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    A Productive Conversation

    Hosted by productivity strategist Mike Vardy, A Productive Conversation offers insightful discussions on how to craft a life that aligns with your intentions. Each episode dives into the art of time devotion, productiveness, and refining your approach to daily living. Mike invites guests who are thinkers, doers, and creators to share their strategies for working smarter and living more intentionally. From practical tips to deep dives on mindset shifts, this podcast will help you reframe your relationship with time and find balance in a busy world.

    Subscribe and join the conversation—because a productive life is more than just getting things done.

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    Carl Pullein Talks About Time Management and Productivity Strategies Aug 28, 2024
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    In this episode, I'm thrilled to welcome Carl Pullein back to discuss various time management and prioritization strategies. We dive into the Ivy Lee method, GTD (Getting Things Done), and the 5 AM Club, focusing on how busy professionals can effectively manage their time and prioritize tasks. Carl and I emphasize the importance of balancing work, personal projects, and administrative tasks to achieve a sustainable and productive lifestyle.

    Throughout our conversation, we explore the habit of procrastination and offer practical strategies for reframing it as a valuable learning experience. Carl shares his unique "Two Plus Eight" task prioritization system and explains how he maintains an 80% success rate with his productivity system. We also discuss the significance of intentional time management and the importance of recognizing limits and prioritizing tasks strategically.

    Key Discussion Points

    • Ivy Lee Method and Task Prioritization: Exploring the Ivy Lee method for prioritizing tasks and the importance of distinguishing between "must do" and "should do" tasks.
    • Two Plus Eight System: Carl's approach to completing two must-do tasks daily and flagging others for later, aiming for 100% consistency.
    • Time Management for Busy Professionals: Balancing work, personal projects, and administrative tasks, and managing relationships with time rather than the time itself.
    • Procrastination as a Learning Tool: Practical strategies for reframing procrastination as a valuable learning experience and identifying triggers through journaling.
    • Calendar-Led Approach: Using a calendar to organize tasks, setting limits on task completion, and managing time effectively.
    • Continuous Improvement: Refining processes to save time and improve efficiency, with insights from racing car mechanics and the importance of cathartic journaling.
    • Flexible Productivity Systems: The need for flexibility in productivity systems and the dangers of over-committing and rigid time blocking.


    Carl's insights provide a wealth of knowledge for anyone looking to enhance their productivity and time management skills. His practical advice and innovative strategies offer listeners the tools to make the most of their time and achieve their goals with clarity and purpose.

    Links Worth Exploring

    • Connect with Carl: Website | LinkedIn | Instagram | X/Twitter
    • Check out Carl's YouTube Channel: Watch now
    • Get Carl's Book: Your Time, Your Way: Time Well Managed, Life Well Lived
    • Carl's Previous Apperance: Episode 195: # All Things Productive with Carl Pullein
    • Related Conversation: Episode 512: Hal Elrod Talks About Revamping "The Miracle Morning" and Embracing Challenges
    • Related Blog Post: Improving Productivity Through Process Refinement


    Thanks to all of the sponsors of this episode. You can find all of the sponsors you heard me mention on this episode on our Podcast Sponsors page.

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    Rebecca Zung Talks About Negotiating with Narcissists Aug 21, 2024
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    In this episode, I'm joined by Rebecca Zung, a negotiation expert specializing in dealing with high-conflict personalities, particularly narcissists. We explore strategies for handling legal disputes involving narcissistic personalities, focusing on understanding their psyche and using advanced negotiation skills to navigate these challenging situations. Rebecca shares insights on building leverage through documentation and setting boundaries while addressing vulnerabilities, all of which are crucial in achieving a successful outcome when dealing with narcissists.

    Throughout our conversation, Rebecca emphasizes the importance of understanding the narcissist's brain chemistry and how childhood trauma often leads to underdeveloped emotional centers in their brains. She introduces her "Slay Method" for dealing with difficult people, which focuses on creating a clear vision, holding leverage, and setting specific negotiation goals. This episode is packed with practical advice and strategies for anyone facing the daunting task of negotiating with narcissists.

