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    Ask the A&Ps

    Experts Mike Busch, Paul New, and Colleen Sterling answer your toughest aviation maintenance questions. Submit questions to podcasts@aopa.org. New episodes are released the first and fifteenth of every month.

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    "Cleaning injectors causes more problems than it solves" Nov 01, 2023
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    How far can you go with preventative maintenance? The hosts discuss this, plus oil-soaked plugs, a strange fuel smell, morning sickness, and more. Email podcasts@aopa.org for a chance to get on the show.


    Full notes below:


    Lamberto has a 152 with oil soaked plugs, and is having to clean them every 25 hours. He wants to fix the problem, not simply deal with it. His mechanic suggests a harsh chemical. He’s tried new plugs without success, the hosts agree his BY plugs are the best for oil-fouling anyway. A solvent won’t help, Mike says. He suggests a ring wash, which involves filling the cylinder with a mild solvent, then pulling the prop through the combustion cycle. That forces the fluid through and cleans little by little. If you try to pull the prop through it’s probably too late and the cylinder needs to be removed and the rings probably replaced. Colleen likens it to flossing.


    Darin is curious about how far he can push preventative maintenance. His thinking is that if you can clean and gap spark plugs then you should be able to do the same to fuel injectors, and so on. Mike says it’s not entirely clear. The FAA has issued a letter of interpretation basically saying that the list in Part 43 is a list of examples, not an exclusive list.


    Cristopher flies a 172XP in a club in Germany and wants to fly beyond TBO, and also solve an oil issue. He thinks it’s coming out of the induction system drain. The only way that can happen is via the intake valve. They recommend borescoping the cylinder to confirm the leak.


    Callum has a Bonanza and smells fuel in the cockpit when transitioning to lean of peak. Paul suggests checking the throttle body area behind the panel. The mechanical changes when you lean can cause it. Mike knows of another airplane where this has happened, and they isolated it to a leak in the fuel selector. When you lean a bunch of fuel goes back through the return lines, he said, and any leak could show at this point.


    Jason has a 182 with an O-470 with a cylinder that is acting up on start when it’s cold. His engine monitor shows very low EGT when starting, and takes as much as a minute to 90 seconds to come to temperature. The CHTs are also much lower. The hosts agree that he definitely has the symptoms of morning sickness, and it’s time to ream it.


    "Why don't you just fix the problem?" Oct 16, 2023
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    How cold is too cold the fly? Mike, Paul, and Colleen answer this question, and help an owner solve radio problems, advise an owner to fix his probes, and describe the process to become an A&P in the latest episode. Send your questions and comments to podcasts@aopa.org for a chance to be on the show.


    Full notes below:


    Chad has a Cirrus and he’s looking for some cold-weather guidance. A mechanic told him that subzero temps aren’t recommended for a piston. The POH says that flights below -23 degrees Celsius need the cowl inlet plates. The hosts agree that there’s no problem flying in cold weather, but cold starting requires some care and preheating. Mike said the only problem with low oil temperature is that it doesn’t boil off the moisture, and low cylinder head temperatures could bring lead scavenging problems. Colleen said that lead deposits only matter on valves because it could prevent them from seating properly. But, that can be cleaned off if it occurs.


    Andy has an LX7, a turbocharged airplane. His TIT sensors don’t seem to be working. He’s been using CHT and EGT as a proxy for TIT and he wants to know if that’s a problem. Why not just fix it, Mike says. Andy said he is planning to fix it at the next annual, but Mike said to deal with it now. They recommend a range of troubleshooting options, but agree that it's not a probe issue.


    Darrell has a radio in his Ercoupe, but above 1,200 rpm it is static-y and unreadable. He’s checked the antenna, the coax, the mags, and more. Paul said it’s most likely a connection issue. He recommends starting with the Veclro microphone key switch. Next move to the microphone plug, which often oxidizes. The hosts also recommend checking the P-lead.


    Chase wants to get his A&P based on some of his own owner maintenance, refurb work, and building an airplane. He wants to know how to log his time. Mike said this is highly variable based on the inspector’s preferences, so he recommends calling the FSDO to ask what they want. When Mike went through this process he went back and recreated some of his previous experience on an Excel spreadsheet. Paul helps his employees get their A&P by recording the N-number, date, description, and time in a logbook. It’s important to note that there’s no calendar time limit of how far back you can go.


