Stay ConnectedThe Every Podcast is Every’s flagship show. Co-hosts Dan Shipper and Natalia Quintero talk with founders, researchers, writers, and operators about what they’re building and how they use AI in their own work. The show also takes you behind the scenes at Every. We share how our team is using and exploring AI, including what we’re trying, what’s working, and what we’re learning along the way.
Formerly known as AI & I.
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You don’t need to handle your inbox anymore. It’s Cora’s job now.
Cora is the AI chief of staff we built for your email at Every. It’s been in private beta for the last 6 months and currently manages email for 2,500 beta users—and today we’re making it available for anyone to use. Start your free 7-day trial by going to: https://cora.computer/
Cora is the $150K executive assistant that costs $15/month. Or $20/month if you want an Every subscription, too. This is what that actually means:
Cora understands what’s important to you, screens your inbox, and only lets the most relevant emails through.
The rest of your emails are summarized in a beautifully designed brief that’s sent to you twice a day.
If it has enough context, Cora drafts replies for you in your voice.
You can talk to Cora like you would your chief of staff—you can give it special instructions on how you want certain emails handled, ask it to summarize things, and even give you an opinion on complex decisions.
In this episode of AI & I, I sat down with the team behind Cora—Brandon Gell, head of the product studio; Kieran Klaassen, Cora’s general manager; and Nityesh Agarwal, engineer at Cora—for a closer look at how it all came together. We talk about:
The story of the first time Brandon, Kieran, and I used Cora, while sipping wine at the Every retreat in Nice.
The evolution of Cora’s categorization system, from a 4-hour vibe-coded prototype to a multi-faceted product with thousands of happy users.
The features on Cora’s roadmap we’re most excited about: a unified brief across different email accounts, an iOS app, and an even more powerful assistant.
This is a must-watch if you’re curious about what it feels like to give Cora your inbox, and take back your life. Go to https://cora.computer/ to start your 7-day free trial now.
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Timestamps:
Introduction: 00:01:40
Three ways Cora transforms your inbox (and your day): 00:04:21
A live walkthrough of Cora’s features: 00:05:09
The inside story of the first time Kieran, Brandon, and Dan used Cora: 00:12:13
Train Cora like you would a trusted chief of staff: 00:16:30
The AI tools that blew our minds while building Cora: 00:27:25
How we build workflows that compound with AI at Every: 00:30:34
The dream features that we’d like to put on Cora’s roadmap: 00:42:36
Links to resources mentioned in the episode:
Try Cora now with a 7-day free trial: https://cora.computer/
The episode about how Kieran and Nityesh use Claude Code to build Cora: "How Two Engineers Ship Like a Team of 15 With AI Agents"
Joe Hudson is a coach who works with the executives building AGI at OpenAI.
From inside OpenAI, he witnesses the full spectrum of human emotion that comes with bringing something new into the world—the exhilaration, the terror, the weight of it all. He feels these emotions, too: He believes AI will eventually replace what he does as a coach.
But instead of fixating on that fear, Hudson is asking a deeper question: Who is he becoming in the meantime? He believes that moments like this—when we can feel the ground quiver—can be powerful catalysts for transformation, but only if we’re willing to face the uncertainty they bring.
In this episode of AI & I, Dan Shipper sits down with Hudson to talk about how he’s answering that question. They get into what happens when the thing you’ve built your life around might disappear, how to find who you are beneath your professional identity, and why Hudson believes intention is the key to growing with AI.
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Timestamps:
Introduction: 00:01:49
What it feels like inside the room where AGI is being built: 00:03:14
The most important question to ask yourself as AGI approaches: 00:08:15
The importance of sitting with uncertainty: 00:17:49
How Joe is preparing his daughters for a post-AGI world: 00:21:11
How we think, feel, and react; the three layers of human awareness: 00:27:25
Staying grounded while coaching the people shaping our future: 00:35:34
Why Joe doesn’t take things personally—even when the stakes are high: 00:42:44
Links to resources mentioned in the episode:
Joe Hudson: @FU_joehudson;
Learn more about the coaching and workshops that Joe runs: Art of Accomplishment
Joe Hudson is a coach who works with the executives building AGI at OpenAI.
From inside OpenAI, he witnesses the full spectrum of human emotion that comes with bringing something new into the world—the exhilaration, the terror, the weight of it all. He feels these emotions, too: He believes AI will eventually replace what he does as a coach.
But instead of fixating on that fear, Hudson is asking a deeper question: Who is he becoming in the meantime? He believes that moments like this—when we can feel the ground quiver—can be powerful catalysts for transformation, but only if we’re willing to face the uncertainty they bring.
