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    The Every Podcast

    The Every Podcast is Every’s flagship show. Co-hosts Dan Shipper and Natalia Quintero talk with founders, researchers, writers, and operators about what they’re building and how they use AI in their own work. The show also takes you behind the scenes at Every. We share how our team is using and exploring AI, including what we’re trying, what’s working, and what we’re learning along the way.

    Formerly known as AI & I.

    Read more at every.to.

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    She Turned Her Whole Life Into Training Data—For an AI Baby Dec 10, 2025
    Show notes

    Sarah Rose Siskind is incubating two types of intelligence at once: her unborn child, and FetusGPT—an LLM trained on nothing but what she hears and says throughout the day.

    This includes Seinfeld episodes, YouTube videos about lemurs, eight hours of snoring per night—and even conversations with me, all condensed into MP3 and text files that are used to train the AI. Since FetusGPT is learning English from such a narrow, idiosyncratic slice of the world, it mostly babbles right now, and if she swears, it picks that up too.

    FetusGPT is one zany example of how Siskind uses humor to make a bigger point: AI is what we make of it. It’s an approach that feeds through her comedy writing and work as the founder of science and technology communications agency Hello SciCom.

    Wehad Siskind on AI & I to talk about how she uses AI in her creative process as a comedian, and the unexpected support it's become, both practical and emotional, as she navigates pregnancy.

    Want even more?

    Sign up for Every to unlock our ultimate guide to prompting ChatGPT here: https://every.ck.page/ultimate-guide-to-prompting-chatgpt. It’s usually only for paying subscribers, but you can get it here for free.

    To hear more from Dan Shipper:

    Subscribe to Every: https://every.to/subscribe

    Follow him on X: https://twitter.com/danshipper

    Pitch is the AI presentation platform that helps professionals collaborate on, create, and deliver winning slide decks — all while staying on brand: https://pitch.com/use-cases/ai-presentation-maker/?utm_medium=paid-influencer&utm_campaign=every

    Timestamps:

    00:00:00 - Start

    00:01:54 - Introduction

    00:02:03 - How Siskind is running an experiment between her unborn child and an LLM

    00:07:34 - A demo of Siskind’s FetusGPT

    00:15:16 - Siskind’s pick for the funniest LLM

    00:17:12 - How Siskind uses AI in her comedy writing

    00:24:41 - Dan and Siskind use ChatGPT to write a joke together live on the show

    00:37:21 - Why AI is useful even when you don’t use its output directly

    00:44:15 - How Siskind used a ChatGPT project to biohack her energy levels

    00:57:09 - A question we fundamentally couldn’t have asked in pre-ChatGPT times

    01:05:29 - How ChatGPT is a source of emotional support for Siskind in pregnancy

    Links to resources mentioned in the episode:

    Sarah Rose Siskind: https://sarahrosesiskind.com/

    Siskind’s agency Hello SciCom: https://www.hellosci.com/

    Siskind’s book recommendations: I Forced a Bot to Write This Book, The Let Them Theory, Artificial Intelligence: An Illustrated History


    Why Opus 4.5 Just Became the Most Influential AI Model Dec 03, 2025
    Show notes

    The world changed last week—Opus 4.5 is the best coding model Dan has ever used.
    It can keep coding and coding autonomously without tripping over itself—and it marks a completely new horizon for the craft of programming. The dream is here: You can write English, and make software.
    We had Paul Ford on AI & I to talk about it. Ford is the co-founder of Aboard and also a prolific writer. He authored one of Dan’s favorite pieces of technology writing What Is Code?—so he’s the perfect person to unpack this with him.
    We talk about the wonder—and genuine unease—that comes with using tools this powerful. We also get into what people who love technology should care about as the ground under us shifts faster than we can imagine.
    If you found this episode interesting, please like, subscribe, comment, and share!


    Want even more?
    Sign up for Every to unlock our ultimate guide to prompting ChatGPT here: ⁠https://every.ck.page/ultimate-guide-to-prompting-chatgpt⁠. It’s usually only for paying subscribers, but you can get it here for free.


