Zodiac Speaking

Introducing AbJack Insider Aug 28, 2023

AbJack Entertainment, the true crime network that brings you Zodiac Speaking and several other true crime podcasts, would like to introduce you to AbJack Insider through Apple Podcasts.
What is AbJack Insider? It's a value-based subscription that gives listeners VIP access to not only Zodiac Speaking, but to every other show on the AbJack network. You’ll get things like early episodes, bonus content, and AD-FREE listening. Every episode of every show on AbJack published in August, 2023 and after, will be AD-FREE with an AbJack Insider subscription. In addition, several shows on the network already have completely AD-FREE and bonus content published in the AbJack Insider APP, and more and more previously published episodes will be added to the AD-FREE lineup.
Every episode of Zodiac Speaking is already available to listen to ad-free. You’ll get access to exclusive content not available without a subscription, and in some cases, episodes in advance of their publish date giving AbJack Insiders the first chance at hearing new material.
Your subscription will get you VIP access to every podcast on the network, and any new shows added to the network, for one low price of $4.99 per month, or $49.99 per year. You can also start off with a free trial subscription to see if it’s for you. Simply visit our channel page on Apple Podcasts to get started.
AbJack Entertainment is dedicated to bringing you the best in Indie true crime podcasts, and your support with an AbJack Insider subscription will support the network, and all of the hosts who are focused on continuing to bring you all of the great content you’re looking for. On behalf of the AbJack network, its shows, and hosts, thank you for your support.
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The State of DNA in the Zodiac case Aug 11, 2023

Episode 38 The State of DNA in the Zodiac case
In this episode, Mike Morford discusses the state of DNA in the Zodiac case with DNA analyst and Lab Director of Pure Gold Forensics, Suzanna Ryan. Mike & Suzanna review the evidence in both confirmed and possible Zodiac crimes, and what clues any DNA left behind by the killer(s) may help solve the case(s) once and for all. Suzanna compares the most modern DNA examination techniques to those that were available to investigators even just a decade ago. Can evidene be re-examined for clues that weren't found previously; clues that may one day ID the Zodiac? Suzanna's insights may surprise listeners causing them to re-evaluate what they thought they knew about the confirmed and possible Zodiac crimes.
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https://zodiackiller.net/
And Richard Grinell's Zodiac site at:
https://www.zodiacciphers.com/
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My Suspect Mac Part 2 of 2 'Meet The Profilers' Mar 07, 2023

Episode 37 My Suspect Mac Part 2 of 2 'Meet The Profilers'
In this episode you will hear from Geoprofiler, Douglas MacGregor & Criminologist Dr. Lee Mellor, to see how suspect 'Mac' stacks up against their profiles of the Zodiac Killer.
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https://www.zodiacciphers.com/
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My Suspect Mac Part 1 of 2 'Meet Mac' Mar 07, 2023

Episode 37 My Suspect Mac Part 1 of 2 'Meet Mac'
In part 1 of this 2 part episode, co-host Mike Morford introduces you to his pet suspect 'Mac'; William McDuff Andrew.
Mike discusses how he developed Mac as a POI, and why he was confident enough to go on record saying that he believes with 100% certainty that Mac was the Zodiac Killer. In Part 2 of this episode, you'll hear from Criminologist Dr. Lee Mellor, and Geoprofiler, Douglas MacGregor to see how Mac stacks up against their profiles of the Zodiac.
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https://zodiackiller.net/
And Richard Grinell's Zodiac site at:
https://www.zodiacciphers.com/
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Introducing Campus Killings From AbJack Entertainment Sep 17, 2022

Introducing Campus Killings From AbJack Entertainment
AbJack Entertainment, the network that brings you Zodiac Speaking, is proud to announce a new podcast; Campus Killings, a Bi-Weekly true crime podcast that debuts on September 17, 2022, and releases new episodes every other Saturday.
Campus Killings is hosted by Dr. Meghan Sacks and Dr. Amy Shlosberg (Women & Crime, and Direct Appeal podcasts). In each episode, Meghan and Amy dive into some of the most shocking and tragic murders to happen on school grounds, and provide their analysis as both Educators and trained Criminologists. They discuss what went wrong, and what could have been done differently to prevent the tragic outcome.
As criminologists, Meghan and Amy teach, research, write and podcast about victims, offenders and the issues surrounding our criminal justice system-and each have over 20 years of experience working in the system in various capacities such as law enforcement, mental health and offender reentry.
Campus Killings is researched and written by Jessica Bettencourt (DNA: ID, and Missing Persons podcasts)
It’s produced by Mike Morford of AbJack Entertainment (Criminology, and The Murder in My Family podcasts)
This preview includes a snippet of Episode 1 of Campus Killings covering the case of Jeanne Clery who was murdered at Lehigh University in April, 1986. The full episode is out right now.
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Zodiac Speaking Q&A Aug 20, 2022

