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    Angus Underground

    Featuring insightful opinions, the latest news from around the Angus cattle world and conversations with industry leaders, newsmakers and breeders – from the well-known to the not so well-known. Keep it Underground with your host, David Brown.

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    Latest Episodes:
    Are you Pedigree Aware? Apr 05, 2024
    Show notes

    This week, a conversation with a loyal listener sparks a conversation amongst the crew on the topic of pedigree snobbery and intentional breeding. They debate the use of historic sires like Complete after examining pedigree awareness and goals. They also emphasize balancing lineage relevance with discipline, and how clear objectives guide effective selection toward a breeder’s vision.

    Mentioned in this Episode:

    MontanaRanchAngus.com

    BruinRanch.com

    ShadyBrookAngus Farm.com

    Facebook @AngusUnderground

    Instagram @AngusUnderground

    Contact AngusUnderground@Yahoo.com or call (406) 210-1366 if you are interested in becoming a sponsor for Angus Underground.

    Crooked Creek Angus

    Dr. Madhi Saatchi

    Salering.live

    Quotes:

    • “Everybody finds something different, and that’s what I think is so neat.” [9:59]
    • “If you don’t have a program in mind; if you don’t have a goal in mind, you are still going to sell all of your experiments right through to the commercial industry where those folks live and die by the fun you’re having.” [15:40]
    • “If you can’t find a good seedstock provider, be one.” [15:51]
    • “Figure out where you want to go with your program. That should be first.” [17:10]
    • “Consider whose opinions you’re gonna get on social media.” [18:39]
    • “I think we all have a little bit of pedigree snob in us.” [23:50]
    • “Being pedigree aware is really, really important and you don’t have to be a snob about it.” [30:50]
    • “If you really want to get to this objective you’re breeding towards, you’ve got to use your own sires, and you’ve got to stay disciplined and on course.” [56:44]
    • “There is a big difference between pedigree snob and pedigree educated, much different.” [1:02:46]

    Learn more about our sponsor, Montana Ranch, by visiting MontanaRanchAngus.com.


    Minerals with Josh Stroh, Beef Nutritionist with Hubbard Feeds Mar 22, 2024
    Show notes

    It’s all about minerals this week with guest Josh Stroh, Beef Nutritionist with Hubbard Feeds. Josh addresses the importance of minerals for cattle health and productivity, how minerals support reproduction and growth, and how mineral needs can differ significantly depending on location. He talks about how producers can evaluate their mineral programs suitable for their operations and environments.

    Mentioned in this Episode:

    MontanaRanchAngus.com

    BruinRanch.com

    ShadyBrookAngus Farm.com

    Facebook @AngusUnderground

    Instagram @AngusUnderground

    Contact AngusUnderground@Yahoo.com or call (406) 210-1366 if you are interested in becoming a sponsor for Angus Underground.

    Cooked Creek Angus

    InsureMyBull.com

    Hubbard Feeds

    Quotes:

    • “Think of it as tools in your tool shed and you’re just equipping that animal to maximize the kind of performance levels you want.” — Josh [9:42]
    • “Whoever you’re buying your mineral product from, if they aren’t making you money with their product, don't buy it.” — Josh [24:28]
    • “I think it comes back to who you trust, who you want to deal with, what you're comfortable with. If it isn’t broke, don’t fix it.” — Josh [1:13:09]

    Learn more about our sponsor, Montana Ranch, by visiting MontanaRanchAngus.com.


    Estrus Synchronization Protocols Mar 08, 2024
    Show notes

    The crew welcomes the distinguished Robert Whitacre, co-owner of Breeder Link in Winchester, Virginia. In a topic timely for spring breeding, Robert talks about the best estrus synchronization protocols and methods, along with some cool tools to help make synchronization easier and more effective. The guys also talk about the importance of selecting the best protocol based on management abilities and heifer development.

    Mentioned in this Episode:

    MontanaRanchAngus.com

    BruinRanch.com

    ShadyBrookAngus Farm.com

    Facebook @AngusUnderground

    Instagram @AngusUnderground

    Contact AngusUnderground@Yahoo.com or call (406) 210-1366 if you are interested in becoming a sponsor for Angus Underground.