In this episode of AI & I, Dan Shipper sits down with Hudson to talk about how he’s answering that question. They get into what happens when the thing you’ve built your life around might disappear, how to find who you are beneath your professional identity, and why Hudson believes intention is the key to growing with AI.
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If you’re using AI to just write code, you’re missing out.
Two engineers at Every shipped six features, five bug fixes, and three infrastructure updates in one week—and they did it by designing workflows with AI agents, where each task makes the next one easier, faster, and more reliable.
In this episode of AI & I, Dan Shipper interviewed the pair—Kieran Klaassen, general manager of Cora, our inbox management tool, and Cora engineer Nityesh Agarwal—about how they’re compounding their engineering with AI. They walk Dan through their workflow in Anthropic’s agentic coding tool, Claude Code, and the mental models they’ve developed for making AI agents truly useful. Kieran, our resident AI-agent aficionado, also ranked all the AI coding assistants he’s used.
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Timestamps:
Introduction: 00:01:16
Why Kieran believes agents are turning a corner: 00:03:18
Why Claude Code stands out from other agents: 00:06:36
What makes agentic coding different from using tools like Cursor: 00:11:58
The Cora team’s workflow to turn tasks into momentum: 00:15:20
How to build a prompt that turns ideas into plans: 00:23:07
The new mental models for this age of software engineering: 00:34:00
Why traditional tests and evals still matter: 00:39:13
Kieran ranks all the AI coding agents he’s used: 00:42:00
Links to resources mentioned in the episode:
Try Cora, our AI email assistant: https://cora.computer/
Kieran Klaassen: @kieranklaassen
Nityesh Agarwal: @nityeshaga
The book that helps Nityesh form mental models to work with AI agents: High Output Management
A guide to Anthropic’s prompt improver: https://www.anthropic.com/news/prompt-improver
If you’re using AI to just write code, you’re missing out.
Two engineers at Every shipped six features, five bug fixes, and three infrastructure updates in one week—and they did it by designing workflows with AI agents, where each task makes the next one easier, faster, and more reliable.
In this episode of AI & I, Dan Shipper interviewed the pair—Kieran Klaassen, general manager of Cora, our inbox management tool, and Cora engineer Nityesh Agarwal—about how they’re compounding their engineering with AI. They walk Dan through their workflow in Anthropic’s agentic coding tool, Claude Code, and the mental models they’ve developed for making AI agents truly useful. Kieran, our resident AI-agent aficionado, also ranked all the AI coding assistants he’s used.
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Links to resources mentioned in the episode:
OCD treatment changed my life—but it took me a decade of chasing down wrong answers to be diagnosed.
In the rush to create scalable treatments, disorders like depression and OCD are squeezed into diagnostic checklists—from which the complexity of the human mind invariably leaks out. The field of psychiatry is broken, and I spoke to someone on the inside about how AI can help fix it .
Awais Aftab has been questioning psychiatry’s rigid categories from inside the field. He’s a clinical assistant professor at Case Western Reserve University, editor of Conversations in Critical Psychiatry—an Oxford University Press volume that tackles philosophical and critical perspectives in psychiatry—and author of the Substack newsletter Psychiatry at the Margins. We get into how AI is transforming psychiatry by embracing the complexity of human minds instead of flattening it.
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Timestamps:
Introduction: 00:01:20
The case Awais makes for pluralistic thinking in psychiatry: 00:03:38
A pragmatic approach to mental healthcare: 00:15:30
Awais’s take on why my OCD diagnosis took 10 years: 00:19:04
Why psychiatry is stuck where machine learning was decades ago: 00:24:19
Why psychiatry’s focus should shift from explanations to predictions: 00:31:05
How Awais thinks AI is already changing the psychiatric profession: 00:39:19
Links to resources mentioned in the episode:
Awais Aftab: @awaisaftab, awais aftab
Awais’s Substack: Psychiatry at the Margins
The book Awais edited: Conversations in Critical Psychiatry
OCD treatment changed my life—but it took me a decade of chasing down wrong answers to be diagnosed.
In the rush to create scalable treatments, disorders like depression and OCD are squeezed into diagnostic checklists—from which the complexity of the human mind invariably leaks out. The field of psychiatry is broken, and I spoke to someone on the inside about how AI can help fix it .
Awais Aftab has been questioning psychiatry’s rigid categories from inside the field. He’s a clinical assistant professor at Case Western Reserve University, editor of Conversations in Critical Psychiatry—an Oxford University Press volume that tackles philosophical and critical perspectives in psychiatry—and author of the Substack newsletter Psychiatry at the Margins. We get into how AI is transforming psychiatry by embracing the complexity of human minds instead of flattening it.
