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    AI Inside

    AI Inside is a weekly podcast about the AI changing technology, work, and daily life. Tech journalist Jason Howell and media scholar Jeff Jarvis cover the week’s biggest AI news and interview the people actually building these systems, including product leaders from Google DeepMind, Microsoft Research, Anthropic, OpenAI, and Meta. Past guests include Yann LeCun (Turing Award winner, founder of AMI Labs), Tulsee Doshi (Head of Product, Gemini at Google DeepMind), Saleema Amershi (Microsoft Research AI Frontiers), Nick Fox (Google SVP Knowledge & Information), and Ben Goertzel (SingularityNET). New episodes every Wednesday at aiinside.show.

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    Meta’s AI Ad Takeover Jun 04, 2025
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    This week on AI Inside, Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis explore Meta’s plan to fully automate ad creation and targeting by 2026, the rise of hyper-personalized ads, and the risks and rewards of letting AI take over decisions once reserved for humans. We also break down the New York Times’ landmark AI licensing deal with Amazon, the music industry’s negotiations with generative AI startups, and Google’s new app for running AI models on your phone.

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    CHAPTERS:

    0:00:00 - Podcast begins

    ⁠0:05:19⁠ - Meta Aims to Fully Automate Ad Creation Using AI

    ⁠0:15:33⁠ - Meta plans to replace humans with AI to assess privacy and societal risks

    ⁠0:22:14 - Amazon and The New York Times’ AI deal signals a new wave of publisher partnerships

    ⁠0:29:27 - Major record labels are reportedly in licensing talks with AI firms Udio and Suno

    ⁠0:37:43 - Google’s brilliant new AI app might convince you to buy a more expensive phone

    ⁠0:45:46 - Mary Meeker's first report in four years is focused on AI

    ⁠0:56:23 - This Year’s Hot New Tool for Chefs? ChatGPT.

    ⁠1:02:57⁠ - Real TikTokers are pretending to be Veo 3 AI creations for fun, attention

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    The Veo-fication of Hollywood May 28, 2025
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    Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis are back for our weekly AI deep-dive. We cover Anthropic’s new Claude models and the “new model fatigue” problem, headline-grabbing AI blackmail tests and what they really mean, Google’s Veo 3 leap for generative video and what it means for creators, Duolingo’s AI-first shift and the jobs panic it sparked, plus a look at the “AI 2027” doomsday scenario and why it’s more fiction than fact.

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    CHAPTERS:

    0:00:00 - Podcast begins

    0:03:17 - Anthropic launches Claude 4, its most powerful AI model yet

    0:11:10 - AI system resorts to blackmail if told it will be removed

    0:19:49 - AI revolt: New ChatGPT model refuses to shut down when instructed

    0:22:19 - Inside Google's plan to have Hollywood make AI look less doomsday

    0:25:18 - Google’s Veo 3 AI video generator is a slop monger’s dream

    0:29:53 - Joanna Sterns stars in WSJ Veo film

    0:41:44 - Duolingo CEO Clarifies AI-First Plan After Backlash, Says AI Won’t Replace Employees

    0:44:03 - Meanwhile, Axios is in a full-blown jobs panic

    0:46:12 - Anthropic appoints Netflix Chairman Reed Hastings to AI startup’s board of directors

    0:49:19 - Nick Clegg says asking artists for use permission would ‘kill’ the AI industry

    0:54:20 - Ben Evans AI preso

    1:00:38 - AI 2027

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    Google's Nick Fox: Reinventing Google Search with AI Mode May 21, 2025
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    Jason Howell sits down with Google’s Nick Fox at Google IO to reveal how AI is reinventing iconic products like Search and Maps, the surprising ways users are embracing AI Overviews and AI Mode, the challenge of balancing innovation with Google’s trademark simplicity, and what the future holds for web publishers and monetization. Jeff Jarvis joins for news discussion including Microsoft Build, and breaking news of OpenAI's big deal with Jony Ive.


