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162. What Would Jesus Brew? May 01, 2021

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In this episode, Kate does an unforeseen spinoff mini dive into something that wasn't on her radar until recently: highly instagrammable shake/smoothie/tea/coffee shops that are secretly tied to an MLM. With data showing that these 'nutrition shops' lose thousands annually, they have widely become known to be a covert recruiting tactic for Herbalife that are posing as mom & pop shops in small towns and cities alike. With minimalistic branding, instagram-friendly backdrops, little to no ingredient transparency (but appealing drink names), friendly staff, and financial incentives to share on social media, these storefronts provide all the ingredients for the thing Kate hates the most: a manipulative enterprise that preys on vulnerable people in the name of help, nutrition, religion, success, or any abstract characteristic that a person is both unqualified to make and deceptive in their solutions. At one point there is a tangent into numerology & Pythagorus' (of pythagorean theorem fame, obv) cult, but, par for the course on this show. Kate also reads e-mails from listeners who wrote in to spill the tea they once unknowingly drank. Enjoy!

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Works cited:

https://iamherbalifenutrition.com/healthy-weight/herbalife-nutrition-clubs/

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/herbalife-a-pyramid-scheme_b_4220426

https://www.mlmnewsreport.com/herbalife-linked-to-drug-trafficking-money-laundering-in-new-investigative-report/

https://www.plainsite.org/realitycheck/herbalife.html

https://sweetscienceoffighting.com/herbalife-side-effects-and-horror-stories/

https://www.latimes.com/business/la-xpm-2013-feb-15-la-fi-herbalife-latino-20130216-story.html

161. Rachel Hollis & The Rose-Colored Glass Ceiling: Part 3 (Listener Emails) Apr 24, 2021

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This week, Kate concludes the three-part hybrid Rachel Hollis/self-help Venn diagram series by reading listener e-mails that detail interactions with RH's material and reveal a wide variety of personal implications found within her (and other self-help celebrities') messaging. Enjoy!

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160. Rachel Hollis & The Rose-Colored Glass Ceiling: Part 2 Apr 17, 2021

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In this (now) trilogy exploring the world of self-help 'mogul' Rachel Hollis, Kate reads a handful of listener emails and walks through the 4-part Venn diagram she's been building since October, mapping the similarities between cults, conservative religions, multi-level marketing schemes, and large-scale self-help gurus that hold conferences like Rachel Hollis and her former 'hero,' Tony Robbins (remember, "I own you?"). In the first hour, Kate reads emails while analyzing Rachel's RISE conference and how the format compares to historical examples of known manipulative marketing strategies (e.g. low-key mind control). She walks through the psychological tactics tied to her former 'hero,' like aggressively teaching psychotherapeutic concepts in his favor (reframing, limited beliefs), resurrecting trauma, using NLP, hosting LGATs, etc. After many listeners reached out asking for more time to write in, she decided she'd air this episode first, but part 3 will be all e-mails. Overall, Kate's exploring her hypothesis that she can link many large-scale self-help & motivational speakers to being deeply rooted in some form of hybrid MLM/evangelical preaching/self-development movement, that when used for nefarious reasons can turn into cults, but best case turn into snake oil empires making professional manipulators and paraphrasers into multimillionaires at the expense of our mental health, preying on generations of vulnerable people who are being told (and sold) that they are 'Made for More.' Enjoy?

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WORKS CITED

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/20837138

https://www.payscale.com/data/gender-pay-gap#section14

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/janebradley/tony-robbins-self-help-secrets

https://psychology.wikia.org/wiki/Large_Group_Awareness_Training

https://thefincheranalyst.com/articles/lgats-and-fight-club-dissecting-a-delusion/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large-group_awareness_training

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_large-group_awareness_training_organizations

https://www.trajectify.com/blog/2020/2/18/five-lessons-learned-at-my-first-awareness-training

https://innersunshine.medium.com/large-group-awareness-trainings-1-0-good-and-bad-cc8bc22df4e

https://littlevillagemag.com/letter-to-the-editor-rachel-hollis-is-not-the-embodiment-of-female-empowerment/

https://hbr.org/2020/08/institutional-investors-must-help-close-the-race-and-gender-gaps-in-venture-capital

https://austinemedia.com/jim-rohn-biography-and-life-history/

https://freedomofmind.com/multi-level-marketing-and-self-help-cult-groups-learn-the-warning-signs/

https://www.charitynavigator.org/ein/870234341

https://kutv.com/news/local/follow-the-profit-how-mormon-culture-made-utah-a-hotbed-for-multi-level-marketers

http://www.harley.com/writing/large-group-awareness-training.php

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3AZjrFPpIM

https://www.facebook.com/jordanbelfort/posts/motivationmondaynapoleon-hill-said-the-starting-point-of-all-achievement-is-desi/10154207371793465/

https://archive.macleans.ca/article/1962/7/28/the-rosy-world-of-nutri-bio

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbalife_Nutrition

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Rohn

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large-group_awareness_training

