cathleen?

    [29:11] What helped Cathleen's lungs begin to work?

    [29:32] Does Cathleen know who's lungs she has?

    [29:47] How does it feel to have new lungs? How does she feel toward the donor?

    [30:50] 2 ½ years into receiving her new lungs, how does Cathleen feel now?

    [31:47] Back at work, Cathleen speaks about the kind of work she is now doing.

    [32:53] Cathleen speaks about life in general and reflects on the news of her diagnosis and learning that she needed an organ donor.

    [34:24] Cathleen speaks more about the importance of becoming an organ donor.

    [35:00] What Cathleen thinks helped keep her resilient and positive and be able to make it through to the other side.

    [36:05] Chief Neil Dubord highlights some key parts within Cathleen's story.

    [38:03] Cathleen gives a quick shout-out to the colleagues that supported her during this difficult time.

    [38:48] How physical activity had a huge impact on Cathleen's health both physically and mentally.

    [41:00] Chief Neil Dubord summarizes some of the key pieces in Cathleen's story that helped with her recovery and Cathleen brings up a few more key pieces.

    [42:27] Chief Neil Dubord gives his many thanks to Cathleen.

    [43:13] Chief Neil Dubord presents Cathleen with a commitment coin.

    Mentioned in this Episode:

    Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP)

    Bend Don't Break Episode: "The Challenge of a Lifetime: Sergeant Ray Athwal's Wait for a New Heart"

    Pulmonary Fibrosis

    Looking for More Episodes?

    You can find more episodes of Bend Don't Break on iTunes, Google Play, and most other major podcasting platforms.

    Connect with the Delta Police Department:

    Follow the Delta Police on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram.

    Visit their website at DeltaPolice.ca.


    Nearly Losing her Life over a Stolen Chocolate Bar: Victoria Police Department Detective Lane Douglas-Hunt's Journey on Navigating PTSD Oct 01, 2019
    Show notes

    Today's guest is Lane Douglas Hunt. Lane has been a member with the Victoria Police Department since 2008. She has spent most of her career on the front lines in patrol where she was on the Greater Victoria Emergency Response Team for 6 years. Currently, she serves as the Explosives Technician, a Detective in the Special Victims Unit, and a member of the Critical Incident Stress Management Team. Outside of work, Lane and her amazing husband, Jeff, are parents to 2 dogs, 50 chickens, a 700-gallon reef tank, and 5 honey bee hives! When they aren't lifting weights or farming they are riding their Harleys on beautiful Vancouver Island together.

    In this episode, Lane has an amazing story to share that displays incredible resiliency. The incident happened back in 2011 when she was just a junior member at 24 years old with less than 2 ½ years on the job. Her day started off like any other. She spent the morning filing paperwork and was called to a routine call at a 7-Eleven for someone who reportedly stole a chocolate bar. This routine call took a turn for the worst when she was targeted for a spontaneous attack.

    In this powerful story that Lane shares with listeners, she details out all of the events that took place, what she gained from these experiences, and her advice to others. She also speaks about the post-traumatic stress that came with it, but mostly her post-traumatic growth and how she managed to reduce her stress.

    Key Takeaways:

    [:49] Chief Neil Dubord thanks listeners for their recent feedback and ratings on iTunes.

    [1:37] Chief Neil Dubord thanks the team behind the Bend Don't Break podcast.

    [1:57] If you have your own story of resilience you'd like to share on the podcast, you can get in touch with the team at DeltaPolice.ca/Podcast or send them an email at media@deltapolice.ca.

    [2:18] About today's episode and guest, Lane Douglas Hunt.

    [3:09] Chief Neil Dubord welcomes Lane to the podcast!

    [3:26] What did Lane have for breakfast this morning?

    [3:36] Lane's motivation for staying in shape!

    [4:32] What types of movies are Lane's favourite?

    [5:17] Lane gives some background to the story she's going to tell.

    [7:35] Did Lane always want to be a police officer?

    [8:55] Lane begins her story that started with a standard, one-man-job call in January 2011, and ended with her sustaining (what she thought at the time to be life-threatening) injuries.

    [24:55] Lane continues her story from when she got taken to the hospital after her injuries (the support she received from fellow officers, the treatment she received, and what this situation meant for her going forward).

    [30:38] Lane speaks about what she did — as well as what her department did — to help reintegrate her back into work.

    [32:30] Lane tells us about what she went on to do after recovering from her injury.

