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    Allyship in Action

    I left Corporate America because the workplace culture sucked.

    That realization was my personal pivot point, and it’s the entire driving force behind my podcast, Allyship in Action.

    Inclusive workplace culture doesn’t happen by accident. It is built through intentional, consistent choices. In every episode of Allyship in Action, my goal is simple. My goal is to cut through the noise, skip the performative shiny stuff, and deliver real, practical tools that turn good intentions into sustainable workplace culture change.

    Here is the core summary of what Allyship in Action is all about, and how all leaders can be better allies.

    From Performative Statements to Everyday Practice

    We’ve all seen standard corporate declarations like posting a statement on social media or making a grand pledge. While public support isn’t inherently bad, true allyship begins when the cameras are off. Allyship isn’t a badge you wear or a title you give yourself. Allyship is a verb. It requires continuous learning, unlearning, and showing up even when things get messy or uncomfortable.

    In our conversations with workplace culture experts, we repeatedly unpack how real allies move from passive empathy to proactive intervention. That means noticing who gets interrupted in meetings, recognizing whose ideas are credited, and ensuring that opportunities are distributed equitably across the entire team.

    Rewiring Workplace Culture for True Inclusion

    A healthy workplace culture isn’t created by ping-pong tables or free snacks. Inclusive workplace cultures are built on psychological safety, fairness, and trust. For genuine inclusion to take root, organizations must audit the subtle systems that drive daily behavior. How are your meetings structured? How are performance reviews conducted? Who holds the informal power, and how is feedback delivered?

    On the podcast, we showcase practical tactics—like rotating an Inclusion Booster role during weekly staff meetings to monitor airtime and ensure introverted or underrepresented voices are heard. When you design everyday workflows with inclusion in mind, you stop relying on heroic individual acts and start embedding equity into the DNA of your organization.

    Protecting the Pipeline and How Inclusion Drives Talent Retention

    There is both a deep human case and a rock-solid business case for DEI. In today’s shifting marketplace, talent retention is one of the single biggest operational challenges leaders face. High performers, especially women, racially diverse team members, neurodivergent colleagues, and Gen Z workers, simply will not stay where they have to mask their true selves or fight uphill against systemic microaggressions.

    When employees feel seen, heard, and valued for their unique lived experiences, engagement skyrockets, innovation thrives, and turnover drops. Protecting your talent pipeline isn’t about complex retention gimmicks; it’s about fostering an environment where people know, without a shadow of a doubt, that they belong.

    Engaging People with Power

    One of our biggest research insights is that inclusion work stalls when it remains isolated in ERGs or HR departments. Without people in positions of power actively engaged as allies, systemic progress hits a ceiling. Powerful leaders often stay on the sidelines out of a fear of making a mistake or saying the wrong thing.

    Allyship in Action serves as a compassionate, pushback-proof invitation for leaders to step up. Allyship isn’t about having all the answers or acting like a superhero. It’s about having the humility to say, “I don’t know, but I’m here to listen, learn, and leverage my influence to help.”

    Allyship is a Continuous Journey

    Allyship is progress over perfection. It’s a practice. We are all works in progress. If we want better workplaces, we have to stay curious, challenge our own blind spots, and commit to taking small, consistent micro-actions every single day.

    When we do allyship well, we don’t just change our teams, we also redefine what it means to lead for all.

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    Latest Episodes:
    306: What's In It for Me for an Ally Aug 17, 2025
    Show notes

    This episode reveals the crucial "What's In It For Me" (WIIFM) for allies, moving beyond performative actions to genuine, sustained allyship.

    Discover the compelling human and business cases for inclusion: from increased happiness and longevity to significant boosts in profitability (up to 39% higher) and innovation (up to 19% higher revenue). Learn how Gen Z's expectations make inclusion non-negotiable for future leaders. This chapter provides tools to identify your unique strengths and embrace allyship as a vital leadership quality.


    305: Reframing Power as a Chance to be an Ally Aug 10, 2025
    Show notes

    Inspired by Audre Lorde's powerful words, this episode explores how we can leverage our inherent power for good. Bernadette Smith's journey for LGBTQ+ marriage equality highlights how allies with power can fundamentally shift systems.

    We reveal why power often feels invisible to those who hold it, and how underestimating our own influence hinders allyship. Discover the critical distinction between "power over" and "power with," advocating for a collaborative approach where power is shared, not hoarded. This episode challenges you to recognize your unique sources of power, align them with your values, and use them to create a more equitable and inclusive environment for everyone.