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    CHAPTERS:

    0:00:00 - Podcast begins

    02:39 - Google Unveils A.I. Chatbot, Signaling a New Era for Search

    10:59 - Warby Parker pops 16% on $150 million Google smart glasses partnership

    21:24 - Google launches stand-alone NotebookLM apps for Android and iOS

    23:12 - OpenAI is buying iPhone designer Jony Ive’s AI devices startup for $6.4 billion

    30:54 - Interview: Introducing Nick Fox and his role at Google

    Nick Fox’s career journey and priorities as head of Search

    Reinventing Google’s core products with AI

    Balancing innovation with responsibility and user trust

    How AI is changing user search behavior

    What users are doing with AI Overviews and AI Mode

    AI’s ability to answer complex, contextual questions

    Distinguishing Google Search, AI Mode, and Gemini Assistant

    Personalization and privacy in AI-powered search

    How Google decides which AI features go where

    Maintaining simplicity as Google Search evolves

    Balancing rapid AI innovation with reliability and trust

    Will AI Mode become the default Google Search experience?

    How AI Mode chooses and ranks web sources

    AI Overviews and the impact on publishers and web traffic

    Monetization strategies for AI in Google Search

    Agentic AI (Project Mariner) and the future of search monetization

    Closing thoughts with Nick Fox

    1:11:19 - Post-interview analysis and reflections

    1:15:19 - Microsoft Build news and AI agent trends

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    Intel’s Robert Hallock: The Rise of AI PCs May 17, 2025
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    Robert Hallock, VP and GM at Intel, joins us for a deep dive into the rise of AI PCs and why they’re more than just a buzzword. We unpack how new hardware accelerators are making smarter, faster, and more private computing possible, and why local, offline AI is about to become as essential as graphics in tomorrow’s laptops. Robert explains Intel’s ecosystem strategy, the real differences between CPUs, GPUs, and NPUs, and what it will take for AI features to reach everyone, not just creative pros but everyday users.

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    CHAPTERS: 0:00:00 - Podcast begins 0:01:41 - Defining the AI PC: What Makes It Different and Why Now? 0:03:47 - Architectural Shifts: How AI PCs Differ from Traditional PCs 0:05:29 - Intel’s Role in the AI Ecosystem: Hardware, Software, and Industry Enablement 0:08:20 - Lessons from the Past: The Intel Web Tablet and Driving Industry Change 0:09:32 - Hardware Evolution: What Needs to Change for AI PCs? 0:11:02 - Real-World AI PC Use Cases: Enterprise, Creative, and Consumer Adoption Waves 0:13:51 - Local vs. Cloud AI: Privacy, Personalization, and the Value of On-Device AI 0:16:50 - Trust and Branding: The Meaning of “AI Inside” for Intel 0:19:26 - Accessibility and User Personas: Who Benefits from AI PCs Today? 0:22:30 - The Graphics-AI Connection: Why GPUs Became Essential for AI Workloads 0:25:10 - The Evolution of GPUs: From Graphics to AI Powerhouses 0:26:56 - Gaming’s Role in Driving AI Adoption 0:28:00 - Historical Tech Drivers: Media, Typography, and Early AI Tools 0:29:37 - The Local AI Movement: Are We at an Inflection Point? 0:30:44 - AI Hardware Breakdown: CPUs, GPUs, and NPUs Explained 0:33:49 - Internal Challenges: Education and Customer Awareness at Intel 0:36:06 - Robert Hallock’s Role at Intel and Closing Thoughts 0:37:17 - Thank you to Robert Hallock and episode wrap-up

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    Hey Gemini, Are We There Yet? May 14, 2025
    Show notes

    Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis are back for another episode of AI Inside. We cover NVIDIA and AMD’s $10B Saudi chip deal, US-Saudi tech politics and China’s AI ambitions, AI leaders flip-flopping on regulation, copyright office drama and AI training fair use, Big Tech’s AI midlife crisis, Google’s Gemini expands to cars and wearables, scam protection for Android, ChatGPT’s impact on student learning, professors caught using AI, authenticity in AI-powered hiring, and a preview of our Intel AIPC interview coming Saturday.


