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    Ask the A&Ps

    Experts Mike Busch, Paul New, and Colleen Sterling answer your toughest aviation maintenance questions. Submit questions to podcasts@aopa.org. New episodes are released the first and fifteenth of every month.

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    "This is a classic infant mortality failure" Apr 01, 2023
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    With two important airworthiness directives recently issued for Continental engines and Cessna Cardinals and 210s, Mike, Paul, and Colleen dig deep on the surrounding capacity and safety issues. Then they take calls on the limitations of engine monitors, and how normal can look anything but. Submit your questions to podcasts@aopa.org for a chance to get on the show.


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    Michael has a turbonormalized Bonanza and he’s concerned his system isn’t operating properly. When full throttle on takeoff it overboosts, so he goes to partial throttle, which lowers the fuel flow. The controller and waste gate were both checked with no change. Mike says it’s a very bad idea to limit the manifold pressure with throttle. Continental says overboosting by 3 inches is a non-event. What is a big event is limiting fuel flow. The fuel flow is determined by the upper deck pressure, which could be adjusted. Either way, Mike says that Michael can leave it alone and give it all the beans.


    Paul is shopping for an engine monitor and is wondering if the hosts have any advice. Of course they do! Mike recommends user-programmable alerts. Otherwise they recommend you buy the one that best fits in your panel. A slew of recommendations on how to use it follow.


    Laurie’s engine runs roughly in a certain rpm range unless she leans to peak EGT. The hosts soon learn that she operates from an airport at more than 7,000 feet. Mike thinks it’s likely this is normal behavior because the engine runs too rich at full power at such a high elevation.


    John thinks he might be experiencing morning sickness on his RV-7’s O-360 engine. He is noticing an increase of lead buildup each time he borescopes it. The CHTs are also too low, at around 300 degrees in the winter. He felt the engine was running rough for a few minutes after starting, as well. The hosts look at John’s photos and think his engine is perfect. Paul mentions that so long as the valve seats well, the gunk in the cylinder is fine. They offer a number of ideas on increasing his CHTs.


    Steve is frustrated with his engine monitor because he's experiencing what he believes are nuisance alarms. The issue is that his engine manual and POH have different numbers, and the engine monitor is programmed with the POH numbers. The engine monitor can be reprogrammed, but it’s expensive and requires input from a mechanic. This is mostly an issue with engine monitors that are certificated for primary replacement.


    "The airplane looks like it's having brain surgery" Mar 01, 2023
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    Mike, Paul, and Colleen debate the difference between a bribe and incentive pricing, discuss how much carbon in the oil filter is too much, counsel an owner how to keep his alternator belt on, and reveal what's in their go-bags. Email podcast@aopa.org for a chance to get on the show.


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    Jim is finding a significant amount of carbon in his oil filter after oil changes on his Cessna 182. He wants to know if the carbon is a problem. Mike said the carbon itself isn’t a problem, but it’s indicative of something else that is worth tracking down. He said the oil is getting overheated, carbonizing it. It’s most likely from excessive blowby. They recommend compression checks and borescoping to see if he can find the culprit cylinder.

    John flies a Mooney with an electronic ignition system, and he thinks the airplane is slower since the system was installed. Mike thinks it’s possible it wasn’t timed properly. They see it often because the electronic ignition system is timed differently than a traditional magneto. If the EGTs are up and CHTs are down, that's further confirmation.

    Jim is frustrated with the alternator drive belt on his 182. It comes off the pulleys about once every 10 hours. Paul said it’s very common. Counterbalances on the crankshaft are a potential problem, but a last resort. Grooves in the pulley could also be the culprit, as could excessive play on the shaft on the drive pulley. Paul also suggests trying a solid belt instead of Jim's current segmented version.

    David is trying to make a kit of tools and spare parts to take while on cross-countries, and he is looking for recommendations. Paul said he has two criteria. First is something you’re willing to change. The second is to take any special tools or parts that most shops don’t carry. Mike said he takes common-failure items for the specific airplane. On his 310 he carries a vacuum pump, for example. Colleen said she always carries duct tape and tie raps, a screwdriver in order to take the cowl off, and a first-aid kit.

