The Business of Dance

Latest Episodes:

44 - Kim McSwain: Michael Jackson, Britney Spears, KM Agency Oct 27, 2024

Episode Summary:

Kim McSwain, a passionate dancer and teacher with a career spanning from her early beginnings to founding her own dance agency. Kim began dance at age three, developing a strong foundation through intensive ballet training and competitive tap. At age 24, she moved to Los Angeles, navigating financial struggles while working multiple jobs to support her career. Her breakthrough came with high-profile projects for artists like Britney Spears and Michael Jackson. Eventually, Kim transitioned to teaching, which she found deeply fulfilling, especially in inspiring young dancers.

Kim discusses her work with KM Agency, which includes dance programs like The Movement and Blake Stanley Technique, designed to elevate studio standards and support dancers' growth. Her dedication has led her business to success, especially by supporting dance studios recovering post-COVID. Kim emphasizes that proper training for teachers is essential for the industry’s future.

Throughout the episode, Kim advises dancers to pursue their passion, monetize their skills, and persist through challenges. She emphasizes the long-term potential of a dance career, countering the notion that it’s short-lived. During a Q&A, Kim answers questions on breaking into the industry, finding teaching roles, and handling transitions from studio to professional life.

Show Notes:

(0:03) Kim's Early Dance Journey
(6:04) Transition to Los Angeles and Early Career Challenges
(15:27) Career Highlights and Teaching Passion
(16:20) Building a Dance Business and Impacting the Industry
(21:57) Advice for Aspiring Dancers and Industry Insights
(28:01) Q&A Session with Mentees
(40:15) Reflecting on Career and Personal Growth
(55:19) Final Thoughts and Encouragement

Biography:

From an early age, Kim's passion for dance was undeniable. Beginning her training at the tender age of three, she dove into the world of dance with a focus that belied her years. By eight, Kim was dedicating thirty hours a week to ballet, a testament to her dedication and love for the art. Her talent was unmistakable, leading her to clinch third place nationally at a prestigious tap event by the age of twelve, an event sponsored by the renowned tap virtuoso, Gregory Hines. Hines, struck by Kim's exceptional skill, personally visited her studio in Dallas to offer a private lesson, a rare honor that highlighted her early promise.

As Kim turned 24, her journey took her to the vibrant city of Los Angeles. There, her career flourished as she found herself sharing stages and film sets with icons such as Britney Spears, N’Sync, Michael Jackson, Jennifer Lopez, and Ben Affleck. Despite her success in the performance world, Kim felt a compelling draw towards education, choosing to channel her energies into nurturing the next generation of dancers.

Kim's teaching career began with Adrenaline on the convention circuit, quickly escalating to her joining the ranks of JUMP, the world's largest dance convention. Over six years, Kim imparted her knowledge in a variety of styles, from ballet to hip-hop, to thousands of eager students weekly. Her journey continued as she took on the role of Children’s Director at NUVO, focusing on technical excellence and personal growth, earning acclaim for her ability to inspire not just outstanding performers, but outstanding individuals.

Kim's contributions to dance education have been celebrated in notable publications such as Dance Media and Dance Teacher Magazine. Beyond the convention circuit, Kim has lent her expertise as a coach for the DANCE STUDIO OWNERS ASSOCIATION, further cementing her role as a pivotal figure in the dance community.

In a bold move, Kim shifted her focus to the KM Agency, home to the transformative Changing Lives program, and now owns 5 companies: THE MOVEMENT, THE MOMENT, THE METHOD, and CLEAN & CRITIQUE, and BLAKE STANLEY TECHNIQUE.

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43 - Kelly Sweeney: Descendants: Rise of Red, Shakira, J Lo Oct 20, 2024

Episode Summary:

Kelly Sweeney, a Mexican-American dancer with an impressive career that began at 15. Kelly shares how she transitioned from musical theater and gymnastics to dance after an ankle condition led her to focus on training seriously at age 10. By 15, she had signed with the MSA agency, launching her professional career.

Kelly talks about completing the California High School Proficiency Exam (CHSPE) at 16 to work as a legal adult, allowing her to balance her dance career and academics. She also highlights how her bilingualism and dual citizenship have helped her connect with students and colleagues in places like Argentina and Costa Rica. Kelly describes how her choreography for Disney's Descendants Red went viral, attracting attention from music labels and increasing her social media following. She shares her experiences working with Disney and attending the Descendants premiere.

Kelly answers questions about her creative process, favorite jobs (such as performing at the Oscars and working with Shakira), and overcoming creative blocks. She emphasizes the importance of mental health breaks and finding inspiration in music and visuals. Kelly shares the biggest lessons she's learned, including being your own teacher and managing time wisely. She also highlights what she looks for in a dancer—technique, attention to detail, and performance balance.

Kelly praises Jennifer Lopez's work ethic and shares her aspirations for choreographing more music videos and movies. She also talks about the importance of using social media to motivate and inspire others. Kelly discusses how her Latina heritage has played a significant role in her career, advising dancers to embrace and showcase their cultural identity. She emphasizes the importance of practicing choreography retention and the value of ballet in her dance development.

Throughout the episode, Kelly provides valuable insights and advice for aspiring dancers, stressing the importance of persistence, creativity, and self-discipline.

Show Notes:

(0:03) Kelly Sweeney's Introduction and Early Dance Journey
(5:55) Balancing Dance and Academics
(14:56) The Viral Choreography of Descendants Red
(24:06) Q&A with Young Dancers
(30:18) Advice for Aspiring Dancers
(39:07) Inspiration and Future Goals
(59:46) Cultural Identity and Language Skills

Biography:

Born in Mexico and raised in L.A., Kelly Sweeney began her professional dance and choreography career at 15. Since then, she has danced and choreographed for major performing artists, including Jlo, Bebe Rexha, Lil Uzi, Neyo, Shakira, and Nick Jonas.

She has also worked in motion pictures, music videos, NBA teams and award shows. Kelly’s very passionate about her teaching, and has fixed teaching slots at Millenium and Playground LA studios as well as major national and international dance conventions.

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42 - Swoosh (Flawless UK, Britain's Got Talent, Madonna, Spice Girls) Oct 13, 2024

Episode Summary:

Menina interviews Swoosh, who began dancing at age four, inspired by Michael Jackson. He recalls teaching himself dance through TV, as dance wasn’t as accessible in the UK during the 80s. His passion grew through family performances and school talent shows. Encouraged by a school teacher, Swoosh started taking dance seriously after a successful school talent show performance. He pursued formal training in ballet, contemporary, and jazz, expanding his skills and understanding of dance technique, which shaped his professional journey.

Swoosh formed Flawless, a now-famous dance group, starting as a boys-only club at his school. He valued mentality over ability in selecting members. Flawless trained hard, won their first UK championship, and continued to excel in international competitions, including the USA vs. UK championship. Swoosh reflects on Flawless’ rise to global fame after their appearance on Britain's Got Talent, which led to sold-out tours and a larger fanbase. Flawless has since expanded from a core group to an academy, training the next generation of dancers.

Swoosh embraced TikTok during the pandemic, growing his following by bulk-creating content and collaborating with celebrities. He highlights the importance of using social media strategically to build a personal brand and advises dancers to focus on their unique qualities. Swoosh encourages dancers to embrace their individuality and purpose. He emphasizes building consistent content for social media, using personality to stand out, and staying true to oneself in auditions.

Swoosh closes with words of encouragement, urging dancers to stay authentic and focused on their purpose. Menina thanks him for his insights, concluding the episode on a hopeful note for future collaborations.

Show Notes:

(0:03) Swoosh's Early Dance Journey
(4:07) Transition to Professional Dance
(17:32) Formation of Flawless
(23:49) Britain's Got Talent and Beyond
(30:55) TikTok Success and Social Media Strategy
(40:56) Advice for Aspiring Dancers
(44:13) Audience Questions and Final Thoughts
(50:02) Closing Remarks

Biography:

International Artist, Dancer, Choreographer, and entrepreneur Marlon “Swoosh” Wallen born and raised in London has been making footprints in the dance world for over 20+ years! In addition to helping some of the biggest names in the industry, Swoosh is the founder of the Britains Got Talent Stars Flawless, who shot to fame starring in Street Dance Movies 1 & 2 , traveling the world, inspiring people of all ages to love the way they move. Some of Swoosh’s credits include: Founder of FLAWLESS UK Hip Hop Champion IDO World Hip Hop Champion HHI Hip Hop Champion USA VS UK Champion Britain’s Got Talent Queens Diamond Jubilee Madonna, French Montana , Kylie Minouge, Spice Girls, Chip, Giggs, Skepta, Emilie Sandi Swoosh continues to make waves in 2024 with Flawless Performances, Teaching, Judging, Mentoring internationally.

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41 - Tiffany Maher: So You Think You Can Dance, Step Up Revolution, Tremaine Dance Conventions Oct 06, 2024

Episode Summary:

Tiffany Maher shares her extensive career in dance, from her early beginnings to her success in the industry. Tiffany started dancing at age three and transitioned from a competitive dance kid to a faculty member at the Tremaine Dance Convention, emphasizing the importance of passion and dedication.

She pursued a Bachelor's of Science degree while balancing her dance career, showcasing the significance of time management. Tiffany took a semester off to compete on So You Think You Can Dance and later completed her degree online while living in Los Angeles.

Tiffany stresses the value of professionalism and maintaining a strong mindset, especially when facing rejection in the dance industry. Her experiences on So You Think You Can Dance opened doors to new opportunities, leading to work on projects like Rock of Ages and Step Up Revolution.

The episode highlights the growing role of social media and brand deals for dancers, as Tiffany shares her success with platforms like TikTok, emphasizing the need for dancers to be treated as athletes and paid fairly for their work.

Throughout the episode, Tiffany offers valuable advice for aspiring dancers, including the importance of building connections, managing time effectively, and staying true to oneself. She encourages dancers to focus on their craft and maintain a positive mindset, despite the challenges and uncertainties of the industry.

Show Notes:

(0:03) Early Years and Dance Beginnings
(4:46) Academic Pursuits and Balancing Dance
(7:20) Time Management and Professionalism
(14:37) Mindset and Overcoming Rejection
(19:28) So You Think You Can Dance Experience
(23:22) Transition to LA and Industry Opportunities
(26:57) Brand Deals and Social Media Opportunities
(37:30) Advice for Aspiring Dancers
(37:43) Audience Questions and Answers
(41:36) Career Path and Teaching
(46:17) Building Connections and Industry Insights
(52:05) Adapting to TV Shows and Industry Challenges
(59:46) Final Thoughts and Encouragement

Biography:

Tiffany Maher is Season 9 runner up on SYTYCD. She has appeared as Devil Girl Christine for three seasons on Hit VH1 & BET Drama Series Hit The Floor. Tiffany has danced on ABC Family’s hit show The Fosters, The Voice, Glee, Mr. Iglesias, America’s Greatest Hits, Days of Our Lives, Sex Life of College Girls, and on Disney Channel shows Girl Meets World, Just Roll With It, Austin and Ally, Shake It Up, Liv and Maddie, Walk the Prank, and K.C. Undercover. She has also appeared on many awards shows including The American Music Awards, The Video Music Awards, The Billboard Music Awards, The Teen Choice Awards, and The Latin American Music Awards.

She has worked with many artists including Jennifer Lopez, Justin Bieber, Taylor Swift, Ariana Grande, Jason Derulo, Pitbull, Charlie Puth, Kelsea Ballerini, Natasha Bedingfield, Zendaya, Jordan Fisher, Carly Rae Jepsen, J Balvin, Neyo, Todrick Hall, Becky G, Ozuna, CNCO, Prince Royce, Kool & The Gang, Flo Rida, Prince Royce, Andrea Boceli, Alvaro, Wisin & Yandel, Karol G, Anuel, Nodal, Dollar, Tini, Nacho, Ludacris, James Franco, and more.

Her favorite performance with an artist was performing with JLO in the 2020 SuperBowl. Tiffany has been seen in the films Trolls, Rock of Ages, Valley Girl, and Step Up Revolution. You can also find her in the Hallmark movie Merry Ex-Mas acting playing Rockstar Discrete, and in short film Shake It Off. She also appeared in a 2014 Ford SuperBowl Commercial, 2017 Target Commercial, and a Reebok Industrial. Tiffany recently entered the digital world over the pandemic leading her to brand deals through Tik Tok with Home Goods, Pepsi, Nike Air Max, HypeRice, Normatec, Show Me Your MuMu, Bullet Proof, and many more.

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40 - Nellie Bethel: Denmark to USA - J Lo, MJ One & US Work Visas Sep 29, 2024

Episode Summary:

Nellie Bethel, a dynamic Danish dancer who moved to Los Angeles to pursue her dreams. She begins by sharing her early dance experiences in Denmark, where she started dancing at the age of 10, focusing on MTV-style classes. Her first professional role was in a street dance rendition of "The Nutcracker," which ignited her desire to travel to New York and delve into the roots of hip-hop. However, an encounter with a friend who offered her a place to stay in LA shifted her plans, leading her to fall in love with the vibrant house dance scene in the new city.

Nellie discusses the challenges she faced in obtaining a U.S. visa, highlighting the cultural differences between Denmark and the United States. Accustomed to the modesty of Danish culture, she found it difficult to promote herself assertively—a necessity in the American visa process.

Upon arriving in Los Angeles, Nellie navigated the competitive dance industry, initially grappling with auditions and adapting to the commercial dance style, including performing in high heels. She shares pivotal moments in her career, such as being booked for a Super Bowl performance with Madonna but being released due to her height. Undeterred, she later secured a long-term collaboration with Jennifer Lopez for her Las Vegas residency.

Concluding the interview, Nellie expresses profound gratitude for the support she's received throughout her journey and reaffirms her commitment to inspiring others. She acknowledges both the challenges and rewards of the dance industry, urging dancers to embrace their unique paths, remain dedicated, and persistently work towards achieving their dreams.

Show Notes:

(0:03) Nellie Bethel's Early Dance Journey and Move to the U.S.
(6:15) Navigating the Visa Process and Early Career Challenges
(17:45) Breaking into the LA Scene and Adapting to Commercial Dance
(33:45) Key Career Milestones and Lessons Learned
(36:37) Audience Questions and Advice for Aspiring Dancers
(1:02:38) Final Thoughts and Encouragement

Biography:

Nellie Bethel, a native of Copenhagen, Denmark, is a dynamic and versatile dancer whose passion for movement knows no bounds. Her artistic journey began at Flow Dance Academy, where she received a comprehensive education and honed her skills to perfection. At the age of 18, Nellie took a leap of faith and moved to the United States, where she embarked on a remarkable path that led her to achieve her biggest dreams.

Nellie's dance credits include collaborations with some of the most prominent music artists of our time. From sharing the stage with icons like JLo, Rihanna, Beyoncé, Mya, Dan & Shay, Meghan Trainor, Demi Lovato, Kanye West, Fergie, and Shaggy, she has demonstrated her exceptional talent and ability to adapt to diverse musical styles.

Her performances have graced prestigious events such as the Superbowl Halftime show, The Grammys, the Oscars, X-factor, Eurovision, Americas Got Talent, and the Masked Singer, captivating audiences on a global scale. She is currently performing at MJ One by Cirque du Soleil, a powerhouse celebration of Michael Jackson, the King of Pop.

Nellie's artistic prowess extends beyond performing, as she has also established herself as a notable choreographer. Her achievements in this realm include working on productions like Pretty Woman: The Musical in 2022 and two seasons of The Masked Singer in Denmark.

Driven by her passion for movement, Nellie Bethel continues to evolve and inspire as a versatile dancer, choreographer, and performer. Her portfolio reflects a wide range of styles, from freestyle to commercial dancing and theatrical productions. With each endeavor, Nellie brings her unique flair and artistic sensibility, leaving a lasting impression on audiences worldwide.

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39 - Sheldon Robins: Self-Taught Street Dancer with Mariah Carey, Will Smith, Michael Jackson to Entertainment Mogul with a Masters Degree Sep 22, 2024

Episode Summary:

Host Menina Fortunato interviews the multifaceted Sheldon Robins, whose extensive career encompasses film directing, producing, acting, and dancing. Sheldon begins by recounting his early days in New York, where he immersed himself in block parties and street dancing. This involvement led to his first significant break with LL Cool J and eventually prompted his move to Los Angeles.

A pivotal moment in his career was auditioning for the Reebok City Jam series, where he was selected as a lead dancer. This opportunity not only allowed him to travel the world and learn Italian but also opened doors to modeling, choreography, and acting roles in productions like "Murder 101" and "Follow Me."

Discussing his influences, Sheldon cites LL Cool J, T Roy, and Big Daddy Kane, and highlights his involvement with the mop top crew, which significantly impacted the hip-hop dance scene. He shares the importance of relationships and networking, sharing stories about discovering new talent and the value of a strong work ethic.

Concluding with life lessons, He recounts having a show idea stolen, reinforcing the critical need for legal safeguards for creative work. He urges dancers to see themselves as brands, develop a strong online presence, and understand the business side of dance to stand out in a competitive industry.

Show Notes:

(0:03) Sheldon´s Early Career and Background
(7:39) Breakthrough with Reebok City Jam
(9:27) Influences and Mentors
(15:37) Favorite Jobs and Challenges
(18:30) Transitioning from Dance to Acting
(18:44) Life Lessons and Advice
(19:01) Q&A Session with Mentees
(34:27) Motivation and Hustle
(36:27) Transitioning from Dance to Other Fields
(41:11) Professionalism and Industry Insights
(45:22) Final Advice and Encouragement
(47:13) Closing Remarks and Q&A

Biography:

Named after Saints, Sheldon Robins aka Sir Francis Michael is an award-winning producer, writer, and director with over twenty-two years of extensive worldwide entertainment experience.