    Key Discussion Points

    • Narcissism and Relationships: Understanding how narcissism affects relationships and the spectrum of narcissistic personality disorder.
    • Brain Chemistry and Trauma: Insights into how childhood trauma impacts narcissists' emotional development and behavior.
    • Creating Leverage: Techniques for building leverage in negotiations with narcissists by understanding their vulnerabilities and predictable behaviors.
    • The Slay Method: Rebecca's approach to dealing with difficult personalities, focusing on strategy and long-term vision.
    • Negotiation Goals: The importance of setting specific goals in negotiations, whether in dissolving partnerships or valuing assets.
    • Covert vs. Grandiose Narcissists: Identifying different types of narcissists and their manipulation tactics.
    • Asserting Power: How to assert power authentically to make narcissists back down.


    Rebecca's expertise provides a comprehensive guide to navigating negotiations with narcissists, offering listeners actionable strategies to handle these challenging situations effectively. Her insights on the importance of self-reflection, boundary-setting, and strategic planning are invaluable for anyone dealing with difficult personalities in legal disputes (or otherwise).

    Links Worth Exploring

    • Connect with Rebecca: Website | YouTube | Instagram | X/Twitter
    • Get Rebecca's Free Negotiation Prep Playbook: Click here
    • Get Rebecca's Book: SLAY the Bully: How to Negotiate with a Narcissist and Win
    • Related Conversation: Episode 358: Calm Your Chaos with Nicola Taggart
    • Related Blog Post: Why You Need to Take Productivity Personally


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    PM Talks S1E8: Urgency Aug 14, 2024
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    In this latest episode of our monthly series, PM Talks, I sit down once again with Patrick Rhone to delve into the intriguing relationship between urgency and importance in our daily lives. This episode, titled "Urgency RAW," offers a candid exploration of how we often find ourselves caught up in urgent tasks while overlooking what truly matters. Together with Patrick, we share personal stories, valuable insights, and practical strategies to help you navigate the delicate balance between urgency and importance in both personal and professional settings.

    Throughout our discussion, we tackle the idea that urgent tasks often overshadow important ones, yet recognizing the difference between the two can lead to more effective prioritization and decision-making. Patrick and I dive into how urgent situations can suddenly arise and how proactive measures can help mitigate their impact. We also share tips on maintaining a sense of urgency in writing, particularly when conveying critical messages or deadlines.

    Key Discussion Points

    • Urgency vs. Importance: Understanding the distinction between urgent and important tasks and why prioritizing important tasks can lead to long-term success.
    • Personal Stories: I share a recent experience with a kitchen leak that required immediate attention, and Patrick shares a story about his wife saving their blind dog from a pool. Both highlight the unpredictable nature of urgent situations.
    • Proactive vs. Reactive: Discussing the benefits of being proactive rather than reactive in handling urgent tasks, especially in maintenance and health-related scenarios.
    • The Role of Urgency in Public Speaking: I discuss how procrastination can create artificial urgency and the limits of improvisation when addressing important topics.
    • Medical Emergencies and Costs: Patrick and I highlight the importance of addressing medical issues promptly to prevent them from becoming urgent and costly.
    • Prioritization in Writing: Exploring the urgency of writing a book with a message that resonates, while balancing deadlines and creative processes.
    • The Trolley Problem: We use this philosophical dilemma to emphasize decision-making under urgency and the importance of considering long-term consequences.


    As we wrap up this episode, Patrick and I encourage you to reflect on how you handle urgency in your own life. Are you focusing on what truly matters, or are urgent tasks dictating your priorities? By taking a moment to assess and understand the root causes of urgency, you can make more informed decisions and create a balance between urgent and important tasks. Thank you for joining us in this conversation, and we hope you find the insights shared here valuable in your journey toward better time management and productivity.

    Links Worth Exploring

    • Patrick’s Website
    • Why Your Dishwasher Is Leaking From the Bottom (and How to Fix It)
    • Next Stop: ‘Trolley Problem’
    • Episode 514: Choices | PM Talks S1:E2
    • The Balance Between Urgency and Purpose


    Thanks to all of the sponsors of this episode. You can find all of the sponsors you heard me mention on this episode on our Podcast Sponsors page.

    Want to support the podcast? Beyond checking out our sponsors, you can subscribe to the show wherever you listen to podcasts. You can subscribe on Spotify and also on Apple Podcasts. Not using either of those to get your podcasts? Just click on this link and then paste the podcast feed into your podcast app of choice.

