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30 Minutes to President’s Club | No-Nonsense Sales

The #1 sales podcast in the world, fueled by hyper-actionable sales tactics from the top 1% sellers at companies like Salesforce, Gong, Outreach, Slack, LinkedIn, Keller Williams, Northwestern Mutual.

30 Minutes to President’s Club cuts all the BS, fluffy mindset stories, and sales academia to give you the most actionable sales tactics that get you to President’s Club. Every episode is a supercharged 30 minutes where you’ll hear step-by-step breakdowns in every key dimension of sales, including:

Prospecting: How to open conversations to triple your pipeline

Discovery: How to ask questions that uncover massive pain

Process: How to get big contracts over the line

Leadership: How to hire and train world class teams.

Your founding hosts are Nick Cegelski (3x top enterprise seller) and Armand Farrokh (VP of Sales at 29, ex-Pave, ex-Carta) joined by co-host Mark Kosoglow (CRO @ Catalyst, ex-Outreach).

Whether you’re a seller listening to the (SELL) show or leader tuning into the (LEAD) show…

Get ready, you’re going to President’s Club.

Copyright: © 2024 30 Minutes to President's Club | No-Nonsense Sales

Latest Episodes:

#449 - When and How Sales Leaders Should Get Involved in Rep's Deals | Rex Galbraith Apr 17, 2025

Show notes

Consensus close rate guide: https://goconsensus.com/checklist/close-rates-demo-automation/

ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS:

Time-Box Your Tools: Avoid checking Slack or email first thing in the morning—protect your focus by starting the day with intention.
Buyer Actions > Seller Actions: Sales progress should be measured by what the buyer does, not how many activities the seller logs.
Build a Momentum Score: Track 7–10 buyer behaviors (like demo views or EB engagement) to score deal health and predict close rates.
Deals Must Survive 3 Rings: Every deal faces three negotiation phases—champion, procurement, and final signer, so plan resources accordingly.

REX'S PATH TO PRESIDENTS CLUB:

Chief Revenue Officer @ Consensus
Senior Vice President of Sales @ Consensus
Vice President of Sales @ Consensus
Director of Sales @ HireVue

RESOURCES DISCUSSED:

30MPC Training: 30mpc.com/training

#448 - The Top 15 Tips EVER From The 30MPC Podcast | 300 Episode Special Apr 15, 2025

Show notes

Here are our 15 favorite tips from all 300 episodes of the 30 Minutes to Presidents Club Podcast

Top 3 Cold Calling Tips

Use "The Ledge" to buy yourself a second after objections with a preset line like “This one's totally on me.”
Chunk up problems by translating tactical pain into executive-level consequences to earn senior interest. Watch the full ep
A Tailored Permission Opener earns attention by referencing a relevant trigger and owning that it’s a cold call.

Top 3 Cold Email Tips

Run the triple by stacking a call, email, and LinkedIn touch to show you're a real human and boost response rates.
Use relevant personalization by connecting a specific trigger to a problem you can solve.
Trigger templates let you templatize personalization at scale while keeping it relevant and problem-focused.

Top 3 Discovery Tips

PPO (Purpose, Plan, Outcome) sets clear call expectations and avoids meandering discovery.
Bucket questions steer conversations toward known problem areas while establishing credibility.
Humbling disclaimers help you ask hard or sensitive questions without putting the prospect on the defensive.

Top 3 Deal Process Tips

The champion sandwich uses a prep call, exec meeting, and debrief to drive alignment and control.
Test champions by asking how they'll justify the deal internally to reveal their true influence.
Popcorn pricing anchors buyers toward larger packages with outsized perceived value.

Top 3 Leadership Tips

Document the wiggle (WGLL) by showing reps what great looks like with real examples and proof.
Practice forward by role-playing for upcoming meetings instead of only reviewing past ones.
Invert the hiring funnel by selling top candidates early, then opting them into deeper interviews and testing.

30MPC Training: 30mpc.com/training

#447 - How to Fully Measure Your Sales Reps | Eleanor Dorfman | 30MPC Hall of Fame Apr 14, 2025

Show notes

ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS:

SPFs for Short-Term Change: Use SPFs to drive short-term behavior changes. Long-term shifts should align with consistent metrics in your "iron square" framework.
Strict Holdover Rules: Allow one quarter for closing open opportunities after a territory change if they’re past stage two. No exceptions ensure fairness and consistency.
The Iron Square: Track rep productivity with win rate, AE-sourced pipeline, total pipeline generation, and forecast accuracy, with quota attainment as the central North Star.
Customer-First Processes: Avoid letting internal rules disrupt customer experience. Build buffer zones in ROEs and territories to minimize deal handoffs.