    "It's not the mechanic's job to make flying cheaper" Oct 01, 2023
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    A compass that works on the ground but not in the air leads to a fun debate between Mike, Paul, and Colleen. Plus, the basics of lean of peak (again), jailbreaking a Rotax, and the liabilities of being a mechanic. Send your questions to podcasts@aopa.org for a chance to be on the show.

    Full notes below:


    Blake flies a Mooney that has a compass with a mind of its own. On the ground it works well, but in the air it vibrates a bit, but otherwise doesn’t move. Paul said his fuselage can become magnetized, which would obviously impact the compass. To solve this he says you need to degauss the frame. Mike suggests he start pulling circuit breakers to see if that fixes it. Colleen thinks it’s a current issue since it gets better when the RPMs decrease. With higher RPMs the wires in the airplane essentially become small electromagnets.


    Lenny is concerned about the liability of working as a mechanic in retirement. Paul said there is liability, but that the job is worth it. Mike says you either worry about or you insure against it. He describes his idea of a maintenance club. The concept is that a group of aircraft owners comes together and hires a mechanic who only works on their airplanes. The mechanic makes more money and the owners have better access to service.


    Andres flies a Bonanza lean of peak, and he wants to make sure he’s avoiding the red box. Mike said there’s a theoretical red box that only exists at GAMI on a test stand. Everyone else must use cylinder head temperature. With CHTs of 380 degree F, Mike said Andres is completely fine. The red box has fuzzy boundaries. He thinks of it as shades of alarm as you get closer to the center of the box. Colleen said her technique is to get on the lean side and just operate where it sounds and feels the smoothest.


    James has a Rotax 912iS engine on an experimental. It requires about 40 psi in the fuel system to operate. He thinks by updating the fuel computing he could lower the fuel burn, which is currently 4 to 4.2 gallons per hour. Rotax offers a higher level of controller that the hosts recommend he buy. They also recommend he leave the fuel system alone and work on another upgrade instead.


    "Inspections are an imperfect process" Sep 15, 2023
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    While one owner has too much of a good thing and lots of shops to choose from, another is second-guessing if the massive check to the cylinder shop was necessary. In this, our first crack at twice-monthly episodes, Mike, Paul, and Colleen spend more time as therapists and counselors than technicians. Submit your questions to podcasts@aopa.org for a chance to be on the show.

    Full notes below:

    Chris has a 182 with a recently overhauled engine that he’s concerned is making too much metal. In fact, the lab called after his most recent oil analysis to draw his attention to the report. The experts see the trends coming down a bit and think he really doesn’t have anything to worry about. With a clean filter inspection, they recommend keeping an eye on it and continuing to fly.


    Mike has a Malibu and he recently replaced all the cylinders and he’s wondering if he wasted his money. His oil analysis had high nickel, and he was experiencing oil pooling and low compression. He wants to know if he could have lapped his valves to save the cylinders. Unfortunately for Mike they agree that the valves would have been great candidates for lapping.


    Kevin has access to four maintenance shops on his airport. He has used two of them thus far and he’s wondering how to manage relationships and expectations when working with multiple shops. Mike said he’s a big believer in getting different sets of eyes on an airplane because each IA has his or her own style and focus. The disadvantage is that many shops will start from zero with a new customer, and doing the AD research and other items will take time and money. In Paul’s shop the IAs rotate airplanes, giving customers the benefit of multiple eyes under the management of one shop. He doesn’t recommend swapping shops every year, instead maybe waiting a few years.


    Steve has gone down the rabbit hole on the wobble test and he has come to the conclusion that the tool doesn’t really clear up the process. Paul said although he has a custom tool, he never uses it, preferring to just ream the guide and not taking the time to measure.


    "Don't attack anything with tools" Sep 01, 2023
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    Did Paul give us the definitive guide on how to hot start an airplane? Try his technique and see what you think. Also, unnecessary cylinder removals, a faulty tach, and a letter writer and guest who question if burping is safe. Send your questions to podcasts@aopa.org for a chance to be on the show.