    BreederLink.com

    MarshallandFennerFarms.com

    Quotes:

    • “At the end of the day, if the heifers are not cycling, nothing is going to make them cycle. Nothing is going to make them breed. It’s just nature, and it’s got to run its course.” [31:56]
    • “You can’t highlight it enough, understanding what your people are capable of and what your facilities are capable of with your management and time.” [50:54]
    • “Sometimes, we just need to know what our management is capable of or not before deciding a breeding endeavor.” [1:07:04]
    • “We want to work with like-minded people and like-minded breeders.” — Robert [1:38:38]

    Learn more about our sponsor, Montana Ranch, by visiting MontanaRanchAngus.com.


    Keeping the Balance Feb 23, 2024
    Show notes

    David and Seana welcome Brent and Tina Vieselmeyer of Vision Angus in Amherst, CO. They first share the story of their journey towards a healthier lifestyle and the importance of accountability through a support network. Brent and Tina then talk about the customer-centric approach at Vision Angus and what we can expect at their annual production and bull sale in March.

    Mentioned in this Episode:

    MontanaRanchAngus.com

    BruinRanch.com

    ShadyBrookAngus Farm.com

    Facebook @AngusUnderground

    Instagram @AngusUnderground

    Contact AngusUnderground@Yahoo.com or call (406) 210-1366 if you are interested in becoming a sponsor for Angus Underground.

    Montana Ranch

    Vision Angus

    Dr. A’s Habits of Health

    Optavia


    Quotes:

    • “Be part of a network of support in whatever journey you’re in.” — Brent [20:46]
    • “Part of our struggle is that we think we can do things ourselves, and we can change ourselves, when you really need a whole network of support to start making subtle changes.” — Tina [26:29]
    • “We need that time away to trigger our creativity. I think you have to spur that creativity sometimes.” [1:03:55]
    • “I think that the two key words that really just describe our program are balance and predictability.” — Tina [1:10:10]

    Learn more about our sponsor, Montana Ranch, by visiting MontanaRanchAngus.com.


    Diversified Farming with Glenmary Farm Feb 09, 2024
    Show notes

    The guys start with a segment called “Be Prepared” to make sure you stay equipped and protected during this winter and upcoming spring season. Then they welcome Tom and Kim Nixon, along with their daughter Elizabeth, from the family-run Glenmary Farm in Virginia. They discuss two segments within their diversified farming business, Glenmary Reserve meats and their registered seed stock operation. Tom, Kim, and Elizabeth chat about their production calendar and their bull selection process and they share some great tips for word-of-mouth marketing.

    Mentioned in this Episode:

    MontanaRanchAngus.com

    BruinRanch.com

    ShadyBrookAngus Farm.com

    Facebook @AngusUnderground

    Instagram @AngusUnderground

    Contact AngusUnderground@Yahoo.com or call (406) 210-1366 if you are interested in becoming a sponsor for Angus Underground.

    Montana Ranch

    Glenmary Farm

    Glenmary Reserve Beef

    Rafter 5M Land and Cattle


    Quotes:

    • “Get a look at it and say what’s the worst-case scenario, and plan for it.” [24:46]
    • “Assess what your reasonable risk is, and attack it from there.” [38:04]
    • “When you have that network of people who are directed to you because the products in the service match the people, then you don’t have to do all this expensive shotgun approach marketing that may or may not hit the target.” [1:22:12]

    Learn more about our sponsor, Montana Ranch, by visiting MontanaRanchAngus.com.


    NWSS Conversations - Part 2 Jan 26, 2024
    Show notes

    David and Joe are back at the National Western Stock Show with man on the street style interviews. They sit down with fellow Angus breeders, dear friends and Angus Underground listeners including: Ryan Parry from Parry Angus, Darren Kilgore from Faith Angus Farm, Chris Earl from CK 6, Will Mayes and Dallas Woltemath from ZWT Ranch, Lex Carter and Robert Whitacre from Breeder Link, Brent Sadler from Sadler Ranches, Brad and Melissa Elmore, Jake Tiedeman from Baldridge Tiedeman, Jake Phillips, and Bruce and Amie Stertzbach.

    Mentioned in this Episode:

    MontanaRanchAngus.com

    BruinRanch.com

    ShadyBrookAngus Farm.com

    Facebook @AngusUnderground

    Instagram @AngusUnderground

    Contact AngusUnderground@Yahoo.com or call (406) 210-1366 if you are interested in becoming a sponsor for Angus Underground.