    304: Turning Fear Into Fuel as Allies Aug 03, 2025
    Show notes

    This episode dives into the real, often uncomfortable, fears that can hold people with power back from being allies. We confront common misperceptions, like the "zero-sum game" mentality, and the anxieties around status, relevance, and making mistakes in the workplace.

    Through compelling stories and expert insights, we'll expose why inclusion work can be imperfect, yet crucial. Learn to transform these fears into fuel, embracing vulnerability, curiosity, and the courage to challenge the status quo. Discover how active allyship isn't about being perfect, but about taking intentional, consistent action for a more equitable workplace for all.


    303: Welcome to the We Want You Book Series Jul 27, 2025
    Show notes

    Ever feel like you're on autopilot, navigating work without seeing its underlying systems? Like fish unaware of water, we often miss the crucial "water" of our workplace environment. This podcast invites you to consciously see this water and understand how others experience it differently.

    We'll explore how diversity, inclusion, and equity are vital for a thriving workplace. Discover allyship as intentional actions leveraging your power for good, transforming your impact and organization. Learn from experts about true allyship and its business imperative in our increasingly diverse world.

    This is your official invitation to become an active ally. Whether you're a seasoned leader or just curious, we'll provide practical tools for individual, team, and organizational allyship. Dive in to gain new perspectives and help create better waters for everyone at work.

    Ready to start your allyship journey?


    302: Beyond Milestones, A New Look at Profound Autism with Sarah Kernion Jul 13, 2025
    Show notes

    This podcast episode features Sarah Kernion, a writer, podcast host of "The Inchstones Podcast," and mother of two profoundly autistic, nonspeaking children. Kernion advocates for a new conversation around profound autism, focusing on neurobiological barriers and redefining advocacy to prioritize presence, effort, and dignity over milestone achievements. She emphasizes the urgent need for distinct, research-grounded discussions on profound autism, particularly regarding the disproportionate caregiving burden on mothers and its impact on their careers.

    Key Takeaways:
    • Redefining Profound Autism Advocacy: Sarah Kernion champions a shift in the conversation surrounding profound autism. She highlights the need to focus on neurobiological barriers like apraxia, dyspraxia, and sensory processing disorder, advocating for research urgency, scientific rigor, and a civil rights reframing to include profoundly autistic individuals often overlooked in mainstream neurodiversity discussions. Her work redefines advocacy around presence, effort, and dignity rather than traditional milestone achievements.
    • The Power of Maternal Intuition and Shared Stories: Kernion stresses the importance of a mother's primal intuition as a crucial "data point" in understanding and advocating for their children with profound autism. She encourages mothers to trust this inner knowing and use it to inform care and support. The conversation also underscores the power of one-on-one connections and shared stories among caregivers and within professional settings to foster understanding, reduce isolation, and build psychological safety.
    • Addressing the Caregiving Burden and Workplace Impact: The podcast sheds light on the immense and often unsustainable caregiving demands placed on mothers of profoundly autistic children. This burden frequently leads to career plateaus or plummeting for women, highlighting a systemic problem where workplaces are not adequately set up to support these caregivers. Kernion suggests that leaders sharing their own experiences with caregiving can foster a more inclusive and understanding environment, ultimately benefiting both employees and companies.

    Learn more at https://saturdaysstory.com/.


    301: How to Weave DEI Into Your Culture with Melissa Ng Goldner Jul 06, 2025
    Show notes

    Are you tired of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) initiatives that feel like lip service? In this powerful episode, we sit down with Melissa Ng Goldner, Head of Strategy at Coqual, to uncover how leading organizations are moving past performative DEI to create truly equitable and thriving workplaces. Melissa, a daughter of Chinese immigrants, brings a unique perspective on intersectionality, combining cultural insight, data fluency, and bold storytelling to drive real business outcomes.

    Discover how organizations are navigating the current landscape, operationalizing fairness, and redesigning power structures to future-proof their talent strategies. If you're a leader wrestling with how to embed DEI into the very fabric of your organization, or simply curious about what "precision allyship" truly means, this episode is a must-listen!

    3 Key Takeaways:
    • DEI is Embedding, Not Bolting On: Learn why successful DEI initiatives are deeply integrated into an organization's DNA—from hiring and performance reviews to decision-making processes—making them incredibly difficult to unravel. Melissa explains that what's being "washed away" are the initiatives that were simply "bolted on" as easy-to-remove add-ons.
    • The Power of Proactive Measurement: Move beyond lagging indicators like hiring and promotion rates. Discover the importance of measuring "smoke signals" like psychological safety as a proactive way to identify issues and ensure a culture where dissent is supported and difficult conversations can thrive.
    • Context is King: Tailoring DEI for Global Success: The "one-size-fits-all" approach to DEI is outdated. Melissa emphasizes the critical need for global organizations to move away from generic strategies and instead lean into local context, culture, and nuances, recognizing that "belonging is going to look different in London, Lagos, and Louisville."