    To hear more from Dan Shipper:
    Subscribe to Every: ⁠https://every.to/subscribe⁠Follow him on X: ⁠https://twitter.com/danshipper⁠


    Head to ⁠ai.studio/build⁠ to create your first app
    Ready to build a site that looks hand-coded—without hiring a developer? Launch your site for free at ⁠Framer.com⁠, and use code DAN to get your first month of Pro on the house!


    Timestamps:
    00:00:00 - Start
    00:01:57 - Introduction
    00:03:28 - How Claude Opus 4.5 made the future feel abruptly close
    00:08:12 - The design principles that make Claude Code a powerful coding tool
    00:10:57 - How Ford uses Claude Code to build real software
    00:20:12 - Why collapsing job titles and roles can feel overwhelming
    00:22:56 - Ford’s take on using LLMs to write
    00:24:09 - A metaphor for weathering existential moments of change
    00:25:45 - What GLP-1s taught Ford about how people adapt to big shifts
    00:49:36 - Why you should care what your LLM was trained on
    00:52:15 - Ford prompts Claude Code to forecast the future of the consulting industry
    00:59:18 - Recognize when an LLM is reflecting your assumptions back to you
    01:12:39 - How large enterprises might adopt AI


    Links to resources mentioned in the episode:
    Paul Ford: ⁠Paul Ford⁠Ford’s company Aboard: ⁠https://aboard.com/⁠The piece Ford wrote for Bloomberg in 2015: ⁠What Is Code?⁠Alan Kay’s concept of a personal computer for children: ⁠https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynabook⁠


    Why Opus 4.5 Just Became the Most Influential AI Model Dec 03, 2025
    Show notes

    The world changed last week—Opus 4.5 is the best coding model Dan has ever used.

    It can keep coding and coding autonomously without tripping over itself—and it marks a completely new horizon for the craft of programming. The dream is here: You can write English, and make software.

    We had Paul Ford on AI & I to talk about it. Ford is the co-founder of Aboard and also a prolific writer. He authored one of Dan’s favorite pieces of technology writing What Is Code?—so he’s the perfect person to unpack this with him.

    We talk about the wonder—and genuine unease—that comes with using tools this powerful. We also get into what people who love technology should care about as the ground under us shifts faster than we can imagine.

    If you found this episode interesting, please like, subscribe, comment, and share!


    Want even more?

    Sign up for Every to unlock our ultimate guide to prompting ChatGPT here: https://every.ck.page/ultimate-guide-to-prompting-chatgpt. It’s usually only for paying subscribers, but you can get it here for free.


    To hear more from Dan Shipper:

    • Subscribe to Every: https://every.to/subscribe
    • Follow him on X: https://twitter.com/danshipper


    Head to ai.studio/build to create your first app

    Ready to build a site that looks hand-coded—without hiring a developer? Launch your site for free at Framer.com, and use code DAN to get your first month of Pro on the house!


    Timestamps:

    00:00:00 - Start

    00:01:57 - Introduction

    00:03:28 - How Claude Opus 4.5 made the future feel abruptly close

    00:08:12 - The design principles that make Claude Code a powerful coding tool

    00:10:57 - How Ford uses Claude Code to build real software

    00:20:12 - Why collapsing job titles and roles can feel overwhelming

    00:22:56 - Ford’s take on using LLMs to write

    00:24:09 - A metaphor for weathering existential moments of change

    00:25:45 - What GLP-1s taught Ford about how people adapt to big shifts

    00:49:36 - Why you should care what your LLM was trained on

    00:52:15 - Ford prompts Claude Code to forecast the future of the consulting industry

    00:59:18 - Recognize when an LLM is reflecting your assumptions back to you

    01:12:39 - How large enterprises might adopt AI


    Links to resources mentioned in the episode:

    • Paul Ford: Paul Ford
    • Ford’s company Aboard: https://aboard.com/
    • The piece Ford wrote for Bloomberg in 2015: What Is Code?
    • Alan Kay’s concept of a personal computer for children: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynabook

    Best of the Pod: Would You Shut Down Your Most Successful Product? The Arc to Dia Story Nov 26, 2025
    Show notes

    If you had millions of people using a product you spent years building, would you kill it?


    That’s exactly what The Browser Company did with Arc.


    Originally recorded in July before The Browser Company’s acquisition by software giant Atlassian earlier this year, we’re republishing this episode because its lessons are truly timeless. Today, the team continues to operate independently under Atlassian’s umbrella.


