A Tale of Two Hygienists Podcast

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Fast Facts: Perio Edition "AAP 2017 Classification System - Grade B" Nov 15, 2021

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On this week's episode of Fast Facts - Perio Edition, Katrina Sanders, RDH discusses the current AAP current grading parameters and how we identify Grade B for a patient.

Quotes:

"We should start by placing all patients into grade B, and if there are modifiers that move the patient into grade A because of direct evidence, indirect evidence, risk factors, or systemic burden for example, then we move the patient down into a grade A or we move the patient up into a grade C in some instances."

"I want to be very clear with these patients, you are going to take whichever identifier or modifier would move the patient into the higher grade, and that is going to be the weight that you will use to identify the patient's grade."

Resources:

DentistRX: https://www.dentistrx.com

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Katrina Sanders Website: https://www.katrinasanders.com

Katrina Sanders Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedentalwinegenist/

Sources:

Papapanou, P. N., Sanz, M., Buduneli, N., Dietrich, T., Feres, M., Fine, D. H., ... & Tonetti, M. S. (2018). Periodontitis: Consensus report of workgroup 2 of the 2017 World Workshop on the Classification of Periodontal and Peri‐Implant Diseases and Conditions. Journal of periodontology, 89, S173-S182.

TIPisode Effective Following with Jessica Atkinson, RDH, MEd Nov 12, 2021

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This week on A Tale of Two Hygienists TIPisode we are speaking to all the clinical educators out there! We are joined by Jessica Atkinson, RDH, MEd from Hygiene Edge to talk about being an effective follower.

Episode Highlights

Rise Conference for Clinical Coordinators
Follower Types
Being an Effective Follower

Quotes

"We really want our students to be successful in becoming professionals."

"Effective followers generally hold a higher standard than the workplace requires."

"See what our leaders might not be seeing and have the courage to share that."

Links

In praise of followership Article: https://hbr.org/1988/11/in-praise-of-followers

Hygiene Edge: https://www.hygieneedge.com

More TIPisodes: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com/tipisodes/

305 Gut Deep Into Gastrointestinal and Oral Health with Jennifer Fijor, ARNP Nov 10, 2021

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On this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists Michelle and Andrew bring on Jennifer Fijor, ARNP to talk about the medical dental connection specifically as it relates to gut heath. Jennifer dives into the details about Crohn's Disease, Ulcerative Colitis, Inflammatory Bowel Disease and more.

Special thank you to Paradise Dental Technologies for sponsoring the CE portion of this podcast so that we can provide you with FREE CE! Take the CE quiz for this episode here. Be sure to view your state guidelines to ensure this CE is applicable in your State. You can view all episodes with Free CE here.

Interview Starts: 06:41.426

Episode Highlights

Symptoms
Diet
Periodontitis/IBD Overlap
Oral Lesions
Treatment Journey
Patient Conversations

Quotes

"You can be the first line defense in detecting some of this stuff."

"They can go to the bathroom anywhere from a few times a day, to 20 times a day with urgent diarrhea."

"Diet plays a role but it is not the only thing that is involved."

"Gut bacteria starts in the mouth."

"If you are someone with poor oral health you might be someone with poor gut health as well."

"It is so hard to live a normal life with some of these auto-immune disorders."

Links

Jennifer on Instagram/TikTok: Gutgalz

Inflammatory bowel disease and oral health | BDJ Team

Could the Cure for IBD Be Inside Your Mouth?

Inflammatory bowel disease and oral health: systematic review and a meta-analysis

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Fast Facts: Perio Edition "AAP 2017 Classification System - Grade A" Nov 08, 2021

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On this week's episode of Fast Facts - Perio Edition, Katrina Sanders, RDH discusses the current AAP current grading parameters and how we identify Grade A for a patient.

Quotes:

"Some clinicians do get in the habit of grading all patients. That is not necessarily a requirement from the AAP, but some of our colleagues have started to integrate grading our patients that have gingivitis based on other overt risk factors that may elevate the propensity that the patient may experience gingivitis moving into periodontitis in a faster progression."

"When patients present with heavy biofilm, but low destruction. It indicates that from a risk factor standpoint, we may not necessarily experience a very quick or very overt reaction of the body to the presence of biofilm."

Resources:

DentistRX: https://www.dentistrx.com

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Katrina Sanders Website: https://www.katrinasanders.com

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TIPisode Plaque Removal is Sexy with Dr. Brian Novy Nov 05, 2021

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This TIPisode is brought to you by LivFresh! Michelle is joined by Dr. Brian Novy to talk about Livfresh and where it has come since it was called Livionex and why both Dr. Novy and Michelle are big fans! We know you are going to want to try Livfresh after hearing this TIPisode. Use code: TIP10 for 10% off & Free Shipping on your first order through www.getlivfresh.com.

Episode Highlights:

Dr. Novy Sceptic Turned Advocate
Daily Use
Plaque Removal
3 Versions of Livfresh

Quotes:

"From a caries standpoint we don't want to remove calcium from a high risk patient."

"Those of us that were skeptics, they satisfied our skepticism, which is different from the tact that a lot of companies would take."

"They came back with the safety studies and I said ' oh wow you are really on to something'."

"This is a game changer for us."

"Patients come back seeing a difference."

Livfresh blew that toothpaste out of the water when it came to plaque removal and that was in the Journal of Periodontology."

"Plaque removal is sexy, what is more sexy than clean teeth?"

"A recent double-blind study showed that patients who brushed with LivFresh saw 2.5 times less gum inflammation and 1.9 times less gum bleeding as compared to the control."

" 80% of diseased pockets experienced improvement with LivFresh."