Episode 36 Zodiac Speaking Q&A
As the show heads to hiatus, Mike and Rich discuss the questions, theories, and ideas submitted by listeners of the show covering many of the topics covered in the first 35 episodes of the podcast, and the Zodiac case overall.
Although Zodiac Speaking is going on hiatus, be sure to stay subscribed for more Zodiac and true crime content. Mike will be releasing an in depth episode about his suspect 'Mac' and we will cover any new or breaking developments in the Zodiac case.
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https://zodiackiller.net/
And Richard Grinell's Zodiac site at:
https://www.zodiacciphers.com/
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Introducing; Pretend A True Crime Documentary Podcast Aug 11, 2022

Introducing; Pretend A True Crime Documentary Podcast
From Javier Leiva's newest season of Pretend;
What if I told you that 90% of Frank Abagnale's claims are totally made up? Yeah, that's right. The most extraordinary con man in the world never actually did the crimes he claims he did. In the new season of PRETEND, host Javier Leiva debunks Frank Abagnale’s claims one by one, not with opinions but with court and prison records. This series also gives voice to new victim testimonies. In the end, Leiva travels to Las Vegas to confront Abagnale about his lies. This is the real-life Catch Me If You Can. Listen to Pretend on your favorite podcast app, and check out Javier's home page
https://pretendradio.org/
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The Daniel Williams Attack and The Pines Card Aug 06, 2022

Episode 35 The Daniel Williams Attack and The Pines Card
In this episode, we discuss two lingering but interesting cases in which the Zodiac may be involved, or at the very least, wanted people to think he was involved in; the November 1969 attempted poisoning of teacher Daniel Williams in Contra Costa County, and the September, 1970 disappearance of Donna Lass in Lake Tahoe. Threatening notes and calls may link the 2 cases, but was Zodiac responsible?
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https://zodiackiller.net/
And Richard Grinell's Zodiac site at:
https://www.zodiacciphers.com/
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The July 31st 1969 Letters Jul 23, 2022

Episode 34 The July 31st 1969 Letters
In this episode, Mike and Rich examine the Zodiac's July 31, 1969 communications for clues about the killer, his inspiration for the letters, and his M.O.
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https://zodiackiller.net/
And Richard Grinell's Zodiac site at:
https://www.zodiacciphers.com/
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Movies and Media Jul 09, 2022

Episode 33 Movies and Media
In this episode, Mike and Rich discuss the various movies and media referenced by the Zodiac, or associated with him in an effort to determine if they can give us any clues to his identity.
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https://zodiackiller.net/
And Richard Grinell's Zodiac site at:
https://www.zodiacciphers.com/
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Introducing: Citizen Detective from AbJack Entertainment Jun 20, 2022

Introducing: Citizen Detective from AbJack Entertainment
Citizen Detective is a new true crime podcast from AbJack Entertainment, the same network that brings you The Murder in My Family, Missing Persons, DNA: ID, Scene of the Crime, and Zodiac Speaking.
Citizen Detective is hosted by Mike Morford (Criminology Podcast, The Murder in My Family) Naama Kates (Incel Podcast), and Dr. Lee Mellor (Murder was the case)
Each episode is recorded live alongside Citizen Detectives at home who share their theories, ideas, etc with us for each case we discuss. Citizen Detective is out now with episode 1 covering the May, 2014 murders of Russell and Shirley Dermond in Putnam County, Georgia.
You can listen to episode 1 of Citizen Detective right now.
https://www.spreaker.com/show/citizen-detective
To get more details on how to join the Citizen Detective team as we record live, visit the following social media pages:
Twitter-
https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod
Facebook Homepage-
https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast
Facebook group discussion-
https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915
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The Murder of Robert Salem Jun 18, 2022