As a trusted leader in the Upper Lav family, he has dedicated over 25 years to the entertainment industry, excelling in stage, film, and television.

Renowned as a film director, screenwriter, and producer, his works are characterized by uplifting storylines, controversial subject matter, and a celebration of life's triumphs.

He is often hailed as a "writer's storyteller" due to his stylistic use of multiple ethnicities, infusion of music and dance, and profound exploration of diverse themes that bridge opposing cultures.

During his professional dance career, he worked with Michael Jackson on the “History” Album promo commercial, toured with Mariah Carey, danced with Will Smith: Men in Black, Jiggy with It music video & Wild Wild West on the MTV Movie Awards with Dru Hill, appeared on Janet Jackson’s “Someone to call my Lover” music video, choreographed and danced for Genuwine and was a dancer for “Soul Train”

Leading the creative team, he also oversees the television licensing teams in creating content for augmented reality, social media platforms, and emerging digital arenas. His latest creation, "Follow Me," is a docu-series that chronicles the development of teen influencers with a cumulative fan base of over 30 million people.

He was executive producer for Universal Dance Awards at Universal Studios Hollywood, and produced several music videos at Paramount Studios and Universal Studios Hollywood with influencers such as Kylie Cantrall, Dani Cohn, Lexee Smith, Tessa Brooks to name a few.

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38 - Serena McCall: UK Ballet / Contemporary Dancer in Disney’s Snow White and Royal & Scottish Ballet Companies Sep 15, 2024

Episode Summary:

UK-based professional dancer Serena McCall shares valuable insights from her diverse career in ballet and contemporary dance. The episode begins with Serena discussing her early training, including her experiences at the Royal Ballet associate scheme and Elmhurst Ballet School, which paved the way for her professional journey. Serena reflects on her recent role in Disney's live-action Snow White movie, where she worked alongside prominent choreographers like Mandy Moore, Martha Nichols, and Shea Barkley.

Serena emphasizes the importance of building genuine relationships within the dance industry, noting that her success is largely due to her consistent attendance in classes and kindness rather than relying solely on connections. She also discusses her social media presence, which grew organically with the support of her "momager," leading to brand ambassadorships with companies like AcroPad. As a brand ambassador, Serena has traveled and appeared at conventions, further expanding her influence in the dance community.

Looking to the future, Serena aspires to work with contemporary companies and explore opportunities in runway modeling, leveraging her dance skills and height. She also shares tips for dancers aiming to break into the industry, emphasizing the importance of classical and contemporary training, networking, and maintaining a positive mindset in the face of rejection. The episode concludes with Serena reflecting on her career with gratitude and pride, offering advice on staying determined and embracing the unpredictable nature of life in the dance world.

Show Notes:

(0:03) Dance career insights with UK-based professional dancer Serena Nicole.
(2:21) Dance career, Snow White movie experience, and agent vs. self-promotion.
(8:42) Dance career, auditions, and upcoming productions.
(13:58) Importance of relationships in dance career.
(16:15) Social media presence, brand ambassadorship, and acro pad product.
(22:06) Dance career, brand ambassadorship, and future plans.
(26:47) Dance training opportunities in the UK.
(32:48) Balancing classical and contemporary dance training for commercial work.
(35:15) Talent agencies and their roles in the entertainment industry.
(40:11) Dealing with rejection and staying determined in the face of setbacks.
(45:19) Maintaining a positive mindset in dance auditions.

Biography:

Meet Serena, a rising star in the world of ballet and contemporary dance, whose passion and talent have taken her to great heights. Born and raised with a deep love for the art of movement, Serena's journey began at the renowned Elmhurst Ballet School in Birmingham. There, she honed her skills and developed a strong foundation in ballet, setting the stage for her future success.

Recognized for her exceptional abilities, Serena's dedication led her to become an Associate with both the prestigious Royal Ballet and the esteemed Scottish Ballet.

Throughout her time at Rambert, Serena had the privilege of showcasing her skills on some of the world's most esteemed stages. She graced the Linbury Theatre at the Royal Opera House and the iconic Sadler's Wells Lilian Baylis, leaving audiences in awe with her performances. Notably, Serena had the honor of collaborating with renowned choreographers such as Daniel Davidson and Seeta Patel, leaving an indelible mark on the dance community.

As a testament to her versatility, Serena also had the opportunity to perform works by the legendary Matthew Bourne, an experience that allowed her to embrace various dance styles and storytelling techniques.

Beyond her achievements in dance and film, Serena is proud to be an ambassador for ACROPAD, a brand that aligns with her passion for promoting physical well-being and nurturing the next generation of dancers.

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37 - Tricia Miranda: Beyonce Tour dancer, Choreographer on “The X Factor / Influencer with 1.2 Billion Views / Judge on “Dance with Me” Sep 08, 2024

Episode Summary:

Choreographer and influencer Tricia Miranda shares her journey in the dance industry, highlighting the challenges and triumphs that shaped her career. Tricia discusses her early passion for dance, starting ballet at four, and transitioning to hip hop at 19. Despite facing rejection and initial struggles, her move to LA marked the beginning of a dynamic career, including a significant break working with Beyoncé as a tour dancer.

Tricia emphasizes the importance of resilience, recalling her experience auditioning for Beyoncé’s World Tour, where her unique style set her apart. She also discusses her transition from dancer to choreographer, learning from industry legends like Frank Gatson and Fatima Robinson. Tricia highlights the challenges of self-promotion and balancing multiple career paths, such as choreography and makeup artistry.

The episode delves into the importance of foundational training in dance, with Tricia advocating for versatility and understanding the choreographer’s vision. She shares insights into her creative process, focusing on visualization and rehearsal techniques, and stresses the significance of networking and branding in a dance career. The discussion also covers the evolving dance industry, the impact of youth energy on creativity, and the value of maintaining motivation and mental resilience. Throughout, Tricia offers advice on navigating the dance world, balancing career and lifestyle, and surrounding oneself with positive influences to thrive in a competitive environment.

Show Notes:

(0:03) Dance industry insights with a renowned choreographer.
(2:28) Early life, dance training, and move to LA for career opportunities.
(7:37) Auditioning for Beyonce's dance team in 2004.
(12:38) Getting a job with Beyonce.
(17:38) Dance career, including first big break and challenges on tour.
(21:32) The importance of welcoming new dancers and providing support in the industry.
(25:14) Transition from dancer to choreographer, including learning from mentors and struggles with self-promotion.
(31:42) Dance, choreography, and judging on a CBS show in Australia.
(34:17) The importance of training and foundation in the dance industry.
(38:47) The lack of versatility in new generations of dancers.
(44:15) Choreographers' creative processes.
(47:19) Dance career development and networking.
(53:41) Dance and choreography career with celebrity connections.
(57:02) Transitioning from dancer to choreographer, with advice on timing and lifestyle in LA.
(1:02:25) The importance of surrounding oneself with positive influences and maintaining motivation in the dance industry.
(1:11:34) Dance career, inspiration, and mental resilience.
(1:16:49) Dance career development with industry professionals.

Biography:

Tricia Miranda Choreographer/Creator/Influencer Celebrity choreographer Tricia Miranda is one of the biggest names in the creative and choreography world. With nearly a half a billion views on YouTube, she is also the digital preeminent "Queen of Dance" being recognized by major outlets such as Ellen, The New York Times, Glamour Magazine, Buzzfeed, The Huffington Post and more.

Her creative work includes Beyoncé, Ice Spice, BET Awards, Nicki Minaj, Netflix, Jason Derulo, Missy Elliott (Super Bowl), JLo, Gwen Stefani, Iggy Izalea, Busta Rhymes, Backstreet Boys, Snoop Dogg, Jamie Foxx, So You Think You Can Dance, Baywatch (feature film), What to Expect When You're Expecting (feature film), America's Got Talent, X-Factor, American Music Awards, Grammys, MTV VMAs, Billboard Music Awards and campaigns for H&M, Sprint, Walmart, Budlight, Skechers, Sears, and Nair to name a few.

Tricia recently appeared as a judge on CBS' “Come Dance With Me”. Her expertise, training and ability to inspire millions has made her a sought-after choreographer, teacher, mentor and creative force.

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36 - Louise Hradsky: Canadian Cirque du Soleil Dancer to Emmy nominated choreographer Sep 01, 2024

Episode Summary:

Louise Hradsky, an acclaimed choreographer and former performer, delves into her extensive experience in the dance industry. Louise, who has been nominated for MTV Movie and Emmy Awards, discusses her work on major film and TV projects such as Godzilla and The Descendants. She reflects on her early passion for ballet, which was redirected toward contemporary dance after facing rejection from a prestigious ballet school. This redirection led her to a successful career in contemporary dance, providing valuable insights into resilience and adaptation.

The episode also explores the career journey of Menina Fortunato, who shares her struggles and triumphs as a dancer, choreographer, and stunt performer. Menina discusses the challenges she faced, from auditioning for Cirque du Soleil to navigating the complexities of working as a Canadian dancer in Los Angeles, including the visa renewal process. Her persistence in overcoming rejection and seizing opportunities highlights the importance of resilience in the dance industry.

Both Louise and Menina offer advice on building a strong body of work, securing an O-1 visa, and balancing passions with personal and professional life. The episode concludes with reflections on evolving passions and goals, encouraging dancers to embrace change and continuous growth throughout their careers.

Show Notes:

0:03 Dance industry with guest Louise, choreographer and former performer.
3:24 Redirecting passion for ballet after being rejected from a prestigious school.
9:05 Career journey, highlights, and struggles as a dancer and stunt performer.
14:36 Dance career, auditioning, and resilience.
20:20 Canadian dancers in LA, perspectives on local talent and visa renewals.
25:32 Emmy nominations and magazine publication.
30:00 Immigration process and building a strong body of work.
34:09 Choreography process for movies/TV shows, including script analysis, creative vision, budgeting, and rehearsals.
38:36 Balancing passions and priorities as a dancer, choreographer offers advice on trust and focus.
42:17 Navigating the pandemic and strike in the dance industry.
47:08 Creativity, collaboration, and ego management in dance and filmmaking.
53:13 Evolving passions and goals in dance careers.

Biography:

A choreographer known for her strong leadership, years of experience, and collaborative spirit, Louise Hradsky is a creative heavyweight with a refined point of view. Originally from Western Canada, she found her home in the vibrant Vancouver film and television industry in 2006, working steadily across the globe as a performer, choreographer, and movement coach since.

As a performer, Louise landed roles in feature films like: Sucker Punch, Mirror Mirror; and Deadpool 2, and TV shows including: A Series Of Unfortunate Events, Once Upon A Time, and Hellcats. Her balance of style, technical athleticism, and magnetic character performance also led her to Cirque Du Soleil, where Louise played the revered role of the Green Lizard in Cirque’s longest-running resident show in Las Vegas, Mystére.

Early in her career, Louise began working creatively and collaboratively for pioneering dance icons such as Kenny Ortega, Jamal Sims, and Michelle Johnston. They shared their wisdom and recognized how Louise’s contribution enhanced their work, mentoring her into the role of a leading choreographer.

In her years as a film and television choreographer, Louise has been nominated for an Emmy Award, MTV Movie and TV Award, and won a Leo Award for outstanding choreography. Her recent credits include Grease: Rise Of The Pink Ladies, Godzilla & The Titans, Yellowjackets, Pachinko (Opening Credits), The Good Doctor, To All The Boys (trilogy), A Million Little Things, The Midnight Club, and The Haunting Of Bly Manor, among others.

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35 - Liz Ramos: Creating a Bi-Coastal Dance Career in LA & NYC (J Lo, Usher, Beyonce, Oscars, Broadway) Aug 25, 2024

Episode Summary:

Liz Ramos, a distinguished professional dancer and choreographer, shares her inspiring journey and invaluable industry insights. From her early days in McAllen, Texas, to making significant marks in Los Angeles and New York City, Liz’s story is a testament to the power of persistence and adaptability in the dance world.

Host Menina Fortunato introduces Liz, highlighting her impressive collaborations with icons like Earth Wind & Fire, Usher, Jennifer Lopez, and Will Smith. Liz's narrative begins with a pivotal moment at a dance convention in New York City, where she was discovered and subsequently received a full scholarship to the Joffrey Ballet. This opportunity marked the beginning of her professional ascent, eventually leading her to vibrant dance scenes in LA and NY.

Liz shares the challenges and triumphs of navigating the competitive environments of Broadway and the broader entertainment industry, emphasizing the importance of early preparation, professionalism, and versatility in auditions. She discusses her experiences with notable choreographers, including Otis Salid at the Oscars, and how these interactions shaped her career and approach to the art.

Show Notes:

(0:03) Creating a professional dance career with industry insights.
(1:19) Liz´s extensive dance career spanning 25 years.
(4:26) Dance career growth in Texas and New York City.
(9:33) Dance career, including musical theater and film projects.
(14:16) Broadway show, favorite gigs, and industry connections.
(20:18) Importance of early preparation and professionalism in auditions.
(25:26) Importance of versatility in dance and audition process.
(35:01) Moving to big cities, choreographing for TV shows, and overcoming fears.
(40:46) What choreographers look for in dancers for Broadway shows and commercials.
(46:20) Dance conventions, teaching, and career advice.

Biography:

Liz Ramos made her mark in all avenues of the entertainment world in television, film, tours and Broadway. As a performer, she’s had the delightful pleasure of working with some of the top artists of today such as Will Smith, Flo Rida, Kelly Rowland, The Jonas Brothers, Tinie Tempah, Enrique Iglesias, Jenifer Lopez, P.Diddy, Paula Abdul, Faith Hill, Toni Braxton, Beyonce’, and many others.

Her film credits include: “Enchanted”, “Rango”, “Mr & Mrs. Smith”, ”Idlewild”, ”Rent”, ”Austin Powers- Goldmember”, “El Cantante”, “Dirty Dancing-2”.

Tv credits: 69th Academy Awards, Csi: Miami, Suddenly Susan, Latin Grammys, Soul Train Awards, American Music Awards, MTV Awards, Oprah, and Rosie O’donnel.

Tours: Gloria Estefan Re-wrapped, Earth Wind and Fire, Will Smith promo, Kevon Edmonds and Crystal Sierra.

Theater credits include: On Your Feet (Broadway),The Addams Family (Broadway- dance capt.), In the Heights(workshop), The Wiz (La Jolla Playhouse), Mambo Kings (San Francisco), Black & Blue (European tour).

Liz’s choreography credits span all medium. Her work can be seen on the Disney hit show “Jessie”. Other choreography credits include: Ride Along 2 (film) 2017 Macys Day Parade (celebrity opener)“Eve”(nbc), Earth, Wind & Fire tours, Latin Grammys w/Usher & Romeo Santos, Miss Angola Pageant, The Gypsy Kings (pageant guest artists), Knick City Dancers(nyc), , “Heartbreaker” video featuring WILL I AM, “Tap Girls” Revue -Harrah’s Casino, “In L.A,” Larisa Dolina m/v, “Hair” (Geva Theater) Opal Ann meets the Fabulous Kit Katt (play) , Two Lost Worlds (play),Broadway bound musical Nutty Professor (associate), Grease - Papermill Playhouse (associate),2009 Miss Universe (associate), Miss USA 2011/12/13(associate),and “Viva Hollywood”(associate).

Liz has worked one on one as a movement coach to some of the top celebrities in our industry today such as: Michael Bolton, Justin Hartley, Julianne Moore, Whoopi, Jennifer Lawernce, Benjamin Pratt, Halle Berry, Thalia, Gaten Matarazzo, and many others.

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34 - Teya Wild: Creating a dance career in both Canada & the US (Disney’s Zombies, SYTYCD Canada, Taylor Swift, Descendants) Aug 18, 2024

Episode Summary: Teya Wild, a dynamic Canadian-born dancer and choreographer now based in Los Angeles, shares an engaging overview of her expansive career. From her early days at Dance Co. in Vancouver to her current successes in LA and abroad, Teya's journey is marked by her adaptability and commitment to her craft.

Menida Fortunato introduces Teya, highlighting her impressive resume which includes roles in TV shows like "So You Think You Can Dance Canada" and Disney's "Zombies." Teya's dance journey, fueled by her mother's support and various styles training, began at the tender age of 8 and flourished through her high school years into a professional career. She navigated the move to LA after rigorous planning and savings, obtaining a visa with the help of her mentor, Nina.

Teya discusses the pivotal moments and the challenges of breaking into the competitive LA dance scene, including the daunting audition rooms filled with hopeful dancers. Her persistence and networking led to significant opportunities, such as working with Taylor Swift and choreographing a music video, experiences that underline the importance of versatility and professionalism in the dance industry.

Show Notes:

(0:03) Teya´s dance career, from childhood to professional work in LA and abroad.
(8:33) Moving to LA, finding an agent, and navigating auditions.
(13:20) Dance career, experience, and versatility.
(18:19) Working with Taylor Swift
(23:40) Zombie movie production with a focus on the choreographer's experience.
(29:25) Pursuing dance career goals, including cruise ship auditions and choreography.
(35:36) Body types and height requirements for cruise ship performers.
(39:08) Auditioning for movie sets as a dancer, with advice on age, appearance, and personality.
(43:16) Auditioning and booking jobs in the entertainment industry.
(49:41) Acting and dancing career paths for a 13-year-old girl.
(57:01) Self-tape auditions, dance training, and mentorship.

