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Public Defenders Sajid Khan and Avi Singh podcast on the criminal system on Aider and Abettor.

The show includes discussions about the mismatch between the criminal system’s purported values and actual function.

Sajid Khan is a public defender in San Jose, CA. Sajid is a the author of Closing Arguments, a blog focused on criminal law and social justice. His work is published by the National Association of Public Defense. Sajid graduated from UC Berkeley and UC Hastings College of Law.

Avi Singh is a public defender in San Jose, CA. Avi graduated from UC Davis and Harvard Law School. He is on the Board of the Asian American Criminal Trial Lawyers’ Association. Avi coaches a high school mock trial team that competes in the Constitutional Rights Foundation program.

You can follow @thesajidkhan and @avanindar on Twitter.

Please send comments and suggestions to aiderandabettor@gmail.com. You can also follow us on twitter @aiderandabettor. Our website is https://medium.com/@aiderandabettor

Latest Episodes:

Rio Grande Nov 02, 2019

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Sajid and Avi sit down with Deputy Public Defender Perla Garcia. Perla spoke out about her experience coming to the US from Nicaragua when she was twelve with three younger brothers after the tragic deaths of Oscar Alberto Martinez and his 23-month-old daughter Angie Valeria. Perla describes her multiple attempts to get to the United States (she was twelve and had three younger siblings with her) and her path to public defense. Lee Rosevere composed the intro and outro. Music played during conversation composed by Omniboi, Lee Rosevere, Makiah Beats, Trizzy Track, and Ryan Little.

Live Pod with SF Public Defender Mano Raju Sep 21, 2019

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Avi and Sajid recorded a live show with SF Public Defender Mano Raju at Hastings College of Law in San Francisco. Mano talked about his background and path to public defense, his vision for the Public Defender’s Office in San Francisco, and where he believes the practice should and could go. Mano took audience questions. At the end of the pod, the three shared a thing. The event was sponsored by the South Asian Bar Association of Northern California, the Hastings Criminal Law Society, and the South Asian Law Student Association of Hastings. @leerosevere composed the intro and outro of the pod.

Chesa Boudin Jul 07, 2019

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Avi and Sajid interview San Francisco Deputy Public Defender Chesa Boudin about his campaign for San Francisco District Attorney. They discuss Chesa's motivation for running and talk through some of his reform proposals. Learn more about Chesa's campaign here https://www.chesaboudin.com/ and https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/24/us/chesa-boudin-san-francisco-da.html Follow Chesa on Twitter @chesaboudin @leerosevere composed the intro and outro of the pod.

Haste Over Humanity May 16, 2019

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Sajid and Avi discuss the execution of Dominique Ray and the Supreme Court’s decision to lift a stay of execution despite religious discrimination. This one is from February. Lots of things have happened since the recording, including a stay of execution in the case of Patrick Murphy based on religious discrimination. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/28/us/politics/texas-execution-buddhist-inmate.html @leerosevere (intero/outro) and @omniboi (break) composed music played during the pod.

An Incomprehensible Series of Gross Mistakes Mar 29, 2019

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Avi and Sajid get back together with Marc Bookman from the Atlantic Center for Capital Representation. Marc talks about his work on behalf of Kareem Johnson. He gives an update on Ricky Olds (https://soundcloud.com/user-139217541/14-going-on-life-without-parole). They also get an update on Krasner’s work in Philadelphia. The Atlantic Center put out video on Ricky Olds. See it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XtySsPOP9w Marc refers to this article: https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/08/the-confessions-of-innocent-men/278363/ Music in this episode is composed by @leeroservere, @omniboi, and @ryanperreault (fellow public defender)

Bad Defense Bracket Mar 04, 2019

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This is The Bad Defense bracket. Avi and Sajid join public defenders Kristin Carter and Chris Givens to debate the worst defense attorneys from movies, television, books, documentaries, and podcasts. @leerosevere composed the intro and outro. @omniboi and @chalolo composed music played during the discussion.

The Sound Of The Police Dec 20, 2018

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Avi and Sajid talk to Sergeant Jeremy Jones. Jeremy has been with the Santa Clara Sheriff’s Office for around 10 years. Jeremy grew up on the East Side of San Jose. His father has been in and out of jail for much of Jeremy’s life. He talks about how experiences with his father and police shaped his approach to policing and service. This includes working alongside incarcerated people to build obstacles for a charitable race (http://heroesrunscc.com) and providing gifts to the children of people in jail. This conversation is different that previous episodes. Hope you listen and enjoy. Music in this episode is composed by Lee Rosevere, Omniboi, and Chris Zabriskie.

Justice for Dazia Lee Nov 14, 2018

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In this episode of Aider & Abettor, Avi and Sajid talk about a North Carolina Sheriff’s decision to charge Dazia Lee with involuntary manslaughter of her one year old child. Ms. Lee’s son slipped through her arms after a car accident in flood waters. The discussion goes into some of the moral and legal reasons against turning this tragedy into a criminal prosecution. In the second segment, they debrief on some criminal justice victories from the midterms. Music in this episode is by @leerosevere. The segment shift is by Chris Zabriskie.

We Gotta Make a Change Oct 01, 2018

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Avi and Sajid are joined by veteran Public Defender Brian Matthews. They discuss a wave of criminal justice reform in California. The topics include the elimination of cash bail, laws designed to protect kids from prosecution, and a major change to the felony murder rule. The intro clip is Senator Nancy Skinner asking a Public Safety Committee to approve her bill reforming the felony murder rule. Music in this episode is by @leerosevere and @omniboi.

Gag Order Aug 13, 2018

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In this episode of Aider & Abettor, Avi and Sajid react to an order by Ohio Judge John Russo to gag Franklyn Williams with red duct tape. This type of breakdown does not happen in a vacuum. They discuss the larger context, possible ways to prevent this from happening, and some of their experiences of courtroom volatility. Music in this episode is by @omniboi and @leerosevere. Please check out and support those artists. If you enjoy the episode, please share and review.

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