Episode 32 The Murder of Robert Salem
In April, 1970, 40 year old lamp designer Robert Salem was murdered and mutilated in his San Francisco home. Written in the wall were the words 'Satan Saves' and 'Zodiac'. But was the Zodiac killer responsible for this murder, or was another killer hoping to steal some of the attention away from the real Zodiac? We discuss the Salem case as and how his murder may fit into the Zodiac mystery, as well as some other crimes that closely mirror the Salem murder including the Lipstick Killer.
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https://zodiackiller.net/
And Richard Grinell's Zodiac site at:
https://www.zodiacciphers.com/
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Eyewitness Descriptions Jun 04, 2022

Episode 31 Eyewitness Descriptions
In 1969, a handful of people had confirmed or possible sightings of the Zodiac Killer, or heard his voice. In this episode, Rich and Mike discuss the various statements of witnesses in an effort to try and get a true sense of Zodiac's physical description and approximate age.
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https://zodiackiller.net/
And Richard Grinell's Zodiac site at:
https://www.zodiacciphers.com/
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Introducing; Foul Play, Making a Predator May 27, 2022

Introducing; Foul Play, Making a Predator
This is Episode 1 of 4 on the newest season of Foul Play called Making a Predator. Our story begins with a man walking into a movie theater in Noblesville, Indiana – 22-year-old Brent Allred.
Brent is shy, self-effacing, and a junior at nearby Ball State University. He’s meeting a woman here, or rather a girl, for the very first time. They’ve been talking for six months now, and today he’s wearing the appropriate amount of overpriced cologne, a button-down shirt, black leather shoes, and he’s holding a pair of movie tickets for the two of them that he bought in advance for this day
Listen to Foul Play, Making a Predator on your favorite podcast app, or find it here:
https://link.chtbl.com/foulplay
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The Murder At Washington Street May 21, 2022

Episode 30 The Murder At Washington Street
In this episode, Mike & Rich explore the Paul Stine murder and the area around the crime scene to get a better idea of what Zodiac was thinking when he killed cab driver Paul Stine in the Presidio Heights section of San Francisco on October 11, 1969.
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https://zodiackiller.net/
And Richard Grinell's Zodiac site at:
https://www.zodiacciphers.com/
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Creating the Zodiac Apr 23, 2022

Episode 29 Creating the Zodiac
In this episode, Mike and Rich explore whether there is any possibility of the Zodiac's backstory being tied to the Albany Pigeon Boy, the mysterious 'Sandy', or Big bad Zode from Pacific High School.
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https://zodiackiller.net/
And Richard Grinell's Zodiac site at:
https://www.zodiacciphers.com/
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The Sunol Park and Belmont Murders Apr 09, 2022

Episode 28 The Sunol Park and Belmont Murders
In this episode, Mike & Rich discuss two bay area murders with some similarities to confirmed Zodiac murders, but also with some key differences; the June 1967 murders of Enedine Molina and Fermin Rodriguez at Sunol Regional Park in Alameda County, and the November 1975 murder of Anthony Vincent Bruno Jr in Belmont, San Mateo County. All three victims died after a gunman attacked them on secluded lover's lane type areas. Their cases remain unsolved.
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A Deep Dive into Lake Herman Road Mar 26, 2022

Episode 27 A Deep Dive into Lake Herman Road
In this episode, Mike and Rich dive deep into the Zodiac's first canonical crime; the 12/20/68 murders of David Faraday and Betty Lou Jensen on Lake Herman Road on the outskirts of Vallejo. They discuss some of the unanswered questions, and explore theories connected to the shooting and the crime scene.
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The Sacramento Freeway Murders Mar 12, 2022

Episode 26 The Sacramento Freeway Murders
In this episode. we explore whether or not the April, 1986 murders of Koy Ien Saechao and Choy Fow Saelee in a hail of bullets along a Sacramento area freeway, and a subsequent letter,were the work of the Zodiac. Both the attack, and the letter came very soon after the release of Robert Graysmith's best selling book, 'Zodiac'
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Three Outlier Letters Feb 26, 2022