    [34:26] Lane elaborates on what was happening for her personally and emotionally when she got back to work and explains the PTSD she was experiencing.

    [40:48] Lane speaks about her lowest low: getting removed from the ERT team.

    [44:56] How Lane turned things around for herself (with some help from Brian Willis).

    [48:12] What else played a role in Lane recovering and beginning to feel a lot better?

    [52:37] Chief Neil Dubord highlights some key takeaways from Lane's story.

    [52:10] Lane speaks about the road that got her back to where she needed to be.

    [54:55] How long was Lane off from work the second time? Would she have given herself more time to get back to work in hindsight?

    [57:20] Lane shares how mindfulness played a big part in her recovery.

    [58:44] Chief Neil Dubord summarizes the timeline of Lane's story.

    [59:16] Lane speaks about what happened when she lost her position on the ERT team and was back on patrol in her old position.

    [1:01:55] Chief Neil Dubord highlights some more key takeaways from Lane's story.

    [1:03:13] Aaron joins the podcast and gives his thoughts on Lane's story.

    [1:05:41] Chief Neil Dubord rewards Lane with a commitment coin for sharing her incredible story on the podcast.

    Mentioned in this Episode:

    Bosch (Amazon Prime TV series)

    Brian Willis

    Bob Delaney

    Surviving the Shadows: A Journey of Hope into Post-Traumatic Stress, by Bob Delaney and Dave Scheiber

    Bend Don't Break Episode: "When a Routine Call Turns Life-Threatening: Constable Craig Look's Story"Ten Percent Happier App

    Looking for More Episodes?

    You can find more episodes of Bend Don't Break on iTunes, Google Play, and most other major podcasting platforms.

    Connect with the Delta Police Department:

    Follow the Delta Police on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram.

    Visit their website at DeltaPolice.ca.


    Losing 9 Fingers to Frostbite: The Climbing Expedition that Changed Firefighter Erik Bjarnason's Life Sep 04, 2019
    Show notes

    In this week's episode of Bend, Don't Break another firefighter joins the podcast! Erik Bjarnason is a career firefighter with the North Vancouver City Fire Department, who has recently retired. He is also a long-time member of North Shore Rescue and an avid mountaineer. Erik has climbed mountains in Africa, Europe, Asia, North America, and South America; completed a month-long dogsled trip in the Arctic to the magnetic North Pole; and explored the entire length of the Amazon from the highest point in Bolivia to the Atlantic Ocean.

    Today, Erik is sharing the story of the most impactful expedition he went on that almost turned fatal. The aftermath of this expedition left him missing all of his fingers and one of his thumbs. His family was told to be prepared for the worst.

    Listen in to hear how he overcame challenges related to the loss of his fingers such as alcohol addiction, conflict in the workplace, and ultimately finding ways to alleviate his stress, recovery, getting back to work, and more.

    Key Takeaways:

    [:40] Chief Neil Dubord welcomes Erik Bjarnason to the podcast.

    [1:04] What did Erik have for breakfast today?

    [1:28] Erik speaks about his background as a firefighter.

    [2:30] Erik tells the incredible story of how he lost all of his fingers and one thumb.

    [5:00] Erik speaks about the lasting impacts (of the expedition that took his fingers) on his colleagues.

    [6:09] How long was Erik in the hospital after this expedition?

    [7:38] Erik speaks about the grave news his family received when he was in the hospital.

    [8:19] Erik shares what was going through his mind when he thought he potentially might lose his job due to the injuries he sustained during the expedition.

    [10:04] Erik speaks about some of the dark days during his healing and how he coped.

    [11:13] Erik speaks about where his main support came from and what ultimately helped him get back to work.

    [12:15] How long did it take for Erik to get back to work?

    [12:28] When was Erik's first expedition back?

    [13:10] Erik shares some of his interactions with his colleagues when he got back to work.

    [13:58] How Erik coped with withdrawing from his coworkers and feeling isolated.

    [16:25] What changed in Erik's life to flip the switch and change his life around.

    [18:18] How Erik got the helped he needed through a motorcycle club.

    [22:08] Is Erik still friends with the people from the motorcycle club that helped him get better?

    [21:03] Erik explains the controversial photo and article that destroyed the club overnight.

    [24:12] Did Erik witness anything 'nefarious' at this club from his own experience?

    [24:35] How Erik regained the use of his left hand through Naked Prosthetics.

    [27:31] How Erik developed through these experiences

    [29:04] Erik speaks about his retirement and what he's doing now.