Biography:

Teya Wild is a Canadian born dancer, choreographer and creative who now resides in Los Angeles, California. She began working professionally as a child, so she is no stranger to the limelight. As a kid, Teya began her career as an actor, and appeared in the movies Head Over Heels and A Storm In Summer; in TV shows Sesame Street and The Outer Limits; and in commercials for Radio Disney, Kohl’s, AmSouth, Kodak and Crystal Light. Despite the potential with her acting career, there was no denying Teya’s passion for dance.

Teya’s training and outgoing personality led her to one of Canadian TV’s most notable stages when she was chosen as a contestant and finalist for Season 4 of So You Think You Can Dance.

For many years, Teya has been building strong credits in both the Canadian and American dance community. TV credits include The Voice and Zoey’s Extraordinary Playlist (NBC), Riverdale and DC’S Legends Of Tomorrow (CW), The Twilight Zone (Paramount+), as well as The American Music Awards, The Grammy Awards, and The BET Awards. Film credits include Step Up 5, Christmas Chronicles 2, Nickelodeon’s Spectacular!, Center Stage 2: Turn It Up, as well as numerous films for Disney: Sneakerella, Descendants 2 & 3, Freaky Friday, and Zapped. Teya has also toured with US recording artist Hailee Steinfeld, and danced alongside Taylor Swift. Over the years, Teya has also been fortunate enough to work closely with world renowned choreographers Kenny Ortega, Jamal Sims, Luther Brown, Christopher Scott, Aakomon Jones, Draico Johnson, Nappytabs, Fatima Robinson, Tony Testa, and Keone & Mari.

Teya has most recently moved into the role of choreographer where she continues to thrive as a leader and creator. Recent credits include Disney’s Zombies 3 & 4 (Associate Choreographer), The Emmy Awards (Assistant Choreographer) and movement coaching for actor/singer Laura Morano.

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33 - Christian Vincent: Dancer (Madonna, Prince), Emmy nominated Choreographer, Actor & Masters Degree in Dance Aug 11, 2024

Episode Summary:

Christian Vincent, an Emmy-nominated choreographer and dancer with extensive experience in the entertainment industry, shares his professional journey. From his early beginnings in Ontario, Canada, to working with iconic artists like Madonna and Prince.

Christian delves into the early influences that shaped his career, such as his pivotal encounter at Joe Tremaine's dance convention and the motivational support from choreographer Jackie Slate. His career in Los Angeles is marked by a dynamic range of roles from dancing to acting in films and TV shows like Hallmark Christmas movies. Christian discusses the transition from dance to choreography and directing, highlighting his work in various cities beyond LA, like Atlanta and Nashville.

Furthermore, Christian offers sage advice for young dancers on navigating the transition from academic settings to professional stages, stressing the importance of continuous learning, networking, and versatility in dance styles. His approach underscores the need for dancers to be well-rounded and proactive in seeking opportunities.

Show Notes:

(0:03) Christian´s career in dance, including his early beginnings in Ontario, Canada, and his journey to becoming an Emmy-nominee
(5:16) Dance career path, from early interest to college and professional training.
(9:25) The importance of education in the dance industry.
(13:53) Race and identity in the dance industry.
(19:10) Dance and acting career progression in Los Angeles.
(23:21) Career options for dancers beyond LA.
(28:12) Career paths in the entertainment industry, choreography, directing, and producing.
(32:58) Transitioning from dance competitions to professional dance industry
(37:09) Dance training programs and their benefits for young dancers.
(41:17) Transitioning from dancer to choreographer.
(45:36) Dance career paths, visa requirements, and job opportunities in the US and Canada.
(50:25) Dance career paths and recording self-tapes.
(55:20) Transitioning from college to professional life in the performing arts.

Biography:

As a dancer, Christian danced and/or toured with artists such as Madonna (dance captain, Drowned World tour), Prince, Britney Spears, Gloria Estefan, Shakira, Ricky Martin, Stevie Wonder, Chayanne, Mandy Moore, Geri Halliwell, Macy Gray, Brian Setzer Orchestra, and Ashanti.

He was also featured in various film projects such as She’s All That, Starsky and Hutch, Rent, The Wedding Planner, Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story, Flintstones: Viva Rock Vegas, Ms. Congeniality 2, and GI Joe 2: Retaliation.

In addition, his extensive television appearances include Buffy, Disney’s Annie, Arrested Development, Baywatch, Mad TV, The George Lopez Show, Cold Case, and Dancing with the Stars.

Christian was recently nominated for the 74th Emmy awards in the category of outstanding choreography for scripted programming for his work on The Porter series. Christian’s choreographic expertise can also be seen in Netflix’s series Self Made: Inspired by the Life of Madam C. J. Walker, starring Oscar winner Octavia Spencer, the Lifetime biopic about rap super group Salt-N-Pepa, and The Christmas Dance.

Christian’s other choreographic works include Noah’s Arc: Jumping The Broom, and the Global TV series Canada Sings.

Christian appeared in the Off-Broadway production of Radiant Baby, directed by George C. Wolfe. He has made appearances on Smallville, Center Stage 2, Fringe, Fallen, Sins of the Mother, Continuum, and Hidden America with Jonah Ray.

He´s currently a faculty member with LA Dance Magic Dance Convention and Triple Threat Dance Convention, and he was also a professor at the highly esteemed USC Glorya Kaufman School of Dance.

Christian is an active and proud member of the Academy of Television Arts & Sciences (ATAS).

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https://www.facebook.com/christian.vincent

Webpage

https://www.christianvincentonline.com/

32 - Melena Rounis: "Dancing with Cirque du Soleil: MJ Immortal Tour & Beatles Love" Aug 04, 2024

Episode Summary:

Melena Rounis provides a comprehensive overview of her journey in the dance industry, from overcoming early challenges to achieving notable success on renowned stages like Cirque du Soleil. Starting her dance career later than most and facing initial setbacks including familial pressure to pursue a conventional university degree, Melena’s resilience shines through as she navigates the complexities of the US immigration system to follow her passion.

Melena shares candid insights into the audition process for high-profile gigs, particularly her experience with Cirque du Soleil, where she utilized her unique contortion skills to stand out, despite not being formally trained in that area. Her career milestones include not only performing but also choreographing for major productions, where she emphasizes the significance of collaboration, kindness, and professional connections.

Further discussion covers Melena’s choreographic work, including her contributions to TV shows and her proactive approach to auditions for platforms like America's Got Talent. She provides strategic advice for dancers looking to make their mark in places like Los Angeles, emphasizing perseverance, resilience, and the necessity of being versatile and well-rounded in their craft.

Show Notes:

(0:00) Dance industry insights with a special guest.
(2:06) Dance career struggles and immigration challenges.
(7:32) Dance auditions and highlights of career, including Beatles love show and Cirque du Soleil.
(13:18) Career highlights and choreography experiences with a focus on collaboration and kindness.
(15:59) The importance of kindness and connections in the dance industry.
(20:33) Choreographing for TV shows and auditioning for America's Got Talent.
(24:37) Choreography and auditioning for Cirque du Soleil.
(30:42) Adapting to the fast-paced dance industry in LA.
(35:16) Dance industry, perseverance, and career paths.
(42:32) Believing in oneself and overcoming negative voices in the dance industry.

Biography:

Melena Rounis is a versatile choreographer, associate director, and performer who has been sharing her passion and knowledge of all things dance over the course of her 20+ year career. She has worked extensively in film, television, live performances and shows, striving to push the creative boundaries and developing emotionally driven and often high-tech content.

Melena was nominated for a 2022 Leo Award for her largest body of work as a Choreographer on Netflix’s 'A Week Away' the Musical. Other choreographic endeavors include Associate Directing and Choreographing two tours for Sesame Street Live! (‘Let’s Party' and ‘Make Your Magic’), as well as cutting edge research and development projects for Walt Disney Imagineering. She has put her touch on a plethora of film and television shows including the opening title sequence for HBO Max’s ‘Peacemaker’, and for other notable brands such as Dancing with The Stars, Comedy Central, Honda, Kmart, Christian Louboutin, AIDS Health Foundation and Knott's Berry Farm Amusement Park.

As a performer, some of her live and reality tv show credits include Cirque du Soleil (Michael Jackson Immortal World Tour and in Las Vegas at The Beatles LOVE), America’s Got Talent, American Idol, Next Top Model, Latin American Music Awards, as well as MusiCares with Sir Paul McCartney, and various other artists like Pitbull, Maluma, French Montana & Daddy Yankee to name a few.

She has taught and adjudicated extensively throughout Canada, the United States, Australia and Mexico, doing everything from large scale conventions to summer intensives, guest master classes, choreography and private sessions. Her expansive teaching vocabulary includes Street Jazz/Jazz Funk, Hip Hop, Locking, House, Jazz, Musical Theater, Heels, Lyrical and Pilates.

Connect on Social Media:

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https://www.facebook.com/melenadance/

Webpage

http://www.melenarounis.com/

31 - Angela Stiskin: Mastering dance education with Joffrey Ballet School Jul 28, 2024

Episode Summary:

Angelica Stiskin, a distinguished artistic director and choreographer, offers a deep dive into her multifaceted dance career and her educational initiatives at the Joffrey Ballet School. From her early beginnings in New Jersey to becoming a global force in dance, Angelica shares the trajectory of her career, including her mentorship under Billy Larson and her innovative work in choreographing for prestigious events like New York Fashion Week.

As the artistic director of the Joffrey Ballet School, Angelica has played a pivotal role in broadening the curriculum to include both concert and commercial dance, emphasizing the importance of a diverse education in the arts.

Angelica discusses the challenges and rewards of her career, particularly in adapting to unexpected opportunities and the evolving landscape of dance genres. She stresses the importance of perseverance, believing in oneself, and the pursuit of passion, which she believes are key to thriving in the competitive dance industry.

The podcast also touches on the balance between professional and personal life, a theme that resonates deeply with Angelica as she navigates her roles as an educator, choreographer, and director. Her insights into setting boundaries and prioritizing self-care are valuable for anyone looking to sustain a long-term career in dance.

Show Notes:

(0:03) Dance industry insights with an artistic director.
(2:57) Early years of dancer Angelica Siskin, including training, mentors, and education.
(6:36) Artistic director role at Joffrey Ballet School.
(13:35) Balancing concert and commercial dance education.
(19:47) Diversifying dance training and career paths.
(22:31) The importance of believing in oneself and pursuing one's passions.
(26:54) Work-life balance and prioritizing personal life.
(31:11) Balancing personal and professional life.
(36:17) Higher education, master's degrees, and relevancy in dance industry.
(41:01) Revolutionizing the education system for dancers.
(51:29) The importance of reputation and relationships in the dance industry.

Biography:

Angelica Stiskin is internationally recognized for her versatility as a choreographer, director, performer, and dance educator. She is honored to lead the next generation of artists as the Artistic Director of Joffrey Ballet School’s Jazz & Contemporary Trainee Program and Flagship Jazz & Contemporary summer intensive, SPECTRUM.

She began her trajectory at Joffrey Ballet School as choreographer and educator in 2008, appointed Artistic Director in 2017, and has directed the worldwide Audition Tour since 2021.

She is seen touring the country on faculty for Heat Convention & Competition’s National Tour, as well continuing her work as choreographer, director, and creative consultant designing high-level concepts for fashion, editorial, and live entertainment. Most recently, Bloomberg Philanthropies commissioned Angelica to choreograph by request of notable creative, Beth Crandall, for the grand opening of PAC/NYC, Perelman Performing Arts Center (next to the Freedom Tower).

This major press event of the “ribbon connecting” ceremony highlighted the students and alumni of the Joffrey Ballet School. Angelica choreographed and consulted (using Joffrey Ballet School Trainees), the opening spectacle for the runway show of Brazilian brand, PatBO (featured on Beyoncé), at New York Fashion Week in February 2024.

She continues to experiment with screen dance collaborating with NYC-based filmmakers to design dance for film and provide movement direction for the worlds of dance along with a vast array of artistic mediums. She is now pursuing her Master’s in Education Leadership at Harvard University, a part-time program specifically designed for professionals in education carrying full-time careers.

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https://www.facebook.com/AngelicaStiskin

30 - Tiana Gandelman: "Pivoting from Dancing with Stars to Producing Stars" Jul 21, 2024

Episode Summary:

Tiana Gandelman shares a riveting journey through her dance career, from humble beginnings to notable successes alongside iconic pop stars. The episode dives into Tiana's experiences and insights on navigating the evolving landscape of the dance industry.

Tiana's career took off when she moved to Los Angeles after being selected for Britney Spears, "I'm a Slave 4 U" music video and VMAs, which solidified her decision to pursue dance professionally. Her anecdotes about working closely with celebrities like Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera provide a candid look at the highs and lows of working with top-tier artists. She reflects on the challenges of big auditions and the cutthroat nature of the industry, where even the best dancers can face rejection.

Transitioning from dancing to producing, Tiana discusses the skills and experiences that facilitated her move into choreography and eventually into producing shows such as America's Got Talent and the Grammys. She emphasizes the importance of clear communication and versatility, attributing her success in these roles to her extensive background in performance and her ability to adapt to the fast-paced environment of television production.

Tiana and Menina share practical advice for dancers looking to stand out in auditions, highlighting the importance of professional headshots, an effective social media presence, and the ability to market oneself creatively.

Show Notes:

(0:00) Dance career beginnings, risks, and successes with iconic pop stars.
(6:11) Working with Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera in the early 2000s.
(10:52) Career transition from dancer to producer.
(16:53) Producing and choreography experience on America's Got Talent.
(18:18) Producing TV shows and the Grammys, challenges and excitement of bringing music and dance together.
(23:27) Creative director and producer roles in a performance, including duties and responsibilities.
(28:05) Roles and responsibilities in TV production
(30:41) Dance and entertainment industry career paths and experiences.
(35:32) Finding success as a backup dancer, with tips on social media presence and standing out.
(40:32) Challenges faced by dancers, mental preparation and staying relevant after tours.
(46:50) Dance auditions, opportunities, and tips.
(53:40) Dance techniques and college aspirations.
(57:18) Finding audition opportunities for young dancers.
(1:03:58) Dance industry evolution, influencer vs. industry career path.
(1:09:37) Age for touring and performing in the entertainment industry.

Biography:

Tiana started her career as a backup dancer for renowned pop stars like Christina Aguilera and Britney Spears, accompanying them on world tours like "Stripped," "Back To Basics," and "Circus." She was also featured in music videos for hits such as “I'm A Slave 4 U,” “Dirrty,” “Ain't No Other Man,” and “Can't Hold Us Down.”

After supporting various pop icons for ten years, she shifted gears to choreographing shows like “Dance Your A** Off” and “High School Musical: Get In The Picture,” where her creativity blossomed. This paved the way for her to venture into a career in creative direction for stage performances on primetime television.

Tiana has been a Producer for “The Grammy Awards,” “Grammy Salute to 50 Years of Hip Hop,” “Dick Van Dyke: 98 Years of Magic,” “America’s Got Talent,” “The X Factor” (Global), “The Voice,” Josh Groban, Fifth Harmony, Meghan Trainor, JoJo, Fantasia, Becky G Coachella, “The Masked Dancer,” and multiple seasons of the hit show “The Masked Singer.”

Throughout her career, Tiana has honed her craft across various mediums, from film and television, to digital media and immersive experiences. Her versatile skill set and boundless imagination have earned her recognition for delivering compelling narratives that resonate with audiences worldwide.

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Webpage

https://tianatoday.com/

29 - Renée Marino: "From Broadway Performer to Communication Queen" Jul 14, 2024

Episode Summary:

Renée Marino provides an engaging and insightful discussion about her journey in the entertainment industry, touching on themes of communication, perseverance, and entrepreneurship. Renee began dancing at the age of 3 and continued to nurture her passion for the arts through college, eventually landing her first professional role as a lead singer and dancer in a casino show. Despite facing thousands of rejections, Renee's unwavering commitment to her craft led her to significant roles, including her Broadway debut in "West Side Story" and a pivotal role in Clint Eastwood's film adaptation of "Jersey Boys."

Further exploring her multifaceted career, Renée talks about her transition from stage performances to becoming a best-selling author and communication expert. She underscores the significance of authentic interaction in building relationships and advancing in any professional field.

Renée's approach to auditions and industry connections highlights the necessity of authenticity and emotional intelligence, advocating for a supportive rather than competitive mindset among peers. She shares practical tips on networking, the strategic use of social media, and the importance of personal branding in establishing a successful career in dance and beyond.

This podcast not only charts Renée Marino's impressive journey through dance, film, and Broadway but also offers valuable lessons on resilience, personal branding, and the art of communication, providing listeners with a comprehensive toolkit for personal and professional growth in the competitive world of entertainment.

Show Notes:

(0:03) Dance industry insights and communication skills.
(2:07) Pursuing a career in the entertainment industry despite rejection and focusing on controllable factors.
(7:26) Perseverance and determination in the entertainment industry.
(13:05) Auditioning for a movie role after performing on Broadway.
(16:30) Embracing inner confidence and quieting negative self-talk.
(22:40) Acting career, auditioning, and connecting with others in the industry.
(28:01) Communication, writing, and entrepreneurship.
(30:43) Connecting with others through authentic communication and self-awareness.
(36:22) Connecting with others through storytelling, active listening, and speaking up.
(42:40) Dance training, self-care, and career development.
(46:40) Maintaining individuality in a competitive industry through self-awareness and authenticity.
(52:00) Embracing imperfections, staying true to oneself, and pursuing passions.
(56:29) The importance of perseverance and hard work in achieving success in the entertainment industry.

Biography:

Renée Marino grew up as a singer, dancer, actress who became a Broadway Star and is now an International Keynote Speaker, Connection Expert, and Best-selling Author who can be seen as Frankie Valli’s wife, Mary Delgado, in the movie "Jersey Boys," directed by Clint Eastwood.