Episode 25 Three Outlier Letters
Mike and Rich discuss 3 outlier letters mentioned over the years in relation to the Zodiac case, and examine if any of them may really be from Zodiac, and if so, might they point the way to other Zodiac victims?
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https://zodiackiller.net/
And Richard Grinell's Zodiac site at:
https://www.zodiacciphers.com
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The Eureka Card Feb 12, 2022

Episode 24 The Eureka Card
In December, 1990, a greeting card with a snow man on the cover was mailed from Eureka, CA to the editor of the SF Chronicle. Inside was a photocopy of 2 keys attached to what appears to be a penlight. For some reason, the card was put on a shelf and forgotten for years until the 2007 movie, Zodiac was released. The movie prompted SF Chronicle staff to look at all of the stuff that they had received over the years that might be related to the case. That's when they discovered the 1990 Eureka card that had been stored away years earlier, and it turns out that they may have been in possession of a correspondence from the Zodiac Killer for years. The find led to many questions, a potential suspect, and debate as to whether the card was really from Zodiac. Mike & Rich discuss all of that in this episode
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https://zodiackiller.net/
And Richard Grinell's Zodiac site at:
https://www.zodiacciphers.com
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The 340 Cipher and Beyond Jan 29, 2022

Episode 23 The 340 Cipher and Beyond
In this episode, Mike & Rich discuss various aspects of the Zodiac's codes, and what possibly inspired him when constructing them, and why there appear to be some differences between the construction of his ciphers
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https://zodiackiller.net/
And Richard Grinell's Zodiac site at:
https://www.zodiacciphers.com
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Zodiac's Origins Jan 15, 2022

Episode 22 Zodiac's Origins
In the first episode of 2022, Mike & Rich explore the possibility that Zodiac can be identified if his true origins can be discovered, including letters that Zodiac may have written before and after his Zodiac letters. as well as letters from other states. We also touch on the possiblilty that any of Zodiac's letters include DNA which could also lead to him being identified.
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https://zodiackiller.net/
And Richard Grinell's Zodiac site at:
https://www.zodiacciphers.com
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Deep dive into the Donna Lass case Dec 18, 2021

Episode 21 Deep dive into the Donna Lass case
In this episode, we hear from Joanne Goettsche, the roommate of possible Zodiac victim, Donna Lass. She clears up some of the murky details regarding the time around when Donna vanished, and helps us get to know Donna a bit better. We also discuss a report that was created by a private investigator hired by Donna's family. Both the interview with Joanne, and the report help to clear some things up, but they also don't always line up with each other, leading to more questions.
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You can view this report on Mike's site:
https://zodiackiller.net/community/donna-lass-9-6-70/private-investigator-report-in-the-lass-case/#post-87843
Or on Rich's site:
https://www.zodiacciphers.com/zodiac-news/the-private-investigators-report-into-the-missing-donna-lass
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The Search for DNA Dec 04, 2021

Episode 20 The Search for DNA
In this episode, Mike and Rich give a brief overview of how DNA has helped answer questions in older cases and whether it can help solve the Zodiac Killer mystery. We also explore what investigators may now be doing behind the scenes in the Zodiac case to identify the killer using his DNA
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https://zodiackiller.net/
And Richard Grinell's Zodiac site at:
https://www.zodiacciphers.com
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Geographic Profiling Nov 20, 2021

Episode 19 Geographic Profiling
In this episode, Rich & Mike discuss geographic profiling in the Zodiac case, and whether or not it may be a useful tool in determining where the Zodiac may have resided.
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https://zodiackiller.net/
And Richard Grinell's Zodiac site at:
https://www.zodiacciphers.com
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Introducing Beyond Bizarre True Crime from AbJack Entertainment Nov 08, 2021

Introducing Beyond Bizarre True Crime from AbJack Entertainment
Beyond Bizarre True Crime is a brand-new weekly podcast from AbJack Entertainment with a new host, or hosts from the world of true crime podcasts in every episode.
Each host will bring their own personality to the case they present, and will lay out the details in their own style- all in less than 30 minutes, so you can get your true crime fill, and get on with your day. Episode 1 hosted by Nic & the Captain from True Crime Garage, and Episode 2 hosted by Emily Thompson from Morbidology are available right now everywhere you listen to podcasts. New episodes air every Saturday.
Find Beyond Bizarre True Crime on social media via the following links:
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The 'Poste' Mortem Nov 06, 2021