159. Rachel Hollis & The Rose-Colored Glass Ceiling: Part 1 Apr 11, 2021

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A Rachel Hollis deep dive. In this episode, Kate dives into the recent controversy surrounding the self-help empire of Rachel Hollis, who is a wildly successful motivational speaker, podcast host, CEO of Rise (and formerly HollisCo), among other things, but is probably most well-known for being the author of NYT best sellers "Girl, Wash Your Face" and "Girl, Stop Apologizing." Kate starts with analysis of the troubling dialogue and caption of her now-deleted video and also now-deleted first apology last week. Then, she discusses the problem with "made for more" culture, especially in the context of the RISE conference and support of the MLM industry that preys on vulnerable people via her prosperity gospel-adjacent business coaching. Then Kate talks through her journey with what she's found troubling about Hollis' content, detailing how she thinks it fits in the broader 2010s self-help zeitgeist of #girlboss culture, and shares her journey in how these movements have shaped her view of feminism and empowerment. In the second episode, Kate will read more listener-submitted emails, wanting to give her take so she can open up the floor to give her yours. Please submit any feedback, stories of being in the RH fandom, or thoughts on women's self-help to podcast@bethereinfive.com subject line RH. All opinions in this episode are of Kate Kennedy's or listeners that submitted emails to Be There in Five Podcast.

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Works Cited:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/12/style/rachel-hollis-girl-wash-your-face.html

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/janebradley/tony-robbins-self-help-secrets

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/stephaniemcneal/rachel-hollis-girl-wash-face-accused-plagiarizing-quotes

https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/books/how-rachel-hollis--a-texas-mom-of-four--ended-up-writing-one-of-the-years-biggest-books/2018/11/10/59d3e89e-d9e1-11e8-a10f-b51546b10756_story.html

Quote from Tony Robbins' seminars:

https://medium.com/the-awl/im-with-awesome-fire-walking-with-tony-robbins-fcd4a49d8ed

Savvy Writes Books RH Reviews:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9WShNx2HsXRGjj9F593HzA

Black Magic Violin:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4vsND-4wfP8LaCJX6v0wZg

K8lilah (Answering Listener Voicemails, #8) Apr 02, 2021

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This week, Kate answers listener voicemails ranging from a variety of light and heavy topics, such as: Kaylor Purity culture affecting marriage Favorite celebrity rumor/folklore Deux Moi Experiences with Tarot card readers Friendship fallouts on Instagram Kate's current obsession: QuakerTok Best roller rink tunes What to do if a friend joins an MLM

And much more!

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Warm Vanilla Sugar High Mar 26, 2021

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This week, Kate snorkels through a variety of topics, with the core theme being overlooked and/or forgotten internet drama. She discusses Cinnamon Toast Crunch gate, sexism in Consumer Packaged Goods, talks about the role of cancel culture in the Bible, meanders through music with her favorite SAT words, talks about how you know influencers have 'made it,' then dives into one of her favorite internet communities: Candle Culture. From funny/forgotten candle rant youtubers, to her perceptions of Bath & Body Works vs. Yankee Candle vs. Dyptique, to the impact of COVID on the candle industry, aggressive reviews, pretentious descriptions and more -- it's safe to say Kate spends a lot of time *waxing* poetic in this candle-forward episode. She also talks about one of her favorite stories that yielded an exciting period of internet mystery and drama surrounding an epic pop star catfish. Overall, fun, lighthearted, and hopefully fast moving-- Enjoy!

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Under The Microinfluencer (with Ailsa Emmel) Mar 19, 2021

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This week, Kate has the pleasure of being joined by one of her favorite microinfluencers and women's health advocates, Ailsa Emmel from @_happygocurly_. Ailsa and Kate talk about so many topics, from the ups and downs of instagram, to how she got started, to women's health Wednesday, cancel culture, Kate's fears about childbirth, sex ed, and more. Since Ailsa is a Certified Nurse Midwife, a large majority of this conversation is dedicated to discussing women's health, being open about our bodies, and learning more about Ailsa's experience spending her days with different women in some of their most vulnerable moments. Kate loved this episode and conversation and hopes you do too!

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Meghan & Harry Interview Recap Mar 12, 2021

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Kate recaps Meghan Markle & Prince Harry's bombshell interview with Oprah from last Sunday. The intro is new, with recent updates from Buckingham Palace and Kate discussing the British press' reaction, and the remainder of the episode is Kate's raw take from Sunday night right after it aired. If you already listened on Patreon, the first 30 mins or so are new! You can also listen to last night's live show Bar Cart Sports on demand through the end of the weekend - onlocationlive.com/bethereinfive

TW: Suicide

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Trauma-rama Mar 05, 2021

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This week, Kate salutes one of the most iconic magazine series of our time: Seventeen's Trauma-rama. First, she discusses Meghan & Harry's upcoming interview, then does a brief Are You Afraid of the Dark detour, followed by reading from old Seventeen & YM magazines she bought off of eBay from their juiciest embarrassing stories sections. Following that, she reads crowd-sourced 'things that are embarrassing for no reason' anecdotes from listeners and discusses the discomfort of, well, just generally existing. Enjoy!

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Twinkle, Twinkle, S0cc3rA11Star Feb 25, 2021

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This week, Kate does a continuation of last week's episode (Pussycat Dull) since more listeners submitted their tales of cringeworthy attempts to make their crush jealous. They somehow keep getting better. In between stories many of Kate's own anecdotes and insights are shared, from her being cast as a Valley Girl to a broader discussion of sexism in how women are judged for the way they speak. There's also discussions of things like the 00s 'mean girl' culture, a revisiting of Why Men Love Bitches, an argument for not striving for effortlessness, and an update on Childless Millennial, to name a few. Enjoy!

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