She helps business owners and entrepreneurs communicate confidently and effectively through simple and easy tools in person and online. Her best-selling book, Becoming a Master Communicator, endorsed by Dean Graziosi, Russell Brunson, Bryan Adams, Chazz Palminteri, Jenna Kutcher, Dhomonique Murphy, and many more, is a powerful guide for those struggling to have clear and honest communication in a world driven by digital technology.

She has graced the Broadway stage in “West Side Story”, “Pretty Woman the Musical”, “Jersey Boys”, “Chaplin” and “Wonderland”, and has been featured in People.com's "Ones to Watch," Variety, and The Huffington Post. Renée was the co-host of Tony Robbins and Dean Graziosi's "World Summit" and the opening speaker for the ASPIRE Tour alongside Mark Cuban, David Goggins, Marcus Lemonis, and Codie Sanchez.

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https://www.facebook.com/IamReneeMarino

Webpage

https://www.reneemarino.com/

28 - Susan Salgado: “Casting Director: Dance Moms, Super Bowl, Beyonce, Lady Gaga” Jul 07, 2024

Episode Summary:

Susan Salgado, a seasoned casting director and producer, offers a wealth of knowledge on navigating the dance industry from her initial steps in the Philippines to her influential role in Los Angeles. Susan's journey, marked by a transition from dancer to industry insider, highlights her 10-year career in casting for reality TV shows and her efforts to bridge opportunities for local dancers through intensives in Vegas.

Susan also underscores the significance of slating skills for commercial auditions, where personality and on-camera presence can make or break opportunities. The discussion expands into the realm of direct bookings, a growing trend where dancers are hired directly by choreographers or directors, bypassing traditional auditions.

The episode also covers the logistical and strategic aspects of building a dance career in competitive markets like Las Vegas and Los Angeles, providing insights into the visa process for foreign dancers aiming to work in the U.S. Susan shares her personal experiences and lessons from touring with artists and participating in high-profile gigs like Cirque du Soleil.

Show Notes:

(0:03) Dance industry insights with casting director and producer.
(2:17) Dance background, casting career, and intensive for local dancers.
(8:03) Auditioning for dance projects, including preparation and dress code.
(14:32) Importance of preparation and communication in auditions.
(16:32) Auditioning for commercials and TV/film
(22:03) The importance of networking and social media presence for dancers, regardless of agent representation.
(26:27) Casting for VMA performance, social media research, and client expectations.
(28:38) The importance of social media for dancers, including highlighting dance reels and keeping personal and professional accounts separate.
(33:59) Touring and casting with industry professionals.
(39:57) Dance Instagram tips and challenges for dancers in the US market.
(45:38) Immigration paths for foreign dancers to work in the US
(50:20) Training and networking for young dancers.

Biography:

Susan Salgado, a seasoned Casting Director and Producer, boasts an illustrious career spanning over three decades in the entertainment industry. Her impressive network spans across the industry's biggest names, including ABC, CBS, FOX, NBC, CW, MTV, BET, VH1, TLC, HGTV, DIY, Nickelodeon, Disney, Quibi, OWN, Animal Planet, Discovery, Bravo, GSN, TVOne, Lifetime, and many others.

From live shows to reality television to commercials, Susan has excelled in every facet of her craft. Her impressive portfolio includes credits such as recruiting musicians and vocalists for Beyonce's iconic Formation Tour and Coachella performances, Lady Gaga's electrifying "Monster Ball" Tour, and the international sensation, Chippendales.

In the realm of television, Susan's accomplishments are nothing short of extraordinary. She has left her mark on numerous hit shows, including "The Four" on Fox, "Boy Band" on ABC, Beyonce's mesmerizing halftime performance at Super Bowl 50 and the Grammy Awards, the sensational "Hairspray Live!", and "The Next: Fame is At Your Doorstep" on CW.

Susan's groundbreaking work also extends to reality TV, where she played a pivotal role in the success of the hit show "Married At First Sight" in its inaugural season, as well as casting for "Deal Or No Deal Models," "The Apprentice" (season 4), four seasons of "Making The Band," "Abby's Ultimate Dance Competition," "Dance Moms," "Born to Dance," and an extensive list of other notable productions.

Susan's talents extend into the world of commercials, where her discerning eye has helped select talent for brands like Diesel, Shoe Carnival, SBC Global, Motorola, Coors Light, Nature's Care, Budweiser, and Reddi Whip, among others.

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27 - Jayme Rae Dailey: “SYTYCD Canada to Dancing with J Lo, Chris Brown, Jason Derulo & Super Bowl” Jun 30, 2024

Episode summary:

Jayme Rae Dailey provides a captivating look into her life and career trajectory from Montreal to Los Angeles, where she established herself as a top commercial dancer. Having worked with A-list celebrities like Chris Brown, Demi Lovato, and Jennifer Lopez, Jayme shares her transformative experiences in the dance world, including her audition for "You Think You Can Dance Canada," which opened doors and set her on a professional path.

Jayme credits her supportive family for encouraging her to explore various sports and dance styles, which helped her find her true passion in dance. This episode delves into the importance of marketing for performers, highlighting the necessity of having a strong online presence, such as a website and demo reel, especially in competitive markets like Los Angeles.

Throughout the interview, Jayme discusses key career milestones, such as performing at the Super Bowl and opening for Chris Brown. She reflects on the life lessons learned along the way, emphasizing the need for balance between career and personal life, and the importance of embracing downtime to pursue personal growth and new interests.

Moreover, Jayme's journey of learning new skills, like salsa dancing and even Spanish to broaden her cultural and professional horizons, showcases her commitment to continuous improvement and adaptation in the dynamic dance industry.

Show Notes:

(0:03) Early life, background, and career journey of a professional dancer from Montreal to LA.
(7:16) Marketing strategies for a performer, including the importance of having a website and demo reel.
(9:14) Moving to LA, pursuing dance career, and the importance of focus and obsession.
(13:19) Career milestones and lessons learned.
(17:55) Finding balance in life and career as a performer.
(22:42) The importance of passion, energy, and authenticity in the entertainment industry.
(26:50) Embracing one's unique talents and skills
(31:30) Talent, skills, and learning in dance industry.
(34:17) Embracing one's limitations and being a lifelong learner in dance.
(39:04) How to handle auditions with confidence and positivity.
(43:15) Favorite movie job with dancers for 6 months.
(45:35) Mentors and inspirations in dance careers.
(49:59) How to stay open-minded in the dance industry.
(55:27) Showcasing talent and building a support system for dancers.

Biography:

Jayme Rae Dailey is an international dancer, choreographer, performer, twin duo. In 2012, she placed 3 rd on "So You Think You Can Dance Canada" and moved to Los Angeles.Her career took off, not only as a solo artist, but also as a twin duo with her sister Jenny Dailey.

She has danced in world tours with Chris Brown, Demi Lovato and Jason Derulo and has performed in two SuperBowls with Katy Perry (2015) and Mary J. Blige (2022).

She appeared in the role of "Hot Twin" in the dance movie "Step Up 5 All In" and she sings, dances and acts throughout the new Christmas classic "Spirited" starring Ryan Reynolds and Will Ferrell.

She has shared the stage with Jennifer Lopez, Taylor Swift, Pharrell, Dua Lipa, Gwen Stefani, Rosalia, Nicki Minaj and she was a choreographer/ pro dancer on the latin version of "Dancing with the Stars" called "Mira Quien Baila" for the last 4 years.

Television credits include: The Billboard Music Awards, American Music Awards, Latin Grammys, SOUL TRAIN awards, Latin AMA’s, BET Awards, The Voice, America’s Got Talent, Jimmy Fallon, The late late show with James Corden. Her commercial credits include Target, McDonalds, Fabletics and L' Oreal Paris-

She is an outgoing, vibrant and passionate woman with a dedicated and caring work ethic. She loves to teach, judge competitions and participate in any project that will help dancers grow and reach their ultimate goals in a positive environment.

Connect on Social Media:

https://www.instagram.com/jayme_rae/

https://www.facebook.com/jayme.dailey.7

26 - CTG Agent: Meisha Goetz “Getting Signed by a Dance Agent” Jun 23, 2024

Episode Summary:

Meisha Goetz, a seasoned professional and current director of the dance department at Clear Talent Group, shares her comprehensive journey and insights into the dance industry. Born and raised in Los Angeles, Meisha started dancing at the age of three and eventually transitioned from a performer to a significant player on the business side of dance.

Throughout the episode, Meisha discusses the evolution of her career, from early training to becoming an agent at Clear Talent Group after completing her studies in performing arts at Cal State University Channel Island. Her shift from performing to focusing on the business aspects of dance has led her to a fulfilling career managing and representing dancers.

Key topics covered include the pathways into the dance industry such as networking, open calls, and online submissions. Meisha elaborates on the audition processes at her agency, which are selective and invitation-based, underscoring the importance of versatility and the right presentation in materials submitted by dancers. Common pitfalls in these submissions include outdated photos, missing information, and poor self-taping practices.

The conversation also touches on significant industry changes prompted by the pandemic, such as the move towards online auditions and the evolving needs of virtual presentation skills. Meisha emphasizes the ongoing relevance of in-person auditions despite these changes.

Marketing oneself effectively as a dancer is another focus area, with Meisha advising on the necessity of a strong online presence and professional headshots to increase visibility and booking potential. She shares practical tips on creating a compelling casting profile that captures personality and versatility, which are crucial for standing out in a competitive market.

Overall, this episode provides valuable advice and real-world insights for dancers at any stage of their career, emphasizing adaptability, professionalism, and the importance of personal branding in achieving success in the ever-evolving dance industry.

Show Notes:

(0:03) Becoming an agent in the dance industry with a focus on personal story and professional experience.
(5:08) Entry points into the dance industry, including networking, online submissions, and open calls.
(9:36) Dance agency audition process and versatility as key to marketability.
(14:37) Changes in the dance industry due to COVID-19, including shift to online auditions and reduced need for in-person auditions.
(20:37) Marketing and promoting oneself as a dancer to increase visibility and bookings.
(25:30) Dance industry post-strike, tips for young dancers.
(30:12) Headshots, resumes, and what makes a dancer stand out.
(34:41) Dance exams, research during slow periods, and inspiration.
(38:51) Auditioning for dance agencies, resubmitting materials, and individuality in the industry.
(44:28) Dance industry, auditions, and special skills for success.
(53:26) Career advice for dancers with industry.

Biography:

Born and raised in Los Angeles, Meisha Goetz found passion in the industry at a young age. At the age of three her parents signed her up for dance classes at the local studio to where her passion for dance was to begin. After attending numerous dance competitions and conventions, key relationships were established with some of the best dancers and choreographers in the country.

Meisha graduated from Cal State University Channel Islands with a Bachelors in Performing Arts and a Minor Certification in Communication. Coupling her education with her experience as a dancer makes working at Clear Talent Group in the Dance Department the perfect match. Meisha’s dedication to her clients and nurturing personality makes her a great mentor for young talent.

Connect on Social Media:

https://www.instagram.com/cleartalentgroup

https://www.instagram.com/meishh

Webpage

http://www.cleartalentgroup.com/

25 - Lukas McFarlane: "From Calgary to London: Creating a Dance Career in the UK". Jun 16, 2024

Episode Summary:

Lucas McFarlane, a seasoned dance professional, shares his journey from Calgary to becoming a prominent figure in London's dance scene. Lucas discusses his early training in Calgary, his move to London at 18 without connections, and his rapid ascent, including winning a “Got to Dance” - a TV show that propelled him to fame in the UK.

The conversation highlights the unique opportunities and challenges within the London dance market, contrasting it with other major cities like Los Angeles. He also touches on the complexities of navigating agency relationships in London, where multiple agency representations are permitted, unlike in the US.

Additionally, Lucas and Menina discuss the critical role of work ethic, the benefits of shadowing industry professionals, and the necessity for dancers to vocalize their aspirations. They address practical aspects such as obtaining work visas.

The episode is rich with advice for young dancers, emphasizing the need to embrace individuality and the importance of patience and long-term thinking in building a sustainable career. This installment of the Business of Dance podcast offers valuable insights for anyone looking to navigate the complexities of a dance career, particularly in the vibrant and competitive London dance industry.

Show Notes:

(0:03) Dance career development with industry expert.
(2:16) Lucas´s unconventional dance career path from Calgary to London, UK.
(9:27) Benefits of living and working as a dancer in London, insights on the industry, competition, and job opportunities.
(15:33) The value of assisting and shadowing in the entertainment industry.
(17:50) Dance industry standards and highlights of speaker's career.
(22:29) Patience and longevity in the entertainment industry.
(26:47) Enjoying the dance journey, not just the destination.
(29:03) Dance careers, advice from industry professionals.
(34:28) Dance careers, challenges, and opportunities.
(39:59) Qualities desired in dancers for TV performances
(43:08) Challenges faced by male dancers in an industry dominated by females.
(48:42) Overcoming dance injuries and finding opportunities for teens in London.
(53:38) Dance career advice from industry professionals.

Biography:

Lukas McFarlane is a Creative/Choreographer from Canada. His career was skyrocketed when he was crowned the UK and Ireland’s best dance act, winning Sky1’s hit TV show, ‘Got to Dance’ at just 19 years old.

Even prior to this he had worked with such artists such as Carly Rae Jepson, Taylor Swift and Celine Dion early on in his career. Lukas’s passion however, always lied in creation and he is now a well-known and widely respected Creative/Choreographer.

He works consistently in tv and film on projects like 'The X Factor', ITV’s 'The Voice’ and Netflix’s new show ‘Dance Monsters’, and most recently worked closely with actress Julia Garner on the new Paramount film “Apartment 7A”

Lukas has also choreographed for Strictly Come Dancing. He has worked with global brands such as GAP, LYNK&CO and UNIQLO and for international artists such as James Arthur, Pink, Vance Joy and Rita Ora.

He worked on So You Think You Can Dance in 4 countries including the USA and is also well versed in creating live shows to audiences of more than 60 thousand at events like 'British Summer Time Hyde Park', 'Eurovision Song Contest', and The Queens Platinum Jubilee Celebration.

Lukas has also created for The West End as associate choreographer on the Sadler’s Wells and Universal Group production ‘Message In A Bottle’ which he also starred in.

He regularly shares his passion for teaching all over the world having taught in 5 of the 6 continents and is Founder and Creative Director of London based dance company UnTitled Dance Company who have performed their work to sold out audiences internationally.

Connect on Social Media:

https://www.instagram.com/lukas_mcfarlane

Webpage

https://www.lukasmcfarlane.co.uk/

24 - Heather Laura Gray: "Mastering the Dance of Life: A Journey of Professionalism, Reinvention, and Emotional Intelligence” Jun 09, 2024

Episode Summary:

Heather Laura Gray recounts her evolution in dance, tracing back to her family's influence and the decisive moments that shaped her path. Heather shares tales of overcoming adversity and self-doubt during her rigorous ballet training and the subsequent transition to a broader performing arts career in Toronto.

Emphasizing the power of versatility, Heather discusses expanding her repertoire beyond dance to singing and acting, and how her experience as a certified Pilates instructor enriched her career. She gives practical advice on financial sustainability and career longevity for dancers, encouraging them to embrace continuous reinvention.

Highlighting the intricacies of the film industry, Heather speaks to the collective importance of various roles and maintaining high professional standards within her teaching and creative endeavors. Her experiences underscore the value of emotional intelligence when guiding non-dancer performers.

As a mentor, Heather’s engagement with her Business of Dance program mentees illustrates the podcast's interactive approach to professional development. She advocates for lifelong learning and industry networking as key components of a successful dance career.

This episode serves not just as a reflection of Heather's journey but also as a guidepost for emerging talents in the performing arts, emphasizing resourcefulness, resilience, and the importance of a multi-disciplinary approach in crafting a fulfilling artistic career.

Show Notes:

00:00:58 - Early Life and Family Influence
00:05:47 - Turning Point and Encouragement
00:07:57 - Singing and Multi-Talent
00:21:59 - Roles and Responsibilities in Film
00:26:43 - Career Evolution and Reinvention
00:27:47 - Don't Limit Yourself
00:29:59 - Supporting Yourself in Dance
00:38:12 - Understanding Professional Standards
00:38:37 - The Business of Dance Mentorship Q&A session

Biography:

Heather Laura Gray in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada, is a name that resonates deeply within the realms of dance, choreography, and the performing arts. Her journey into the world of arts and entertainment began at a young age through acting. Represented by Characters Talent Management in Vancouver, Heather worked in Film & TV, Voice Over, and Print.

Her love for dance soon took center stage, leading her to train with prestigious institutions like Arts Umbrella in Vancouver, L'Ecole Superieur de Danse du Quebec in Montreal, and Goh Ballet Academy in Vancouver. Here, she honed her skills in various dance forms including Ballet, Flamenco, Chinese Fan Dancing, and Russian Character Dance. Her talent was so exceptional that she toured China and France with the Goh Ballet, performing full-length ballets.

The city of Toronto became her next stage, where she expanded her repertoire to include musical theatre and street style dance skills. Heather landed roles in original musicals for Disney Cruise Lines, playing iconic characters like Cinderella and Belle. Her multidisciplinary approach also led her to act in independent films and popular TV shows like "Dead Like Me" and "The Chris Isaak Show."

Returning to Vancouver after five years in Toronto, Heather continued to diversify her portfolio. She took an interest in the art of choreography and began producing plays, directing, and choreographing stage shows. She immersed herself in street style training, focusing on dance forms like Popping, B-girling, House, Waacking, and Vogueing.

