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    AP Taylor Swift

    Taylor Swift is the Shakespeare of our time. And we can prove it.

    AP Taylor Swift is a weekly literary analysis podcast for Swifties who crave smart, funny, and approachable conversations about Taylor’s lyrics. Hosts Maansi Dommeti, Jenn Holcomb, and Jodi Innerfield are three longtime Swifties whose different lives mean they never hear a song the same way. Our Show & Tell episodes connect a theme or rhetorical device to songs across her catalog (think Ecocriticism to Hilary Duff); and our Deep Dive episodes go line-by-line through one song to discover what it’s really about. Whether you’ve got the Eras Tour setlist memorized, or you just know ‘Shake It Off,’ class is in session.

    New episodes weekly. Subscribe for updates: aptaylorswift.substack.com/subscribe

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    E30: Deep Dive - gold rush Apr 03, 2024
    Show notes

    What must it be like to grow up that beautiful? In this episode, we deep dive into the beautiful “gold rush.” We dive into the historical context of the real-life gold rush and how the gold rush was presented to us as kids versus today as adults. Then, we dive into how the reality of history affects how we interpret this song. We also explore how fame or popularity connects to this song. Finally, we examine the siren call motif and the speaker's ultimate decision to resist the temptation of the gold rush. Ultimately, our takeaway is the importance of agency, boundaries, and the speaker’s decision to not engage with a gold rush.

    Mentioned in this episode:

    Oregon Trail (website)

    Empty Mansions by Bell Deadman and Paul Clark Newell

    Mean Girls

    Harry Potter series

    Mythology by Edith Hamilton

    Glee

    David Copperfield by Charles Dickens

    Villette by Charlotte Bronte

    “You’re Beautiful” by James Blunt


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    ***

    Episode Highlights:

    [05:15] - Introduction to historical context of the gold rush

    [09:12] - The speaker’s perspective

    [14:38] - The temptation to “jump in”

    [24:08] - The siren call

    [31:10] - The structure of the song

    [38:52] - The convenience of a dream

    [48:50] - Is this person worth it?

    Subscribe to get new episode updates: aptaylorswift.substack.com/subscribe

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    This podcast is neither related to nor endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own. Intro music produced by Scott Zadig aka Scotty Z.


    E29: Show and Tell - Aestheticism Mar 27, 2024
    Show notes

    Every bait and switch was a work of art. It’s time to get theoretical! In this week’s episode, we cover Aesthetic Theory–the experience of beauty, for the sake of beauty. Jodi starts us off quite literally with “Gorgeous” from reputation (2017). This prompts a discussion of “The Picture of Dorian Gray” by Oscar Wilde, and the similarities between the song’s obsession with the subject’s beauty, and the book’s fixation on the beauty and youth of Dorian Gray. Naturally, we talk about gender roles and the negative sides of focusing exclusively on a person’s beauty. Then, Jenn brings in “willow” from evermore (2020) as an example of a song that gave her an aesthetic experience. And Maansi brings it home with “gold rush,” also from evermore (2020), focusing on the detailed, artistic descriptions of beauty throughout the song.


    Mentioned in this episode:

    “The Picture of Dorian Gray,” Oscar Wilde

    “The Giver,” Lois Lowry

    “The Giver” movie

    “Gorgeous,” reputation

    “willow,” folklore

    “gold rush,” folklore

    The Aeneid, Virgil

    The Pit and the Pendulum, Edgar Allen Poe

    The Odyssey, Homer

    Important definitions:

    Aestheticism: aestheticism promoted an "art for art's sake" philosophy, celebrating beauty as free of moral or utilitarian considerations

    Hedonism: the pursuit of pleasure; sensual self-indulgence.

    Ekphrasis: the use of detailed description of a work of visual art as a literary device.

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    ***

    Episode Highlights:

    [01:10] Introduction to Aestheticism

    [08:59] “Gorgeous,” reputation

    [26:03] “willow,” evermore

    [40:37] “gold rush,” evermore

    Subscribe to get new episode updates: aptaylorswift.substack.com/subscribe

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    This podcast is neither related to nor endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own. Intro music produced by Scott Zadig aka Scotty Z.


    E28: Deep Dive - Shake It Off Mar 20, 2024
    Show notes

    That’s What People Say (ooh ooh). In this deep dive episode, we get into the groove of Taylor Swift's “Shake It Off” from her album 1989 (Taylor’s Version). We start by discussing how the song acts as a strategic move by Swift to rebrand herself as a pop artist and connect with a larger audience. We look at how Taylor addresses the haters and criticisms she’s received over the years through her lyrics. And we make the case that this is not a simple song–it’s a therapeutic anthem of resilience, empowerment, and growth. Jodi and Jenn get flashbacks to grad school thinking about this song, and Maansi…well, listen to hear what Maansi really thinks about this song.


