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    Religion & Spirituality

    Cults to Consciousness

    For the curious & compassionate. Firsthand Survivor Stories of escaping cults, high-control groups & people. 

    The Cults to Consciousness Podcast (and YouTube channel) is Hosted by Shelise Ann Sola (a former devout Mormon / CSA survivor) and her Producer husband, Jonathan Rosales. Not anti-religious but firmly anti-abuse, they aim to shed light on manipulative practices and systems, while promoting understanding and accountability. C2C has attracted a kind and engaged community who thoughtfully support their guests. Hit follow to join them on their advocacy mission! 

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    Latest Episodes:
    When Being the “Perfect Mormon” Becomes an Obsession Sep 30, 2026
    Show notes

    Justin returns LIVE to dive deeper into how growing up Mormon intensified his OCD into debilitating religious scrupulosity, where even the smallest decisions could become questions of obedience, worthiness, and sin. He’ll unpack the specific rules he felt compelled to follow, how leaving a high-control religion dramatically changed his experience with OCD, and how he learned to replace rigid, black-and-white thinking with nuance, self-trust, and a much freer way of living.

    Click here to watch on YouTube

    Watch our initial interview with Justin

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    **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.**

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    Escaping the Mormon Home Where Mom Spoke for God (ft. Athena Grimes) Sep 29, 2026
    Show notes

    Athena Grimes returns LIVE to dive deeper into the dark side of “personal revelation” and how her mother used supposed messages from God to justify extreme control and abuse. Along with more stories from growing up under her mother’s religious authority we’ll unpack what happens when a parent believes their own voice is the voice of God.

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    **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.**

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    At 9 Years Old, My Mormon Mom Said God Wanted Her to Sacrifice Me Sep 25, 2026
    Show notes

    Athena Grimes grew up in mainstream Mormonism under a mother who, Athena says, used “personal revelation” to justify extreme control, isolation, punishment, and abuse—including telling nine-year-old Athena that God required an “Abraham experience” in which she would die, leading Athena to plan her own funeral and say goodbye to her family. Years later, after joining the military, getting married, entering therapy, and eventually leaving Mormonism, Athena began recognizing the religious framework that had been used to control her, and ultimately made the decision to cut contact with her parents and reclaim her life.

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    **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.**

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    How I Got My Mom to Leave Mormonism Sep 23, 2026
    Show notes

    Today I sit down LIVE with Mama Bear to reveal how I played a part in helping her leave Mormonism, and what we’ve learned about our family and each other since walking away. We’ll unpack toxic perfectionism, family vs. faith, shocking garment stories, and multigenerational perspectives on what it meant to be a “good Mormon mom,” while uncovering some truths about my childhood, including mom’s secret feelings about the demands of the church.

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    Venmo @sheliseann

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    Instagram @cultstoconsciousness

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    TikTok @cults.to.consciousness

    Twitter @cultstocon

    **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.**

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    BREAKING: Jehovah’s Witness Governing Body REMOVE Blood Doctrine? (ft.Alissa Watson) Sep 21, 2026
    Show notes

    Jehovah’s Witnesses have changed their blood doctrine again. In Governing Body Update #6, a major shift was announced regarding red blood cells, white blood cells, platelets, and plasma—components that Jehovah’s Witnesses were previously instructed not to accept, but which are now being left to individual conscience. Alissa Watson of @alissasawake joins us LIVE to break down what changed, what Jehovah’s Witnesses were taught before, and the difficult questions this raises about “new light,” organizational authority, and the real-world consequences of a doctrine involving life-or-death medical decisions.

    Click to watch on YouTube

    Watch Alissa's video which further goes into this

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    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@alissasawake

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    Venmo @sheliseann

    Find us on Social media!

    Instagram @cultstoconsciousness

    Host Instagram @sheliseann

    Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_

    TikTok @cults.to.consciousness

    Twitter @cultstocon

    **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.**

    See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.