    Learn more at https://coqual.org/


    300: The Gender Competition Gap with Katy Milkman and Sophia Pink Jun 29, 2025
    Show notes

    Katy Milkman is the James G. Dinan Professor at the Wharton School, the host of Charles Schwab's Choiceology podcast, and co-directs the Behavior Change for Good Initiative. Sophia Pink is a PhD student at the Wharton School studying decision-making and behavior change. They join Julie Kratz on the Allyship in Action podcast to discuss their new research on the gender gap in competition. They highlight that women are, on average, less likely to enter competitions (like applying for jobs or promotions) than equally qualified men, a phenomenon observed across many decades and countries, even at the top of the labor market.

    Key takeaways form this conversation:

    • The Persistent Gender Gap in Competitive Environments and Its Consequences: The discussion begins by establishing the well-documented phenomenon that women, on average, are less likely to enter competitions (like applying for jobs or promotions) than equally qualified men. The speakers emphasize that while this reluctance is not inherently negative in all contexts, it can significantly disadvantage women in crucial career advancement opportunities, particularly for leadership roles that often require navigating multiple competitive stages. This theme highlights the problem and its potential impact on gender equity in the workplace.

    • Leveraging Psychological Insights for Intervention: The Power of Stereotype Reactance: The central focus of the new research is the innovative application of "stereotype reactance" as a potential solution. The researchers hypothesized and found that informing women about the existing gender gap in competition could paradoxically increase their likelihood of applying for jobs. This is attributed to women's potential desire to resist conforming to negative stereotypes and a motivation to take action against the observed inequality. This theme underscores the use of behavioral science principles to design effective interventions for addressing the gender gap.

    • Systemic and Just-in-Time Approaches for Organizational Change: The conversation moves beyond individual behavior change to discuss broader organizational strategies. Recommendations include implementing "default" mechanisms where individuals are automatically considered for opportunities unless they opt out, and providing timely reminders or prompts at the point of decision-making. The speakers emphasize that while long-term cultural shifts are challenging, these more immediate, systemic adjustments and "just-in-time" interventions can create a more equitable playing field by mitigating the impact of confidence barriers and internalized norms. This theme focuses on practical, actionable steps organizations can take to address the competition gap and promote gender equity.

    Actionable Allyship Takeaway:

    When you see a woman hesitating to pursue an opportunity for which she is qualified, gently remind her of the gender competition gap by saying something like, "Hey, men tend to apply for this, don't let gender stereotypes hold you back," to encourage her to take the chance .

    Check out their research at: https://pubsonline.informs.org/doi/10.1287/orsc.2024.19563


    299: Diversifying is the Best Way to Grow Your Business with Charlene Polite Corley and Stacie De Armas Jun 22, 2025
    Show notes

    This episode of the Allyship in Action Podcast with Julie Kratz features Charlene Polite Corley, Nielsen's VP of Diverse Insights and Partnerships, and Stacie De Armas, Senior Vice President of Diverse Intelligence & Initiatives at Nielsen.

    Together we discuss the long-term value of diversity for businesses, emphasizing that engaging historically excluded consumers is crucial for growth and brand loyalty. Stacie and Charlene highlight that while people can be "trickier" than money, diversifying your workforce and your approach to consumers is as important as diversifying your financial portfolio.

    Some key takeaways from this conversation:

    • Diversity is a significant driver of business growth and ROI: Engaging with historically excluded consumer groups is essential for long-term business growth as they represent untapped markets and offer greater potential for building brand loyalty and achieving higher returns on marketing investment.
    • Understanding nuanced cultural and consumption habits is crucial for effective marketing: A "copy-paste" approach to marketing is ineffective. Brands need to develop a deeper understanding of the media consumption habits and cultural nuances of diverse audiences to connect authentically and build lasting relationships. Data shows, for example, that Black, Hispanic, and Asian audiences spend significantly more time online.
    • Centering diverse narratives benefits everyone and creates broader cultural impact: Focusing on representing specific communities authentically in content and advertising doesn't exclude other groups. Instead, it provides "windows" into different experiences, enriching everyone's understanding and often leading to broader cultural trends and significant financial success, as seen in sports and film.