    Full notes below:

    Walt has a Seneca and has had to replace three cylinders in the last five years. He’s concerned that his mechanic caused the problem after hammering on his exhaust to remove it. The hosts don’t think the incidents are related. While it’s not usually a good idea to hammer on the exhaust, they think it could be useful and safe in limited circumstances. Mike hones in on the reason for the cylinder replacement, and encourages Walt to be more suspect of the need to replace the cylinders in the future.


    Tim thinks his tach is off. He has an alternative device that also reads rpm that shows a different value, so he’s wondering what he can do to adjust or fix his tach. Paul said the tach is technically adjustable, but being an instrument, it’s not something an owner or even most mechanics can do. Unfortunately the hosts agree it’s time to replace it.


    Luke operates a few Extra aerobatic airplanes, and he constantly struggles with hot starts. He has been resorting to blowing large fans up through the cowling, but that’s not always practical. In a Continental it’s recommended to run the fuel pump for about two minutes to purge the hot, boiled off fuel and flush the system with cold fuel. Paul said his technique works on Lycomings and Continentals. Start with everything forward with the pump on. Then listen, and as soon as the flow stabilizes and sounds like it’s pumping liquid, you’re done. Mixture and throttle back, but keep the pump on. Crack the throttle, engage the starter, and then advance the mixture control over a few seconds.


    Thomas has a Mooney and he tried the burping procedure from a recent episode. But the next flight his attitude indicator didn’t come online, and he heard that turning the prop backward can ruin the vacuum pump. The hosts have all heard this concern as well, but Mike’s never heard a confirmed case that turning the prop backward causing a failure. Regardless, this seems to be an issue with older styles of pumps.


    Live from Airventure 2023 Aug 15, 2023
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    Live from EAA Airventure 2023, check out our second in-person show. The questions come fast, and everything from proper leaning to oil leaks is covered. Can Oshkosh-goers stump Mike, Paul, and Colleen?


    Full notes below:

    The first question has Colleen in stitches. Can you widen the gap on your spark plugs to get more horsepower from an engine? Short answer? No! Don’t do it, the hosts agree. Even Colleen, who races airplanes at Reno, says she’s never heard of doing this.

    Richard has a 182 and says the book will allow for high rpm and low manifold pressure, or low rpm and high manifold pressure for a given percent power setting. He wants to know which is better for the engine. The hosts say that rpm puts strain on the engine, so they would choose high manifold pressure and low rpm. The idea of “oversquare” is a relic and not at all true, they say.

    Julie has a 1979 Grumman Tiger and she wants the hosts to address owner-produced parts. Owner-produced parts must be made to the original spec from the manufacturer, which can be hard to track down. But, assuming the owner can find the spec, he or she must be involved in the manufacturing process. Ultimately it’s up to the mechanic to decide whether or not to install the part, and therefore take on all the liability. Bottom line is work with the mechanic early to get his or her blessing.

    Vedant asks how many more hours he can operate the 2,900-hour engine in his Bonanza. His engine has good compressions and only burns a quart every 20 hours. Colleen said conditioning monitoring is all about catching early indications of problems. Mike said there are only two compelling reasons to overhaul an engine. One is that you have solid evidence that there is something wrong in the bottom end that can’t be rectified without splitting the case. The other reason is that you can’t sleep at night.

    Terry has a 182 with an O-470 and can’t keep cylinder 1 below 400 degrees, even at altitude. That’s the right rear cylinder with a vertical baffle right behind it. He checked that. When it’s one cylinder Colleen said it’s usually airflow. Paul suggested a GAMI lean test and an induction leak test as well, just to be sure.

    Rex has a 182 and wonders about flying in the smoke that’s been prevalent around the country this year. The consensus is that smoke won’t hurt the engine, but changing the oil and induction air filter more often are good ideas.

    Tim wants to know about leaning his Mooney M20C. He wonders whether he should lean until it’s pretty smooth or really smooth. Mike said you have to accept a small amount of additional roughness if you want to run really lean.

    David has a 1979 172N and he’s wondering if he can use Camguard with his Lycoming 0-320-H2AD. Mike said he should use the AD-compliant additive just to remain legal.