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    Paul Epstein Talks About Decision-Making and Momentum Aug 07, 2024
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    In this episode, I sit down with Paul Epstein to explore the intricacies of decision-making and building momentum. Paul shares his unique "head, heart, hands" framework for making better decisions and emphasizes the importance of balancing both emotional and logical aspects. We also dive into personal insights and professional experiences that have shaped Paul's approach to decision-making.

    Our conversation covers the significance of understanding the Green, Yellow, and Red framework in professional settings and how disrupting self-limiting beliefs can lead to success. Paul also introduces the concept of "Monday Momentum" to help listeners build confidence and achieve their goals through consistent, small actions.

    Key Discussion Points

    • Head, Heart, Hands Framework: Paul explains how balancing emotional and logical aspects leads to effective decision-making.
    • Green, Yellow, Red Framework: Understanding different decision zones and how to navigate them.
    • Balancing Nuance: The importance of balancing head and heart, especially in nuanced situations.
    • Managing Workplace Relationships: Tips on managing high-performing but difficult team members using the Green, Yellow, Red framework.
    • Micro Actions for Momentum: How small, intentional actions can build momentum and lead to significant progress.
    • NBA Draft Example: Using the "head, heart, hands" framework to analyze LeBron James' decision to draft his son.
    • Personal Growth: Paul's journey in discovering core values and making impactful decisions beyond the sports industry.


    As we wrap up, Paul's insights offer a fresh perspective on decision-making and momentum. His practical advice and personal experiences provide valuable takeaways for anyone looking to improve their decision-making skills and build unstoppable progress.

    Links Worth Exploring

    • Connect with Paul: Website | LinkedIn | Instagram | X/Twitter
    • Paul's "Monday Momentum" program: Sign up here
    • Jerry Maguire’s Mission Statement: Read it in full here
    • Related Conversation: Episode 385: Adii Pienaar talks about Measuring Life Profitability
    • Related Blog Post: Spot Picking


    Thanks to all of the sponsors of this episode. You can find all of the sponsors you heard me mention on this episode on our Podcast Sponsors page.

    Want to support the podcast? Beyond checking out our sponsors, you can subscribe to the show wherever you listen to podcasts. You can subscribe on Spotify and also on Apple Podcasts. Not using either of those to get your podcasts? Just click on this link and then paste the podcast feed into your podcast app of choice.

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    Paul Austin Talks About Microdosing Psychedelics for Productivity and Creativity Jul 31, 2024
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    In this episode, I sit down with Paul Austin to dive into the intriguing world of microdosing psychedelics. We explore the potential benefits and risks, the historical and modern connections between psychedelics and technological innovation, and the broader implications for productivity and creativity in the workplace.

    Microdosing has become a hot topic, and Paul provides insights into how substances like psilocybin mushrooms and LSD can enhance performance, heal trauma, and boost creativity. We also discuss the need for greater acceptance and understanding of microdosing, emphasizing safe and responsible use. This conversation sheds light on how microdosing might transform our approach to productivity and creativity.

    Key Discussion Points

    • Microdosing for Productivity: Paul and I discuss how microdosing psychedelics can enhance focus and flow, leading to improved workplace productivity.
    • Historical Influence on Technology: We explore the significant impact of psychedelics on the development of technology, including computers and the internet, with examples from notable figures like Steve Jobs.
    • Enhancing Creativity: Paul highlights how psychedelics can enhance creativity and problem-solving skills, with applications in design thinking at leading innovation centers.
    • Eastern vs. Western Perspectives: Our discussion contrasts Western and Eastern approaches to productivity and personal growth, finding a middle ground through microdosing.
    • Shifting Societal Attitudes: Paul points out the growing acceptance of psychedelics for therapeutic use, supported by influential voices and increasing public approval.
    • Overcoming Fear and Stigma: We talk about the role of microdosing in overcoming fear-based limitations and the importance of education to break the taboo surrounding psychedelics.
    • Resources for Learning: Paul shares recommended books and resources for those interested in exploring the potential benefits of psychedelics further.


    As we wrap up, it's clear that microdosing psychedelics holds great promise for enhancing productivity, creativity, and personal growth. Paul's insights offer a fresh perspective on how we can responsibly integrate these practices into our lives to achieve better outcomes.