    The internet backlash when the company killed Arc in May 2025 was intense, but cofounders Josh Miller and Hursh Agrawal saw that AI was about to make the web something you talk to, not just click into. The best home for that assistant was the thing that's already between you and the internet—the browser. And they realized they couldn’t just duct-tape it on to Arc.


    One year of heads-down work later, the team launched Dia in beta, and people are raving about it. Dia is a sleek, fast, browser with AI at its core—it gets better with every tab you open, becoming more and more helpful with time.


    And even though it’s still early, Josh and Hursh’s big pivot looks like one for the ages.


    In this episode of AI & I, Josh and Hursh spoke for the first time in a full-length podcast about their pivot from Arc to Dia. We talked through their decision-making process, the very public backlash the company faced, and the grit it took to stay the course.


    If you found this episode interesting, please like, subscribe, comment, and share!


    Want even more?

    Sign up for Every to unlock our ultimate guide to prompting ChatGPT here: https://every.ck.page/ultimate-guide-to-prompting-chatgpt. It’s usually only for paying subscribers, but you can get it here for free.


    To hear more from Dan Shipper:

    Subscribe to Every: https://every.to/subscribe

    Follow him on X: https://twitter.com/danshipper


    Timestamps:

    00:00:00 - Start

    00:00:48 - Introduction

    00:02:22 - The story of how Dan might've been the CEO of The Browser Company

    00:09:40 - The moment Josh and Hursh knew they had to walk away from Arc

    00:16:59 - How to handle the weight of the unknown in a pivot

    00:23:24 - The prototype-driven culture that kept The Browser Company alive

    00:25:06 - Why having a product loved by millions of users isn't enough

    00:32:12 - The architectural decisions underlying how Dia was built

    00:46:04 - How Dia almost shipped without its best feature

    00:50:45 - The best ways people are using Dia in the wild

    01:07:27 - How Josh and Hursh think about competing with incumbents

    01:17:13 - How romanticism informs the product decisions behind Dia


    Links to resources mentioned in the episode:
    Hursh Agrawal: @hursh
    Josh Miller: @joshm
    More about Dia: https://www.diabrowser.com/
    Writer and investor M.G. Siegler’s essay about the AI browser wars: https://spyglass.org/ai-browser-wars/


    Note: This episode is a rerun from our archives.


    Best of the Pod: Would You Shut Down Your Most Successful Product? The Arc to Dia Story Nov 26, 2025
    Show notes

    If you had millions of people using a product you spent years building, would you kill it?

    That’s exactly what The Browser Company did with Arc.

    Originally recorded in July before The Browser Company’s acquisition by software giant Atlassian earlier this year, we’re republishing this episode because its lessons are truly timeless. Today, the team continues to operate independently under Atlassian’s umbrella.

    The internet backlash when the company killed Arc in May 2025 was intense, but cofounders Josh Miller and Hursh Agrawal saw that AI was about to make the web something you talk to, not just click into. The best home for that assistant was the thing that's already between you and the internet—the browser. And they realized they couldn’t just duct-tape it on to Arc.

    One year of heads-down work later, the team launched Dia in beta, and people are raving about it. Dia is a sleek, fast, browser with AI at its core—it gets better with every tab you open, becoming more and more helpful with time.

    And even though it’s still early, Josh and Hursh’s big pivot looks like one for the ages.

    In this episode of AI & I, Josh and Hursh spoke for the first time in a full-length podcast about their pivot from Arc to Dia. We talked through their decision-making process, the very public backlash the company faced, and the grit it took to stay the course.

    If you found this episode interesting, please like, subscribe, comment, and share!

    Want even more?
    Sign up for Every to unlock our ultimate guide to prompting ChatGPT here: https://every.ck.page/ultimate-guide-to-prompting-chatgpt. It’s usually only for paying subscribers, but you can get it here for free.