Episode 18 The 'Poste' Mortem
Mike & Rich break down and discuss the shortcomings of the newest Zodiac suspect to make waves in the media, Gary Francis Poste. Learn how and why the 'The Case Breakers', the team that presented Poste as a suspect is flawed in their findings.
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The Early 1960's Oct 23, 2021

Episode 17 The Early 1960's
In this episode, Morf and Rich examine a series of unsolved ealry 1960's murders in Southern California that have strong similaritities to the later Zodiac murders in the SF Bay area. Are the crimes related? The crimes include, the April 1962 murder of cab driver Ray Davis in Oceanside, the June 1963 murders of high school students Robert Domingos and Linda Edwards in Santa Barbara County, and the February 1964 murders of newlyweds Joyce and Johnny Swindle in San Diego.
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Q&A Part 2 Oct 09, 2021

Episode 16 Q&A Part 2
In this episode, the second of two parts, Morf & Rich respond to Zodiac related questions presented by listeners and followers on social media.
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Q&A Part 1 Sep 25, 2021

Episode 15 Q&A Part 1
In this episode, the first of two parts, Morf & Rich respond to Zodiac related questions presented by listeners and followers on social media.
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Cheri Jo Bates Part 2 Sep 11, 2021

Episode 14 Cheri Jo Bates Part 2
In this episode, we wrap up our examination of the Riverside, California murder of Cheri Jo Bates on October 30, 1966.
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Cheri Jo Bates Part 1 Aug 21, 2021

Episode 13 Cheri Jo Bates Part 1
On November 16th, 1970, SF Chronicle reporter Paul Avery ran an article in the newspaper linking the Zodiac to the October 30, 1966 murder of 18 year-old Cheri Jo Bates in Riverside, CA over 400 miles South. Although he stayed silent at first, the Bay area serial killer finally admitted to being responsible for Cheri's murder and credited police for stumbling onto his 'Riverside Activity'. But was the Zodiac actually involved in Cheri's murder? We explore the Bates case and possible Zodiac connection in this first of two parts
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1978 to 2001 Aug 07, 2021

Episode 12 1978 to 2001
Although the Zodiac's last official confirmed letter was mailed in 1974, from 1978-2001, a steady flow of unconfirmed, and possibly hoaxed letters continued to come in. Crimes that bore a similar MO to the serial killer were often blamed on him.
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1974 Jul 24, 2021

Episode 11 1974
In January, 1974, the Zodiac Killer broke his silence of almost 3 years mailing several new letters in the SF Bay area before his last known confirmed letter in July of that year. During his absence, people wondered and theorized about what might have happened to the bay area killer to make him go silent. Once he returned, it wasn't long before other bay area crimes were pinned on him.
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The Year 1971 Jul 03, 2021

Episode 10 The Year 1971
1971 was a change of pace for the Zodiac case as the Bay area's confirmed letters wound down in the SF Bay area, opening up the possibility that he was lying low, or perhaps had moved on to another area.
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The Mystery of the Missing Nurse Jun 19, 2021

Episode 9 The Mystery of the Missing Nurse
On September 6th, 1970, well over 100 miles North East of Zodiac's stomping grounds, 25 year old South Lake Tahoe nurse, Donna Lass went to work her shift at the Sahara Hotel-Casino just a few miles away. During her overnight shift at the casino, Donna Lass vanished. The next day, an unidentified man called Donna's landlord, and her employer to let them know that Donna had gone home to SD for a family emergency, but the call turned out to be a hoax, and Donna Lass has never been seen again. It wasn't long before a possible Zodiac correspondence was mailed hinting at responsibility for Donna's disappearance. In this episode, we discuss the Donna Lass case, as well as other suspicious, and possible Zodiac activity around the same timeframe.
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Mount Diablo, The Mikado, and more Mysterious Mailings Jun 05, 2021

Episode 8 Mount Diablo, The Mikado, and more Mysterious Mailings
Throughout 1970, the Zodiac continued to mail taunting letters, notes, and codes- some of it referenced Mount Diablo, and the Gilbert & Sullivan production, The Mikado. Meanwhile, in the SF Bay area and beyond, multiple letters and threats, though unconfirmed to be Zodiac, were quickly attributed to him.
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The Spring of 1970 May 22, 2021