    [30:15] Chief Neil Dubord highlights some of the key lessons from this week's episode.

    [31:19] Why having a purpose makes all the difference in the world.

    [31:55] Erik speaks about how you're the only one who can haul yourself out of your dark days.

    [32:58] Chief Neil Dubord thanks Erik for joining him in this episode.

    [34:07] Aaron Hill joins the podcast and gives his thoughts.

    [35:31] Chief Neil Dubord presents a commitment coin to Erik Bjarnason and thanks him once again for joining Bend, Don't Break today!

    Mentioned in this Episode:

    North Vancouver City Fire Department

    North Shore Rescue

    Naked Prosthetics

    Looking for More Episodes?

    You can find more episodes of Bend Don't Break on iTunes, Google Play, and most other major podcasting platforms.

    Connect with the Delta Police Department:

    Follow the Delta Police on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram.

    Visit their website at DeltaPolice.ca.


    Delta Police Constable Geoff Young's Courageous Story: Overcoming Addiction and Fighting to save his Career. Aug 07, 2019
    Show notes

    Joining the Bend, Don't Break Podcast today is Geoff Young. Geoff is 42 years old and has been with the Delta Police Department for 12 years. Prior to joining Delta Police, he served in the infantry in the Canadian Armed Forces in New Brunswick with the Royal Canadian Regiment. He was also a Corrections Officer at Surrey Pre-Trial Services Centre, as well as a commercial pilot for both land and seaplanes.

    In today's episode, Geoff transparently shares his incredibly courageous story centered around his struggle with opioid addiction. Geoff speaks about the struggles with managing complications from Crohn's disease which led to multiple hospital stays and surgeries, and how the narcotics he was given for 23 months threw his life into a downward spiral.

    From reintegrating work, having tough conversations, the importance of receiving support, to coming out on top of your struggle by 'owning it,' and more — you don't want to miss this week's episode and the key lessons Geoff shares!

    Key Takeaways:

    [:40] Chief Neil Dubord welcomes Geoff Young to the podcast.

    [1:05] Chief Neil Dubord reads a comment from a listener!

    [2:21] Geoff Young begins telling his story, starting with an illness he sought medical attention for as well as managing Crohn's disease.

    [6:30] Geoff talks about the emotional side of his addiction to opioids due to his medical condition.

    [11:03] Geoff speaks about what's happening at work while all of this is going on.

    [12:42] What happened after Geoff wasn't getting enough opioids from his medical prescriptions.

    [15:37] Life after recovery: receiving criminal charges for altering prescriptions, a police act investigation, learning that he was not getting fired, and receiving treatment.

    [17:48] Geoff speaks about what supported him during these stressful times and what gave him the strength to continue.

    [19:28] Did Geoff find it bumpy to get reintegrated back into work?

    [21:57] Chief Neil Dubord highlights some key lessons and takeaways from Geoff's story thus far.

    [22:50] How "owning it" and having the tough conversations was key in Geoff's recovery.

    [26:15] How long has Geoff been back at work? And how is he feeling today?

    [27:25] Chief Neil Dubord summarizes the key lessons from Geoff's story.

    [28:08] Geoff brings up another key lesson from his recovery.

    [30:15] Chief Neil Dubord highlights an important aspect from today's episode.

    [30:58] Where to go through the details of Geoff's trial.

    [31:33] Aaron Hill pops into the podcast and thanks Geoff for coming in and highlights his favorite key takeaway.

    [33:02] Chief Neil Dubord gives thanks to Geoff Young for sharing his story in this episode.

    Looking for More Episodes?

    You can find more episodes of Bend Don't Break on iTunes, Google Play, and most other major podcasting platforms.

    Connect with the Delta Police Department:

    Follow the Delta Police on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram.

    Visit their website at DeltaPolice.ca.


    When a Routine Call Turns Life Threatening: Vancouver Police Constable Craig Look's Story Jul 03, 2019
    Show notes

    On this week's episode, Bend, Don't Break is welcoming on their first guest from the Vancouver Police Department — Constable Craig Look!

    Constable Craig Look is a 16-year member with the Vancouver Police Department and has worked in various sections within the department, with a focus on taking a proactive approach toward policing. Away from work, Constable Look spends his time with his family and volunteer-coaching for his children's sports teams.

    In this episode, Constable Look shares his stories about two significant calls he received within his career. One of them dates back about 15 years ago when he first started out at the department and still impacts him to this day. It began as a standard report call and ended with him being stabbed several times, followed by months of recovery. Constable Look outlines these events in great detail on this podcast, reflects on some of his main struggles and challenges throughout these trying times, and explains some of the primary methods of recovery that helped him get better (both mentally and physically.)

