#24: Jen Elizabeth has dedicated her second chance at life to addiction recovery and healing from childhood traumas. She is a recognized writer, speaker, and recovery activist living in Southern California. She shares her story, the wreckage and the reckoning, as a way to keep the light on for anyone who is suffering under the darkness of shame and silence.
Ashley sits down with Jen in this interview to discuss the myriad of inter-generational traumas that she has faced, including mental health issues, addiction, eating disorders and molestation at an early age.
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Show Notes:
2:30 - Jen’s book - “Shape of a Woman” + the other books that are in the process of being written
3:55 - Revisiting the wounds in her childhood when speaking about her experiences with her own children
4:45 - Speaking about her family and the background with her mother’s mental illness
6:10 - “Why doesn’t she want to live for me?”
7:08 - Explaining the diseases of Munchausen and Munchausen by Proxy
10:50 - Referencing the TV show “Sharp Objects” to help understand Munchausen and Munchausen by Proxy
12:45 - Referencing the Netflix movie “Mommy Dead and Dearest” about the story of Gypsy Rose and her mother who was diagnosed with Munchausen by Proxy
14:03 - Moving to Mobile, Alabama to join a cult with her family as a young child
16:55 - Talking about when the molestation happened and how it escalated
23:07 - Having to work through the feeling of participation in her sexual molestation
24:07 - Referencing the started documentary “The Flock” about the cult she was in (the documentary never aired)
24:45 - The man that secretly was rescuing families from the situation
25:15 - Coming back to California at age 9
27:19 - Telling her parents about the molestation that happened in the cult
32:49 - The present family dynamic
34:33 - “Alcohol and drugs did save me” - the moment she became an alcoholic
36:35 - The first time Jen picked up heroin
37:53 - Jen’s eating disorder, mimicked by what she saw in her own mother
41:20 - The complications of prison + addiction
43:30 - Her boyfriend’s murder
48:55 - Jen’s moment of change - a divine intervention - and her clean date
51:30 - Struggling through the beginnings of sobriety
52:38 - Starting to “do the work” in her recovery
55:00 - Getting pregnant with her first child and how she started to love herself as a woman
1:01:10 - The fear she started facing as a mother
1:16:31 - “If you’re searching for a way out, you’ll always find a way out”
1:17:44 - Talking about being a member of 12-step programs along with other ways Jen maintains her recovery
1:24:55 - Shape of a Woman - the birth or her book
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