    Mentioned in this episode:

    “Shake It Off”

    How Taylor Swift Made Me a Better Marketer

    The Spare

    Clare @colormelovely

    Mean

    TIME Person of the Year profile

    Risky Business, the rock band at Ross

    Mean Girls

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    ***

    Episode Highlights:

    [02:15] How “Shake It Off” fits into Taylor’s musical catalog

    [07:01] “It’s gonna be alright”

    [10:44] Taylor as a marketing GENIUS

    [16:41] “I stay out too late”

    [22:52] Looking at this song 10 years later

    [30:30] Was there another option as the first single?

    [37:25] The purpose of the song

    Subscribe to get new episode updates: aptaylorswift.substack.com/subscribe

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    This podcast is neither related to nor endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own. Intro music produced by Scott Zadig aka Scotty Z.


    E27: Show and Tell - Poetic Repetition Mar 13, 2024
    Show notes

    You go talk to your friends, talk to my friends, talk to me. Let’s get ready for "The Tortured Poets Department" and explore the concept of poetic repetition in Taylor Swift's songs. From understanding epizeuxis and anaphora to seeing how Taylor uses these devices in “We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together”’ “Shake It Off” and “This Love,” we discuss how repetition can seem deceptively simple while still communicating a clear message. Understanding the purpose of any text can help enrich your experience of that art, and this week’s episode helps us understand the power of some of Taylor’s less complicated lyrics. Tune into this week’s conversation to see why simplicity can be powerful, and perhaps we may even convince you to appreciate a song you don’t necessarily want to listen to on repeat.

    Note: This episode was recorded before the "The Tortured Poets Department" announcement. We hope it helps us all prepare for the album!

    Helpful definitions:

    Epizeuxis (a.k.a. palilogia) - the immediate repetition of a word or phrase for rhetorical or poetic effect. For example, "the children squealed with glee, with glee” or “Shake it off, shake it off”

    Anaphora - repetition of a word or expression at the beginning of successive phrases, clauses, sentences, or verses especially for rhetorical or poetic effect. For example, Lincoln's "we cannot dedicate—we cannot consecrate—we cannot hallow—this ground.” OR “Please don’t be in love with someone else, please don’t have somebody waiting on you.”

    Epistrophe - repetition of a word or expression at the end of successive phrases, clauses, sentences, or verses especially for rhetorical or poetic effect. For example, Lincoln's "of the people, by the people, for the people.” or “And it was enchanting to meet you / All I can say is it was enchanting to meet you”

    Mentioned in this episode:

    Tale of Two Cities by Charles Dickens

    King Lear by William Shakespeare

    Walden by Thoreau

    Macbeth by William Shakespeare

    Mean Girls

    Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire by J.K. Rowling

    Friends

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    ***

    Episode Highlights:

    [01:25] Introduction to Poetic Repetition

    [06:43] “We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together,” Red (Taylor’s Version)

    [22:00] “Shake It Off,” 1989 (Taylor’s Version)

    [40:45] “This Love,” 1989 (Taylor’s Version)

    Subscribe to get new episode updates: aptaylorswift.substack.com/subscribe

    Follow us on social!

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    This podcast is neither related to nor endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own. Intro music produced by Scott Zadig aka Scotty Z.


    E26: Deep Dive - Haunted Mar 06, 2024
    Show notes

    "It’s coming over you like it was all a big mistake." In this week’s episode, we dive into the Speak Now (Taylor’s Version) classic “Haunted.” We discuss how Taylor Swift’s song captures the haunting and fragile nature of relationships, the devastation of loss, and the immediate aftermath of a breakup. In true form, we also tie the idea of a haunting break up back to our careers, and what it can feel like when you are constantly wondering “what if” about your past decisions. Whether you want some strong emotions or a bit of verb tense analysis, we get into it all in our conversation about “Haunted.”

    Mentioned in this episode:

    Broadway Sings Taylor Swift

    Phantom of the Opera

    Romeo and Juliet

    Madeline

    Rebecca by Daphne du Maurier

    “The Crown” Netflix

    "The Year of Taylor Swift” from The Daily

    Slaughterhouse Five

    Moulin Rouge

    Looking for an audio book? Check out our Libro.fm playlist https://tidd.ly/47uhRVI

    ***

    Episode Highlights:

    [00:25] Introduction to "Haunted"

    [02:35] The theme of haunting in Taylor’s music

    [14:18] When you’re haunted by work or other relationships

    [22:24] When you’re haunted by the “what if”

    [37:56] The purpose of “Haunted”

    Subscribe to get new episode updates: aptaylorswift.substack.com/subscribe

    Follow us on social!