    The purpose of this podcast is all about hearing other people's stories on the force and learning about how they persevered through the challenges they've faced — and Constable Look's is no exception! He shows incredible resilience and truly highlights what the show is all about.

    Key Takeaways:

    [:50] Chief Neil Dubord gives thanks to listeners for tuning in.

    [1:22] Chief Neil Dubord introduces today's episode and guest.

    [1:48] Constable Craig Look introduces himself and speaks about his background with the Vancouver Police Department.

    [4:07] Constable Look tells the story of attending a very significant call early within his career.

    [14:36] The incredible impact these kinds of incidents has on first responders and police officers.

    [15:08] Constable Look recounts what happens next in his story.

    [16:05] Craig reflects on the huge amount of support immediately following the event and the challenges and struggles he faced while recovering.

    [19:07] How long was Craig off work?

    [19:50] Craig speaks about the struggles he faced after the incident such as night terrors and flashbacks.

    [21:24] What did Craig do to help himself recover, both mentally and physically?

    [25:12] How did Craig spend his time alone while recovering?

    [26:33] Craig reflects on the incident and the "what ifs," then tells the story of another significant incident that occurred 9 years later (in 2013).

    [36:54] How Craig managed this 2013 incident.

    [39:32] How Craig used humor to assist in his recovery.

    [41:37] Chief Neil Dubord highlights the unique lessons in Constable Look's stories.

    [42:34] Craig speaks about the written log he kept for his daughter and how it was incredibly therapeutic for him.[44:55] Chief Neil Dubord highlights some of the key learnings from today's podcast.

    [45:29] Aaron Hill chimes in with some of his closing thoughts.

    [46:04] Chief Neil Dubord thanks Constable Craig Look for joining the podcast today.

    Mentioned in this Episode:

    Vancouver Police Department

    Looking for More Episodes?

    You can find more episodes of Bend Don't Break on iTunes, Google Play, and most other major podcasting platforms.

    Connect with the Delta Police Department:

    Follow the Delta Police on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram.

    Visit their website at DeltaPolice.ca.


    Brush with Death: Delta Police Acting Sergeant John Jasmins' Story Jun 04, 2019
    Show notes

    This week, John Jasmins joins Chief Neil Dubord to discuss the challenges he has been through throughout his career.

    John Jasmins started with the Delta Police Department as a Reserve Constable, and has been a regular member with the department for over 13 years. He has worked in Patrol, Street Crime Unit, Uniform Gang Task Force, CFSEU, Youth Section, and Community Policing. Currently, John is assigned to the North Delta District Community Policing Office and is working on his Master of Laws Degree from Osgoode Hall Law School. His wife, Kristina, is also a police officer and is a member of the Surrey RCMP. Together they have 3 children: Dante, Brooklyn and Ari.

    John has been through a number of difficult challenges over the course of his career, with the most recent challenge happening only a month ago (from the time this episode was recorded.) From two collision incidents to heart surgery to being stabbed while intervening in an altercation off-duty — John has been through many traumatic events but has also learned a lot along the way. In this episode, he shares in great detail the stories of each event, what he did to overcome them, how he recovered after each one, and what he did to get back to his normal working routine.

    Key Takeaways:

    [:45] Chief Neil Dubord welcomes John Jasmins on to the podcast.

    [1:15] Chief Neil Dubord opens up this week's podcast with an easy question for John: what did he have for breakfast?

    [2:19] John speaks a bit about his career and then dives into a story of what occured while he was working towards his goal of getting into the CFSEU.

    [6:42] What was going through John's mind when he got into an accident on his first shift in his new position with the CFSEU? And was he getting the support he needed from management at the time?

    [9:20] About John's recovery from the collision accident: how long it took for him to get back to work and the long-term impacts.

    [9:54] How much time did John spend with the Uniform Gang Task Force? What position in the department did he hold next?

    [10:10] What the Street Crime Unit does at Delta.

    [10:47] The second collision John was involved in — this time, with the Street Crime Unit — less than a year later.

    [14:42] The importance of management supporting their police officers.

    [15:20] Did John feel support from management with this second collision?

    [15:42] What could have management done to make John feel more supported during this incident?

    [16:14] How John's career unfolded after this second collision incident.

    [16:44] Now transitioned to the Youth Section at the DPD, what sort of work was John doing?