    Links Worth Exploring

    • Connect with Paul: Website | LinkedIn | X/Twitter | Instagram
    • Get Paul's Book: Mastering Microdosing: How to Use Sub-Perceptual Psychedelics to Heal Trauma, Improve Performance, and Transform Your Life
    • Recommended Read #1: What the Dormouse Said
    • Recommended Read #2: From Counterculture to Cyberculture
    • Check out The Third Wave: Click here
    • Related Conversation: Episode 347: The Transparency Wave with Paul Pagnato
    • Related Blog Post: How To Find Your Way Forward (And Finish)


    Thanks to all of the sponsors of this episode. You can find all of the sponsors you heard me mention on this episode on our Podcast Sponsors page.

    Want to support the podcast? Beyond checking out our sponsors, you can subscribe to the show wherever you listen to podcasts. You can subscribe on Spotify and also on Apple Podcasts. Not using either of those to get your podcasts? Just click on this link and then paste the podcast feed into your podcast app of choice.

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    Khe Hy Talks About Evolving Productivity and Self-Awareness Jul 24, 2024
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    In this episode, I chat with Khe Hy about our personal journeys in productivity and how our mindsets and habits have evolved over time. We emphasize the importance of finding personalized systems that accommodate various tasks and projects, providing a sense of control and organization. Khe also shares his unique experiences in the music industry, highlighting the tension between pursuing fame and authenticity.

    Together, we explore the need to understand one’s motivations and desires rather than chasing external validation. Our discussion delves into our approaches to productivity and leisure, including the use of Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy to rewire our productivity mindset.

    Key Discussion Points

    • The shift from productivity to self-healing in our 40s.
    • How productivity systems change with different life stages and personal growth.
    • Balancing fame and authenticity in the music industry.
    • The importance of self-awareness and healing for true productivity.
    • Using Notion and other tools to capture and prioritize tasks effectively.
    • Daily routines and habits that promote work-life balance.
    • The impact of Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy on productivity and self-awareness.


    Khe Hy’s insights into evolving productivity and self-awareness offer valuable lessons for anyone looking to balance their work and personal life. His emphasis on healing, understanding personal motivations, and setting boundaries provides a holistic approach to productivity. Be sure to check out Khe’s work on radreads.co, his podcast, and follow him on Twitter and TikTok for more inspiring content.

    Links Worth Exploring

    • Connect with Khe: Website | YouTube | X/Twitter
    • Khe’s Conversation with Ali Abdaal from 202: Watch here
    • Cal Newport’s Deep Questions Episode: Our Love/Hate Relationship with Personal Productivity
    • Related Conversation: Episode 532: Laura Mae Martin Talks About Personalized Productivity Systems and Well-being
    • Related Blog Post: Nuanced Time Management: Embracing Complexity for Productivity


    Thanks to all of the sponsors of this episode. You can find all of the sponsors you heard me mention on this episode on our Podcast Sponsors page.

    Want to support the podcast? Beyond checking out our sponsors, you can subscribe to the show wherever you listen to podcasts. You can subscribe on Spotify and also on Apple Podcasts. Not using either of those to get your podcasts? Just click on this link and then paste the podcast feed into your podcast app of choice.

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    Marie-Hélène Pelletier Talks About Resilience and Sustaining Efforts Over Time Jul 17, 2024
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    In this episode, I’m joined by Marie-Hélène Pelletier, a renowned expert on resilience, productivity, and sustainable efforts. We dive deep into the concept of resilience, exploring how it requires sustained efforts over time and effective strategies to cope with unexpected challenges. Marie-Hélène shares insights from her latest book, which focuses on breaking the pattern of relying on resilience alone and emphasizes the importance of self-awareness and sustainability.

    Together, we reflect on our personal experiences and discuss the role of resilience in our lives. Marie-Hélène provides valuable strategies for monitoring and building a strong baseline of resilience, offering actionable steps for creating a structure to check in with ourselves and avoid self-destructive thoughts.