    InsureMyBull.com

    HooverAngus.com

    American Angus Association

    National Western Stock Show

    Parry Angus

    Faith Angus Farm

    CK6 Consulting

    ZWT Ranch

    Breeder Link

    Sadler Ranches

    Baldridge Tiedeman

    Stertzbach Cattle Company


    Quotes:

    • “I found a way to take genetics which I love. But bring it to good people which I love more.” [14:57] - Chris
    • “I saw a God given animal that can take grass anywhere in the country anywhere and turn it into a product that has value to the market, and I really saw it as a way to sustain people.” [16:16] - Chris
    • “I want genetics to support great people.” [16:40] - Chris
    • “When you can contribute to somebody else's growth, take advantage of that. Will you ever get paid back? Yes. Will you get paid back in dollars? Not necessarily, but the gratification you get out of being able to help somebody down the road is worth more than you could ever write a check for. ” [31:06] - Darren
    • “When young people approach us, we detect that enthusiasm. The switch flips and we want to help that person. So that's what it's all about.” [34:27]
    • “I think that's the passion of cattle people. We are family oriented, and you always want to pass on what you did to your kids. A new generation.” [1:45:01] - Bruce

    Learn more about our sponsor, Montana Ranch, by visiting MontanaRanchAngus.com.


    NWSS Conversations — Part 1 Jan 26, 2024
    Show notes

    David and Joe report from the National Western Stock Show. First, they sit down with American Angus Association CEO Mark McCully and Angus Genetics Inc. President Kelly Retallick. Then, they are joined by American Angus Association board members Darrell Stevenson, Mark Ahearn, and Smitty Lamb.

    Mentioned in this Episode:

    MontanaRanchAngus.com

    BruinRanch.com

    ShadyBrookAngus Farm.com

    Facebook @AngusUnderground

    Instagram @AngusUnderground

    Contact AngusUnderground@Yahoo.com or call (406) 210-1366 if you are interested in becoming a sponsor for Angus Underground.

    InsureMyBull.com

    HooverAngus.com

    American Angus Association

    National Western Stock Show

    Angus Genetics Inc.


    Quotes:

    • “It’s critical that we as an industry, American Angus Association, help propel this, and show them what we’re all about.” [26:53]
    • “Instead of fighting for the environmental or ‘sustainable issues’ we need to educate these communities how vital we are not only for food security but for the general health and well-being of the environment as well.” — Darrell [28:12]
    • “We have a very diverse membership, and we have to keep that diversity in mind when we make these decisions.” [32:07]
    • “We don’t talk about accuracy enough.” — Smitty [56:32]
    • “Diversity is key and critical to our success.” [1:08:32]
    • “It's so important for young people to continue to be involved in our breed and understand what we do.” — Kelly [1:12:22]
    • “Spending time on our breeding objectives is one of the most important things we can do to make a genetic change because you’ve got to know where you want to go in order to see the results.” — Kelly [1:17:05]

    Learn more about our sponsor, Montana Ranch, by visiting MontanaRanchAngus.com.


    All Things Repro Jan 12, 2024
    Show notes

    It’s a full crew this week as they welcome a special guest, Dr. Tim Gibbs of Trans Ova Genetics, where he currently serves as a Professional Services Veterinarian. He discusses many repro topics including IVF techniques with colleagues, the importance of timing insemination with ovulation, IVF technology vs. conventional flushing, FSH donations, and variations in protocols. Dr. Tim also shares his thoughts on the future of improving IVF conception rates and takes listener questions on embryo quality, the age at which cows start to decline in embryo production, and how the breeding for terminal traits has changed in the success of Angus cows.

    Mentioned in this Episode:

    MontanaRanchAngus.com

    BruinRanch.com

    ShadyBrookAngus Farm.com

    Facebook @AngusUnderground

    Instagram @AngusUnderground

    Contact AngusUnderground@Yahoo.com or call (406) 210-1366 if you are interested in becoming a sponsor for Angus Underground.

    Trans Ova Genetics


    Quotes:

    • “Reproduction is five times more important to profits than any other trait.” [13:41]
    • “One little thing by itself might not matter, but all those little things done perfectly, is what makes a difference in having great success or just average success.” — Tim [23:49]
    • “I think the best is yet to come on improving that conception rate.” — Tim [48:40]
    • “It's a blend of art and science, and everyone's going to be a little bit different and what they think works the best for them and what they think is going to be feasible for the client to pull off.” — Tim [26:16 ]

    Learn more about our sponsor, Montana Ranch, by visiting MontanaRanchAngus.com.


