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    Religion & Spirituality

    Cults to Consciousness

    For the curious & compassionate. Firsthand Survivor Stories of escaping cults, high-control groups & people. 

    The Cults to Consciousness Podcast (and YouTube channel) is Hosted by Shelise Ann Sola (a former devout Mormon / CSA survivor) and her Producer husband, Jonathan Rosales. Not anti-religious but firmly anti-abuse, they aim to shed light on manipulative practices and systems, while promoting understanding and accountability. C2C has attracted a kind and engaged community who thoughtfully support their guests. Hit follow to join them on their advocacy mission! 

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    She Escaped a Pimp… Then Spent 30 Years in a Cult Sep 08, 2026
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    They can't harm you, if they can't find you! Use code CULT at the link below and get 60% off an annual plan: https://incogni.com/cult

    At just 18 years old, Donna Lamb arrived in New York City dreaming of becoming an actress—only to be recruited into sex work on her second day in the city. After dr*gs, violence, and a terrifying encounter that made her fear for her life, Donna escaped that world but soon found herself pulled into Aesthetic Realism, a high-control group that she says attempted to change her sexuality, dictated relationships and even s*x, and demanded devotion to its founder, Eli Siegel. Now 77, Donna shares how she finally reclaimed her own voice after decades of surrendering her autonomy.

    Click here to watch on YouTube

    Find and support Donna!

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/donnalamb330/

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DonnaLambSpeaks

    Substack: https://donnalamb.substack.com/

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/donna.lamb.528

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/donna-lamb-295188144/

    Website: https://donnalamb.com/

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    Venmo @sheliseann

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    **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.**

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    How this Cult RECRUITS Teens… and What Happens When They Try to Leave Sep 04, 2026
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    Following up our enlightening interview with Mitch Cunico of @Cult_Audit about his time as a leader within the World Mission Society Church of God (WMSCOG), we are joined with him LIVE today to further dive into their recruiting process. Were they recruiting? What do they say? How do they approach college students? How can parents warn their kids?


    We’ll go behind the curtain into the “Letters to Mother” system and how personal information can create the appearance that “Mother” somehow knows what someone is thinking or struggling with. And what Mitch feels happens when a member begins questioning or leaves the church.

    Click here to watch on YouTube

    Watch our initial interview with Mitch

    Find and support Mitch!

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Cult_Audit/

    IG: https://www.instagram.com/cult_audit/

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    Venmo @sheliseann

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    Twitter @cultstocon

    **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.**

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    I Became a Leader in a Korean Cult — My Arranged Wife Was Used to Spy On Me Sep 02, 2026
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    Former high-ranking World Mission Society Church of God member Mitch Cunico (of @Cult_Audit ) reveals how a seemingly innocent Bible study pulled him into a South Korean high-control religious group that demanded relentless evangelizing, money, strict obedience, and eventually even control over his marriage. Mitch was matched with a Korean wife he barely knew, living at the church as pastoral staff, watching members’ private confessions allegedly be used to monitor them, and ultimately discovering information that shattered his belief in the organization.

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    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Cult_Audit/

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    Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness

    Venmo @sheliseann

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    Instagram @cultstoconsciousness

    Host Instagram @sheliseann

    Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_

    TikTok @cults.to.consciousness

    Twitter @cultstocon

    **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.**

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    She Infiltrated Sam Bateman’s Cult and JUST Watched Him Get Sentenced Aug 31, 2026
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    Dr. Christine Marie infiltrated the inner circle of polygamous cult leader Samuel Bateman, helping expose the horrific ab*se happening behind closed doors and ultimately contributing to his downfall. Now, just days after watching Bateman receive his final sentence in court, Christine joins us to reveal what it took to bring him down… and what it was like to finally see justice served.

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    Find and Support Christine!

    Website: http://christinemarie.com/

    IG: https://www.instagram.com/dr.christinemarie/

    https://voicesfordignity.org/


    Watch our initial interview with Dr. Christine Marie

    Watch our last live with Nomz and Makelle

    Watch our interview with Nomz

    Watch our interview with Makelle

    Part Two with Makelle

    Watch our full interview with Jude Bateman, Sam's sister

    Our Costa Rica Vacation has sold out! Join our waitlist in case of any cancellations

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    Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast.