    • TikTok → tiktok.com/@APTaylorSwift
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    • YouTube → youtube.com/@APTaylorSwift
    • Link Tree →linktr.ee/aptaylorswift
    • Bookshop.org → bookshop.org/shop/apts
    • Libro.fm → https://tidd.ly/47uhRVI

    This podcast is neither related to nor endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own. Intro music produced by Scott Zadig aka Scotty Z.


    E25: Show and Tell - "Pride and Prejudice" Feb 28, 2024
    Show notes

    All they keep asking me, is if I’m gonna be your bride. We’re a literary-focused Taylor Swift podcast, so it was only a matter of time before we brought Jane Austen into the mix. In this episode, we explore three songs in relation to Pride and Prejudice. Jenn focuses on the sisterly relationship between Elizabeth and Jane with “I’m Only Me When I’m With You.” Maansi zooms into the moment Darcy confesses his love to Elizabeth, only to be brutally rebuffed, with the song “Haunted.” And Jodi explores the connections between the societal pressure to get married in Pride and Prejudice and “Lavender Haze.” It is a truth universally acknowledged that any conversation on this podcast will find literary and pop culture references to Taylor Swift, and this episode is no different!

    Mentioned in this episode:

    Pride and Prejudice, Jane Austen

    “I’m Only Me When I’m With You,” Taylor Swift

    & Juliet

    The Tenant of Wildfell Hall, Anne Bronte

    “Haunted”, Speak Now (Taylor’s Version)

    Hamilton

    Emma, Jane Austen

    “Lavender Haze,” Midnights

    Bridgerton

    Looking for an audio book? Check out our Libro.fm playlist https://tidd.ly/47uhRVI

    ***

    Episode Highlights:

    [01:14] Introduction to Pride and Prejudice

    [05:39] “I’m Only Me When I’m With You” - Taylor Swift

    [27:23] “Haunted” - Speak Now (Taylor’s Version)

    [43:31] “Lavender Haze” - Midnights

    Subscribe to get new episode updates: aptaylorswift.substack.com/subscribe

    Follow us on social!

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    • Bookshop.org → bookshop.org/shop/apts
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    This podcast is neither related to nor endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own. Intro music produced by Scott Zadig aka Scotty Z.


    E24: Deep Dive - right where you left me Feb 21, 2024
    Show notes

    Did you ever hear about the girl who got frozen? In this week’s deep dive episode, we discuss the evermore bonus track, “right where you left me.” We explore themes of feeling stuck, the haunting presence of the narrator, the plea for help, and how we see attitudes in the song mirrored in society. This beautiful and ultimately sad song also inspired a wide range of references from Elle Woods to Charles Dickens to Foucault. This song definitely has some layers, so join us as we unpack their meaning and ultimately try to get to the purpose of “right where you left me.”

    Mentioned in this episode:

    Arrested Development

    Ghost (the movie)

    School Spirit (show on Netflix)

    "Great Expectations" by Charles Dickens

    The Man Who Can’t Be Moved (song)

    "The Notebook" by Nicholas Sparks

    "The Picture of Dorian Gray" by Oscar Wilde

    "The Age of Adelaide" (film)

    "The Invisible Life of Addie LaRue"

    "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets" by J.K. Rowling

    Legally Blonde

    The Last Five Years

    "No Exit" by Jean-Paul Sartre

    "1984" by George Orwell

    "Discipline and Punish" by Foucault

    "Fahrenheit 451" by Ray Bradbury

    Jeremy Bentham’s body

    Looking for an audio book? Check out our Libro.fm playlist https://tidd.ly/47uhRVI

    ***

    Episode Highlights:

    [0:35] - Introduction to “right where you left me”

    [2:45] - Setting the scene of the song

    [7:07] - Metaphorically and literally being stuck

    [10:00] - The characters in this song

    [17:50] - “the glass shattered on the white cloth”

    [24:52] - The Panopticon and society’s expectations

    [36:15] - Taylor’s use of “haunting” as imagery

    [43:09] - The song as a metaphor for mental health

    Subscribe to get new episode updates: aptaylorswift.substack.com/subscribe

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    This podcast is neither related to nor endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own. Intro music produced by Scott Zadig aka Scotty Z.


    E23: Show and Tell - Mad Women Feb 14, 2024
    Show notes

    There’s nothing like a mad woman, what a shame she went mad. What better way to celebrate Valentine’s Day than with some songs about women scorned? In this episode, we bring to you three songs that represent mad women. Maansi kicks off the discussion with the scornful, vengeful mad woman in “Better Than Revenge,” Jodi walks us through the woman who’s driven to insanity in “mad woman,” and Jenn wraps up the discussion with an example of the mad woman who is stuck in bonus track “right where you left me.” We close out the discussion by acknowledging how all of these songs are indicative of a movement that’s giving women everywhere the opportunity to reclaim the “mad woman” stigma.