    Actionable Allyship Takeaway:

    Organizations and individuals should actively lean into fear and commit to an inclusive data strategy, continually seeking to understand and meet diverse consumers where they are, knowing that it's both the right thing to do and a smart business decision that drives growth and loyalty, regardless of external pressures.

    Learn more about Charlene Polite Corley and Stacie De Armas and their research at:

    • https://www.nielsen.com/insights/2025/connecting-black-america/
    • https://www.nielsen.com/news-center/2025/nielsen-report-asian-american-audiences-are-reshaping-sports-digital-media-and-beauty-trends/
    • https://www.nielsen.com/about-us/business-inclusion-impact-belonging/hispanic/

    298: The ROI of Neuroinclusion with Keivan Stassun Jun 15, 2025
    Show notes

    Keivan Stassun is the Director of the Frist Center for Autism & Innovation at Vanderbilt University. He joins this week's Allyship in Action Podcast epidsode to unpack how to get the full ROI when appropriately practicing neuroinclusion.

    Key Takeaways

    • Neurodiversity drives innovation and strengthens teams: Keivan's experience in astrophysics, particularly the groundbreaking discovery made by his neurodiverse team, powerfully illustrates how embracing different cognitive styles leads to novel problem-solving and enhanced outcomes. Clear communication, beneficial for everyone, becomes essential in neurodiverse teams, ultimately making the entire team more effective.
    • Support for autistic individuals needs to extend into adulthood: While significant progress has been made in early intervention for autism, there's a critical need for increased focus and investment in supporting autistic adults in higher education and the workforce. This includes providing appropriate accommodations, fostering inclusive environments, and recognizing the unique strengths and contributions of this community.
    • Creating inclusive opportunities benefits both individuals and organizations: Models like The Precisionists Inc. (TPI) demonstrate that tailored support and understanding of neurodivergent needs can lead to high-quality work, increased employee loyalty, and reduced errors. By shifting perspectives and implementing practical accommodations, businesses can tap into a valuable talent pool and achieve tangible benefits.

    Key Quotes

    • "I'm absolutely convinced that new discoveries and innovations happen because the team invited and included and supported the full diversity of thought."

    • "There has been so much less investment has been autistic people who are over 18 years old where people spend the majority of their lives in adulthood."

    Actionable Allyship Takeaway:

    Recognize and actively leverage the unique strengths and talents of neurodiverse individuals while also providing necessary support and accommodations. Keivan emphasizes that focusing on both the support needs and the strengths of autistic individuals is crucial. He provides examples of how companies can benefit from the talents of neurodiverse employees (e.g., employee loyalty, attention to detail) while also highlighting the importance of providing appropriate accommodations to ensure their success.

    Find Keivan at https://my.vanderbilt.edu/kstassun/ and find Julie at https://www.nextpivotpoint.com/


    297: Deep Listening Strategies with Emily Kasriel Jun 08, 2025
    Show notes

    Emily Kasriel is the author of Deep Listening: Transform your relationships with family, friends and foes. She joins the Allyship in Action Podcast this week to share insightful perspectives and practical tips on deep listening.

    Key takeaways from the conversation:

    • Deep listening goes beyond active listening. It's not just about repeating or paraphrasing, but about being truly present, understanding the emotions and underlying messages, and reflecting those back with humility.
    • Self-awareness is crucial. Recognizing our own biases and "shadows" allows us to listen more openly to others.
    • Silence is a powerful tool. Creating space in conversations allows for deeper reflection, creativity, and can shift power dynamics.
    • Curiosity is key. Approaching conversations with a genuine desire to learn and understand, rather than to debate or convince, fosters connection. Asking about the origins of someone's beliefs can be particularly helpful.
    • Listening doesn't equal agreement. It's important to remember that understanding someone's perspective doesn't mean you endorse it.
    • Connecting with those who hold different views can be transformative. It can combat loneliness and foster social cohesion by recognizing our shared humanity.

    Actionable Allyship Takeaway:

    Cultivate curiosity and seek to understand the origins of others' beliefs, especially those different from your own. Emily emphasizes the importance of asking "what in your life experience has led you to feel what you do?" when engaging with someone who holds differing views. She explains that this approach can foster connection and understanding, even in the face of disagreement, by humanizing the other person's perspective and providing context.

    For those interested in learning more, Emily's book, "Deep Listening: Transform your relationships with family, friends and foes," is available for preorder and will be released in the US on June 24th. You can also connect with her on LinkedIn and explore her website, https://www.emilykasriel.com/ , for more information on her work. Find Julie at https://www.nextpivotpoint.com/


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