Episode 7 The Spring of 1970
The Spring of 1970 was a busy one for Zodiac, or at least it may have been. With the possible March abduction of a young Mother named Kathleen Johns and her daughter in Stanislaus County, as well as the sadistic April murder of lamp designer Robert Salem in San Francisco, the police were kept busy. Capping it off was a 13 character cipher from Zodiac that has yet to be solved to this day.
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December 1969 May 08, 2021

Episode 6 'December 1969'
In December, 1969, a flurry of confirmed and unconfirmed Zodiac correspondences, in both California, and beyond, came in. Some of them seemed to link to the mysterious death of 16 year-old Leona Roberts. 50+ years later, we are still trying to figure out if all of these correspondences in December, 1969, can be directly attributed to the Zodiac Killer.
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A Bus Bomb and Poison Apr 24, 2021

Episode 5 A Bus Bomb and Poison
Following Zodiac's last confirmed murder of Paul Stine, he promised to terrorize the SF Bay area using various methods and making the crimes he committed seem random. He threated to use a bomb, but never carried out his threat. However, other possible crimes in the Bay area may have been the work of Zodiac, such as the stalking and attempted poisoning of school teacher Daniel Williams in Contra Costa County.
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Presidio Heights Apr 10, 2021

Episode 4 Presidio Heights
In early October 1969, the city of San Francisco remained untouched by the Zodiac Killer's attacks to the North East of them in Solano and Napa Counties. That would all change on October 11th of that year when a cab driver named Paul Stine was murdered in his cab in the prestigious Presidio Heights section of the city. At first glance, it appears as if the dead cabbie found at the corner of Washington & Cherry Streets, was the victim of a robbery gone wrong. It wouldn't take long for the Zodiac to take responsibility for the murder going as far as to provide proof of his involvement, and sending the residents of San Francisco into a panic.
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Lake Berryessa Mar 27, 2021

Episode 3 Lake Berryessa
On September 27th, 1969, college students Bryan Hartnell, 20, and Cecelia Shepard, 22 made a spur of the moment decision to head to peaceful, and private Lake Berryessa in Napa County. They made their way down to the edge of the lake and spread out a blanket to relax on. But their get away was soon interrupted by a hooded attacker who brutally stabbed the young couple before making his escape. Bryan was able to survive his injuries but unfortunately, Cecelia died two days later. It didn't take authorities long to determine that the pair had been attacked by the Zodiac, who had moved on from the Vallejo area.
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Blue Rock Springs Mar 13, 2021

Episode 2 Blue Rock Springs
Just over six months after a double murder rocked the city of Vallejo, CA, another attack only 2 miles away from the first would spoil Independence Day celebrations. 22 Year-old Darlene Ferrin, and 19 Year-Old Michael Mageau were shot without warning as they sat in their car at Blue Rock Springs Park on the outskirts of Vallejo. Before police realized what happened, they received a call from someone claiming to be the killer. Less than a month later, they would receive a 3 part cipher, and letters in the mail from the killer; a killer that would give himself the moniker, 'Zodiac'
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Lake Herman Road Mar 13, 2021

Episode 1 Lake Herman Road
On December 20th, 1968, a young couple out on their first date; 17 year-old David Faraday and 16 year old Betty Lou Jensen, were shot to death along Lake Herman Road on the outskirts of Vallejo, CA. Police looked at people that may have been jealous of the young couple, or may have had a gripe with David, but those avenues of investigation led nowhere. The double murders of the teenagers shocked the community, and it wouldn't be until eight months later when another Vallejo couple was attacked, that the city realized that they had a maniac on the loose. Soon the SF Bay area would come to know this maniac as the Zodiac Killer.
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Welcome to Zodiac Speaking Feb 22, 2021

Zodiac Speaking is a new True Crime Podcast from AbJack Entertainment that explores in depth, the mystery of the Zodiac Killer case.
In every episode, Zodiac case experts Mike Morford and Richard Grinell explore various aspects of one of America's most infamous unsolved mysteries.
New episodes air every other Saturday beginning on March 13, 2021.
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