    Key Discussion Points

    • Resilience is not a given; it requires a strategy to cope with challenges.
    • External messages and internal self-talk shape our perception of being resilient.
    • The importance of self-awareness in measuring and building resilience.
    • Linking intentions with attention to avoid unhelpful thoughts affecting productivity.
    • The relationship between grit and resilience, with resilience offering an upgrade after challenges.
    • Creating a structure for self-check-ins to protect emotions and needs.
    • The book’s emphasis on understanding fundamentals before building a strategic approach.


    Marie-Hélène Pelletier’s insights on resilience and sustaining efforts over time are invaluable for anyone looking to enhance their productivity and mental health. Her book, “The Resilience Plan,” offers a strategic approach with practical exercises and actionable steps to help readers optimize their work performance and well-being. Don’t forget to visit resilienceplan.com for free worksheets and more information.

    Links Worth Exploring

    • Connect with Marie-Hélène: Website | LinkedIn | X/Twitter
    • Get Marie-Hélène’s Book: The Resilience Plan: A Strategic Approach to Optimizing Your Work Performance and Mental Health
    • Related Conversation: Episode 398: Juliet Funt talks about a Minute to Think
    • Related Blog Post: The Balance Between Urgency and Purpose


    Thanks to all of the sponsors of this episode. You can find all of the sponsors you heard me mention on this episode on our Podcast Sponsors page.

    Want to support the podcast? Beyond checking out our sponsors, you can subscribe to the show wherever you listen to podcasts. You can subscribe on Spotify and also on Apple Podcasts. Not using either of those to get your podcasts? Just click on this link and then paste the podcast feed into your podcast app of choice.

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    PM Talks S1E7: Perspective Jul 10, 2024
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    Welcome to the latest episode in our monthly series, PM Talks. In this episode, I sit down with Patrick to discuss the importance of perspective in our daily lives. We dive into our personal experiences with escaping the daily grind, the joys and challenges of investing in vacation homes, and the unique significance of family cabins.

    Patrick and I also explore how perspective shapes our understanding and interactions in various contexts, from personal experiences and storytelling to broader conversations. We touch on the challenges of navigating a fast-paced world and the benefits of giving oneself space to appreciate different viewpoints. This episode is packed with insights on how establishing a shared understanding can set the stage for successful projects and meaningful connections.

    Key Discussion Points

    • Our experiences with quick weekend getaways to family cabins, balancing busy schedules and relaxation.
    • The rich history and traditions of a family cabin in Minnesota, highlighting its generational significance.
    • The impact of perspective on reducing friction in various contexts, using examples like a multi-handled coffee mug and a Star Wars reference.
    • The challenges and unique viewpoints in watching circus performances, particularly a standout 16-year-old performer.
    • A discussion on Cirque du Soleil’s “Love” show, its technical marvels, and the different reactions from Beatles fans and seasoned Cirque viewers.
    • The relevance of George Orwell's "1984" to modern society and how perspective can shift our understanding of literature and life.
    • The importance of empathy and perspective-taking in communication, emphasizing the need to understand the "why" behind someone's viewpoint.


    As we wrap up, Patrick and I reflect on how travel and new experiences can broaden our perspectives and lead to personal growth. We share anecdotes, such as my daughter’s transformative trip to Europe, illustrating how different viewpoints can profoundly impact our understanding of the world. We also delve into how aligning projects with personal values and perspectives is key to feeling a sense of completion and fulfillment.

    Links Worth Exploring

    • Patrick's Website
    • What is the Barash Vow?
    • Here's the book that Patrick was talking about
    • About Nuance...
    • ...and Choices


    Thanks to all of the sponsors of this episode. You can find all of the sponsors you heard me mention on this episode on our Podcast Sponsors page.

    Want to support the podcast? Beyond checking out our sponsors, you can subscribe to the show wherever you listen to podcasts. You can subscribe on Spotify and also on Apple Podcasts. Not using either of those to get your podcasts? Just click on this link and then paste the podcast feed into your podcast app of choice.

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    Kevin Surace Talks About AI and Maintaining Productivity Jul 03, 2024
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    In this episode, I have a conversation with Kevin Surace, a prolific inventor and AI expert with 94 worldwide patents. Kevin and I dive into the strategies for maintaining productivity and purpose in life, including prioritizing tasks, managing energy levels, and navigating the second phase of life. We also explore the impact of AI on society and productivity, highlighting both its benefits and challenges.