    ESCAPING THE ROOM My Tyrannical Hoarder Father Kept Me CONFINED to for 16 Years Sep 18, 2026
    Show notes

    Mae returns LIVE to answer viewer questions and dive deeper into the parts of her childhood story we couldn’t fully explore in our first conversation. We’ll unpack more of the extreme isolation and religious control she experienced, what happened after she finally left her father’s home, and how she’s learned to navigate freedom, relationships, and healing after growing up so disconnected from the outside world.

    Click here to watch on YouTube

    Watch our initial interview with Mae

    Find and support Mae!

    YT: https://www.youtube.com/@Maeden

    IG photography: https://www.instagram.com/maeden.photo/

    IG: https://www.instagram.com/maedenart/

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    Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness

    Venmo @sheliseann

    Find us on Social media!

    Instagram @cultstoconsciousness

    Host Instagram @sheliseann

    Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_

    TikTok @cults.to.consciousness

    Twitter @cultstocon

    **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.**

    See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.


    The Mormon Mission That Sent Him Into a Mental Health Crisis Sep 16, 2026
    Show notes

    Raised in an intensely devout Mormon household, Justin Shoemaker believed happiness and salvation came from following every rule exactly… until religious scrupulosity and intrusive thoughts sent him into a devastating mental-health crisis on his mission. After returning home, attending BYU-Idaho, rushing into a temple marriage, and later becoming deeply involved in an Amway-associated training organization, Justin began recognizing the same patterns of obedience, shame, and surrendered autonomy repeating throughout his life.

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    IG: https://www.instagram.com/jjshoey/

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    Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness

    Venmo @sheliseann

    Find us on Social media!

    Instagram @cultstoconsciousness

    Host Instagram @sheliseann

    Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_

    TikTok @cults.to.consciousness

    Twitter @cultstocon

    **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.**

    See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.


    TED BUNDY Joined the Mormon Church While He Was Killing Women (ft. Postmormon Postmortem) Sep 15, 2026
    Show notes

    How did one of America’s most notorious serial killers convince a religious community that he was one of them, and for a time, that he couldn't possibly be guilty? Today we are joined LIVE with Hannah and Jess of the “ @PostmormonPostmortem ” Podcast to deep dive Bundy’s Mormon conversion, his life inside the congregation, arrest, members defending & supporting him, and ultimately his conviction and excommunication.

    Click here to watch on YouTube

    Follow and support Hannah & Jess!

    Website: https://postmormonpostmortem.com/

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    Venmo @sheliseann

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    Instagram @cultstoconsciousness

    Host Instagram @sheliseann

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    TikTok @cults.to.consciousness

    Twitter @cultstocon

    **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.**

    See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.


    She Spent 16 Years Trapped in ONE ROOM by Her Tyrannical Hoarder Father Sep 11, 2026
    Show notes

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    For most of the first 16 years of her life, Mae Vanders says she was confined to a tiny section of one room inside her family’s hoarded home—never attending school and relying on her older sister, television, and whatever she could read to understand the outside world. Her father invoked the Bible and his role as the “head of the household” to justify extreme control, isolation, and ab*se, until Mae and her mother finally moved out and she began experiencing freedom for the first time.

    Click here to watch on YouTube

    Find and support Mae!

    YT: https://www.youtube.com/@maeden

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    Venmo @sheliseann

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    Host Instagram @sheliseann

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    TikTok @cults.to.consciousness

    Twitter @cultstocon

    **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.**

    See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.


    The Cult Controlled How I Had Sex and With Who: Inside Aesthetic Realism Sep 09, 2026
    Show notes

    In this follow-up LIVE, Donna Lamb takes us deeper inside Aesthetic Realism, revealing how the group attempted to control members’ sexuality, relationships, and identities, and how she eventually became part of the system herself. Donna confronts her role in helping convince gay people they could “change,” while exposing the manipulation that kept her devoted to the group for decades.

    Click here to watch on YouTube

    Watch our initial interview with Donna

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    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/donnalamb330/

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DonnaLambSpeaks

    Substack: https://donnalamb.substack.com/

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/donna.lamb.528

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/donna-lamb-295188144/

    Website: https://donnalamb.com/

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    Venmo @sheliseann

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    Host Instagram @sheliseann

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    TikTok @cults.to.consciousness

    Twitter @cultstocon

    **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.**

    See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.


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