ELEANOR'S PATH TO PRESIDENTS CLUB:

Head of Sales @ Retool
Global Head of Commercial Retention & Regional Director of Commercial Sales @ Segment
Global Head of Commercial Renewals and Retention @ Segment
Head of Customer Success and Solutions engineering @ Clever Inc

RESOURCES DISCUSSED:

30MPC Training: 30mpc.com/training

#446 - How to Teach Discovery Without Confusing the Hell Out of Your Sales Team | 30MPC Playbook (Lead) Apr 10, 2025

Show notes

🎁 Save $50 — Get our step-by-step discovery video course for just $249 with code PODCAST

https://www.30mpc.com/course/discovery-course

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Master the structure, questions, and flow of high-impact discovery calls

ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS:

Keep It Simple with a 3x3 Framework: Break the discovery call into three sections (agenda, meat, next steps), each with three core moves. This keeps reps oriented and avoids overwhelming them with 57-point checklists.
Teach What to Get, Not Just What to Ask: Don't just train reps on questions. Teach them the four layers of discovery: situation → operational problem → executive problem → business impact. When they know where they’re going, they can improvise better questions.
Use Repetition to Lock It In: Roll out discovery training in small chunks (preferably 2–3 sessions). Reinforce it weekly through tape reviews, roleplays, and pipeline reviews to evolve reps from 101 → 201 → 301 level skills.
Discovery Trees Should Evolve Over Time: Start with a few problem trees, then refine them through live calls and team feedback. Your trees get "seasoned" over time—just like cast iron—with real examples, new objections, and better talk tracks.

30MPC Training: 30mpc.com/training

#445 - The Ultimate Discovery Call Framework Used by Top 1% Sellers | 30MPC Playbook (Sell) Apr 08, 2025

Show notes

🎁 Save $50 — Get our step-by-step discovery video course for just $249 with code PODCAST

https://www.30mpc.com/course/discovery-course

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YouTube video version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0H6G7toc9s

ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS:

Structure Your Call in 3 Parts: Great discovery calls have three distinct chapters—(1) the first five minutes to establish credibility and set your PPO agenda (Purpose, Plan, Outcome), (2) the next 20 minutes to uncover meaningful problems while building trust, and (3) the last five minutes to run your Five Minute Drill and determine if it’s worth setting a next step.
Use Discovery Trees to Guide Questions: Map out your prospect’s problems in four layers—situation, operational pain, executive problem, and business impact. Use simple transitions like “so what?” to climb down the tree, and reverse it when execs start with big priorities. Don’t just ask questions—build a roadmap first.
Balance Give and Take: If you only ask questions, you’re interrogating. Use playbacks, pile-ons, praise, and parallel stories to add value throughout the call and build trust. Use vertical questions to go deeper on one topic instead of jumping all over the place.
Run a Tight Five Minute Drill: In the last five minutes, validate if they want to solve the problem, when they want to solve it, and how they buy. Suggest the timeline and buying process based on what you’ve seen work—not what they think they should do. If they’re serious, schedule the next step while you’re still on the call.

30MPC Training: 30mpc.com/training

Product Roadmap: Q2 2025 (The 30MPC Discovery Course is Here) Apr 07, 2025

Show notes

🎁 Save $50 — Get our step-by-step discovery video course for just $249 with code PODCAST

https://www.30mpc.com/course/discovery-course

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Discovery Call Review: Talk Tracks & Tactics From A Top 1% Rep ft. Armand Farrokh, Makenna Turner, and David Rosenstein

https://tactics.30mpc.com/real-discovery-call-review-talk-tracks-tactics-from-a-top-1-rep

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7-Figure Sales Secrets: How to Close Your Biggest Deal in 2025 ft. Jason Bay and Jonathan Larson

https://tactics.30mpc.com/7-figure-sales-secrets-how-to-close-your-biggest-deal-in-2025

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How to Run Sales 1:1s and Coaching Sessions (That Don't Suck) ft. Kevin Dorsey

https://tactics.30mpc.com/how-to-run-sales-1-1s-and-coaching-sessions-that-dont-suck

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How to Break into ENT Accounts with (Non-Cringey) AI Emails ft. Mark Kosoglow

https://tactics.30mpc.com/how-to-break-into-enterprise-accounts-with-non-cringey-ai-emails

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Discovery Trees: Your Blueprint Uncover Massive Business Problems

https://tactics.30mpc.com/create-your-own-discovery-tree-with-examples

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7 Discovery Questions That Don't Feel Like Sales Questions

https://tactics.30mpc.com/7-discovery-questions-that-dont-feel-like-sales-questions

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#444 - Reignite Your Remote Sales Team With This One Tactic | Todd Caponi Apr 03, 2025

Show notes

Sign up for the 30MPC Discovery Course today and learn how top sellers lead high-impact discovery calls that land bigger deals: https://www.30mpc.com/course/discovery-course

FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

Run firmographic sprints with customer interviews. Ask about headwinds/tailwinds, KPIs, where they learn, and which sales emails stand out to better understand their world.
Prep customers before training sessions. Make it clear their job is to teach the buyer’s world—not give a product testimonial—so reps get true industry insight.
Structure sprints for learning and sharing. Start with external education, then shift to reps sharing industry insights weekly to build confidence and fluency.
Use recognition over cash to motivate. A visible $100 spiff with scarcity and public praise was more effective than a quiet commission boost. Recognition > raw dollars.

PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

Founder, Speaker, & Workshop Leader @ Sales Melon
Author (The Transparency Sale & The Transparent Sales Leader)
Managing Director @ VentureScale
Chief Revenue Officer @ PowerReviews

RESOURCES DISCUSSED

30MPC Training: 30mpc.com/training

#443 - How to Keep it Simple When Selling to Execs | Morgan Melo Apr 01, 2025

Show notes

🎁 Save $50 — Get our step-by-step discovery video course for just $249 with code PODCAST

https://www.30mpc.com/course/discovery-course

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FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

Assume your buyer has 60 seconds to pitch your product internally. When sending recaps or justification materials, skip the deck—send 2–3 crisp bullets that clearly communicate the top reasons to buy.
Reset the agenda mid-call if needed. If a buyer jumps straight into content or things go off the rails, pause and suggest how to best use the remaining time. This keeps the call focused and productive.
Use a “vibey demo” to open, then do deeper discovery later. Morgan starts with a product overview to spark curiosity, then uses the second call to dig into what resonated and why—leading to richer discovery.
Reverse-engineer problems from product interest. When a buyer reacts positively to a feature, follow up with, “People usually want that because they’re struggling with X or Y—what’s going on in your world?”

PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

Strategic Account Director @ Pave
Enterprise Account Executive @ Pave
Healthcare & Life Science Account Executive @ Carta
Client Strategist @ PwC

RESOURCES DISCUSSED

30MPC Training: 30mpc.com/training

#442 - How to Sell Without Sounding Like a Salesperson | Courtany Williams Mar 27, 2025

Show notes

Sign up for the 30MPC Discovery Course today and learn how top sellers lead high-impact discovery calls that land bigger deals: https://www.30mpc.com/course/discovery-course

FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

Your growth ICP might differ from your new business ICP: New Biz = CRM, but Growth is all about whitespace. Growth isn’t just about net new—it’s about expanding within. Think users, not logos.
How are customers already interacting with your company:Take advantage of support. Train your support team on upsell triggers – chat, email, drift. Example: How can I do more emailing in the tool? Marketing automation.
Big Deal Review: Double ACV Through Team Selling. Want bigger deals? Put more eyes on them. Biweekly Reviews: 2 AEs present deals to VP, peers, SEs. Open discussion. Team Selling in Action: Everyone contributes—challenges, ideas, strategy.
Weekly Round table: Start weekly team meetings with open sharing. Surfacing challenges early helps you prioritize and tackle what matters most.

COURTANY'S PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

Director, Growth Sales @ Unbounce
Director of Growth Sales @ Insightly
Sales Manager, Growth @ Insightly
Senior Account Executive @ Insightly
Corporate Account Executive @ UserTesting

RESOURCES DISCUSSED

Read: Join our weekly newsletter
Steal: Templates, drips, scripts

30MPC Training: 30mpc.com/training

#441 - The #1 Mistake Reps Make When Moving from Disco to Demo | Kevin "KD" Dorsey Mar 25, 2025

Show notes

🎁 Save $50 — Get our step-by-step discovery video course for just $249 with code PODCAST

https://www.30mpc.com/course/discovery-course

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FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

Demo with KPIC + Make Them Hold It: Tie each feature to a known problem and impact, then ask how they'd use it to make the solution tangible and relevant.
Use “Assuming We Can…”: Frame your solution as a possibility to lower defenses. This pulls the prospect in and gets them imagining success without feeling sold to.
Reference Problem Children: Personalize the demo by naming specific team members or pain points, making it easier for the buyer to visualize solving their real-world problems.
Multithread with Purpose: Frame next steps as critical to their success, not yours—“To get you what you want, we’ll need Jane’s input too. How can we involve her?”

KD'S PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

CRO @ Finally
SVP of Sales and Partnerships @ Bench Accounting
Practice Lead, Revenue Leadership @ Winning by Design
VP of Inside Sales @ PatientPop Inc.
Head of Sales Enablement & Development @ ServiceTitan
VP of Sales @ SnackNation

RESOURCES DISCUSSED

Read: Join our weekly newsletter
Steal: Templates, drips, scripts

30MPC Training: 30mpc.com/training

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