    Dustin has a controversial question about a recent interaction with a shop. During the buying process of an engine overhaul, an owner found out a supplier offered the shop $2,000 to the shop if the owner went with them. The owner found out thanks to the shop's honest disclosures, but questioned if this is an ethical practice. Mike thinks this is no different than a wholesale/retail markup. Paul said he understands why this feels different, but he thinks it’s legit. Mike recommends asking your shop what they are making on your part, and if you’re not happy with the amount to negotiate it.


    "You may have to go to a different shop" Feb 01, 2023
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    This month Mike, Paul, and Colleen give an owner the ammo he needs to not overhaul his engine prematurely, help console an owner with super hot cylinders--maybe, console another with super cold cylinders, and give cover to a pilot who wants to refill his own oxygen. Send your comments and questions to podcasts@aopa.org for a chance to get on the show.

    Full show notes below:

    Pat’s Diamond has one suspect cylinder. The mechanic said it has failed inspection, and needs to be replaced, but the engine is beyond TBO and they are refusing to fix it without an overhaul. The question hits right at the heart of some of Mike’s frustrations with shops and their lack of evidence-based practices. He suggests lapping the exhaust valve to bring the compression back up, and then keep flying it.


    Kirk wants to refill his own oxygen system, but it’s not covered specifically in preventative maintenance regulations. The hosts asks if you’re allowed to add oil, fuel, and air to the various systems. Of course you can. It’s servicing the airplane. Mike says there is no talk of servicing in the regulations, but of course we all do it legally. They view adding oxygen in the realm of servicing.


    Robbie doesn’t believe his CHT gauge in his Socata TB-10. The factory single probe gauge shows 500 degrees and rarely goes below 400. He’s wondering what he can do to make himself feel more comfortable that it’s a gauge problem. Colleen asks if he smells anything. She smelled burning oil when hers went beyond 420. The hosts agree that given his great borescope photos, and good oil analysis that he’s probably ok. They also suggest checking the engine grounding strap that goes from the crankcase to the firewall. It grounds the engine to the airframe, and without it the probe wire could be finding some interference. The paint would also change color at 500 degrees.


    Will is seeing exceptionally cold cylinder head temperatures on his Comanche. On a recent flight to New York, he saw temperatures in the high 140s during descent. He knows his probes are good, so he’s wondering if there’s a lower limit and if it's hurting the engine. After discussing a number of possible causes, they discovered that Will is going full rich on descent, which is absolutely contributing to the low temps. Mike said that while you may have to enrichen a bit in the descent, if you forget the engine will remind you by running a bit rough. That’s followed by a detailed discussion of leaning for the climb and descent.


    Carl flies a Cherokee 180 and is wondering if flying it on cold winter days with density altitudes below sea level could hurt the engine. The hosts agree that the takeoff mixture setting is so rich that there’s enough of a margin not to worry. Detonation could be a concern in certain experimental engines, but a normal certificated engine has a big detonation margin.


    "There are critters living in there" Jan 01, 2023
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    Did you know things live in jet fuel? These are the fun things you learn being a mechanic. Mike, Paul, and Colleen enlighten us on this strange fact, and tackle questions on leaning, burned exhausts, puddles of oil, and how not to set your airplane on fire when preheating. Email podcasts@aopa.org with your question for a chance to be on the show.

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    Chris owns a Piper Comanche with 1900 hours on the engine, and it that has developed an oil leak of one quart every 2.5 to 3.5 hours. Fuel tank sealant and an air/oil separator didn’t work. Paul says there’s no way he is leaking that much oil from a leak in the crank case. He suspects another issue. Mike said Lycoming has a procedure to slather a sealant on the case seam. Since there’s a lot on the belly Mike thinks it might be going out the breather. He suggests a ring wash.


