Around the Circle | An Enneagram Podcast

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Roots | Enneagram 7 & 4 * Penny and Tori May 26, 2026

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n this episode, Katie talks to mother/daughter duo Penny and Tori. We chat about how a 4 navigates life with two independent stance parents, and we ask ourselves an important question: Exactly how much fun can a 7 create at a wedding when given the opportunity to do so?

Thank you to Penny and Tori for coming on the show, and if anyone else is interested in being interviewed, don't hesitate to navigate to my website and fill out the application form.

ALSO - Registration is now live for Tyler Zach's newest Enneagram summit! Jeff and I will both be speaking on day 3 (June 11). Get your free tickets here!

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"Morning Show" | Enneagram and the Heart May 25, 2026

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We continue our dive into each of the types and their relationships with their Heart Center, spending most of our time on 9s, 2s, 6s, and 1s.

The Enneagram Book Everyone’s Talking About | A Review and Critique May 23, 2026

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Find all our material on Dr. Siegel's Book : HERE

In this episode, Jeff Cook sits down with Danielle Fuller (Scientific Enneagram) for a deep conversation on Dr. Daniel Siegel’s Personality and Wholeness in Therapy—the book many are calling the most important scientific contribution to Enneagram theory in years. Together they unpack the book’s core framework around agency, bonding, certainty, emotional regulation, and developmental pathways while wrestling with both its strengths and frustrations.

Jeff and Danielle explore where Siegel’s work reframes the Enneagram for therapists and skeptics, where the language becomes overly dense, and how neuroscience, polyvagal theory, and personality theory intersect with classic Enneagram ideas. Along the way, they debate whether the book advances the conversation, complicates it unnecessarily, or both at the same time.

This is a theory-heavy discussion for serious students of the Enneagram, psychology, and human development.

The Space Between Wings | 1↔2 and 2↔3 May 21, 2026

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In this episode of Rewired, Jeff Cook and Katie Whitlock explore the shared space between neighboring Enneagram types through the lens of wings, relationships, posture, and emotional overlap.

Rather than treating wings as a way to narrow identity, they ask a different question: what do adjacent types share?

The conversation begins with Ones and Twos, unpacking themes like sacrifice, servant-heartedness, grief, judgment, and the pressure to care for the world around them. From there, they move into the shared emotional world of Twos and Threes, exploring image crafting, externalized shame, relational performance, and the difficulty of truly seeing oneself.

Along the way, Jeff and Katie discuss:

Why wings may be “high level” Enneagram work
The difference between sharing a center and sharing a stance
Why neighboring types often mistype as one another
The role gender can play in how types express sacrifice and care
How Twos and Threes use other people as mirrors
Why some types struggle to do deep Enneagram work despite loving the system
The tension between authentic connection and adaptive performance

This episode opens a new direction for Rewired — less focused on categorizing people and more interested in the spaces between them.

Roots | Enneagram 9, 2, & 9 * Suzanne, Mallory, and Emma May 19, 2026

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These podcasts are getting bigger and bigger! Today I welcome TWO sisters and their mom to talk about more mother-daughter relationship dynamics. We chat about the similarities between 2s and 9s, and what it's like to give your children space to grow and be themselves.

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Mistyping Monday | Is Meredith a 2, 3, or 8? May 18, 2026

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Mistyping Monday returns!

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Heroes? | Type 8 | Magneto and the X-Men (Complete Series) May 16, 2026

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From our Movie Typing podcast , this is the full 4 episode discussion of Enneagram eights, heroism, politics, and the movement into villainy with our friend Steve Morris.

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Roots | Enneagram 7 & 1 * Ann and Sara May 12, 2026

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My extended family gets featured this week! I am joined by my cousin and my aunt to talk about the dynamics between a 7 mother & a 1 daughter. Their family also includes three younger siblings (triplets!) so we get to talk about sibling dynamics and how a 1 survives being the oldest sister.

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"The Morning Show" | Enneagram and the Body May 11, 2026

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A conversation about the body center, instinct, anger, boundaries, and what it means to be present. In this episode of the Morning Show, Jeff, Kristin, Jackie, and TJ explore how each Enneagram center experiences the world through the body—whether through instinct, physicality, control, fear, affection, movement, autonomy, or anger.

The discussion moves from tattoos and touch to chronic pain, flow states, repression, emotional regulation, and the complicated relationship each type has with anger and physical presence.

Along the way, the group wrestles with questions like: What is healthy anger? What does it mean to trust your body? Why do some people move toward intensity while others avoid it? And how do we stop overthinking long enough to actually inhabit our lives?

Saturday Workshop | 6s and 7s May 08, 2026

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In this final session of the series, Jeff and Katie wrap up their exploration of the shadow work of the Enneagram by focusing on Type Six and Type Seven.

We unpack the fear, holy ideas and heart’s messages connected to each type, and ask what actually helps move people toward courage, temperance, and greater wholeness.

The discussion moves beyond stereotypes and into the lived experience of Sixes and Sevens — how Sixes seek certainty and support, how Sevens navigate fear of deprivation and being trapped, and how both types wrestle with trust, vulnerability, and control.

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