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Asterisk/Zvi on California's AI Bill May 28, 2024

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California's state senate is considering SB1047, a bill to regulate AI. Since OpenAI, Anthropic, Google, and Meta are all in California, this would affect most of the industry.

If the California state senate passed a bill saying that the sky was blue, I would start considering whether it might be green, or colorless, or maybe not exist at all. And people on Twitter have been saying that this bill would ban open-source AI - no, all AI! - no, all technology more complicated than a toaster! So I started out skeptical.

But Zvi Mowshowitz (summary article in Asterisk, long FAQ on his blog) has looked at it more closely and found:

https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/asteriskzvi-on-californias-ai-bill

Highlights From The Comments On "The Origin Of Woke" May 24, 2024

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Original post here.

Table Of Contents:

1: Response From The Author 2: Attempted Fact Checks 3: People With Personal Experience At Their Workplace 4: People With Personal Experience In Civil Rights 5: The Origins Of Modern Wokeness 6: Other Countries 7: EEOC Lawsuits 8: Other Good Comments 9: Conclusions And Updates

https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/highlights-from-the-comments-on-the-cf9

Book Review: The Origins Of Woke May 10, 2024

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The Origins Of Woke, by Richard Hanania, has an ambitious thesis. And it argues for an ambitious thesis. But the thesis it has isn't the one it argues for.

The claimed thesis is "the cultural package of wokeness is downstream of civil rights law". It goes pretty hard on this. For example, there's the title, The Origins Of Woke. Or the Amazon blurb: "The roots of the culture lie not in the culture itself, but laws and regulations enacted decades ago". Or the banner ad:=

The other thesis, the one it actually argues for, is "US civil rights law is bad". On its own, this is a fine thesis. A book called Civil Rights Law Is Bad would - okay, I admit that despite being a professional Internet writer I have no idea how the culture works anymore, or whether being outrageous is good or bad for sales these days. We'll never know, because Richard chose to wrap his argument in a few pages on how maybe this is the origin of woke or something. Still, the book is on why civil rights law is bad.

https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/book-review-the-origins-of-woke

Response to Hanson On Health Care May 10, 2024

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Robin Hanson replied here to my original post challenging him on health care here.

On Straw-Manning

Robin thinks I'm straw-manning him. He says:

https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/response-to-hanson-on-health-care

Survey Results: PMS Symptoms May 10, 2024

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In November 2022, Aella posted this Twitter poll:

19% of women without pre-menstrual symptoms believed in the supernatural, compared to 39% of women with PMS. I can't do chi-squared tests in my head, but with 1,074 votes this looks significant. Weird!

Here's another one

Now 72% of people with PMS self-describe as neurotic, compared to only 45% without. Aella writes more about this here, and sebjenseb confirms here. I'm less weirded out by this one, because you can imagine that people feel neurotic because of PMS symptoms, but it's still a surprisingly strong effect.

https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/survey-results-pms-symptoms

Desperately Trying To Fathom The Coffeepocalypse Argument May 03, 2024

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One of the most common arguments against AI safety is:

Here's an example of a time someone was worried about something, but it didn't happen. Therefore, AI, which you are worried about, also won't happen.

I always give the obvious answer: "Okay, but there are other examples of times someone was worried about something, and it did happen, right? How do we know AI isn't more like those?" The people I'm arguing with always seem so surprised by this response, as if I'm committing some sort of betrayal by destroying their beautiful argument.

The first hundred times this happened, I thought I must be misunderstanding something. Surely "I can think of one thing that didn't happen, therefore nothing happens" is such a dramatic logical fallacy that no human is dumb enough to fall for it. But people keep bringing it up, again and again. Very smart people, people who I otherwise respect, make this argument and genuinely expect it to convince people!

Usually the thing that didn't happen is overpopulation, global cooling, etc. But most recently it was some kind of coffeepocalypse:

https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/desperately-trying-to-fathom-the

Contra Hanson On Medical Effectiveness May 03, 2024

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Robin Hanson of Overcoming Bias more or less believes medicine doesn't work [EDIT: see his response here, where he says this is an inaccurate summary of his position. Further chain of responses here and here]

This is a strong claim. It would be easy to round Hanson's position off to something weaker, like "extra health care isn't valuable on the margin". This is how most people interpret the studies he cites. Still, I think his current, actual position is that medicine doesn't work. For example, he writes:

https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/contra-hanson-on-medical-effectiveness

Ye Olde Bay Area House Party May 03, 2024

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[previously in series: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

When that April with his sunlight fierce The rainy winter of the coast doth pierce And filleth every spirit with such hale As horniness engenders in the male Then folk go out in crop tops and in shorts Their bodies firm from exercise and sports And men gaze at the tall girls and the shawties And San Franciscans long to go to parties.

https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/ye-olde-bay-area-house-party

Updates on Lumina Probiotic May 03, 2024

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Lumina, the genetically modified anti-tooth-decay bacterium that I wrote about in December, is back in the news after lowering its price from $20,000 to $250 and getting endorsements from Yishan Wong, Cremieux, and Richard Hanania (as well as anti-endorsements from Saloni and Stuart Ritchie). A few points that have come up:

https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/updates-on-lumina-probiotic

Highlights From The Comments On The Lab Leak Debate Apr 26, 2024

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Original post here. Table of contents below. I want to especially highlight three things.

First, Saar wrote a response to my post (and to zoonosis arguments in general). I've put a summary and some my responses at 1.11, but you can read the full post on the Rootclaim blog.

Second, I kind of made fun of Peter for giving some very extreme odds, and I mentioned they were sort of trolling, but he's convinced me they were 100% trolling. Many people held these poorly-done calculations against Peter, so I want to make it clear that's my fault for mis-presenting it. See 3.1 for more details.

Third, in my original post, I failed to mention that Peter also has a blog, including a post summing up his COVID origins argument.

Thanks to some people who want to remain anonymous for helping me with this post. Any remaining errors are my own.

1: Comments Arguing Against Zoonosis — 1.1: Is COVID different from other zoonoses? — 1.2: Were the raccoon-dogs wild-caught? — 1.3: 92 early cases — 1.4: COVID in Brazilian wastewater — 1.5 Biorealism's 16 arguments — 1.6: DrJayChou's 7 arguments — 1.7: How much should coverup worry us? — 1.8: Have Worobey and Pekar been debunked? — 1.9: Was there ascertainment bias in early cases — 1.10: Connor Reed / Gwern on cats — 1.11: Rootclaim's response to my post

2: Comments Arguing Against Lab Leak — 2.1: Is the pandemic starting near WIV reverse correlation?

3: Other Points That Came Up — 3.1: Apology to Peter re: extreme odds — 3.2: Tobias Schneider on Rootclaim's Syria Analysis — 3.3: Closing thoughts on Rootclaim

4: Summary And Updates

https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/highlights-from-the-comments-on-the-5d7

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