    Did we know this episode would drop on Valentine’s Day when we recorded it? No. Are we mad about it? Not at all!

    Mentioned in this episode:

    Hildegard of Bingen

    Sigmund Freud

    Mean Girls

    “Before He Cheats,” Carrie Underwood

    “Mama’s Broken Heart,” Miranda Lambert

    “Jolene,” Dolly Parton

    “Vigilante shit,” Taylor Swift

    The Country of the Blind, HG Wells

    Game of Thrones

    Great Expectations, Charles Dickens

    Mrs. Dalloway, Virginia Woolf

    Pride & Prejudice, Jane Austen

    Jane Eyre, Charlotte Bronte

    The Female Malady, Elaine Showalter

    Villette, Charlotte Bronte

    Snow Flower and the Secret Fan by Lisa See

    Cinderella’s Sisters: A Revisionist History of Foot Binding, Dorothy Ko

    “Mama’s broken heart,” Miranda Lambert

    Looking for an audio book? Check out our Libro.fm playlist https://tidd.ly/47uhRVI

    ***

    Episode Highlights:

    [01:47] Intro to “mad women” & hysteria

    [09:43] “Better than revenge,” Speak Now

    [33:52] “mad woman,” folklore

    [50:52] “right where you left me,” evermore

    [1:13:02] Reclaiming the mad woman

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    This podcast is neither related to nor endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own. Intro music produced by Scott Zadig aka Scotty Z.


    E22: Deep Dive - The Outside Feb 07, 2024
    Show notes

    We’ve all been in a lot of lonely places. In this week’s deep dive, your hosts take you back to one of the original sad songs from Taylor’s debut album, “The Outside.” Perhaps more of a deep cut, this song cuts straight to the heart of what it feels like to be left out. Join us to discover what this song meant to us in our high school years vs today. We’ll explore how Taylor’s writing and musical styles may have changed, but she’s always known how to capture some of the most universal experiences, particularly for women! TW: We do discuss eating issues and disorders in this episode. We are fortunately recovered so the ultimate result is body positivity, but FYI!


    Mentioned in this episode:

    The Outside - the song

    Pride & Prejudice

    Lizzie McGuire

    Untangled by Lisa Damour

    Queen Bees & Wannabes

    Robert Frost

    The Good Enough Job

    Mean Girls

    Hamilton

    Looking for an audio book? Check out our Libro.fm playlist https://tidd.ly/47uhRVI

    ***

    Episode Highlights:

    [00:56] Introduction to “The Outside”

    [02:59] Lizzie McGuire captures the spirit of “The Outside”

    [09:11] Taylor references Robert Frost

    [17:01] “I’ve never been on the outside”

    [21:35] Is there a bridge in this song?

    [24:09] Feeling on “the outside” when you start a new job

    [30:48] The purpose of “The Outside”


    Subscribe to get new episode updates: aptaylorswift.substack.com/subscribe

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    This podcast is neither related to nor endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own. Intro music produced by Scott Zadig aka Scotty Z.


    Bonus - Taylor Swift's "The Tortured Poets Department" Announcement Analysis Feb 06, 2024
    Show notes

    And so I enter into evidence…In this very special BONUS episode, your Unofficial Professors of Taylor Swift go deep into the artifacts that Taylor has released for her upcoming album, “The Tortured Poets Department.” From the album art, the title, and the poem, to the track titles, we discuss it all! Is this album going to be more intellectual or emotional? Is Taylor on defense or offense? How wrong will all of our predictions be when the album is actually released? Well, we give you our hypotheses for the first two questions, but we will all have to wait until April 19th to see how well this conversation ages!

    Mentioned in this episode:

    Euphues by John Lyly (origin of “all’s fair in love and war”)

    Who’s Afraid of Virginia Woolf by Edward Albee

    Mrs. Dalloway by Virginia Woolf

    The Poetry of Dorothy Parker

    Mythology by Edith Hamilton

    Potter Puppet Pals: The Mysterious Ticking Noise

    Tick, Tick…Boom! by Jonathan Larson, Directed by Lin Manuel Miranda

    Looking for an audio book? Check out our Libro.fm playlist https://tidd.ly/47uhRVI

    ***

    Episode Highlights:

    01:08 - Analyzing the Album Cover

    03:07 - The Title: "Chairman of the Tortured Poets Department"

    07:12 - The Poem: "And So I Enter Into Evidence"

    36:30 - All's Fair in Love and Poetry

    45:36 - Tracklist Analysis

    54:11 - The Back Cover Image

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    This podcast is neither related to nor endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own. Intro music produced by Scott Zadig aka Scotty Z.


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