    Lance flies a Cessna 185 and is worried about his leaning procedure. He’s recently replaced all six cylinders and is concerned his leaning procedure may have caused some problems. He’s worried that by learning until roughness and then enriching slightly he’s in the “red box.” Paul said if the engine is running rough, at least one cylinder has quit firing, so he's very lean at that point. Mike said the GAMI spread should be less than a gallon per hour. The GAMI spread is the difference in fuel flow between when the first cylinder peaks and when the last cylinder peaks. Assuming he only enrichens enough to stop the roughness, and no further, and his GAMI spread is good, he’s likely fine. If the CHTs are all below 400 degrees F and he’s less than 60 to 65 percent power, he has nothing to worry about.


    Chris number two asks about corrosion in fuel tanks. He works on turbine aircraft and often sees a brown staining on fasteners inside fuel tanks and he’s wondering whether it should be replaced. Paul said it’s only when the materials starts to degrade when you need to worry about it. He said a good rule of thumb is that if the part number imprint is still there that it can be left alone.


    Brad is wondering about pulling the prop through prior to starting. The general idea is apparently to move the oil around. Colleen said there’s no truth to any of it. You’ll scrape the oil off the cylinder walls if there’s any left. You can either preheat to heat the oil up on cold days, or you can pre-oil the engine if it’s been sitting a long time. Paul warns against pulling the prop through for safety. There’s no value in turning it backwards, and turning it forward can start the engine if you aren’t careful.


    Barry has a Tiger that had a muffler that lasted a long time when he ran rich of peak. Since running lean of peak or near peak his flame cones have burned out within 400 hours. Colleen talked to a local exhaust rebuilder who said he believes running lean of peak is burning up exhausts. It’s not because of the exhaust gas temperature, per se, but more likely the oxygen content of the flame at those mixtures.


    Jeff had a student with a Cessna 172 that he thinks has a tachometer from a Piper. It was replaced in 1993, and had been correctly signed off every year since. He’s wondering how that happens and what the pilot’s responsibility is in this case. Mike, Paul, and Colleen agree that an IA wouldn’t necessarily catch it on the inspection, although instruments and markings are part of the annual inspection checklist. Paul said he’s mostly concerned with the redline, and not necessarily the green arc.


    "You have two options and a top overhaul isn't one of them" Dec 01, 2022
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    Adam flies a Piper Warrior owned by his friend. On a recent flight he experienced some morning sickness that he was able to resolve. On a subsequent flight the owner had morning sickness as well. The owner is considering a top overhaul. Mike said he has two options, and a top overhaul isn’t one of them. The first is to do a wobble test and the second is to skip the test and go straight to reaming the valve guides. Paul recommends doing only one at a time. He said not to fly it again until the procedure is completed. They’re worried that flying it after the morning sickness could have caused damaged, so a borescope inspection is in order as well. AOPA r


    Kevin flies a Cessna 172XP that he suspects is the slowest one of its kind. It flies about 15 knots slower than book speed, and he’s seeking a remedy. Paul suggests first checking the rigging, specifically to make sure the flaps are completely retracting. If the flap rollers touch the end of the slots before the switch turns off, it will hurt the motor. But if there’s a gap after the motor has stopped, they aren’t full up. Totally ignore the fairing that’s riveted to the cabin, he said. He would also check the lifters to ensure complete motion. Mike suggests that is the airplane climbs at book values, he has a drag problem, but if it climbs worse than book, it’s a power problem.


    Greg is hoping to overcome the supply chain issues by purchasing a “lifetime” oil filter. Being able to open the filter is the best thing you can do to know how the engine is wearing, Paul thinks. Mike thinks the filter inspection, while possible with a reusable filter, would be a messy, complicated job.


    Ken said he heard an adage that you should check your EGTs at 1,000 feet, and then lean in the climb to match those numbers, and he’s wondering about its validity. The hosts all completely agree, and it’s generally how they fly as well.


    Patrick flies a Cessna 170 and he’s wondering why his cylinders have a different CHT limit. Mike thinks the difference is probably due to the fact that CHTs are measured in a different position in his engine than others and the O-300 has a different cylinder design. After a cylinder swap he’s also wondering why break-in procedures sometimes call for changing power settings. Mike said he’s never seen a justification for this practice. He has broken in his engines by running them as hard as he could, keeping in mind cylinder temperature limits.