    Greg asks for downsides to using variable-timed electronic ignitions in a carbureted engines. Paul said the risk is if they advance too far you can get into detonation. He recommends checking the cylinder head temperatures to make sure they aren’t too high. Advanced timing will show high CHTs and low EGTs, and retarded timing is the opposite.

    Jack has a Piper J-3 Cub with a Continental C-85 with only 40 hours. After flying he finds oil all over the belly but no obvious leaks. Paul said if the breather line is cut at the wrong angle it can actually cause a vacuum and draw oil out of the case. Mike said to borescope the cylinders with the intake valve open. It should be dry. If it’s wet you know where the oil is coming from.

    Mike asks about rpm on the ground and lead scavenging. The hosts say to lean as far as you can, regardless of rpm. Mike said not leaning on the ground is the biggest cause of valve sticking. Paul mentioned that Cessna now recommends leaning while at 1800 during the run-up and he said you can use that setting for ground leaning.


    "My airplane is so clean you can eat off it" Aug 01, 2023
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    How to start an airplane, whether or not to wash an airplane for an annual, flying through smoke, and high TITs are all on tap for this grab bag of an episode, as Mike, Paul, and Colleen take your toughest questions. Write to podcasts@aopa.org for a chance to be on the show.


    Tony owns a turbo Twin Comanche with 300 hours on the engines. He burns about 14 gallons per hour on takeoff, but he thinks he should be burning 16 gallons per hour. As a result, he gets high cylinder head temperatures quickly, and needs to reduce power. He also sees power surging on the ground when his engines are hot, but not cold. Paul thinks the fuel servos and engine-driven fuel pumps are both in question. Colleen recommends pulling one servo and sending it out, just to see if it makes a difference. Paul suggests maybe a different shop to see if he gets different results. He’s had many experiences where there’s a problem with a component that overhauling doesn’t fix, despite the overhaul facility saying there’s no issue.


    Andy questions whether shops follow the regulation that requires an aircraft to be cleaned during an annual inspection. Apparently his shop said they will wipe off big globs of dirt, but don’t do a full cleaning. Paul said they definitely wash the airplane, but often it’s after the inspection is complete so they can see the various oil and grease patterns. The wash is complete, but basic. Really dirty airplanes are written up as a discrepancy so the owner can take care of it later.


    Matt has a 210 and he’s worried about exceeding the turbine inlet temperature. They try to fly it below redline, but they exceed it easily and quickly on takeoff. They are hoping to more aggressively lean and take advantage of low CHTs. Mike said not to worry about going over the TIT redline for short periods. Redline on the turbocharger is meant to protect the turbine wheel because the blades can creep from centripetal force when they get too hot. But flying lean of peak is possible because TIT is often exceeded only briefly during the transition, and not when settled. He also suggested that unusual TIT numbers can be a result of improper mag timing.


    Nathan is a flight instructor and wants to clear up the madness around starting carbureted small engines. He sees people use the primer, pump the throttle, and do all sort of other unusual things. He wants to know the right way to do it. Mike said that using the throttle, or using the accelerator pump, puts the fuel in the wrong place. He also thinks that if it’s possible, prime while you crank the engine for best efficiency. Paul said if the primer isn’t helping to start the engine, it’s quite possible the primer isn’t working. He finds a lot of the old primers are clogged, which leads to other techniques.


    Erik has a question about how smoke impacts piston engines. With wildfires being more and more prevalent, whether or not to fly during wildfire season is a growing concern. Colleen said she sees increased dirt in her oil analysis, her air filter gets dirty, and the leading edges of her airplane get dirtier. But the hosts agree that it's generally not a concern, especially for brief periods.


    "The only that thing that can cause CHT to rise that fast is pre-ignition" Jul 01, 2023
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    In two separate but similar incidents, owners want to know whether their cracked spark plug insulators caused pre-ignition or if detonation ruined their plugs. Mike, Paul, and Colleen tackle those questions, and many more. Email podcasts@aopa.org for a chance to get on the show.