Heather's choreographic brilliance has been showcased in six seasons of the CW series "Riverdale," Academy Award winner John Ridley's feature film "Needle In A Time Stack," and Jojo Siwa's movie musical "The J Team," for which she was nominated for a Children's & Family Emmy Award.

Connect on Social Media:

https://web.facebook.com/heatherlauragray

https://www.instagram.com/hlghlg/

Webpage

https://heatherlauragray.com/

23 - JJ Villar: "From Broken to Unbreakable: How to Turn Your Worst Moments into Your Greatest Successes" Jun 02, 2024

Episode Summary:

We explore the journey of JJ Villar, a dancer turned motivational speaker and life coach. JJ recounts how dance served as a sanctuary and later became his driving force, and how he now applies his understanding of the human psyche to help others achieve greatness.

JJ imparts crucial advice about self-worth and integrity in one's career, highlighting the value of investing in mentorship and self-improvement. He addresses the competitive nature of the industry and the importance of authentic connections, portraying oneself as a business-savvy entrepreneur.

Navigating through industry challenges, JJ provides insight into overcoming professional obstacles and personal blockages. He advocates for the removal of toxicity from one's life and emphasizes ongoing personal development.

Concluding the episode, JJ offers actionable advice through a visualization exercise, inspiring listeners to envision and actualize their success. Full of wisdom and energizing guidance, JJ's conversation is a must-listen for artists and entrepreneurs alike, offering tools for personal and professional empowerment.

Disclaimer: This podcast episode contains discussions of sensitive topics, including suicide, which may trigger some listeners.

Show Notes:

00:03:13 - Introduction and Personal Journey
00:07:31 - Personal Development and Coaching
00:15:03 - Industry Insights and Integrity
00:17:27 - Importance of Investing in Oneself
00:19:01 - Self-Awareness Exercise
00:20:09 - Visualization and Emotional Resonance
00:27:41 - Leadership and Career Relevance
00:30:11 - Exposure and Business
00:40:38 - Industry Challenges
00:42:33 - Building Relationships
00:43:05 - Entrepreneurial Mindset
00:50:56 - Eliminating Toxicity
00:57:00 - Visualization and Final Words

Biography:

JJ Villar, born in Colombia, is a Transformational Peak Performance Coach, Motivational Speaker, Author, and Creative Artist. His early life was marred by an abusive childhood, but he found an escape and a form of self-expression through dance. This initial passion for dance served as a stepping stone for a career that would span multiple disciplines and make a significant impact on many lives.

As he matured, JJ expanded his interests into the study of human behavior and psychology. This led him to become a licensed Neuroencoding Specialist, a role in which he helps individuals transform negative self-talk into a driving force for success. His expertise in human behavior also paved the way for him to become a motivational speaker and author, roles in which he continues to inspire and guide people towards personal and professional development.

In the realm of performance, JJ is an Award-Winning World Champion performer. His talents and contributions to the arts have not only garnered him accolades but also provided a platform for him to share his insights into the entertainment industry. He is a staunch advocate for knowing one's worth and maintaining integrity, principles he applies both in his own career and in his advice to others.

JJ is also the founder of The Little Inner Critic Bootcamp, an initiative aimed at helping people overcome self-destructive behaviors and thought patterns. His approach to coaching and personal development is holistic, combining elements of psychology, performance, and business acumen.

Over the years, JJ has built a reputation for being more than just a coach or performer; he is seen as a force of resilience and determination. His work transcends the boundaries of any single discipline, making him a multifaceted asset in various fields. Whether one is an artist, an entrepreneur, or simply someone looking to unlock their full potential, JJ Villar offers a wealth of knowledge and experience.

Connect on Social Media:

https://www.facebook.com/jjvbar/

https://www.instagram.com/therealjjvillar/

Websites:

JJ Villar Official Website: https://jjvillar.com/

JJ Villar Coaching: https://www.jjvillarcoaching.com/

22 - Jessica Castro: Navigating New York as a Pro Dancer & Choreographer May 26, 2024

Episode Summary:

Jessica's story begins with her humble & late start in New York City at 19, where she discovered her passion for dance and forged meaningful connections within the dance community. Despite initially navigating the industry without an agent, Jessica's talent and perseverance led her to work with esteemed choreographers like Tina Landon and Hi Hat, paving the way for her growth as a dancer.

As Jessica reflects on her career trajectory, she emphasizes the pivotal role in the movie ´´Honey´´ as Jessica Alba’s dance double and courage in navigating the industry's challenges.

She shares memorable moments dancing in two Super Bowls with Janet Jackson & Beyonce, The Greatest Showman, In the Heights. Amidst the glitz and glamour, Jessica emphasizes the significance of kindness, professionalism, and trust in maintaining longevity in the industry.

As the conversation delves into Jessica's transition from dancer to choreographer and educator, she offers insights into the responsibilities and qualities sought in dancers.Her journey from young dancer to choreographer, educator, and mother underscores the multifaceted nature of success in the industry, inspiring listeners to pursue their artistic ambitions with determination and authenticity.

Show Notes:

00:03 - Dance career development with industry professionals.
05:24 - Career growth in the entertainment industry.
09:22 - The importance of unity and standing up for what's right in the entertainment industry.
14:37 - Film and dance experiences with memorable moments.
19:46 - Career and life changes as an artist and dancer.
25:13 - Challenges and rewards of a career in the entertainment industry.
29:27 - The importance of professionalism and trust in the entertainment industry.
37:40 - Being a choreographer, responsibilities, and qualities sought in dancers.
41:36 - Navigating the New York dance industry, with tips on classes and studios.
47:35 - Artistic inspiration and responsibility.
53:34 - Longevity and success in the dance industry

Biography:

Jessica Castro is an internationally acclaimed dancer and choreographer whose formal training began in New York City at the prestigious Alvin Ailey American Dance program.

She has graced stages all across the world including Superbowl Halftime Shows with Janet Jackson and Beyoncé, The World Cup in Africa, and appearing on film in the blockbuster hit “The Greatest Showman”.

Jessica has built a successful career as both a dancer and choreographer working with the likes of Jonas Brothers, Alicia Keys, Doja Cat, Rosalia, Ciara, Jennifer Hudson, Janet Jackson, Jennifer Lopez, Ricky Martin, Pharell, The Black Eyed Peas, Rihanna, Mariah Carey, Kelly Rowland, Will Smith and Mary J Blige.

From her work on the Jonas Brothers’ “What A Man Gotta Do” video to their subsequent Grammy’s Performance, to working on CBS’s new dance show, “Come Dance with Me”, and the Netflix romantic comedy, “Christmas With You”. Whether it’s film, TV, music videos, live performances, tours or artist development.

Some of Jessica’s most recent TV credits include Law & Order Organized Crime, Harlem on Amazon Prime, Step-Up Series, and The Best Man: Final Chapters on Peacock. Additionally, she has worked on a number of beauty and commercial campaigns which include M.A.C. Cosmetics “Powder Kiss” and “Love Me” campaigns as well as commercials for Kohl’s and Nine West starring Ciara. Jessica also served as assistant choreographer for the Netflix series, “The Get Down”.

Recently, Jessica was chosen as one of three contributing choreographers by the 50th annual Dance on Camera festival presented by Dance Films association and Film at Lincoln Center for “Women of The Ghetto” in collaboration with Wonderland Magazine.

Connect on Social Media:

https://www.instagram.com/iliajessicacastro

https://www.facebook.com/jessica.castro.7140

21 - Anastasia Miller Burns: Talent Agent to becoming VP of Inside Dance Magazine May 19, 2024

Episode Summary:

Anastasia Miller Burns offers a captivating narrative of her journey through the dance industry trenches. From her humble beginnings in studio competitions to her tenure as a talent agent and publisher, she shares invaluable insights into the multifaceted world of dance careers.

The episode kicks off with Anastasia delving into the nuances of dance industry career development, providing a roadmap for aspiring dancers looking to make their mark. Drawing from her wealth of experience, she emphasizes the importance of professionalism and business acumen in navigating the competitive landscape.

As the conversation unfolds, she reflects on her transition from dancer to executive, shedding light on her role as Vice President of Inside Dance magazine. From pitching stories to fostering face-to-face connections, she unveils the intricacies of magazine publishing and the digital transformation reshaping the industry.

The episode wraps up with a focus on career paths in dance, with insights on opportunities between LA and New York. From internship opportunities to the qualities sought in clients and employees, Anastasia leaves listeners inspired and empowered to pursue their passions in the dynamic world of dance.

Show Notes:

00:03 - Dance industry career development with insights from professionals.
01:59 - Dance career journey from studio to talent agent to magazine publisher.
05:20 - Professionalism and business skills for dancers.
08:26 - Professionalism, marketing assets, and work life as a dance industry executive.
14:37 - Building a career in the dance industry through networking and reputation.
17:33 - How to pitch stories and feature dancers in a magazine.
21:23 - Dance career development, networking, and skill-building.
28:47 - Magazine's digital transformation and international expansion.
31:58 - The fast-paced and unpredictable nature of the entertainment industry.
34:55 - Trusting oneself and continuing education in the dance industry.
43:16 - Career paths in commercial dance between LA and New York, with insights on opportunities and skills required.
46:39 - Qualities sought in clients and employees, including professionalism, passion, and creativity.
49:11 - Internship opportunities in the dance industry with a focus on hands-on training and industry insights.

Biography:

Anastasia is a former graduate and dance team captain from The Ohio State University. After graduation, Anastasia moved to Los Angeles and became a talent agent booking choreographers, dancers, actors, athletes, and models in feature films, television, commercials, music videos, Broadway productions, and world artist tours.

She was a senior agent and department director at BLOC Talent Agency LA, BLOC NYC and Clear Talent Group NYC.

For the past decade, she has joined the team at Inside Publications in Atlanta, GA as Executive Vice President and Co-Publisher of the all-access dance magazine, INSIDE DANCE.

Anastasia has been a keynote speaker at multiple talent/teacher conventions across the US and internationally.

She’s had the honor of judging and directing for multiple talent and dance events over the past 20 years. Starting in 2010 she became part of the USASF & IASF Dance World Championships Dance Director team where she took on the role of Jazz Director overseeing the genre’s judges for jazz divisions, and as of 2013 until present, is one of the Hip Hop Directors for hip hop divisions at the Dance World Championships.

Working closely with industry professionals through the pages and media outlets of INSIDE DANCE has brought all of the years of her dance and talent business experience full circle!

Connect on Social Media:

https://www.instagram.com/anastasiamillerburns

https://www.facebook.com/anastasia.miller.16

20 - Angela Elgani: Touring with Britney Spears & Backstreet Boys May 12, 2024

Episode Summary:

In this episode, Angela Elgani shares her insights into the dance industry, emphasizing the significance of networking. Starting as an eager newcomer to the dance scene, Angela recounts her journey of attending events and classes to forge key connections. She reflects on the thrilling yet demanding nature of her first tour and provides practical tips for dancers to stand out in auditions, highlighting the necessity of a distinct style or "sauce."

Angela speaks candidly about facing rejection, such as missing out on opportunities to dance for icons like Janet Jackson or Madonna, underscoring resilience as an essential trait for dancers. Despite these setbacks, her successful engagements with top-tier artists like the Backstreet Boys and Britney Spears underline her achievements.

The episode concludes with Angela advocating for mentorship and persistence in pursuing dance careers, offering motivation and advice to aspirants. Her narrative underscores the blend of grit, talent, and sometimes luck needed to succeed in the competitive realm of dance.

Listeners, from novices to pros, will find Angela's experiences and guidance invaluable for their own dance aspirations in this enlightening podcast episode.

Show Notes:

00:07:45 The Importance of Networking in Dance
00:09:53 The Role of Agencies
00:15:23 Preparing for Stage Performances
00:16:43 The Thrill and Challenges of First Tour Rehearsals
00:29:10 Standing Out in a Crowd
00:30:53 The Art of "Putting Sauce" on Dance
00:38:01 The Importance of Social Engagements in Networking
00:48:00 Overcoming Disappointments in the Dance Industry
00:55:34 Closing Remarks and Future Aspirations

Biography:

Angela Elgani is a name that resonates with creativity, passion, and a relentless drive for excellence. She is a multifaceted talent, known for her work as a dancer, creative director, choreographer, host, and actress. Angela has been in the limelight for her collaborations with some of the biggest names in the entertainment industry, including Britney Spears and the Backstreet Boys.

While there is limited information about her early life, Angela's career trajectory speaks volumes about her talent. She has been a part of some of the most iconic tours and performances, including Britney Spears' "Dream With a Dream Tour" from 2002-2005 and the Backstreet Boys from 1999-2000. Her skills are not just confined to dancing; she has also made her mark as a creative director and choreographer.

Angela's versatility is evident from her work in films like 'Step Up Revolution' (2012) and 'You Got Served' (2004). She has also worked with the Jonas Brothers, further solidifying her reputation as a versatile talent in the industry.

Connect on Social Media:

https://www.facebook.com/public/Angela-Maria-Elgani

https://www.instagram.com/xoxoangela_elgani/

19 - Olivia Alboher & Avery Gay: So You Think You Can Dance: Their Untold Stories May 06, 2024

Olivia Alboher and Avery Gay offer an intimate look into their dance journeys, navigating through the challenges and triumphs of the industry. Olivia's early start in Broadway at 10 and her journey to creating dance content on TikTok gaining popularity and becoming a star. Avery started dancing in mommy class, then trained at the most prestigious ballet schools and competed on NBC’s World of Dance and So You Think You Can Dance.

As the conversation unfolds, insights into So You Think You Can Dance experience emerge, shedding light on the emotional toll of eliminations and the mental preparation required for such intense competitions. Both Olivia and Avery offer candid reflections on the highs and lows of their respective journeys, emphasizing the importance of resilience and self-belief in overcoming setbacks.

The episode also touches upon the subjectivity of dance judging, the impact of editing choices on contestants' portrayal, and the necessity of mental toughness in the entertainment industry. Through personal anecdotes and shared experiences, Olivia, Avery, and Menina provide valuable lessons on navigating the dance world with determination and grace.

Ultimately, the episode concludes with a message of encouragement and empowerment, urging listeners to pursue their dance dreams with unwavering dedication and a clear vision for the future.

Show notes:

06:57 - Dance career and friendship between two dancers.
13:22 - How two contestants formed a strong bond on SYTYCD despite not knowing each other well beforehand.
14:54 - Changes to SYTYCD, including new location and format.
19:46 - Living in a house during SYTYCD, with mixed emotions and drama.
22:12 - The challenges and experiences of competing on SYTYCD.
28:16 - Mental preparation for SYTYCD.
34:14 - SYTYCD elimination experiences and coping strategies.
36:55 - TV shows and their editing choices affecting dancers' portrayal.
41:17 - Lessons learned from SYTYCD
46:35 - Mental toughness, rejection, and growth in the entertainment industry.

1:00:00 - SYTYCD auditions and personal stories.
1:04:40 - Making the top 10 on SYTYCD.
1:09:25 - Pursuing a dance career with a vision board and goal setting.

Olivia´s Biography:

Olivia Alboher is a dancer, model, and social media star/influencer best known for her viral dance and flexibility trends on TikTok and Instagram where she holds a fanbase of over 2 million followers between the platforms.

Olivia started dancing at age 2 and a half, and secured her first professional broadway credit in Billy Eliot the Musical by age 10 and has been dancing professionally ever since.

Most currently, you can find Olivia on season 18 of So You Think You Can Dance on FOX and HULU.

Avery´s Biography:

Avery Gay is from Scottsdale, Az and began performing and dancing at the age of 4 and was quickly hooked on the feeling she got from performing for an audience.

She was featured dancing with her partner on the Qualifiers, The Duals and The Cut for NBC World of Dance. Prior to that, she was featured as the youngest dancer to dance on pointe for a prime time TV show, NBC’s Little Big Shots and Fox’s So You Think You Can Dance.

She has been fortunate to perform in more than 12 ballet galas worldwide. Allowing her to travel around the globe from Australia to Portugal. Notably she was honored to perform in the Stars of Today, Stars of Tomorrow Gala at the David H. Koch theater in New York after winning the gold medal for Classical Pas De Deux at YAGP Finals. In 2017, she was awarded The Dance Awards Junior Female Best Dancer.

This was Avery’s second Best Dancer Title, been featured in several magazines including Dance Spirit Magazine.

Avery will continue her training attending the University of Arizona.

Connect on Social Media with Olivia:

www.instagram.com/oliviaalboher/

https://www.tiktok.com/@oliviaalboher

Connect on Social Media with Avery:

https://www.instagram.com/averygayofficial

https://www.tiktok.com/@averygayofficial

18 - Clifford McGhee: From Raw Talent to Three Super Bowls – Dancing Beyond Training Apr 14, 2024

Episode Summary:

Clifford McGhee shares his remarkable journey from a dancer with no formal training to performing with icons like Usher, Beyonce, Destiny’s Child, Janet Jackson, Missy Elliott, Genuwine and Will Smith. Despite facing challenges such as lack of family support and financial resources, McGhee's determination propelled him forward.

He recounts his own struggles in pursuing a dance career, including a 36-hour one way bus ride to LA in pursuit of his dreams. He emphasizes how relationships play a crucial role in the entertainment industry.

The episode delves into the highs and lows of the music industry, sharing stories of triumph and tribulation. From navigating record deals to facing rejection, McGhee and Fortunato offer valuable insights into resilience and self-care amidst industry pressures.

As the conversation progresses, topics such as dealing with setbacks, embracing second chances, and maintaining longevity in the dance industry are explored. McGhee stresses the importance of self-reflection, moral integrity, and personal growth.