    To hear more from Dan Shipper:
    Subscribe to Every: https://every.to/subscribe
    Follow him on X: https://twitter.com/danshipper


    Timestamps:
    00:00:00 - Start
    00:00:48 - Introduction
    00:02:22 - The story of how Dan might've been the CEO of The Browser Company
    00:09:40 - The moment Josh and Hursh knew they had to walk away from Arc
    00:16:59 - How to handle the weight of the unknown in a pivot
    00:23:24 - The prototype-driven culture that kept The Browser Company alive
    00:25:06 - Why having a product loved by millions of users isn't enough
    00:32:12 - The architectural decisions underlying how Dia was built
    00:46:04 - How Dia almost shipped without its best feature
    00:50:45 - The best ways people are using Dia in the wild
    01:07:27 - How Josh and Hursh think about competing with incumbents
    01:17:13 - How romanticism informs the product decisions behind Dia

    Links to resources mentioned in the episode:
    Hursh Agrawal: @hursh
    Josh Miller: @joshm
    More about Dia: https://www.diabrowser.com/
    Writer and investor M.G. Siegler’s essay about the AI browser wars: https://spyglass.org/ai-browser-wars/

    Note: This episode is a rerun from our archives.


    Best of the Pod: Claude Code - How Two Engineers Ship Like a Team of 15 Nov 19, 2025
    Show notes

    If you’re using AI to just write code, you’re missing out.


    Two engineers at Every shipped six features, five bug fixes, and three infrastructure updates in one week—and they did it by designing workflows with AI agents, where each task makes the next one easier, faster, and more reliable.


    In this episode of AI & I, Dan Shipper interviewed the pair—Kieran Klaassen, general manager of Cora, our inbox management tool, and Cora engineer Nityesh Agarwal—about how they’re compounding their engineering with AI. They walk Dan through their workflow in Anthropic’s agentic coding tool, Claude Code, and the mental models they’ve developed for making AI agents truly useful. Kieran, our resident AI-agent aficionado, also ranked all the AI coding assistants he’s used.


    If you found this episode interesting, please like, subscribe, comment, and share!


    Want even more?

    Sign up for Every to unlock our ultimate guide to prompting ChatGPT here: https://every.ck.page/ultimate-guide-to-prompting-chatgpt. It’s usually only for paying subscribers, but you can get it here for free.


    To hear more from Dan Shipper:

    Subscribe to Every: https://every.to/subscribe

    Follow him on X: https://twitter.com/danshipper

    Head to ai.studio/build to create your first app.


    Pitch is the AI presentation platform that helps professionals collaborate on, create, and deliver winning slide decks — all while staying on brand: https://pitch.com/use-cases/ai-presentation-maker/?utm_medium=paid-influencer&utm_campaign=every


    Timestamps:

    Episode start: 00:00:00

    Introduction: 00:01:16

    Why Kieran believes agents are turning a corner: 00:03:18

    Why Claude Code stands out from other agents: 00:06:36

    What makes agentic coding different from using tools like Cursor: 00:11:58

    The Cora team’s workflow to turn tasks into momentum: 00:15:20

    How to build a prompt that turns ideas into plans: 00:23:07

    The new mental models for this age of software engineering: 00:34:00

    Why traditional tests and evals still matter: 00:39:13

    Kieran ranks all the AI coding agents he’s used: 00:42:00


    Links to resources mentioned in the episode:

    Try Cora, our AI email assistant: https://cora.computer/


    Kieran Klaassen: @kieranklaassen

    Nityesh Agarwal: @nityeshaga

    The book that helps Nityesh form mental models to work with AI agents: High Output Management


    Best of the Pod: Claude Code - How Two Engineers Ship Like a Team of 15 Nov 19, 2025
    Show notes

    If you’re using AI to just write code, you’re missing out.

    Two engineers at Every shipped six features, five bug fixes, and three infrastructure updates in one week—and they did it by designing workflows with AI agents, where each task makes the next one easier, faster, and more reliable.

    In this episode of AI & I, Dan Shipper interviewed the pair—Kieran Klaassen, general manager of Cora, our inbox management tool, and Cora engineer Nityesh Agarwal—about how they’re compounding their engineering with AI. They walk Dan through their workflow in Anthropic’s agentic coding tool, Claude Code, and the mental models they’ve developed for making AI agents truly useful. Kieran, our resident AI-agent aficionado, also ranked all the AI coding assistants he’s used.

    If you found this episode interesting, please like, subscribe, comment, and share!