    [18:30] In the fall of 2015, John fell brutally ill, leading to him needing open heart surgery.

    [20:29] How long was it between the time John was diagnosed and when he had the open heart surgery? How did he manage to keep on working while waiting for the surgery?

    [23:12] The tough choice John had to make with which kind of surgery he wanted to have on his heart.

    [25:52] The outcome of John's surgery, the length of his recovery period, and what he did to stay resilient.

    [28:36] John begins the story of the most recent incident he was involved in.

    [29:38] What were John's first concern after being stabbed? Did he know how bad it was?

    [32:10] Does John have any memories from the ambulance ride or the hospital?

    [33:43] John recounts the conversations he had before his life-saving surgery.

    [36:18] About John's recovery post-surgery.

    [37:21] What helped John from the organization to overcome these incidents and what he did, himself, to overcome these challenges.

    [39:22] Chief Neil Dubord turns it over to Constable Aaron Hill, who speaks about becoming the victor in these kinds of situations; not the victim.

    [41:01] John shares some final pieces of wisdom about the lessons he has learned.

    [42:20] Chief Neil Dubord thanks John for joining him this episode!

    Mentioned in this Episode:

    Bend Don't Break Episode: "The Challenge of a Lifetime: Sergeant Ray Athwal's Wait for a New Heart"

    Bend Don't Break Episode: "On the Brink of Losing Your Job, Your Health, and Your Father: Constable Aaron Hill's Lesson in Resiliency"

    Looking for More Episodes?

    You can find more episodes of Bend Don't Break on iTunes, Google Play, and most other major podcasting platforms.

    Connect with the Delta Police Department:

    Follow the Delta Police on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram.

    Visit their website at DeltaPolice.ca.


    Retired Abbotsford Police Chief Bob Rich's Story of Leading through Traumatic Events and Organizational Crisis. May 01, 2019
    Show notes

    This week, Bob Rich joins the podcast! Bob was the Chief of the Abbotsford Police for 10 years, retiring in 2018. Prior to that, he was with the Vancouver Police for 28 years, finishing his time as the Deputy Chief of Operations.

    Bob's story begins just before 2015. During his time in Abbotsford, the Department faced a number of difficult events — both in the community and within the Department.

    He dealt with two suicides, him and his team being under investigation, a member being charged through an internal investigation, a leadership crisis, and several more traumatic events.

    After a very difficult 2015, Bob and his team changed their focus to "the two M's: the Mission and the Members" after realizing how many first responders are being hurt by the work they do. Since then, Bob has been working to change how we can run our agencies so members stay well throughout their entire career.

    Tune in as Bob shares his key learnings through his experiences, both personally and professionally; how he has stayed intune with his emotions through these extremely tough events; what he has done to help himself and the other members of the organization deal with these tragic events as well as their mental wellbeing; and, overall, what has helped Bob stay together in these trying times.

    Key Takeaways:

    [:46] Chief Neil Dubord welcomes retired Chief Bob Riche.

    [1:51] Discussing the theme of resiliency.

    [3:00] Bob begins his story with the two events that happened in early 2015.

    [7:42] What Bob has learned from these experiences as a leader.

    [8:00] Continuing his story, Bob outlines the next horrible event that followed.

    [9:40] Bob's lesson in this story.

    [10:16] In June, shares the story of another devastating suicide.

    [13:38] Bob speaks about his son, a police officer, and how that impacted him during all of these events.

    [15:05] How Bob has managed to connected to his emotions and vulnerable side during all of these extremely tough events.

    [17:54] What Bob has done in the organization to help its members deal with harassment, tragic events, and their mental wellbeing.

    [27:29] Bob describes his leadership style, the change in their workplace culture after 2015, and the wellness plan that came about in 2017.

    [33:09] Bob speaks the next two significant traumatic events.

    [41:01] What has helped Bob stay together during these trying times.

    [46:50] Chief Neil Dubord covers some of the key lessons and takeaways from Bob's stories on leadership and learning over the last 4-5 years.

    [49:28] Bob leaves the podcast with some final, profound thoughts.

    Mentioned in this Episode:

    Brené Brown's Ted Talk on "The Power of Vulnerability"

    Looking for More Episodes?

    You can find more episodes of Bend Don't Break on iTunes, Google Play, and most other major podcasting platforms.

    Connect with the Delta Police Department:

    Follow the Delta Police on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram.

    Visit their website at DeltaPolice.ca.


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