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    Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness

    Venmo @sheliseann

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    Instagram @cultstoconsciousness

    Host Instagram @sheliseann

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    TikTok @cults.to.consciousness

    Twitter @cultstocon

    **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.**

    See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    JUST SENTENCED: Ex-Wives to Polygamist Cult Leader Reveal What Happened in Court Aug 28, 2026
    Show notes

    Polygamous sect leader Samuel Bateman has been sentenced to a total of 74 years in prison. Yesterday an Arizona state judge handed down an additional 24-year prison sentence to be served consecutively after his 50-year federal prison sentence.

    Today we are joined LIVE with Naomi "Nomz" Bistline (Sam Bateman’s former 13th wife) who was at the hearing and gave an impact statement, and his former 22nd wife, Makelle Bistline, as they debrief us on exactly what happened.

    Click here to watch on YouTube

    Follow and support Nomz and Makelle!

    IG: @nomzia_b

    TT: @nomzia_b

    FB: https://www.facebook.com/NomziBistline

    IG: https://www.instagram.com/16_makelle/

    TT: https://www.tiktok.com/@16makelle

    Watch our latest live with Dr. Christine Marie

    Watch our last live with Nomz and Makelle

    Watch our interview with Nomz

    Watch our interview with Makelle

    Part Two with Makelle

    Our interview with Dr. Christine Katas

    Watch our full interview with Jude Bateman, Sam's sister



    Our Costa Rica Vacation has sold out! Join our waitlist in case of any cancellations

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    Venmo @sheliseann

    Find us on Social media!

    Instagram @cultstoconsciousness

    Host Instagram @sheliseann

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    TikTok @cults.to.consciousness

    Twitter @cultstocon

    **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.**

    See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    The Dark Reality of Birth Defects in an Incestuous Polygamist Cult ft. @TheAmandaRaeGrant Aug 26, 2026
    Show notes

    Explore my Hungryroot Digital Cookbook “Cult Classics” and get 40% off your first order plus a free item in every box for life at https://hungryroot.com/CULTFREE

    Amanda Rae returns for a disturbing deep dive into the alleged consequences of generations of incest within the polygamous Kingston Group, from miscarriages and birth defects to infertility and reproductive coercion. Amanda and Shelise examine how the group’s obsession with preserving its “pure” bloodline has impacted women and chiIdren—and why, despite mounting consequences, the practice continues

    Click here to watch on YouTube

    Watch Shelise on Amanda's channel

    Find and support Amanda!

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheAmandaRaeGrant

    TT: https://www.tiktok.com/@amanda.rae.grant

    IG: https://www.instagram.com/amandaraegrant/

    Our Costa Rica Vacation has sold out! Join our waitlist in case of any cancellations

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    Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast.

    Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here!

    Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness

    Venmo @sheliseann

    Find us on Social media!

    Instagram @cultstoconsciousness

    Host Instagram @sheliseann

    Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_

    TikTok @cults.to.consciousness

    Twitter @cultstocon

    **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.**

    See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    When Two Best Friends Become SISTER WIVES to a FALSE PROPHET Aug 24, 2026
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    When two best friends are coerced to becoming sister wives to a false prophet, how does their friendship evolve? Did it survive the pressures of a household with over 20 other wives? Have they maintained a friendship after one of them helped put the false prophet behind bars? Makelle and Nomz return today for a special LIVE stream to answer all!

    Click here to watch on YouTube

    Follow and support Makelle and Nomz!

    IG: https://www.instagram.com/16_makelle/

    TT: https://www.tiktok.com/@16makelle

    IG: @nomzia_b https://www.instagram.com/nomzia_b/

    TT: @nomzia_b https://www.tiktok.com/@nomzia_b?lang=en

    FB: https://www.facebook.com/NomziBistline

    Watch our interview with Makelle (Sam's 22nd Wife)

    Part Two with Makelle

    Watch our interview with Nomz

    Our interview with Dr. Christine Katas

    Watch our full interview with Jude Bateman, Sam's sister

    Our Costa Rica Vacation has sold out! Join our waitlist in case of any cancellations

    Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel!

    Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast.

    Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here!

    Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness

    Venmo @sheliseann

    Find us on Social media!

    Instagram @cultstoconsciousness

    Host Instagram @sheliseann

    Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_

    TikTok @cults.to.consciousness

    Twitter @cultstocon

    **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.**

    See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    The 22nd Wife Who Helped TAKE DOWN FLDS “False Prophet” Sam Bateman Aug 21, 2026
    Show notes

    After being gr**med and coerced into becoming Sam Bateman’s 22nd wife, Makelle Bistline reveals what life was actually like inside his polygamous household—and how quickly the disturbing reality began to surface. As her doubts grew, Makelle secretly helped get information to Christine, eventually becoming part of the quiet resistance that helped expose Bateman and bring the FBI closer to his inner circle.

    Click here to watch on YouTube

    Watch our Part One with Makelle

    Watch our LIVE with Makelle & Nomz

    Watch our interview with Nomz

    Our interview with Dr. Christine Katas

    Follow and support Makelle!

    IG: https://www.instagram.com/16_makelle/

    TT: https://www.tiktok.com/@16makelle

    Our Costa Rica Vacation has sold out! Join our waitlist in case of any cancellations

    Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel!

    Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast.

    Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here!

    Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness

    Venmo @sheliseann

    Find us on Social media!

    Instagram @cultstoconsciousness

    Host Instagram @sheliseann

    Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_

    TikTok @cults.to.consciousness

    Twitter @cultstocon

    **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.**

    See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    Warren Jeffs’ Daughter Reveals Unexpected Reasons People Are Leaving the FLDS Aug 17, 2026
    Show notes

    In this follow-up conversation, Sienna returns to share what’s changing inside the FLDS and the unexpected reasons some members are beginning to walk away. As Warren Jeffs’ daughter, she offers a rare insider perspective on what’s driving people to question the group, what makes leaving so complicated, and how life inside the FLDS continues to evolve.

    Click here to watch on YouTube

    Watch our initial interview with Sienna

    Find and support Sienna!

    Sienna is 12 weeks pregnant and is going to be a single mama. Support her with her Baby Registry :)

    Sienna’s art

    IG: https://www.instagram.com/papergardenarts

    Resources for leaving Polygamy & volunteer opportunities

    If you or someone you love has left polygamy and needs assistance, please reach out to "Holding Out HELP" at 801-548-3492 or visit their website at www.holdingouthelp.org

    Holding Out Help: https://holdingouthelp.org/

    Short Creek Dream Center: https://www.shortcreekdreamcenter.org/

    Our Costa Rica Vacation has sold out! Join our waitlist in case of any cancellations

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    Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast.

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    Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness

    Venmo @sheliseann

    Find us on Social media!

    Instagram @cultstoconsciousness

    Host Instagram @sheliseann

    Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_

    TikTok @cults.to.consciousness

    Twitter @cultstocon

    **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.**

    See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    FLDS “Prophet” Married My 3 Mothers, My Young Sisters… And Me (Makelle’s Story) Aug 14, 2026
    Show notes

    Raised in the FLDS with 3 mothers and 27 siblings, Makelle grew up believing extreme restrictions, poverty, and obedience to religious authority were simply normal. That foundation made her vulnerable when self-proclaimed prophet Sam Bateman entered her family’s world, even as she questioned his teachings and was horrified to discover he was “marrying” underage girls. As Bateman gained control over her family—eventually marrying several of Makelle’s sisters and one of her mothers—Makelle continued resisting him and secretly shared information that ultimately exposed what was happening inside the group.

    Click here to watch on YouTube

    Watch our interview with Nomz

    Our interview with Dr. Christine Katas

    Follow and support Makelle!

    IG: https://www.instagram.com/16_makelle/

    TT: https://www.tiktok.com/@16makelle

    Our Costa Rica Vacation has sold out! Join our waitlist in case of any cancellations

    Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel!

    Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast.

    Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here!

    Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness

    Venmo @sheliseann

    Find us on Social media!

    Instagram @cultstoconsciousness

    Host Instagram @sheliseann

    Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_

    TikTok @cults.to.consciousness

    Twitter @cultstocon

    **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.**

    See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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