The discussion also touches on the differences between dancing and choreography, the preparation involved in the Super Bowl halftime performance with Usher, and the intricacies of dance career paths.

In the end, listeners leave with words of encouragement and empowerment, highlighting the significance of self-love, authenticity, and perseverance in the pursuit of one's passion in the dance industry.

Show notes:

00:03 How the speaker started dancing and became a professional dancer despite no formal training.
07:24 The importance of relationships in the entertainment industry, with a focus on the speaker's personal experiences.
15:27 Music industry experiences and challenges.
21:18 Resilience, self-care, and giving oneself grace in the face of life's challenges.
24:35 Dealing with rejection and not getting excited until the job is done.
29:21 Dealing with setbacks and trusting the journey.
34:06 Embracing dance career at 39, with a second chance to perform at a high level.
38:40 Longevity in the dance industry with a focus on self-care and personal choices.
42:59 Overcoming height limitations in dance career.
47:56 The differences between dancing and choreography.
52:41 Turning down job offers, Super Bowl performances, and finding opportunities to shine.
57:14 Preparation for Super Bowl halftime show performances.
1:03:23 Dance career paths with industry professionals.

Biography:

Clifford McGhee, originally from St. Louis, Missouri, launched his dance career without formal training, relying on innate talent and determination. At just 17, he began dancing with Ginuwine, kickstarting collaborations with icons like Missy Elliott and Will Smith. His career soared when he performed at the VMA's with Janet Jackson, marking a pivotal moment.

Throughout his journey, Clifford worked with acclaimed choreographers and assisted acts like Destiny's Child and Beyoncé, expanding his skill set. Transitioning to the music industry as a recording artist with Capital Records, he later ventured into acting with a recurring role on NBC's "Crowded."

Diversifying his creative pursuits, Clifford explored screenwriting, producing three well-received films for television. He recently contributed to Oprah Winfrey's production of "The Color Purple."

Maintaining a lasting collaboration with Usher, Clifford has been part of 3 Super Bowl Halftime Shows, including Usher, Kendrick Lamar and Missy Elliott. With over two decades of relentless dedication, Clifford exemplifies how persistence paves the way for enduring success.

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17 - Bloc Agent: James Coons: "Navigating Dance Careers" Apr 07, 2024

Episode Summary:

In this episode of the Business of Dance podcast, host James Coons, a senior agent at Bloc Talent Agency, delves into his personal journey and insights into the dance industry. Coons reflects on his transition from a sports-oriented upbringing in Kentucky to discovering his passion for musical theater in high school, leading him to extensive travel with Disney and eventually to a fulfilling career as a dance agent.

Throughout the episode, Coons emphasizes the importance of perseverance and clear decision-making in the casting process, as well as the significance of quality over quantity in agency expansion. He discusses the submission process for dancers, highlighting the need for effective communication and the submission of essential materials like resumes and footage.

Coons also addresses the role of local agents for dancers outside major markets, stressing the importance of careful contract scrutiny and the cultivation of experience before venturing into larger cities. He touches upon industry standards for agent fees and advises young dancers to focus on building relationships within the industry from a young age.

The episode further explores topics such as child talent agencies, the value of college dance programs, and the importance of self-care in maintaining a balanced dance career. Coons encourages dancers to find fulfillment outside of their craft, emphasizing the benefits of travel and diverse life experiences in enhancing artistic expression.

As the episode concludes, Coons expresses gratitude for the opportunity to share his expertise and announces exciting developments within Bloc Talent Agency, showcasing the dynamic and supportive nature of the dance community.

Show notes:

0:03 Dance industry insights with agent James Coons.
1:58 Transitioning from sports to musical theater.
4:02 Passion for theater and dance, transition to casting agent.
7:29 Casting process and agency work.
13:22 Dance representation and marketing materials.
16:42 Dance industry representation and local agents.
19:22 Dance agencies, auditions, and relationships.
25:08 Child talent agencies and auditions.
27:15 Dance career paths and college vs. signing at 18.
30:41 Career paths in the entertainment industry.
37:03 College dance programs and their value.
39:56 Dance agencies and parental involvement.
42:26 Dance career development and self-care with industry expert James.

Biography:

James was born and raised in the small town of Paris, KY, and in 2009 he moved to LA to obtain his BFA in Musical Theatre.

After graduating he worked with Walt Disney Company performing around the world including in Tokyo and Shanghai.

Once back in LA he obtained his Bachelor of Science in Business and worked for Michael Donovan Casting for years and that is where he found his love for being on the other side of the table.

For the past few years he has been building out the commercial and legit departments at Bloc Talent Agency and has a passion for developing emerging talent for the screen and stage.

His other interests include seeing shows, traveling, working with children and just enjoying life.

Website:

https://www.blocagency.com/

Connect on Social Media:

https://www.instagram.com/blocla/

https://www.instagram.com/james_coons/

https://www.facebook.com/james.coons.9

16 - Anthony Carr: The Cameleon: from Ballet companies, Broadway / Movie Musicals and Pop / Hip Hop World Tours Mar 17, 2024

Episode Summary:

Professional dancer and choreographer Anthony Carr shares insights from his career journey. Anthony's dance path began at age four, guided by his mother's influence as a dancer. He transitioned from ballet to hip hop, finding solace and freedom in the latter despite initial setbacks.

He reflects on his experiences in various dance schools and becoming an associate choreographer of The Wiz in NYC, emphasizing the role of mentors and support in his journey.

His story includes shifts from New York to Los Angeles, and even Canada working on films like Hairspray. He shares experiences of auditioning for TLC and touring with Corbin Bleu.

Anthony also touches on mentorship and parental support in dance, advising parents to give dancers space to learn and grow independently. He discusses choreography and working with directors, praising the skills of choreographers like Marguerite Derricks and Jamal Sims. Anthony's admiration for industry legends like Mikhail Baryshnikov and Michael Jackson is evident, showcasing his appreciation for their talent and impact.

The episode concludes with Anthony encouraging dancers to embrace discomfort, take risks, and support each other, emphasizing the importance of staying passionate about the art form.

Show notes:

0:03 Dance industry insights and experiences.
2:15 Dance career path and transition from ballet to hip hop.
5:56 Dance career paths and financial sustainability.
9:29 Dance career, business, and personal growth.
16:35 Dance motivation and rejection.
19:44 Dance career paths and experiences.
26:43 Dance mentorship and parental support.
29:33 Choreography and working with various directors.
36:13 Dance career inspiration and industry legends.
39:25 Dance career paths and industry insights.
45:41 Transitioning from competition dancer to industry professional.
48:36 Dance choreography and training with a professional.
53:50 Dance training and career sustainability.
57:14 Dance career, inspiration, and advice with Broadway choreographer Anthony Morigerato.

Biography:

Born and raised in the Bronx, Anthony "Kanec" Carr emerges as a distinguished figure in the global arts scene, renowned for his prowess as a dancer, choreographer, and actor. His journey commenced at New York City's prestigious School of American Ballet, demonstrating early on his unwavering commitment to his craft.

Simultaneously, he pursued his education at the Professional Performing Arts School (PPAS), showcasing a dedication to both his artistic and academic pursuits. This dual focus propelled his growth, culminating in a fusion of exceptional raw talent and intensive technical training in ballet, tap, jazz, musical theatre, and hip hop by the age of 17.

Kanec swiftly found himself gracing the stage alongside multi-platinum selling recording artists such as Justin Bieber, Missy Elliott, Usher, Chris Brown, Cardi B, and TLC, among other illustrious names.

His portfolio boasts featured roles in prominent movies and television shows, including notable appearances in Step Up 1 & 3, FAME, Hairspray, the Justin Bieber 3D Movie, and Glee. His stage presence has illuminated celebrated venues like the Grammys and the Oscars, as well as various other prestigious musical award ceremonies.

Kanec's creative genius extends to choreography, where his artistry has enriched the work of acclaimed artists like Neyo, Eric Bellinger, and Daddy Yankee. His choreographic creations have been showcased on televised events such as "So You Think You Can Dance," attesting to his ability to craft compelling movement narratives.

Currently contributing to the choreography team for Broadway's "The Wiz" in NYC, Kanec's journey exemplifies a lifelong passion for dance, choreography, and the performing arts.

Website:

Kanec Carr | IDC Official Site (innovationdancecenter.com)

Connect on Social Media:

https://www.instagram.com/klassikkanec/

https://www.facebook.com/AnthonyLeeCarr

15 - Mic Thompson: "Trick of All Trades: Michael Jackson, Ballroom Dancing, Disney, Las Vegas & Paris Extravaganzas, & more" Feb 18, 2024

Episode Summary:

In this Business of Dance podcast episode, Mic Thompson, shares his extensive career journey. Starting with ballroom dancing, Thompson progressed to TV shows, Las Vegas performances, and a memorable impromptu gig in South Africa.

He recounts his path from working with Debbie Allen on the tv show “Fame” to becoming a main choreographer after starting as a Disney performer. A key episode highlight is Thompson's 1993 Michael Jackson audition, leading to a lasting professional and creative partnership.

The discussion delves into the dance industry's dynamics, emphasizing the importance of relationships and networking, illustrated by anecdotes like Chris Judd's engagement through Mic's recommendation. Thompson reflects on significant career achievements, including choreographing for Disney and evolving dance choreography, notably for Michael Jackson’s "Ghost."

The episode also covers Thompson's experiences with Las Vegas extravaganzas and training Chinese dancers, along with his involvement in projects like Pirates of the Caribbean.

The episode concludes with a surprise guest and Mic’s thoughts on the dance industry's history and the power of collaboration.

Show Notes:

0:03 Dance industry insights and experiences with a legendary choreographer.
3:44 Ballroom dancing and Las Vegas show auditions.
6:46 Early dance career in Las Vegas and South Africa.
11:41 Dance career, Fame TV show, and industry experiences.
15:40 Michael Jackson's Neverland theme park in the metaverse.
20:33 Michael Jackson's dance crew and Nick Thompson's role.
23:21 Dance industry, relationships, and Michael Jackson's short film.
28:50 Dance career highlights and experiences.
34:25 Dance choreography and performances.
38:45 Dance careers, Vegas shows, and international choreography.
43:34 Dance career, advice, and Pirates of the Caribbean experience.
49:14 Building relationships and paving the way for a dance career.
55:40 Building intentional relationships in the entertainment industry.
1:01:37 Dance industry history and collaboration.

Biography:

Mic Thompson, a versatile choreographer, has made a significant impact on the entertainment industry. Known for his versatility, Mic was a guest choreographer for the Las Vegas School District (CCSD) Dance Festival, creating a dazzling "BOLLYWOOD" Pop production and "NEWSIES."

Over his 25-year career, Mic has worked with clients like Walt Disney Animation, Disneyland, Universal Studios, Royal Caribbean, NBC, FOX, IBM, and Caesars Entertainment. Dubbed the "Trick of all Trades" by Dance Spirit Magazine, he seamlessly transitions between dance styles and mediums. His credits include stage shows for Disney/Pixar films, performances at Barneys New York Disney Electric Holiday Event, and choreographing for Disney Theatrical Regional Broadway productions like "Tarzan." Internationally, he showcased his talents at the Lido De Paris Theatre in "Bonheur" Extravaganza.

Mic's contributions to choreography have been recognized with awards such as the Southern California Best Choreography Award in 2018 and a nomination for "Best Choreography On The Las Vegas Strip" for his work in "BITE" at the Stratosphere. Collaborating with Michael Jackson from 1997 to 2001 was a highlight, performing internationally and nationally, leaving their mark on award TV shows like the AMA and MTV. His tribute show, "The Ultimate Thriller-MJ Tribute Spectacular," has traveled worldwide, honoring the music legend.

Mic's enduring legacy is seen in the MICTENDO inner-active illuminated dance routine, performed by the BYU World Formation Ballroom Dance Team Champions. Mic Thompson's career showcases his talent, versatility, and dedication to the art of choreography.

Website: www.micsmatch.com

Connect on Social Media:

https://www.instagram.com/micthompson/

https://www.facebook.com/micsmatch

14 - Amy Allen: "From Ballet to the Big Stage: 2x MTV VMA nominee for "Best Choreography" Feb 11, 2024

Episode Summary:

On "Business of Dance," Amy Allen details her journey from Britney Spears's audition hopeful to celebrated choreographer for A-listers like Usher. Starting as a Laker girl at 17, she swiftly broke into the LA dance scene. Her fusion of ballet with commercial dance catapulted her to tour with Beyoncé and later to choreograph for major acts.

Allen opens up about the hurdles of injury and the importance of self-care and creative vitality. She champions continuous learning and reflects on how further business education could have enhanced her career. Teaching herself to perfect ballet while teaching others, she advises using freestyle and life experiences to fuel choreographic work and stresses the significance of mentorship in seizing industry opportunities.

This episode offers a wealth of knowledge for aspiring dancers and creatives, with Allen and host Menina Fortunato exploring the intricacies of the dance world and the entrepreneurial acumen needed to thrive.

Show notes:

0:03 Dance industry insights and experiences with Amy Allen.
3:34 Early life, career path, and industry experiences.
10:47 Dance career highlights and experiences.
15:49 Dance career, competitiveness, and choreography.
20:37 Music, dance, and work with various artists.
25:55 Dance career, injuries, and choreography.
31:24 Dance choreography and overcoming creative blocks.
36:07 Dance styles, choreography, and creativity.
39:46 Dance career, college degree, and personal growth.
45:44 Dance careers, education, and dream jobs.
50:28 Dance passion, choreography, and teaching.
56:27 Dance technique and creativity.
1:01:38 Dance career paths with industry professionals.

Biography:

Amy Allen is a remarkable figure in the world of dance and entertainment, known for her incredible versatility, creative choreography, and unwavering dedication to her craft. With a career spanning television, film, commercials, and live performances, she has made a significant impact on the entertainment industry and the artists she has worked with.

Amy possesses the remarkable talent to transition effortlessly between hip hop and classical ballet, captivating audiences with her grace and poise. This exceptional skill set earned her two nominations for "Best Choreography" at the MTV Video Music Awards, for her work on Usher's "OMG" and Jason Derulo's "Talk Dirty" music videos.

On the small screen, Amy's choreography and infectious smile have graced some of the most popular and sought-after television shows, including "So You Think You Can Dance," "Dancing with the Stars," "Ellen," "American Idol," "X Factor," "Good Morning America," "Jimmy Kimmel," "The Today Show," "GMA," "David Letterman," "Ellen," and "The Voice."

Her talent has left an indelible mark on the industry, contributing to unforgettable moments at prestigious events such as the Nobel Peace Prize, European Music Awards, MTV Video Music Awards, Soul Train Awards, American Music Awards, MTV Movie Awards, Kids Choice Awards, iHeartRadio Music Awards, Grammy Awards, and BET Awards.

Amy's expertise in artist development sets her apart as a mentor and coach. Her ability to fuse classic dance styles with a distinct hip-hop flavor has led to collaborations with a plethora of renowned artists, including Usher, Britney Spears, Ne-Yo, Ciara, Jennifer Hudson, Hilary Duff, Justin Bieber, Will Smith, Faith Hill, Kelly Clarkson, Alicia Keys, Florence and the Machine, Pitbull, Hailee Steinfeld, and many more.

She ventured into the production industry, serving as a set designer for Jason Derulo's World Tour and TV performances.

Website

https://www.choreographeramyallendance.com/

Connect on Social Media:

https://www.instagram.com/gotamydance/https://www.facebook.com/amylilfire

13 - Brandon Sierra: "MSA Agent & Director of Dance Department" Feb 04, 2024

Episode Summary:

In this engaging podcast, Menina Fortunato interviews Brandon Sierra about the nuances of professional dancing. Brandon, with his extensive background, discusses the crucial role authenticity plays in a dancer's career, particularly when finding representation. He addresses the difficulties for families who can't afford the costs of auditions and the importance of following instructions for self-tape submissions.

Brandon underscores the importance of networking, suggesting that a good recommendation can lead to being signed by an agent. He counsels aspiring dancers to be patient, invest in relationships and friendships, and diversify their dance repertoire to increase employability.

He also delves into the art of getting noticed by agents, advocating for a submission that is detailed yet focused on showcasing the dancer's true abilities. Concluding the conversation, Brandon stresses treating a dance career like a business venture, highlighting the value of education and strategic choices in training locations.

This podcast episode is a treasure trove for anyone aspiring to break into the dance industry, loaded with practical tips and insider insights from a seasoned professional.

Show Notes:

00:00:43 - Introduction to the Business of Dance Podcast
00:10:25 - Ideal Submission for Dancers
00:21:41 - The Authenticity in Portrayal
00:24:01 - Challenges in the Dance Industry
00:34:53 - Guidance on Self-Tapes
00:45:40 - The Power of Networking
00:53:55 - Building Relationships and Training
00:57:59 - Building and Training in Dance
01:02:56 - Dance as a Business
01:05:13 - Pursuing a Career in Dance

Biography:

Brandon Sierra is a prominent figure in the entertainment industry, having discovered his passion at an early age. His journey in the world of dance, vocal, and formal musical theater training led him to Niagara University. There, he earned his Bachelor’s in Fine Arts and Dance. During his time at the university, he had the privilege of working with the legendary musical theater duo, John Kander and Fred Ebb.

After his academic pursuits, Brandon spent seven fruitful years in New York City. This period was instrumental in shaping his career, providing him with numerous opportunities and professional experiences. One of the significant milestones during this time was his association with The Broadway Dance Center. This institution played a pivotal role in laying the foundation of his career, helping him establish a robust network and form lasting relationships in the industry.