    Full notes below:

    Mitch has a Mooney that developed a strong engine vibration a few minutes into a flight. He quickly discovered the problem as the cylinder head temperature was climbing, and he went full rich and reduced power. A subsequent borescope inspection discovered no anomalies, so he’s wondering what happened. Many people online said it was a clogged fuel injector, but Mitch suspects pre-ignition. So do Mike, Paul, and Colleen. They hone in on a cracked spark plug nose insulator. Mitch is also concerned about which came first. Did the broken insulator cause the problem, or did detonation break the plug? Thanks to good photos and data, the hosts are convinced there wasn’t a serious detonation event, and it was isolated to a plug problem.

    Brian wants Mike, Paul, and Colleen to comment on the validity of an unusual procedure. He has a friend that “burps” the engine after every flight, and he swears it keeps his oil much cleaner. It works like this: after every flight the friend will open the oil filler cap and turn the prop backward. Every time he does it a bunch of gasses escape. It’s a legit thing to try, say Paul and Mike. Colleen is shocked because it seems an odd thing to do, but getting a lot of the moisture out—which is the majority of what is coming out—can only be good for the engine.

    Les has a Lance, and on a recent humanitarian flight with a plane full of passengers his engine started shaking badly. With no good option to set down, he reduced power and nursed it back to the airport. No borescope necessary here, the evidence was obvious—total piston destruction. Again the hosts suspect a cracked insulator, and again they think it was probably the spark plug’s fault, and not something that originated with detonation. Mike doesn’t seem classic detonation symptoms on the cylinder. Les isn’t convinced since his mechanic didn’t find a cracked insulator, something Mike doesn’t buy. Even extremely small cracks can cause problems, and with such a violent event, it likely would have been cracked in the process.

    Richard has a new carb temp gauge and he is looking for advice on how to use it. Specifically he’s found that in some phases of flight he has to have carb heat on at least partially to keep the carb temp high enough to stay out of the icing danger zone. But he’s also heard that it’s bad to operate this way. The hosts agree that doing so could be bad, but with the gauge in place he shouldn’t worry. It gives him the information he needs to operate safely.

    Jay discovered a broken oil control ring after just a few hundred hours on a cylinder, and he’s wondering if his operating procedure caused it. Jay flies a Taylorcraft and it has a new carb that enables leaning, whereas previously it was always flown full rich. Not to worry, say the hosts. Excessive leaning wouldn’t have caused the problem, and he should feel safe to continue leaning.


    "I'm a total turbocharging bigot" Jun 01, 2023
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    Paul and Colleen broadcast from Dayton, Ohio, for Aviation Maintenance Technician Day, and together with Mike, do their best to help owners suffering with engine problems, mysterious cold air leaks, improper fuel indications, and more. Send your questions to podcasts@aopa.org for a chance to be on the show.

    Full notes below:

    Jim has a heavily modified Twin Comanche that blows cold air on the back of his neck, and he can’t find the source. He suspects it’s from the rear tailcone, but he can’t figure out how to stop it. Paul suggests it could be the rear bulkhead or from the wing roots. Despite his attempts, it’s actually gotten worse and is now blowing air on his legs that varies based on attitude, whether the heater is on, and maybe even heading. Mike suggests a camera and tufts of yarn in the tailcone to see where the airflow is coming from. Paul suggests that the airflow from the heater might be blocked, causing problems. They said if you pull out seats and floor panels on a test flight with a mechanic he might be able to find the culprit.

    Sam asks about dynamically balancing a propeller. When is it necessary? Who does it? The hosts agree it’s a good service to do when you change something, although the prop should be balanced from the shop.

    Arnold has a Bonanza that improperly shows the fuel level on the right tank, but only after it’s burned a few gallons. This is using Ceis fuel senders on a Garmin display. After many attempted fixes, it’s still reading low. Paul said they have to forget what they think has been eliminated and instead go and try to recreate the problem on the ground. Mike suggests putting a small vacuum on the tank to see if they can do just that.

    Keith has a turbonormalized Bonanza and wants to make sure he treats it well. He’s been surprised at how contentious the turbo versus non-turbo debate is. Mike said he thinks it’s a geographic problem where people on the East Coast think it’s useless and everyone out West thinks it’s a great tool. Although a turbocharged airplane is easier to abuse, the mechanisms themselves don’t have any inherent downfalls. So long as you treat it well and know that turbochargers are wear items, you should be fine.