    Want even more?
    Sign up for Every to unlock our ultimate guide to prompting ChatGPT here: https://every.ck.page/ultimate-guide-to-prompting-chatgpt. It’s usually only for paying subscribers, but you can get it here for free.

    To hear more from Dan Shipper:
    Subscribe to Every: https://every.to/subscribe
    Follow him on X: https://twitter.com/danshipper
    Head to ai.studio/build to create your first app.

    Pitch is the AI presentation platform that helps professionals collaborate on, create, and deliver winning slide decks — all while staying on brand: https://pitch.com/use-cases/ai-presentation-maker/?utm_medium=paid-influencer&utm_campaign=every

    Timestamps:
    Episode start: 00:00:00
    Introduction: 00:01:16
    Why Kieran believes agents are turning a corner: 00:03:18
    Why Claude Code stands out from other agents: 00:06:36
    What makes agentic coding different from using tools like Cursor: 00:11:58
    The Cora team’s workflow to turn tasks into momentum: 00:15:20
    How to build a prompt that turns ideas into plans: 00:23:07
    The new mental models for this age of software engineering: 00:34:00
    Why traditional tests and evals still matter: 00:39:13
    Kieran ranks all the AI coding agents he’s used: 00:42:00

    Links to resources mentioned in the episode:
    Try Cora, our AI email assistant: https://cora.computer/

    Kieran Klaassen: @kieranklaassen
    Nityesh Agarwal: @nityeshaga
    The book that helps Nityesh form mental models to work with AI agents: High Output Management


    Building AI Agents to Launch a Million Businesses Nov 12, 2025
    Show notes

    Henrik Werdelin wants to launch a million businesses that each make $1M—and he’s doing it with AI.

    After helping launch Barkbox and Ro Health through his incubator Prehype, Henrik is distilling everything he knows into Audos, a platform that helps you use AI agents to turn your idea into a profitable, lasting company.


    We had him on AI & I to talk about “portfolio entrepreneurship”—a new breed of entrepreneurship shepherded in by AI, where founders build families of products around the same customer, instead of one moonshot idea. It’s a philosophy we hold close to our hearts at Every.

    If you found this episode interesting, please like, subscribe, comment, and share!


    Want even more?

    Sign up for Every to unlock our ultimate guide to prompting ChatGPT here: https://every.ck.page/ultimate-guide-to-prompting-chatgpt. It’s usually only for paying subscribers, but you can get it here for free.

    To hear more from Dan Shipper:

    • Subscribe to Every: https://every.to/subscribe
    • Follow him on X: https://twitter.com/danshipper

    Head to ai.studio/build to create your first app.


    Ready to build a site that looks hand-coded—without hiring a developer? Launch your site for free at
    https://www.framer.com/, and use code DAN to get your first month of Pro on the house!


    Pitch is the AI presentation platform that helps professionals collaborate on, create, and deliver winning slide decks — all while staying on brand:
    https://pitch.com/use-cases/ai-presentation-maker/?utm_medium=paid-influencer&utm_campaign=every !

    Timestamps:

    00:01:33 - Introduction

    00:02:50 - Dan and Henrik on the new breed of entrepreneurship that AI makes possible

    00:11:08 - Why Henrik believes the future belongs to a million $1M companies

    00:16:14 - How to build “relationship capital” with your customers

    00:21:35 - Why “customer-founder fit” shapes lasting companies

    00:23:01 - Everything Henrik learned about himself from a decade of building companies

    00:31:44 - How Henrik finds focus and meaning in the daily chaos

    00:34:17 - How Henrik is parenting two kids in the age of AI

    00:50:33 - The way AI can fix what social media broke

    00:56:59 - What happens when AI agents become part of how we tell stories


    Links to resources mentioned in the episode:

    • Henrik Werdelin: https://hellohenrik.com/
    • Try Audos: https://www.audos.com/
    • Henrik’s new book: https://www.amazon.com/Me-My-Customer-AI-Entrepeneurship/dp/B0FCSQ1C7H

    Building AI Agents to Launch a Million Businesses Nov 12, 2025
    Show notes

    Henrik Werdelin wants to launch a million businesses that each make $1M—and he’s doing it with AI.

    After helping launch Barkbox and Ro Health through his incubator Prehype, Henrik is distilling everything he knows into Audos, a platform that helps you use AI agents to turn your idea into a profitable, lasting company.