    Miko maintains his own airplanes and is looking for approved data. He’s struggling to find reasonably priced maintenance manuals. Clearly the manufacturer is the first place to go. Paul uses ATP for his airworthiness directive research. Typically they sell subscriptions, which are quite expensive though. He said you might be able to get a shop to give you their old paper manual because most have transitioned to digital. Colleen also uses McCurtain, which they don’t think exists any longer. Essco is still around and sells digital versions of scanned manuals.


    "All engines deserve an engine monitor in their Christmas stocking" Nov 01, 2022
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    Engines are the focus this month as Mike, Paul, and Colleen talk about valve failures, valve springs, burned valves, and more. And of course we had to have a leaning question. Send your questions to podcasts@aopa.org for a chance to be on the show.

    Full notes below:

    Marius owns a Cessna 172XP that routinely has a rough mag check on run-up. His mechanic is recommending fine-wire spark plugs after finding oil on the plugs. He has since bought them, which set him back more than $1,500. Colleen recently purchased some as well, and thinks they definitely work better.

    Nigel wants to get deeper into condition monitoring on his turbonormalized Bonanza, specifically with the turbo system. Mike said that the turbo controllers almost never fail. Waste gates are fairly problematic. Eventually they’ll start to stick, which you can tell by an inability to properly hold manifold pressure. The turbocharger itself is inspected at each annual. The shaft is checked as part of the inspection, and there should be a little wiggle in the radial direction, but none in the axial direction. Also look for blade scrape and cracks in the flange. Paul also recommends checking turbo system oil inlet and outlet check valves.

    Michael had a rough-running engine when he reduced power. They pulled the exhaust valve and found the keeper groove of the valve was much smaller than it should have been, and he’s trying to figure out what caused the problem. He’s now finding that the third cylinder is also behaving the same way. Mike thinks it almost looks like it’s been ground down. He suspects an installation problem. The hosts recommend pulling the valve covers and springs to check the rest of the cylinders.

    Viatcheslav is wondering about rotator spring failures and how they cause exhaust valve hot spots. He owns two airplanes, one with a Continental O-300 and one with a Continental E-225, neither of which have rotator springs. He's curious how and if his valves rotate without it. The hosts break the news that he does, in fact, own two of the few engines without them. He can continue to watch for hot spots on borescope inspections, and also occasionally lap the valves as a preventative measure.

    Reid is concerned about a burned valve on his 172. He leans aggressively, but doesn’t have an engine monitor, and wondered if his leaning led to the burned valve. His only source of information is the stock EGT gauge. Mike did some research on the Alcor gauge. Most of the Alcor gauges aren’t calibrated, and many don’t have temperature references. Some have an adjustable pointer that the pilot can set. Others have a calibration screw. On those, the manual tells you to lean to peak EGT at an altitude where you can get 65 percent power at wide open throttle, and then set the needle to match. Mike thinks the changes Reid is seeing could just be changes in the mechanism of the gauge. It’s not meant to measure absolute EGT. Furthermore, leaning doesn't burn valves. That's most often caused by a bad set.


    "We're card-carrying members of overthinkers anonymous" Oct 01, 2022
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    Making new parts, protecting parts, replacing parts, and identifying bad parts is the theme of this month's episode. Plus, a spirited discussion on fuel selectors. Send your questions to podcasts@aopa.org for a chance to be on the show.


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    Greg is building an RV-10, and he’s wondering if he should prime all the skins while he builds to ensure there’s good protection inside and out. Mike, Paul, and Colleen disagree on what to do. Paul thinks he should skip the priming and instead spray Boeshield or AV-8 because you can spray it on after the airplane is built. It’s a one-time application. Mike thinks if Cessnas have lasted for decades without being primed, Greg should be ok as well. And Colleen is on the fence. Bottom line: there’s no right answer, just the right answer for each builder.

    Russ is trying to help a friend. His 182R lower door hinge is cracked and the mechanic isn’t any help. Russ owns a machine shop and thinks he can manufacture the part. Mike says that it is important not to create a part that is better than the original. He must create an equal part. Something better would require additional approvals. Paul says it’s important to get the mechanic involved early because he will assume the greatest liability, and must be comfortable installing the owner-produced part. And many mechanics aren’t comfortable installing something without a part number. All agree that the hardest part of making the part will be figuring out exactly what the original material is and how it was made.