    Throughout our discussion, Kevin shares his insights on the potential and limitations of AI assistants in content creation and relationship advice, emphasizing the need to use these tools responsibly and ethically. We offer practical advice and strategies for balancing various roles and responsibilities while maintaining productivity and purpose in life.

    Key Discussion Points

    • The importance of productivity and prioritization, emphasizing real-world problem-solving and finding joy in work.
    • Strategies for maintaining energy and focus, including the benefits of being a night owl and the importance of exercise.
    • The potential impact of AI on jobs and productivity, highlighting both opportunities and challenges.
    • How AI tools like Otter.ai, GPT, Copilot, and Dall-E can increase productivity by automating tasks and generating ideas.
    • The responsible use of AI language models for refining prompts and enhancing creative processes.
    • The role of AI in improving critical thinking and fostering innovation in various fields.
    • Practical advice for entrepreneurs, especially those in the second phase of life, on identifying real problems and turning them into successful businesses.


    In closing, Kevin and I reflect on the exciting possibilities that AI brings to productivity and innovation, while also stressing the importance of using these tools ethically. We hope this episode provides valuable insights and practical advice for maintaining productivity and finding purpose in your personal and professional life.

    Links Worth Exploring

    • Connect with Kevin: Website | LinkedIn | X/Twitter
    • Related Conversation: Episode 513: Haris Butt Talks About AI and Productivity Enhancements
    • Related Blog Post: There’s Nothing Wrong with Being a Night Owl


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    Want to support the podcast? Beyond checking out our sponsors, you can subscribe to the show wherever you listen to podcasts. You can subscribe on Spotify and also on Apple Podcasts. Not using either of those to get your podcasts? Just click on this link and then paste the podcast feed into your podcast app of choice.

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    FROM THE VAULT: Corey Poirier Talks About Finding Your Passion and Overcoming Public Speaking Fears Jun 26, 2024
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    In this episode of the podcast, I'm joined by Corey Poirier, a renowned speaker and author for a special double episode. We discuss the inspiration behind writing a parable-style book (like his book "The Enlightened Passenger", the importance of passion in one's work, and the unique challenges of stand-up comedy. Corey shares his journey of discovering his passion for speaking and teaching others how to find their own passion, providing listeners with practical advice and insights along the way.

    We also revisit Corey's previous appearance on the show, where he shares the critical steps to overcoming public speaking fears, including Corey's 90-day program that offers weekly video trainings, a supportive social media community, and expert Q&A sessions. Corey emphasizes the significance of taking baby steps in conquering these fears and launching a successful speaking career.

    As we wrap up the conversation, Corey leaves us with actionable steps to help listeners embark on their own journey of discovering and pursuing their passions. His insights and experiences serve as a valuable guide for anyone looking to overcome their fears and achieve their dreams.

    Key Discussion Points

    • The inspiration behind Corey Poirier's parable-style book "The Enlightened Passenger" and its layered approach to personal growth and spirituality.
    • Corey's journey from stand-up comedy to keynote speaking, highlighting the transformative impact of following one's passion.
    • The role of passion in one's work and how Corey discovered his through stand-up comedy and speaking.
    • Practical advice for overcoming public speaking fears, including stage training programs like Toastmasters and Dale Carnegie.
    • The importance of taking baby steps to build confidence in public speaking and how Corey's 90-day program supports this process.
    • Corey shares insights on finding one's passion, starting with a pen and paper exercise to reflect on what one would do if money weren't an issue.
    • Tips for avoiding distractions during the passion-finding process, such as turning off notifications and moving your phone away.


    This episode with Corey Poirier is packed with valuable insights and practical advice on finding and pursuing your passion, overcoming public speaking fears, and achieving personal growth. Whether you're looking to make a career change or simply want to conquer your fears, Corey's journey and expertise offer a wealth of inspiration and guidance.

    Links Worth Exploring

    • Connect with Corey: Website | LinkedIn | X/Twitter
    • Get Corey’s Book: The Enlightened Passenger
    • Explore one of Corey's other initiatives: Learn more about bLU Talks
    • Learn more about Corey's speaker program: Check it out here
    • Related Conversation: Episode 446: How to Fight a Hydra with Josh Kaufman
    • Related Blog Post: Why I’m Passionate About Personal Productivity


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