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GitHub Copilot has 15 million users—more than Cursor and Windsurf combined. So why does it feel like they're losing the AI coding race?
Last week at Microsoft Build, I interviewed the CEO of GitHub Thomas Dohmke to find out.
I wanted to know: Is their huge existing user base a blessing or a curse? And will their latest launch—an autonomous coding agent built into GitHub—let them retake the lead? Watch this episode of AI & I to find out
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Timestamps:
00:00:38 - Introduction
00:07:40 - Copilot’s place in the AI coding agent race
00:10:42 - Inside the product decisions behind Copilot’s new agent
00:16:18 - How Dohmke thinks about shaping Copilot’s personality
00:20:29 - How GitHub supports both AI-native developers and legacy enterprise users
00:26:57 - Dohmke’s predictions for the future of software development
GitHub Copilot has 15 million users—more than Cursor and Windsurf combined. So why does it feel like they're losing the AI coding race?
Last week at Microsoft Build, I interviewed the CEO of GitHub Thomas Dohmke to find out.
I wanted to know: Is their huge existing user base a blessing or a curse? And will their latest launch—an autonomous coding agent built into GitHub—let them retake the lead? Watch this episode of AI & I to find out
If you found this episode interesting, please like, subscribe, comment, and share!
Want even more?
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Sponsor:
Attio: Go to https://attio.com/every and get 15% off your first year on your AI-powered CRM.
To hear more from Dan Shipper:
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Timestamps:
Introduction (00:00:38)
Copilot’s place in the AI coding agent race (00:07:40)
Inside the product decisions behind Copilot’s new agent (00:10:42)
How Dohmke thinks about shaping Copilot’s personality (00:16:18)
How GitHub supports both AI-native developers and legacy enterprise users (00:20:29)
Dohmke’s predictions for the future of software development (00:26:57)
I interviewed Microsoft CTO Kevin Scott about the future of agents and software engineering for another special edition of AI & I.
With 41 years of programming behind him, Kevin has lived through nearly every big shift in modern software development. Here’s his clear-eyed take on what’s changing with AI, and how we can navigate what’s next:
The real breakthrough for the agentic web is better plumbing. Kevin thinks agents won’t be useful until they can take action on your behalf by using tools and fetching data. To do this, agents need access across your systems—and Microsoft’s answer is adopting Model Context Protocol, or “MCP,” that allows an agent to access tools and fresh data beyond its knowledge base, as their standard protocol for agents to move through contexts and get things done.
How the agentic web echoes the early internet. Just as protocols like HTTP and HTML gave the web a shared language, Kevin believes the agentic web needs its own infrastructure—the first glimpses of this include MCP (the HTTP of agents) and NLWeb, Microsoft’s push to make websites legible to agents (similar to what HTML did for browsers).
Open ecosystems can coexist with strong security systems. Kevin argues that the “tradeoff” between ecosystems that allow “permissionless” innovation and robust security is a false dichotomy. With AI agents that understand your personal risk preferences—and know your communication habits across email, text, and other channels—they could detect when something suspicious is happening and act on your behalf.
The craftsman’s dilemma in the age of agents. Kevin is a lifelong maker—of software, ceramics, even handmade bags—and he cares deeply about how things are made. Because this can feel at odds with coding with AI agents, Kevin’s approach is to notice where the process matters most to him, and where it's okay to optimize for outcomes. After four decades of seeing breakthrough technologies, his advice is simple: be curious, try stuff, and use it if it works for you.
The future of software engineering agents is plural. Kevin believes the future of software engineering agents will be diverse because developers who enjoy the freedom of playing with different tools is one of the most consistent patterns he’s seen in his decades in tech. What will drive this diversity, he says, is builders who deeply understand specific problems and tailor agents to solve them exceptionally well.
How agentic workflows will evolve. Kevin sees a shift from short back-and-forth interactions with agents to longer, async feedback loops. As the agentic web matures and model reasoning improves, people will start handing off bigger, more ambitious tasks and letting agents run with them.
Timestamps:
Introduction: 00:01:44
The race to close the “capability overhang”: 00:02:49
How agents will evolve into practical, useful tools: 00:04:31
The role Kevin sees Microsoft playing in the agent ecosystem: 00:06:48
How robust security measures can coexist with open ecosystems: 00:12:05
Kevin's philosophy on being a craftsman in the age of agents: 00:15:39
How the landscape of software development agents will evolve: 00:20:52
The future of agentic workflows: 00:25:33
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