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    CHAPTERS:

    0:03:15 - Nvidia, AMD Sell Chips to Saudi Arabia for AI Data Centers

    0:08:32 - ⁠AI execs used to beg for regulation. Not anymore.⁠

    0:11:46 - The Giants of Silicon Valley Are Having a Midlife Crisis Over AI

    0:17:41 - Trump fires head of Copyright Office two days following report that AI training may not be fair use

    0:28:27 - Audible unveils plans to use AI voices to narrate audiobooks

    0:32:46 - ⁠ Gemini smarts are coming to more Android devices & Android Faithful interview with Patrick Brady, VP of Android for Cars at Google about Gemini on Android Auto

    0:44:55 - The effect of ChatGPT on students’ learning performance, learning perception, and higher-order thinking: insights from a meta-analysis

    0:49:53 - The Professors Are Using ChatGPT, and Some Students Aren’t Happy About It

    0:55:31 - Deepfakes, Scams, and the Age of Paranoia

    0:58:07 - Robert Hallock, Channel Segment GM at Intel talks about the AI PC

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    Altman's Orb Knows Your Humanity May 07, 2025
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    Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis are back for the latest AI Inside. We cover OpenAI’s nonprofit reversal and Musk’s ongoing lawsuit, Altman’s Orb stores for iris-scanning identity, Google’s confusing new AI Mode in search, Gemini 2.5 Pro’s IO Edition and coding challenge, Amazon’s Vulcan robots with a sense of touch, Apple’s AI search comments shaking up stocks, Reddit’s new human verification rules, why admitting AI use sparks distrust at work, an AI-generated impact statement in court, and the Associated Press’ Alberta-Quebec AI blunder.
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    CHAPTERS:


    OpenAI reverses course, says its nonprofit will remain in control of its business operations

    0:12:45 - ⁠Welcome to Sam Altman’s Orb Store

    0:25:38 - ⁠Google: New ways to interact with information in AI Mode

    0:41:42 - ⁠Gemini 2.5 Pro Preview: even better coding performance

    0:44:57 - ⁠Amazon makes ‘fundamental leap forward in robotics’ with device having sense of touch

    0:49:28 - ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple to add AI search partners to Safari as Google usage falls

    0:52:03 - ⁠Reddit will tighten verification to keep out human-like AI bots

    0:54:20 - ⁠Being honest about using AI at work makes people trust you less, research finds

    0:59:53 - ⁠AI of dead Arizona road rage victim addresses killer in court

    1:05:04 - ⁠I smell AI...

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    Emily Bender & Alex Hanna: “The AI Con” May 03, 2025
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    Jeff and Jason sit down with Emily Bender and Alex Hanna, co-authors of The AI Con, to unpack the myths and real-world harms behind today’s AI hype. They discuss why the term “AI” is so often misused, how Big Tech’s models can fail marginalized communities, and why smaller, community-driven AI projects can better serve local needs. The conversation also explores the pitfalls of generative tools, the challenges of democratizing art, and the urgent need for real accountability in the tech industry

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    Emily M. Bender is a Professor of Linguistics at the University of Washington, renowned for her work in computational linguistics, language technology, and as co-author of the influential "Stochastic Parrots" paper. Alex Hanna is a sociologist and Director of Research at the Distributed AI Research Institute (DAIR), whose work focuses on how data in computational technologies shapes racial, gender, and class inequalities. Buy their new book "The AI Con: How to Fight Big Tech’s Hype and Create the Future We Want" at http://thecon.ai

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    CHAPTERS:

    00:00⁠ - Podcast begins

    01:44 - Introducing Emily Bender and Alex Hanna

    02:23 - Why “AI” Is Misleading: Better Terms for Today’s Tech

    04:31 - What Is AI Actually Good For? Real-World Use Cases

    06:29 - Hidden Data Opportunities in AI and Language Models

    07:20 - Community-Driven AI: Real Benefits Beyond Big Tech

    09:45 - The Thai Library Thought Experiment: Why AI Lacks Meaning

    14:23 - Inside DAIR: Building Alternative AI Futures

    ⁠19:13 - AI and Creativity: Remixing, Music, and Fair Compensation

    24:00⁠⁠ - Does AI Democratize Creativity or Homogenize Voices?

    33:47 - Debunking AI Doomerism and TESCREAL: Media’s Role

    40:29 - Mystery AI Hype Theater 3000: Podcast Origins and Mission

    42:07 - Book Launch Details: The AI Con Release Events

    45:07 - Can We Build Effective AI Guardrails?

    50:30 - Synthetic Text Extruding Machine... STEM?

    50:56 - Oxford Comma y/n?