    Ben has a Bonanza and he wants to know if he can remove the rear seats and remain legal by doing the weight and balance math based on station and equipment info from the manual. He also wants to exchange the fasteners to make it faster and easier. Colleen said a new weight and balance from an A&P is required once in order to be legal, and the hosts agree that fasteners approved for a later model Bonanza should be easy to get approved for his airplane.

    Kyle has a problem on both of his airplanes. His Cessna 182 with a bit more than 1,800 hours had a bent push rod and a bit of his lifter body had cracked as well. He is wondering if he should overhaul now since the case has to be opened anyway. Mike said the answer is always based on what happens after the case is split. If everything measures well then an IRAN is a good way to go, but an overhaul might be warranted too. It all depends on the inspection. The Continental C85 in Kyle's Luscombe has a stumble around 1,800 or 1,900 rpms. He thinks it might be a lean mixture issue because a bit of carb heat helps. Paul suggests he borrow a carb from a friend to see what happens. Even though Kyle has already overhauled his carb, Paul said he’s seen numerous times where even a supposedly overhauled carb won’t perform any better because they can’t duplicate the issue on the bench. A different carb would help to isolate the problem.


    "Pop that cowling off and squirt away" May 01, 2023
    Show notes

    A grab bag of unique questions come at Mike, Paul, and Colleen this month, including whether to buy new or overhaul, how prop stops work, what happens when you reduce from wide open throttle, and avoiding tiedowns. Submit your question to podcasts@aopa.org for a chance to be on the show.

    Full notes below:

    Dale has a Seneca and he’s looking to the future and having to overhaul two engines. He’s wondering how to decide between factory new, reman, or overhaul. Not surprisingly, they suggest flying your current engines as long as possible if they are treating you well. When the time comes that you have to change engines, Mike said his general rule is that if the engine has treated you well to consider a field overhaul. If there’s a concern about the current engine, he said to consider a factory engine. More control over the process is another reason to do a field overhaul.


    Jim has a question about his L-3 with a Continental A65. He has an updated carburetor with a mixture control. A challenge with that engine is that you don’t get an onset of roughness when leaning. It just tries to quit, and without an electrical system, an in-flight shutdown isn’t ideal. He’s worried that a big stumble is startling and he pushes it too far rich again, putting him in the red box. Mike said there’s no need to go to roughness. You can lean only to the first indication of power reduction.


    Dubs has noticed that after leveling in cruise, when pulling the throttle back from wide open, it moves a significant amount before the manifold pressure changes. Yet in doing so he’s reducing his fuel flow. He’s wondering why this happens. Mike thinks it’s possible Dubs has a carb with an enrichment circuit, which gives more fuel at wide open throttle, meaning fuel flow will come down as soon as throttle is reduced. The hosts discuss how Dubs’ operating practice is how Cessna 182 pilots with 0-470 engines should operate to improve mixture distribution. The impact butterfly valves make is very non-linear, they say. The first 5 to 10 degrees of tilt won’t make a big difference, for example.


    Phillip is a maintenance tech in a shop that adjusted the low pitch stop of a prop based on the recommendations of the prop shop. He’s wondering why it was successful. Paul describes how a prop adjustment works, and why some airplanes don’t make full rpm until they’re down the runway a bit.


    Richard’s Rotax ran rough on a run-up, and after some troubleshooting he still hasn’t found the culprit. All winter it ran fine, but he’s concerned it will happen again in warm weather. Since this happened on both magnetos it’s likely not a spark plug. Colleen is wondering if the rpm range had an impact because the Bing carbs have three distinct operating ranges. If it happens again Colleen recommends isolating it and first checking the spark plugs, then maybe cleaning the carbs, and finally looking at the fuel delivery lines. Mike thinks it has to be a fuel system problem since it changes with temperature.


    Brennan has a nice Mooney M20J that he wants to continue to take good care of. He now lives in a very humid environment and can’t find a hangar. He left the airplane in his old hangar and can barely get to the airplane to fly it. He’s wondering what would be the least damaging practice—fly less or keep it outside. The hosts think it’s better to get the airplane closer and fly it while doing his best to keep corrosion away with freshwater washes, corrosion treatments, and maybe covers.


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