    The National Western Stock Show and Foundation Angus Sale Dec 29, 2023
    Show notes

    David and Vince are joined by special guests Dave Mullins from SaleRing.live and Matt McFarlane from M3 Marketing Services to discuss the very exciting upcoming National Western Stock Show and the Foundation Angus Sale. They highlight the distinctive features of this year’s sale, which is divided into two parts: Thursday’s live cattle and picks/flushes, and Saturday’s embryos, boasting representation from 24‒25 states and offering world-class selections. The event is anticipated to be a gathering of the who’s who in Angus genetics.

    Beyond revenue generation, this is a one-of-a-kind family-friendly event where participants have the chance to network on the industry’s largest stage.

    Make sure to mark your calendars for the sale on Thursday, January 11, at 2 p.m., and don’t miss out on the Junior Angus Show before the main event.


    Mentioned in this Episode:

    MontanaRanchAngus.com

    BruinRanch.com

    ShadyBrookAngus Farm.com

    Facebook @AngusUnderground

    Instagram @AngusUnderground

    Contact AngusUnderground@Yahoo.com or call (406) 210-1366 if you are interested in becoming a sponsor for Angus Underground.

    InsureMyBull

    National Western Stock Show

    SaleRing.Live

    M3cattlemarketing.com

    The 4th Annual Dotson Christmas Charity Raffle — donate on VENMO at @greg-dotson-9


    Quotes:

    • “I’m just blown away from start to finish on the sale.” [20:52]
    • “It is truly networking on the industry’s largest stage, and if you’ve never experienced it, you owe it to yourself to go and experience it at least once.” [40:00]

    Learn more about our sponsor, Montana Ranch, by visiting MontanaRanchAngus.com.


    Solutions From the Field Dec 15, 2023
    Show notes

    It’s a warm welcome this week for return guest and friend of the show, Landi McFarland Livingston, owner and operator of Hoover Angus in Ellston, Iowa. Landi talks about Hoover’s history of over 95 years in the biz and the upcoming sales she is excited about before getting into the main topic regarding the new indexes and EPDs. A few of the questions discussed include: are EPDs reflective of what we are observing on the ranch? Do we have enough data that went into formulating the EPDs and most importantly, how do we get more phenotypic data submitted to build accuracy?

    At the end, the guys promote a very special event for charity, the 4th Annual Dotson Christmas Charity Raffle.


    Mentioned in this Episode:

    MontanaRanchAngus.com

    BruinRanch.com

    ShadyBrookAngus Farm.com

    Facebook @AngusUnderground

    Instagram @AngusUnderground

    Contact AngusUnderground@Yahoo.com or call (406) 210-1366 if you are interested in becoming a sponsor for Angus Underground.

    GeneBrokers.com

    Hoover Angus

    The 4th Annual Dotson Christmas Charity Raffle — donate on VENMO at @greg-dotson-9


    Quotes:

    • “We're excited to be counting down to 100 years in the Angus business.” — Landi [9:07]
    • “The goal of all these new traits, these new EPDs, these new indexes should be aimed at providing accurate selection tools for our commercial bull customers, but, what we’re seeing on the paper does not necessarily translate to what we are seeing at the ranch or the farm.” [12:57]
    • “As accuracy goes down, and as phenotypic data goes down, we need to be more cautious.” — Landi [19:22]
    • “I feel genomics are weighted too heavily in the genetic evaluation.” — Landi [20:32]
    • “We can never have too much. We need our data and we need it from everyone.” — Landi [45:11]
    • “I encourage you to collect and measure and accurately turn the data because we as a breed cannot get stronger and better unless we’re all pulling in the same direction and turning in the data.” [47:08]
    • “If we want accurate predictions, we've got to give them the data.” [51:04]
    • “If you consider yourself a breeder, if you consider yourself a positive contributor to the gene pool of beef cattle in America, and this is no matter if you have 10 head or 1,000 head, then “we,” meaning the American Angus Association, need data from you.” [1:29:11]

    Learn more about our sponsor, Montana Ranch, by visiting MontanaRanchAngus.com.


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