    We had him on AI & I to talk about “portfolio entrepreneurship”—a new breed of entrepreneurship shepherded in by AI, where founders build families of products around the same customer, instead of one moonshot idea. It’s a philosophy we hold close to our hearts at Every.

    If you found this episode interesting, please like, subscribe, comment, and share!

    Want even more?

    Sign up for Every to unlock our ultimate guide to prompting ChatGPT here: https://every.ck.page/ultimate-guide-to-prompting-chatgpt. It’s usually only for paying subscribers, but you can get it here for free.

    To hear more from Dan Shipper:

    • Subscribe to Every: https://every.to/subscribe
    • Follow him on X: https://twitter.com/danshipper

    Head to ai.studio/build to create your first app.

    Ready to build a site that looks hand-coded—without hiring a developer? Launch your site for free at https://www.framer.com/*, and use code DAN to get your first month of Pro on the house!*

    Pitch is the AI presentation platform that helps professionals collaborate on, create, and deliver winning slide decks — all while staying on brand: https://pitch.com/use-cases/ai-presentation-maker/?utm_medium=paid-influencer&utm_campaign=every !

    Timestamps:

    00:01:33 - Introduction

    00:02:50 - Dan and Henrik on the new breed of entrepreneurship that AI makes possible

    00:11:08 - Why Henrik believes the future belongs to a million $1M companies

    00:16:14 - How to build “relationship capital” with your customers

    00:21:35 - Why “customer-founder fit” shapes lasting companies

    00:23:01 - Everything Henrik learned about himself from a decade of building companies

    00:31:44 - How Henrik finds focus and meaning in the daily chaos

    00:34:17 - How Henrik is parenting two kids in the age of AI

    00:50:33 - The way AI can fix what social media broke

    00:56:59 - What happens when AI agents become part of how we tell stories

    Links to resources mentioned in the episode:

    • Henrik Werdelin: Henrik Werdelin
    • Try Audos: Audos
    • Henrik’s new book: Me, My Customer, and AI

    What Jason Fried Learned from 26 Years of Building Great Products Nov 05, 2025
    Show notes

    37signals makes tens of millions in profit every year but ⁠Jason Fried⁠ isn’t all that interested in running a business.

    Instead, he cares most about making great products—like ⁠Basecamp⁠, ⁠HEY⁠, and ⁠Ruby on Rails⁠—products that are centered around a single, coherent idea. These products are complete wholes, where each piece matters—like a Frank Lloyd Wright house or a vintage car.

    But how do you create products like that?

    In this conversation, we talk to Jason about what two decades of building 37signals has been like—and how to build products that have soul.

    If you found this episode interesting, please like, subscribe, comment, and share!


    Want even more?

    Sign up for Every to unlock our ultimate guide to prompting ChatGPT here: ⁠https://every.ck.page/ultimate-guide-to-prompting-chatgpt⁠. It’s usually only for paying subscribers, but you can get it here for free.

    To hear more from Dan Shipper:

    • Subscribe to Every: ⁠https://every.to/subscribe⁠
    • Follow him on X: ⁠https://twitter.com/danshipper⁠

    Listen to Working Smarter wherever you get your podcasts, or visit ⁠workingsmarter.ai⁠.

    Timestamps:

    00:00:00 - Start

    00:00:32 - Introduction

    00:02:06 - What architecture, watches, and cars teach us about software

    00:10:54 - How Jason thinks AI plays into product-building

    00:20:58 - How developers at 37signals use AI

    00:25:47 - Jason’s biggest realization after 26 years of running 37signals

    00:29:58 - Where Jason thinks luck shaped his career

    00:32:41 - What Jason would do if he were graduated into the AI boom

    00:37:22 - Dan asks for advice on running a non-traditional company like Every

    00:46:39 - Why staying true to yourself is the only way to build something lasting

    00:49:38 - Wholeness as the north star for building products—and companies


    Links to resources mentioned in the episode:

    • Jason Fried: ⁠Jason Fried (@jasonfried)⁠, ⁠Jason Fried⁠
    • More about 37Signals: ⁠37signals⁠
    • The book about architecture by Christopher Alexander: ⁠The Timeless Way of Building⁠

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