    Frank wants to use a synthetic oil in his 182 because he’s had such good results in his car. Mike makes the point that there’s no full synthetic oil on the market. He suggests 15w50, a semi-synthetic, but only because Frank is able to regularly run mogas. Those who only run with 100LL shouldn’t use a semi-synthetic, Mike said.

    Ryan is part of a flying club and they have a Cherokee 140 with an intermittent landing light. He was able to get the light to work regularly by applying a bit of heat to the circuit breaker, which makes him think the breaker is bad. The hosts recommended buying his own breaker and asking the mechanic to replace it. It’s a relatively easy fix. They recommend going to a pull breaker instead.

    Ernest said his mechanic hears a knock, but the hosts all agree that the video clearly sounds like lifter clatter. Mike say to look left, look right, make sure no one is around and pour in some Marvel Mystery Oil, which can reduce lifter clatter. When the lifter doesn’t fully lift there is play in the valve train, which makes the noise. Cleaning the lifter is an option, but it is a lot of work. Paul thinks it’s possible it only happens at lower oil pressures. With normal oil temperatures he should have 80 psi oil pressure at cruise, and not something lower, like 65.

    Alex sparked a spirited discussion on pilot technique. He’s wondering about how to test fuel flow on the ground. Some airplanes call for changing tanks on the ground, others don’t. Colleen thinks it’s ill-advised to switch tanks during the run-up. Paul said the fuel bowl on many carbureted engines contain about 30 seconds of fuel at cruise power. He said you’ll never run the engine long enough on the second tank to properly test it. This led to a long discussion about Cessna’s fuel selector design. Mike said he never moved the fuel selector off of Both in his 182, and furthermore he doesn’t understand why Cessna even made it. While the Cardinal will drain from the selected tank, the 182 doesn’t work the same way. If you burn off the right tank, for example, the fuel will be replaced with fuel from the left tank, and not air. Paul said he would stay on Both if he could. They then debate whether to use the fuel pump when switching tanks, and for many reasons Paul recommends sticking to the POH.


    "I'm a choir boy in the church of lean of peak" Sep 01, 2022
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    Because it's impossible to make it through an episode without discussing leaning, Mike, Paul, and Colleen hit it from two sides this month. A debate about inoperative equipment, and why mechanics reach for the pressurization cart first. Submit your questions to podcasts@aopa.org for a chance to get on the show.


    Full notes below:

    Jay flies a Lycoming IO-540 on an experimental with one cylinder that peaks long before the others. He’s tried everything, including switching injectors. Mike suggests checking the valve lift to make sure the action is as good as the other cylinders. Paul suggests an in-flight manifold leak test to show things that can’t be duplicated on the ground. It works like this: Climb to 5,000 or 6,000 feet where the full power setting is the same as ambient pressure, stay at full rich on the mixture and let the EGTs stabilize. Then lower the manifold pressure by 7 or 8 inches and watch what happens to the EGTs. If one goes up while the others go down, or vice versa, it shows a leak in the induction system.

    Gary is a CFI who wonders about strain on a constant-speed propeller during power-off landing practice. With the engine at idle the hosts think it’s fine to pull the propeller back during gliding. Since his first question was so quick, Mike, Paul, and Colleen decided to give him another, and here Gary wonders if leaning to peak EGT is acceptable to the engine. We know leaning to 50 degrees rich is detrimental to engines, and we know lean of peak is safe if done properly, but little is said about running at peak. Given his comfortable CHTs, Mike said running at peak EGT is totally fine. And Paul said he ran at peak EGT for years in his Piper Twin Comanche with no issues.

    Eric wonders what triggers an overhaul and asks what happens once you go past TBO. Close condition monitoring is essential, says Mike. The two biggest tools are an oil filter inspection for the bottom end, and borescope for the top end. Oil analysis is also helpful, but Mike said the filter inspection is more important. Paul suggests making sure owners speak to their mechanic first to ensure they’ll sign off the airplane if the engine is past TBO. Although there doesn’t appear to be any legal basis to do so, some mechanics refuse to sign off an annual if the engine is past TBO.