Brandon's dedication and commitment to the entertainment world are evident in his work ethic and the high-quality service he provides. He is currently the Director of the Talent Department in LA and is associated with the MSA Agency. Brandon takes pride in his role, continually offering leadership and ensuring that the industry's expectations are not just met but exceeded.

In addition to his professional achievements, Brandon's personality shines through in his interactions. He is known to be humble, always wearing a smile, and has left a lasting impression on those who have had the pleasure of working with him.

Website
https://msaagency.com/team/brandonsierra/

Connect on Social Media:
https://www.facebook.com/brandon.sierra.148
https://www.instagram.com/b4brandon/?hl=en

12 - Vincent Paterson: "Unveiling Dance Icons: Journey with Michael Jackson & Madonna - A Game-Changing Era in Dance History" Jan 29, 2024

Episode Summary:

In this enlightening podcast episode, Vincent Paterson narrates his illustrious career, detailing his collaborations with Michael Jackson and Madonna. He reminisces about being cast as the gang leader in Jackson's "Beat It" video and their subsequent partnership. Vincent highlights the creative liberties Jackson afforded him, which culminated in the iconic "Smooth Criminal" lean and revolutionized the Super Bowl halftime show.

Vincent recounts his initial tense interaction with Madonna during a Pepsi commercial shoot, which later transitioned into a dynamic collaboration for the Blonde Ambition Tour. He discusses his assertive stance during contract negotiations, resulting in fair compensation and setting an industry standard for artists' rights.

Listeners are treated to a behind-the-scenes look at the dance world through Vincent's narratives, packed with valuable takeaways for dancers, choreographers, and enthusiasts alike. Join in to explore the life of a dance legend and gain unique perspectives on the performing arts industry.

Show Notes:

00:00:45 - Introduction and Vincent's Career Highlights
00:02:18 - Vincent's New Book and His Work with Michael Jackson
00:03:46 - Vincent's Roles
00:05:38 - Vincent's Role in "Smooth Criminal"
00:10:22 - Vincent's Encounter with Madonna on the Set of a Pepsi Commercial
00:18:55 - Impact of Vincent's Work on Other Dancers
00:28:57 - Vincent's Approach to Choreography
00:37:05 - Vincent's Audition for "Beat It"

Biography:

Vincent Paterson is a renowned director and choreographer with a diverse career spanning film, theater, music, and television. He directed and choreographed notable productions such as "Cabaret" in Berlin and "Evita" in Vienna. Vincent's work on "Gangsta Love" and "Gulliver's Travels" garnered critical acclaim.

In Las Vegas, he helmed Cirque du Soleil's "Viva! Elvis," and he directed the opera "Manon" with Anna Netrebko, conducted by Placido Domingo. His collaborations with Madonna and Michael Jackson are legendary, including directing Madonna's "Blond Ambition Tour" and creating iconic performances like her Marie Antoinette-inspired "Vogue." With Michael Jackson, Vincent choreographed the "Bad Tour" and the Super Bowl halftime show.

Vincent's film contributions include choreographing Lars Von Trier's "Dancer in the Dark." His short film, "Threnody," explored 9/11 through dance, while his choreography graced films like "The Birdcage," "Closer," and "Evita."

He earned Emmy nominations for the TNT Telefilm "In Search of Dr. Seuss" and a Tony nomination for Hal Prince's "Kiss of the Spiderwoman" on Broadway. Vincent has also directed commercials, lectured worldwide, and taught acting and dance in various locations.

Throughout his career, Vincent has collaborated with music legends such as Madonna, Michael Jackson, George Harrison, and Whitney Houston. His accomplishments are celebrated in the Smithsonian publication "Masters of Movement" and the documentary "The Man Behind the Throne."

Connect on Social Media

https://www.facebook.com/VINCENTPATERSONOFFICIAL

https://www.instagram.com/vlpla

Website:

https://www.vincentpaterson.com/

11 - Tammy To: "Transitioning from a Cirque du Soleil dancer to casting director" Jan 21, 2024

Episode Summary:

In this enriching podcast episode, we explore the dance world with Tammy To, a seasoned performer with a family legacy in dance. Tammy shares her personal dance journey, from formative family influences to the hurdles she's overcome in her extensive career.

Tammy highlights the critical role of mentorship, describing the significant impact her mentors had on her development and how she now mentors upcoming talents. The conversation turns to dance's business aspects, where Tammy unpacks the challenges of leading a dance company and the nuances of choreography contracts.

A poignant discussion on diversity within dance reveals the industry's strides toward inclusiveness, an evolution Tammy has witnessed firsthand. She speaks to the merging of classical and modern dance, noting how this blend has enriched performance art.

Tammy's insights extend to dance's future, anticipating transformations in presentation and consumption, especially through technological advancements and digital spaces. The episode wraps with Tammy's reflective advice, offering a blend of inspiration and practical guidance for dancers and enthusiasts alike.

Listeners gain an intimate look at a dance luminary's experiences and philosophies, providing valuable perspectives for anyone with a love for dance.

Show Notes:

00:00:56 - Introduction of Guest: Tammy To
00:02:16 - Tammy To's Diverse Background
00:03:21 - Tammy's Early Dance Journey
00:06:30 - Transition to Casting and Cirque du Soleil
00:11:06 - Casting Process Insights
00:15:29 - In-Person Auditions and Workshops
00:17:01 - The Role of Social Media in Casting
00:20:15 - Challenges Faced by Dancers
00:23:30 - Importance of Networking
00:26:50 - Transitioning from Dance to Other Roles
00:29:10 - Advice for Aspiring Dancers
00:32:05 - Diversity in Dance
00:35:20 - The Evolution of Dance Styles
00:38:40 - The Future of Dance
00:41:55 - Closing Thoughts and Reflections

Biography:

Tammy To's passion for dance has been evident from her early days in Seattle. Her initial foray into the world of professional dance began with the NBA Seattle Supersonics. This experience, combined with her academic pursuits in Business Administration from the University of Washington, set the stage for a promising career in dance. The allure of the LA dance scene beckoned, and Tammy soon found herself relocating to Los Angeles. Known for her versatility, she quickly made a name for herself, establishing a strong reputation in the LA dance community.

Her filmography includes notable appearances in movies such as "You Again" and "The Muppets". Moreover, she has had the privilege of dancing alongside music icons like Celine Dion, Mariah Carey, Katy Perry, and Fergie. Her diverse roles span from stage to television productions, working with esteemed companies like Disney, Nickelodeon, and the Radio City Rockettes.

2011 marked a significant milestone in Tammy's career when she joined the Michael Jackson Immortal World Tour with Cirque du Soleil. As a member of the original cast, she traveled the world, both as a dancer and dance captain. Her journey with Cirque du Soleil continued with the Las Vegas production of Michael Jackson ONE. After many years on stage, Tammy transitioned to support Cirque du Soleil productions as a member of the Casting Team, leveraging her vast experience to nurture and guide new talent.

Connect on Social Media:

https://www.instagram.com/tamzee817/

https://www.facebook.com/TammyTo

Cirque Du Soleil Website

https://casting.cirquedusoleil.com/blog/tammy-to-detraz

5 - Jamal Sims: “Self-taught dancer to 3X Emmy nominated choreographer” Jan 19, 2024

Episode Summary:

In this captivating episode, we delve into the vibrant career of Jamal Sims, a celebrated choreographer whose beginnings were sparked by "The Wiz," leading to a breakthrough gig with Michael Jackson. Jamal emphasizes that a dancer's distinct spark—the "It Factor"—is crucial in auditions, a trait that transcends technical prowess.

He offers a behind-the-scenes look at choreography, highlighting the extensive research involved and the dynamic energy and charisma he seeks in dancers. On the business front, Jamal advises on pitching creative visions passionately and stresses the importance of constructive criticism and adaptability for sustaining a career in the competitive dance industry.

Jamal encourages dancers to broaden their horizons, suggesting they pursue opportunities in directing or producing, and underscores the importance of adaptability and enjoying the journey in achieving long-term industry success.

Concluding the episode, Jamal imparts a key piece of wisdom for aspiring dancers: remain kind and genuine, as these attributes are essential in a cutthroat business. This episode offers a trove of insights for anyone interested in the art and industry of dance.

Show Notes:

Introduction of Jamal Sims - 00:00:56

Early Years and Introduction to Dance - 00:03:04

The Role of Technique and Street Dance - 00:07:05

The "It Factor" in Auditions - 00:12:29

The Importance of Research in Choreography - 00:25:05

Qualities in a Dream Dancer - 00:25:28

The Art of Presentation and Selling Ideas - 00:32:53

The Role of Classes and Talent in the Industry - 00:38:31

The Versatility of a Dancer's Career - 00:40:41

The Role of Inspiration and Motivation - 00:43:00

Openness to Constructive Criticism - 00:52:53

The Importance of Adaptability & Final Words of Advice for Aspiring Dancers - 00:55:44

Biography:

Jamal Sims is a name that resonates in the entertainment industry as a choreographer, director, and executive producer. He made his first significant appearance in Michael Jackson's "Remember the Time" video at the age of 17. Gaining prominence for his work on Miley Cyrus' 2009 promotional single "Hoedown Throwdown" for Hannah Montana: The Movie.

His most recent credits include directing an episode of Grease: Rise of the Pink Ladies as well as choreographing the entire season for Paramount Plus, Disney’s blockbuster hit Encanto, Netflix’s musical 13: the Musical, and Disney’s Aladdin directed by Guy Ritchie.

Other film credits include Girls Trip, Hairspray, Vanilla Sky, Beauty Shop, 17 Again, and the feature films Step Up 1, 2, and 3 as well as the Step Up TV series.

Among his other TV credits are the 82nd Academy Awards, Dancing With the Stars, and So You Think You Can Dance. He is currently the resident choreographer on the multiple Emmy-Awarded RuPaul’s Drag Race and Celebrity Drag Race.

Jamal has brought his creativity to numerous music videos and stage shows for Jennifer Lopez, Madonna, Miley Cyrus, Usher, P.Diddy, Outkast, Gloria Estefan, and The Spice Girls.

He was nominated for 3 Emmy nominations for “Best Choreography”.

Connect on Social Media:

https://www.instagram.com/jamizzi/

Website

https://msaagency.com/jamal-sims-2/

10 - Go 2 Talent Agency: Navigating Hollywood Like a Pro: Real Talk with top dance agents, Lisa & Terry Lindholm Jan 14, 2024

Episode Summary:

Join Lisa and Terry Lindholm as they provide an insider's guide through the intricate talent industry of Hollywood. From the fundamental aspects of the business to the essentials of financial and social media strategy for dancers, they cover what it takes to flourish in the competitive landscape. They also touch on the evolving nature of auditions, the significance of agency relationships, and the crucial elements of representation.

Show Notes:

00:01:28 Introduction to Lisa & Terry Lindholm

00:03:46 Terry's Shift from Dancer to Agent

00:10:23 The Power of Relationships

00:14:48 The Art of Presentation at Auditions

00:20:17 Youth Opportunities in Dance

00:28:35 Advancements in Dance

00:38:49 Social Media Impact

00:42:03 Self-Taping & Remote Auditions

00:53:48 Emphasizing Training & Goals

01:12:28 Agency Consistency & Dialogue

Biographies:

Terry Lindholm

A cornerstone of the dance and talent representation world, Terry co-founded Go 2 Talent Agency, Inc. (GTA) in 2011. With a career encompassing tours, award shows, and choreography, he is also a strong advocate for dancers' rights and interests.

Lisa Coppola Lindholm:

Renowned for her commitment to client care in talent representation, Lisa's industry experience is marked by her honesty and problem-solving acumen. A former professional dancer, she has worked with top industry names and continues to advocate for her clients fiercely.

Connect on Social Media

https://www.instagram.com/go2talent/

Website:
https://www.gototalentagency.com/about

9 - Enola Bedard: “From 0 to 21 MILLION followers" Jan 07, 2024

Episode Summary:

In this episode, we delve into the captivating journey of Enola Bedard, a talented dancer who has successfully carved out her own unique path in the dance industry by leveraging the power of social media from 0 to 21 million followers. From her humble beginnings in Quebec to her collaborations with top artists, Enola's story is a testament to the power of passion, perseverance, and seizing opportunities in the digital age. Get ready to be inspired as we explore Enola's remarkable journey and discover the possibilities that await those who dare to dance their own path.

Show Notes:

00:01:32 - Introduction of Enola Bedard
00:02:08 - Enola's early dance career
00:06:53 - Enola's breakthrough moment
00:10:06 - Enola's journey and challenges in her career
00:25:16 - Enola's unique mindset
00:30:41 - Enola's advice to aspiring dancers
00:36:46 - Enola's approach to collaboration
00:42:05 - Enola's perspective on self-reliance and seizing opportunities
00:47:10 - Enola's commitment to her career
00:51:57 - Enola's future goals

Biography:

Enola Bedard, originally from Quebec, Canada, is a dynamic force in the entertainment industry, based in Los Angeles. As a singer and dancer, she has captivated a global audience, amassing a staggering following of over 21 million on social media through her infectious dance videos.

From her teenage years, Enola embraced dance as not just a passion but a means of artistic expression, catapulting her into stardom. Her prowess in dance has led to collaborations with international music icons, including Daddy Yankee, Nicki Minaj, Jason Derulo, and Sean Paul. Notably, her choreographic ingenuity was showcased in the viral “Giddy Up” music video for Shania Twain, as well as Twain’s electrifying performance at the People's Choice Awards.

2023 marked a new chapter in Enola’s career as she ventured into the music scene. She debuted her singing talent with the single "Yes, Please," showcasing her versatility as an artist and hinting at a promising future in the music industry. Enola's relentless creativity and flair for performance continue to make her a name to watch in the realms of dance and music.

Connect on Social Media

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100080431366393

https://www.instagram.com/enola.bedard/

8 - Carmit Bachar: “Life before and after being a member of The Pussycat Dolls” Dec 31, 2023

Episode Summary:

In this episode, we dive deep into the life and career of Carmit Bachar, a multi-talented artist who has made her mark in dance, music, and beyond. We kick things off by exploring her early life, her initial foray into rhythmic gymnastics, and how she transitioned into dance. Carmit opens up about the challenges she faced, including dealing with a cleft lip and how it shaped her both personally and professionally.

As we move along, Carmit shares invaluable insights into the business side of the entertainment industry. She emphasizes the importance of understanding contracts, the need for trustworthy people around you, and why it's crucial to be well-versed in the business aspects of your craft. She also talks about the significance of networking and the need for continuous learning to stay ahead in the game.

Carmit doesn't shy away from discussing the hard work that goes into achieving success. She stresses the essence of professionalism, the importance of putting in the time, and why persistence and practice are key. She also touches on the need to understand publishing, especially for those venturing into music.

Towards the end, we delve into what makes Carmit unique. She talks about her distinct style and how it helped her carve a niche in the dance world. Finally, both Carmit and the host reflect on their journeys and discuss how they aim to inspire the next generation of artists.

So, sit back and get ready for an episode packed with wisdom, life lessons, and a whole lot of inspiration from the incredible Carmit Bachar.

Show Notes:

01:02:02 - Focus on School
00:02:33 - Introduction and Early Life
00:07:16 - Unique Style and Individuality
00:11:01 - Challenges and Obstacles
00:31:13 - Importance of Learning Tools
00:31:51 - Contracts and Trust
00:41:35 - Importance of Publishing in Music
00:47:43 - Networking and Continuous Learning
00:49:08 - Professionalism and Integrity
00:51:08 - Persistence and Practice
00:51:32 - Inspiring the Next Generation
01:08:52 - The Collective Power of a Group
01:09:36 - Procrastination and Daily Life
01:14:40 - Final Words and Advice

Biography:

Entertainer, host, & creative Carmit Bachar is the sultry voiced, red-haired beauty known as one of the original members of the multi-platinum, Grammy nominated, recording group The Pussycat Dolls. They rose to international fame as a pop sensation with chart-topping hit singles like "Dontcha", "Buttons", "Stickwitchu" and "Beep."

As a professional dancer, she has graced the stage with Beyonce, Michael & Janet Jackson, Jennifer Lopez, Aaliyah, No Doubt and Ricky Martin as the “La Vida Loca Girl”.

Carmit has choreographed for many artists including Gwen Stefani, Macy Gray and Adam Lambert. She hosted The Pulse On Tour for four seasons and taught her infamous classy Doll 2 Dame Heels class as well as mentored many future talents.

Carmit co-created and produced The Zodiac Show, a multi genre live music performance art, stage show. She co-created and hosted the dance web series Pop Dance Life!

Carmit is recognized as an Operation Smile ambassador, the leading organization providing cleft lip and palate repair surgeries to children worldwide.

The Pussycat Dolls reunited to make their mark after a decade hiatus only to be cut short by the unpredictable pandemic and other factors.

Carmit is an advocate for the LGBTQIA community and is a fixture on the yearly Pride circuit known for her high energy performances.

Carmit is a proud mommy to a Keala Rose and continues to carve her lane in this new landscape of the industry. Her next move, Broadway!

Connect on Social Media:

https://www.instagram.com/carmit/

https://www.facebook.com/CarmitBacharOfficial/

7 - Stacey Tookey: "Turning Setbacks into Comebacks: Resilience, Mindset, and the Art of Dance" Dec 24, 2023

Episode Summary:

In this episode of the podcast, host Menina Fortunato sits down with Stacey Tookey, an esteemed director, choreographer, and dancer known for her work on stages and screens globally. Stacey delves into her dance-filled upbringing in Edmonton, where her mother's dance studio served as her nursery and first stage. Her story of overcoming severe stress fractures at 17 underscores her resilience, highlighting the importance of a strong mental attitude in recovering from potential career-ending injuries.