    51:18 - Thank you to Emily Bender and Alex Hanna for joining the AI Inside podcast


    Thank you to Emily Bender and Alex Hanna for joining the AI Inside podcast


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    Slop Social Apr 30, 2025
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    Duolingo will replace contract workers with AI, OpenAI adds shopping to ChatGPT in a challenge to Google, researchers secretly experimented on Reddit users with AI-generated comments, and so much more on the AI Inside podcast!


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    CHAPTERS:

    03:15 - Duolingo will replace contract workers with AI

    12:36 - ⁠Duolingo More Than Doubles Courses as ‘AI-First’ Push Draws Heat⁠

    15:07 - Google launches AI tools for practicing languages through personalized lessons

    16:09 - Generative AI is not replacing jobs or hurting wages at all, say economists

    22:53 - Prompt engineer: The Hottest AI Job of 2023 Is Already Obsolete

    28:10 - Meta’s ChatGPT competitor shows how your friends use AI

    37:45 - Microsoft CEO says up to 30% of the company’s code was written by AI

    39:53 - Altman and Nadella, Who Ignited the Modern AI Boom Together, Are Drifting Apart

    41:21 - OpenAI Adds Shopping to ChatGPT in a Challenge to Google

    42:58 - Researchers secretly experimented on Reddit users with AI-generated comments

    47:53 - Clip from our Interview with Emily Bender and Alex Hanna, authors of The AI Con

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    The Era of Experience Apr 23, 2025
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    Hosts Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis dive into OpenAI’s desire to buy Google Chrome, Perplexity AI’s talks with Samsung and Motorola, Google DeepMind’s claim that AI could cure all disease in a decade, and the Oscars’ decision to allow A.I.—with caveats—and more.


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    CHAPTERS:

    00:01:58 - OpenAI would buy Google's Chrome, exec testifies at trial

    00:13:49 - Perplexity AI in Talks to Integrate Assistant Into Samsung, Motorola Phones

    00:23:13 - AI could cure all disease in a decade, says Google DeepMind CEO— Perplexity’s Aravind Srinivas agrees

    00:29:27 - Draft executive order outlines plan to integrate AI into K-12 schools

    00:36:48 - Google just fired the first shot of the next battle in the AI war

    00:49:18 - IEEE: Google Succeeds With LLMs While Meta and OpenAI Stumble

    00:50:04 - Columbia student suspended over interview cheating tool raises $5.3M to ‘cheat on everything’

    00:58:31 - Oscars OK the Use of A.I., With Caveats

    01:01:09 - ChatGPT burns tens of millions of Softbank dollars listening to you thanking it

    01:03:12 - To stop scraping, Wikipedia releases Kaggle dataset

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    Vegetative Electron Microscopy Doesn't Exist Apr 16, 2025
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    Jeff Jarvis and Jason Howell dive into this week’s AI headlines: OpenAI prototypes a ChatGPT social feed, GPT-4.5 retires as GPT-4.1 arrives, OpenAI boosts memory and chat history features, Nvidia expands US chip production amid export control shakeups, Bill Gates predicts AI’s impact on teaching and medicine, ChatGPT Barbie Box memes challenge creative boundaries, Notion launches AI-powered email, Google’s DolphinGemma tackles dolphin communication, and “vegetative electron microscopy” becomes science’s latest digital artifact.


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    CHAPTERS:

    0:03:52 - OpenAI is building a social network

    0:08:38 - ChatGPT now has a section for your AI-generated images

    0:10:34 - OpenAI’s new GPT-4.1 AI models focus on coding

    0:13:16 - OpenAI's "agentic software engineer"

    0:17:51 - ChatGPT can now remember and reference all your previous chats

    0:24:02 - Nvidia says it plans to manufacture some AI chips in the US

    0:29:09 - Bill Gates says AI is coming for 2 kinds of jobs that once seemed tech-proof

    0:34:31 - ‘She helps cheer me up’: the people forming relationships with AI chatbots

    0:41:13 - A.I. Action Figures Flood Social Media (Accessories Included)

    0:47:28 - Notion Mail is a minimalist but powerful take on email

    0:52:04 - DolphinGemma: How Google AI is helping decode dolphin communication

    0:54:53 - Thought experiment in the National Library of Thailand

    0:59:19 - A weird phrase is plaguing scientific papers – and we traced it back to a glitch in AI training data


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