    Scott wondered about inoperative equipment and how to decide if it’s ok to fly. Mike points to FAR 91.213D. Because it’s in Part 91 it applies to everyone, regardless of aircraft. It includes a logic flow that details how to deal with inoperative equipment. In order to fly with inop equipment it must not have been required for aircraft certification, in Part 91.205, on the aircraft’s mandatory equipment list, or be a hazard to fly without it.

    Toby has a Cessna 414 and has struggled with pressurization over the years, and he asks if his troubleshooting flow works well. He’s a little frustrated because most mechanics first hook up the pressurization cart, even though in his experience the test usually doesn’t show much. Mike said the cart is used to test the outflow side of the pressurization system because it bypasses the inflow system. Twin Cessnas have a very convoluted inflow side, where tons of things can go wrong. One reason to go straight to the cart is because troubleshooting the inflow side requires digging, Paul said. Troubleshooting mindset also matters. A slow-evolving problem is different than a sudden issue, for example.


    "I don't have a baby monitor on the engine" Aug 01, 2022
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    This month Mike, Paul, and Colleen take questions from owners with round engines, fabric, fire-breathing aerobats, and more. Send your questions to podcasts@aopa.org for a chance to get on the show.

    Full notes below....

    Bruce has an a Continental O-300 and recently replaced all six cylinders. Number four is still running hot, and number six used to run hot. He played with the baffling to reduce the temps on number six, but number four is still around 400 degrees in cruise. He also added a splitter on the top to direct more air. He has checked the induction. By changing the baffling to help cool number six, Mike thinks he has made the problem worse for number four. The plate at the front is there to prevent number six from hogging all the cooling air, he says. When this happens Mike naturally looks at the inter-cylinder baffles, which are easy to mis-position. The first troubleshooting step is to shine a light from below and check if you can see it from above. If so, air can escape and cooling efficiency drops.

    Derek is looking to buy a Maule that’s been sitting in a hangar and he’s wondering how to check the condition of the Ceconite fabric. The Ceconite manual has inspection procedures. Colleen said it’s not the fabric you’re necessarily testing, but the dope. If the dope can block UV light then the fabric is presumably fine. If you push against the fabric and it’s pliable and flexible, that’s good. You can find the manual online https://www.conaircraft.com/_files/ugd/d66f5e_9653c858211f4636b7d4fcbb4787e540.pdf

    Oscar is wondering if safety wire isn’t meant to hold a torque, why don’t we use the same size for everything? Mike said there are three common sizes of safety wire, but almost everything is .032. Paul mentions that turnbuckles are an important exception. AC43.1B Change 1 https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Advisory_Circular/AC_43.13-1B_w-chg1.pdf describes how to safety wire turnbuckles. An interesting and detailed discussion of turnbuckles that has nothing to do with safety wire follows…

    Scott has an N3 with a Wright engine and he’s wondering about leaning. The manual for the engine says not to lean, and he asks whether it would be better to leave it full rich or lean a bit. Mike calls for a vote and says that while in cruise he would lean it to the onset of roughness, and enrichen it only enough to smooth out the engine again. Colleen said she loves leaning and would lean as well. Surprisingly, it’s unanimous and Paul said he would lean as well.

    Bob has an Extra with a Lycoming IO-580 engine. He has noticed that his old Extra, with the same engine and virtually the same airframe, ran much cooler. He said he can barely lean at all now because of temperature limitations. Number five is the hottest, but only by a little. Paul wonders about his leaning technique, which is to lean slowly to find peak. The guidance is to pull much more quickly. The hosts also focus on a cabin heat shroud that’s in the cowling but not hooked up to the cabin. Bob thinks it partially blocks the exit airflow, which is a critical part of the cowling cooling system.


    Live from Airventure 2022 Jul 28, 2022
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    Introducing our first live show from EAA Airventure 2022! Join along as Mike, Paul, and Colleen handle questions on the spot from the audience at the AOPA Program Pavilion.


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