Stacey reflects on the reality of professional dance, noting that while competition accolades are impressive, they don't fully equip dancers for the industry's demands. Instead, she stresses the significance of the growth and character developed through one's journey. Throughout the conversation, Stacey offers insights into the high-pressure world of celebrity performances, having worked with icons like Celine Dion and Justin Timberlake.

Beyond her performance anecdotes, Stacey speaks to the challenges of transitioning between cities and how vital continuous learning and industry connections are to a dancer's success. She discusses her innovative training program, the Protégé Movement, and her pre-professional program, the Bridge Movement, designed to mentor and support upcoming talent.

Ending on a reflective note, Stacey emphasizes authenticity, hard work, and dedication as key to longevity and fulfillment in the dance industry. Her experiences and advice provide a roadmap for aspiring dancers navigating their own paths to success.

Show Notes:

00:02:35 - Introduction of Stacey Tookey
00:07:01 - The Importance of Mindset and Resilience in Overcoming Challenges
00:13:21 - High-Pressure Situations
00:21:56 - Transition from Dancer to Choreographer
00:39:20 - The Protege Movement and The Bridge Movement
00:42:49 - Balancing Motherhood and Career
00:46:00 - Music as a Catalyst
00:50:47 - Emotional Connection Through Writing
00:56:34 - Setting Goals
01:02:02 - Focus on School
01:17:47 - Importance of Connections for Visa
01:21:51 - Importance of In-Person Relationships

Biography:

Stacey Tookey was destined for a life in dance. She grew up in a household filled with the sounds and movements of dance, as her mother, Shelley Tookey, ran a dance studio. This early immersion in the art form set the stage for her future career as a renowned choreographer and dancer. Stacey further honed her skills by studying ballet and contemporary dance with the Ballet British Columbia Mentor Program and Fusion Dance Company.

Her career has been nothing short of illustrious, featuring collaborations with musical icons like Michael Bublé, Celine Dion, Bette Midler, and Justin Timberlake. Beyond performance, Stacey has showcased her choreographic talents across various platforms, earning her three consecutive Primetime Emmy nominations for her work on "So You Think You Can Dance." She has also contributed to Broadway productions as an assistant choreographer and was an original cast member in Celine Dion's five-year Las Vegas show, "A New Day..." at Caesars Palace.

In addition to her work on stage and screen, Stacey is a dedicated educator, teaching master classes globally. She has been a faculty member at prestigious institutions like the NUVO dance convention and has taught at universities such as Loyola Marymount and The Juilliard School.

Beyond her roles as a performer, choreographer, and educator, Stacey is a board member of Nigel Lithgoe’s Dizzy Feet Foundation and the founder of The Protégé Movement, a mentorship program aimed at fostering holistic development in dancers.

Connect on Social Media:

https://www.facebook.com/stacey.tookey

https://www.instagram.com/sjtookey/

Websites:

https://staceytookey.com/

https://www.thebridgemovement.com/

6 - Paul Becker: "From Breakdancing to 300+ Films & TV shows" Dec 17, 2023

Episode Summary:

In the "Business of Dance" podcast, Menina Fortunato converses with Paul Becker, known for choreographing "The Last of Us," and "Disney Descendants." Paul shares his evolution from breakdancing to choreography, starting when an unexpected chance to choreograph a commercial fell into his lap.

The discussion provides insight into Paul's collaborative efforts with Kenny Ortega on "Descendants," turning it from a straightforward film into a celebrated musical. His talent for adapting dance for actors and weaving storytelling into choreography underscores his inventive flair.

Paul is candid about past hardships, such as the financial crisis that cost him his home and led to a job at a toy store where he met Ortega, spurring collaborations that shaped his career.

Offering wisdom on the dance industry, Paul underscores the importance of character and storytelling. His journey underlines the power of adaptability and grabbing opportunities, serving as motivation for creative industry aspirants.

Show Notes:

● (00:01:37) Introduction to Paul Becker

● (00:02:26) Early Years and Self-Taught Dancing

● (00:03:36) Transition to Choreography

● (00:09:07) Financial Crisis and Personal Challenges

● (00:15:51) Working with Non-Dancers and Tapping into Smaller Roles

● (00:28:00) Philosophy on Education and Career Evolution

● (00:33:38) Reading the Room and Professional Etiquette

● (00:35:29) Building Connections and Relationships in Dance

● (00:49:03) Advice and Encouragement to Dancers

● (00:50:23) Impact of Social Media and Art

● (00:50:56) Thanking Paul Becker

● (00:51:27) Conclusion of the Podcast

Biography:

Paul Becker is a distinguished figure in the entertainment industry, carving out a stellar career as a director, choreographer, writer, and producer. His ascent from an impassioned self-learner in dance to an acclaimed choreographer exemplifies dedication and artistic innovation.

From the streets of Victoria, British Columbia, Becker's affinity for movement was ignited by the rhythmic pulses of breakdancing and hip-hop during his early teens. By the age of 19, he had already made his choreographic debut, a transition fueled by his experience on the set of "Chicago," a film that won accolades for its choreography.

Becker's choreographic imprint spans over 300 projects, including high-profile films like "Deadpool 2," "Disney's Descendants," and the "Twilight" series. His television credits are equally impressive, featuring popular series such as "The Last of Us," "Riverdale," and "American Horror Story: Hotel." His knack for storytelling through dance and the transformation of non-musical works into dynamic musical spectacles speaks to his ingenuity and versatility.

His contributions to the art of dance have been recognized with nominations for three world choreography awards and an MTV award victory for "Best Musical Number" in 2021. Moreover, he has been honored with the Leo Award for his outstanding choreographic achievements in film.

Expanding beyond choreography, Becker has produced and creatively directed "Canada's Got Talent" and co-produced the Inaugural Celebration for President Joe Biden. His directorial flair was also showcased at the Pan American Games' closing ceremonies in 2015.

However, Becker's path was fraught with hardship. He recounts the loss of his home during the financial crisis, a period during which he worked at FAO Schwartz Toy Store. It was this twist of fate that connected him with Kenny Ortega, sparking collaborations that propelled him to new heights.

Paul Becker's narrative is more than a chronicle of professional success; it's a source of inspiration, showcasing the fruits of passion, ingenuity, and an unwavering spirit. His ongoing work in the realm of dance and choreography continues to motivate those who dream of a life in the creative arts.

Connect on Social Media:

https://www.instagram.com/paulbecker_official/

Official Website

http://www.beckercreations.com/

4 - Sophia Lucia: "Journey from Pirouettes to Empowerment & Purpose" Dec 03, 2023

Episode Summary:

We delve into the life of Sophia Lucia, a prodigious dancer who started her journey at just two years old. Sophia has danced on prestigious stages, acted in a Hallmark Christmas movie, and even set a Guinness World Record for 55 consecutive pirouettes at age 10.

However, it hasn't all been smooth sailing. Sophia shares the challenges she faced in the ballet world, from intense pressure to issues with body image. Despite these hardships, she acknowledges that her time in ballet was when she was at her dancing best.

Now, Sophia has transitioned to teaching various dance styles, a shift that began in 2020. She's passionate about changing the mentality in the ballet world, particularly around body image and mental health. Sophia Lucia's story is a testament to the power of passion, resilience, and the love of dance.

Show Notes:

00:08:32 - Sophia's Early Dance Experiences and the Raft Technique
00:09:32 - Sophia's Diverse Experiences in the Dance World
00:37:22 - Sophia on the Importance of Relationships and Staying Grounded
00:48:22 - Sophia's Relationship with Her Students and Approach to Social Media
00:49:35 - Sophia's Process for Creating Instagram Content
00:54:25 - Sophia on Pushing Out of Her Comfort Zone and Self-Care
01:01:21 - Sophia Recounts the Pressure of Attempting a World Record
01:01:45 - Sophia Discusses the Logistics of Her World Record Attempt

Biography:

Sophia Lucia is an American dancer who started dancing at the age of two. She began her training at the San Diego Dance Centre, which is owned by her cousin. Later, she moved to Arizona to further her ballet training at Phoenix's Master Ballet Academy.

Sophia's talent was recognized early on. In 2012, a video of her performing 40 turns went viral, leading to her appearance on The Ellen DeGeneres Show. She also made a brief appearance on the reality television series Dance Moms.

In 2013, at just 10 years old, Sophia broke the Guinness World Record for most consecutive pirouettes, completing an impressive 55 turns. The following year, she was named the Junior Female Best Dancer at the Dance Awards in New York City.

She has appeared in shows such as "Shake It Up", "Dance Moms", "Dancing with the Stars", and "America's Got Talent". In 2015, she starred in Hallmark's "A Nutcracker Christmas".

Connect on Social Media

https://www.instagram.com/_sophialucia/

https://www.facebook.com/SophiaLucia1726/

3 - Brian Friedman: “Creating a lifetime career in dance" Nov 26, 2023

Episode Summary:

In this episode, we delve into Brian Friedman's journey as a dancer, choreographer, and mentor. Brian discusses the delicate balance between personal ambitions and helping others, emphasizing the power of narrative in dance. He examines his own education and advocating for arts-specialized schools.

Brian reveals his drive for projects with devoted teams and his secret to longevity in the competitive dance industry—constant reinvention without limits. He shares his personal growth pursuits, including sewing and Broadway dreams.

To conclude, Brian offers essential life guidance from his mother about choosing one's passion, and a mentor's counsel on avoiding ego to maintain humility. This episode is filled with invaluable lessons for enthusiasts of art, education, and self-improvement.

Show Notes:

00:15:34 - Juggling Career and Guidance
00:20:18 - Learning Styles and Artistic Minds
00:39:17 - Reinventing Oneself in the Dance Entertainment Industry
01:01:05 - Professionalism and Determination in Dance
01:18:42 - Choreographing and Breaking Norms
01:21:48 - Valuable Life Advice
01:25:48 - Hypnosis and Learning

Biography:

Brian Friedman can be described as a pioneer and entrepreneur who opened his first dance studio at 16.

As one of the most sought-after dancers in the business, his film credits include Charlie’s Angels: Full Throttle, You Got Served, She’s All That, Austin Powers Gold Member and Uptown Girls. Brian has also performed with top music artists such as Michael Jackson, Celine Dion, Janet Jackson, Prince, Paula Abdul and more.

Brian soon became one of the most in-demand choreographers in the business and went on to choreograph such shows as Dancing with The Stars, So You Think You Can Dance, Will & Grace, The Tonight Show, Late Night, Jimmy Kimmel, The Ellen Show, Oprah, MTV VMA’s, VH1 Divas Live, American Music Awards and The Billboard Music Awards.

The list of artists he has Creative Directed & Choreographed for include Justin Bieber, Britney Spears, Beyoncé, Rihanna, Ciara, Mariah Carey, Usher, P!nk, Nicole Scherzinger, Ne-Yo, Christina Aguilera, Cher, and Sam Smith.

He was chosen by Simon Cowell to work on several of his most popular and successful projects, including judging, choreographing, creative directing, and producing The X Factor (US and UK), America's Got Talent, and Britain’s Got Talent.

Connect on Social Media

https://www.facebook.com/BrianFriedmanOfficial/

https://www.instagram.com/brianfriedman/

2 - Alex Wong: "From Ballet Dancer to TV & Tik Tok Star" Nov 26, 2023

Episode Summary:

Host Menina Fortunato talks with Alex Wong about his evolution from tap to ballet to a standout on "So You Think You Can Dance." Alex recounts his reluctant start in ballet, his win at the Prix de Lausanne competition, and his tenure with prestigious ballet companies. The discussion also covers his successful pivot to TikTok during the pandemic, contrasting his traditional dance roles with the more profitable social media sphere. The episode concludes by exploring the broadening avenues for dancers in the digital era, with Alex's story providing both inspiration and actionable insights.

Show Notes:

00:01:42 - Introduction to Alex Wong
00:02:40 - Alex's Early Dance Journey
00:07:47 - Social Media Connections
00:13:54 - Social Media and Dance Agencies
00:16:10 - Advice for Dancers
00:20:53 - Building Relationships in the Dance Industry
00:22:35 - Training and Work Balance

Biography:

Alex Wong began his dance journey at the tender age of 7, with his training encompassing various styles, including tap and jazz. By the age of 10, he was honing his ballet skills at the renowned Goh Ballet Academy in Vancouver, Canada. His prowess in ballet was further recognized when he became the first Canadian to win the prestigious Prix de Lausanne competition in Switzerland in 2004.

Alex briefly danced with the American Ballet Theatre before joining the Miami City Ballet. By 2007, he had been promoted to the rank of soloist at MCB. His repertoire is vast, having performed leading roles in renowned productions such as Balanchine’s Symphony In Three Movements, Twyla Tharp’s Push Comes to Shove, and many more.

In 2009, Alex's journey took an exciting turn when he auditioned for the FOX dance series, "So You Think You Can Dance." Although he made it to the final Top 20, contractual obligations with the Miami City Ballet forced him to withdraw. However, his impressive audition led to a promotion to the rank of principal soloist at MCB. In 2010, he took another shot at SYTYCD and made it to the Top 10 contestants for season seven. Unfortunately, an injury during a rehearsal forced him out of the competition.

He has appeared on shows like "Glee," "Smash," "The Voice," and "Dancing with the Stars." He even made it to the semi-final Hollywood rounds of "American Idol." Alex's versatility is further highlighted by his dance single "Crave" and his role as Sniper in the Original Broadway Cast of "Newsies."

Connect on Social Media:

https://www.instagram.com/alexdwong

https://www.facebook.com/alexdwong

Official Website

https://www.thealexwong.com

1 - Menina Fortunato: “Introduction to The Business of Dance” Nov 26, 2023

Episode Summary:

In this episode of the Business of Dance podcast, host Menina Fortunato takes us on a journey through her illustrious career in dance and the business side of it. The episode culminates with the birth of the Business of Dance podcast, aimed at helping aspiring dancers navigate the complexities of a professional dance career. Throughout the episode, Menina's passion for dance and business shines through, making it a must-listen for anyone looking to make a mark in the dance industry.

Show Notes:

00:00:00 - Introduction to the Business of Dance Podcast
00:03:33 - Menina's Early Education in Dance Business
00:04:16 - Menina's First Professional Dance Gig
00:06:37 - Menina's Move to LA
00:08:33 - Menina's Work with Renowned Shows and Artists
00:10:46 - The Birth of the Business of Dance Mentorship Program
00:12:04 - The Aim of the Business of Dance Podcast

Biography:

Menina Fortunato, the founder of The Business of Dance, boasts a remarkable three-decade tenure in the dance industry.

Her TV & fappearances on prominent television shows and films, including America's Got Talent, Latin American Music Awards, Star Trek: Enterprise, DC's Legends of Tomorrow, Guys Choice Awards, Alias, MAD TV, Spectacular, Kickin It Old Skool, and Celebrity Fit Club.

Throughout her illustrious career, she has collaborated with a myriad of esteemed recording artists, including Britney Spears, Beyoncé, Carrie Underwood, Paula Abdul, Maluma, Carmen Electra, P!nk, Fergie, Luke Bryan, Earth Wind & Fire, MC Hammer, Victoria Justice, William Hung, Rain, and Luis Miguel, to name but a few.

Her creative prowess shone as she assumed roles such as associate choreographer for The X Factor, associate consulting producer on America's Got Talent, and executive producer for various music videos filmed at Universal Studios and Paramount Studios.

Her exceptional industry insight earned her a coveted spot as a guest judge on the acclaimed TV show DANCE MOMS, where she adjudicated of Maddie Ziegler and JoJo Siwa, among others.

Beyond her notable accomplishments, Menina is the visionary founder and owner of The Hollywood Summer Tour and The London Spring Tour, prestigious dance programs designed to educate, guide, and inspire aspiring dancers pursuing a career in the commercial dance industry.

Recognized as a trusted authority in her field, Menina has served on the advisory board at Studio School (formerly Relativity School) for their esteemed Commercial Dance BFA program. Additionally, she has played an instrumental role as a voting committee member for the World Choreography Awards, Universal Dance Awards, and the National Dance Committee for SAG (Screen Actors Guild).

Connect on Social Media:

https://www.facebook.com/meninafortunato

https://www.instagram.com/meninafortunato/

https://www.youtube.com/@menina.fortunato

Websites:

https://www.meninafortunato.com/

https://www.bizofdance.com/menina-fortunato

Business of Dance - Trailer Oct 26, 2023

The Business of Dance" podcast, hosted by the seasoned dance professional Menina Fortunato, is your go-to resource for dancers and parents of aspiring dancers, providing essential insights to navigate the complex world of dance careers. 
In each episode, Menina engages in candid conversations with industry experts, delving into the multifaceted dimensions of the dance world. Together, they shine a spotlight on the often-overlooked business aspects of pursuing a dance profession. 
With a clear mission to empower dancers and help them achieve their dreams, this podcast addresses a wide range of topics, from personal development and mental skills to auditioning, social media marketing, securing dance agents, capitalizing on casting opportunities, on-the-job etiquette, talent unions, media pitching, nutrition, finances, and much more. Menina firmly underscores that talent alone is insufficient; aspiring dancers must grasp the intricacies of the "Business of Dance" to thrive in the industry. 
Listeners can anticipate gaining exclusive access to insider knowledge as Menina engages with prominent figures from the dance world. These accomplished guests generously share their insights, personal journeys, and invaluable career advice. 
By tuning in, you receive a VIP backstage pass to the dance world, providing a unique opportunity to learn from the industry's best. Don't forget to hit the subscribe button to ensure you never miss an episode brimming with wisdom and inspiration. 
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