Links:

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304 Student Focused Presents Breaking The Stigma Around Substance Use Disorder Nov 03, 2021

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On this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists we have our student focused roundtable we are joined by Stephanie Botts, BSDH, RDH, CEAS and Dr. Brett Kessler, DDS about Substance Use Disorder and working with our patients who have struggled with this disorder, or are currently struggling.

Interview Starts: 08:25.181

Episode Highlights

Our Guests Backgrounds
Stigmatizing Language
Proactive Conversations
Recognizing the Signs
Do's and Don't Interacting with Patients

Quotes

"Today is actually my 23rd anniversary of getting sober."

"Dentistry is often the gateway, the first time use of opiates."

"Fear is a big trigger of relapse."

"Pain pales in comparison to the pain of opening up an addiction again."

"From October 2020 - October 2021 the very most amount of people died from opiate overdoses."

"Alcohol is one of the leading causes of oral cancer."

"I've never regretted asking a patient if something is wrong, and if I can help them."

"We've had interventions and helped patients get into treatment."

"The best way to quit is keep trying to quit."

"If you can get patients to floss on a regular basis you can have this conversation about substance abuse."

"I share because recovery is the best thing that has ever happened to me."

"You can't fix your broken brain with your own broken brain."

"You can't do it alone, that is when people die, and that isn't right."

Links

Dr. Kessler Email: bikodds@gmail.com

Dr. Kessler Phone Number: 720-989-7960

Stephanie's Email: stephanie@posturepros.net

Stephanie's Phone Number: 907-229-4989

Stephanie's Facebook: Stephanie.Botts.rdh

Stephanie's Instagram: @steph.posturepros

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Fast Facts: Perio Edition "AAP 2017 Classification System - Current Grading Parameters" Nov 01, 2021

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On this week's episode of Fast Facts - Perio Edition, Katrina Sanders, RDH discusses some of the parameters that we use currently, when we're looking at grading guidelines.

Quotes:

"We all know that if new patient shows up in the practice without their previous charting or radiographs, or if we simply don't have quality images or Pario charting, we can't necessarily lean on that."

"However, we're also looking at other emerging risk factors that may be added things like obesity, genetic factors, physical activity, or nutrition."

Resources:

DentistRX: https://www.dentistrx.com

More Fast Facts: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com/fast-facts/

Katrina Sanders Website: https://www.katrinasanders.com

Katrina Sanders Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedentalwinegenist/

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TIPisode Are You Listening Dave Marsh? Oct 29, 2021

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This week on A Tale of Two Hygienists TIPisode we are joined by Michelle and Andrew! Your hosts are talking about comments made by Lobbyist Dave Marsh for the Illinois State Dental Society.

The comment that got Michelle, Andrew and should get you fired up:

"I just don't feel anybody with a two-year associate degree is medically qualified to correct your health, they're trained to clean teeth. They take a sharp little instrument and scrape your teeth. That's what they do. That's all they do." - Dave Marsh lobbyist for the Illinois dental society

If you have feelings about this statement made by Mr. Marsh and you would like to email him, his email is: Dmarsh@isds.org

Episode Highlights

The Comment
The Inaccuracy
Be a Smart Dentist
Privilege of Not Being Involved in Politics
Call your Senator and State Legislators

Quotes

"We are not trying to be dentists, we are trying to be preventive care specialists."

"What a slap in the face to your constituents!"

"It was abhorrent and wrong, factually wrong."

"Remind me, are some associate degrees nursing degrees?"

"If you are a smart dentist you will create as many feeder outlets into your practice as you can."

"They are missing the role of what we do."

"By not being involved in politics it is our community and profession that is going to take the hit."

Links

Article: In a battle reflecting turf wars around the country, Illinois dentists helped defeat bills that would have allowed hygienists to practice in nursing homes and prisons

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303 How To Get Into Dental Hygiene Education With Hygiene Edge Oct 27, 2021

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On this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists we have a Hygiene Edge takeover! Join Jessica, Melia and Shelley and the mighty M's: Mandy Gibbs, Melissa Calhoun and Megen Elliott to talk about becoming an educator!

Interview Starts: 02:42.575

Episode Highlights

Our guests backgrounds as educators
Is going back to school right for you?
Different educator experiences
Different educator programs
ADHA Components
Education is not a break from clinical practice

Quotes

"I stuck around and I asked a lot, letting them know I was interested in dental hygiene education."

"I feel like getting my Masters was easier than getting my hygiene degree."

"There is only one thing harder than being a dental hygiene student, and that is being a dental hygiene educator."

"I think it is important to evaluate what you are interested in, and what you want to be learning about."

"We are in need of dental hygiene educators."

"Squeaky wheel gets the grease."

"It's not what you know, it is who you know."

"Share your ambitions with others."

"Once you catch that vision it is hard to shake."

"Even if education is not where you want to go, continue your education."

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Fast Facts: Perio Edition "AAP 2017 Classification System - Introduction to Grading" Oct 25, 2021

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On this week's episode of Fast Facts - Perio Edition, Katrina Sanders, RDH discusses the AAP grades of periodontitis.

Quotes:

" Grading allows us the opportunity to take a look at what we understand with regards to various types of recognized risk factors and how those risk factors play a role in the complexity of this disease process.

"We can also predictably measure a response to standard therapy, and if a patient is considered an advanced grade of the disease process, we may predict that these patients that are in advanced grade may not respond as favorably to the disease treatment."

Resources:

DentistRX: https://www.dentistrx.com

More Fast Facts: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com/fast-facts/

Katrina Sanders Website: https://www.katrinasanders.com

Katrina Sanders Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedentalwinegenist/

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