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    Working People

    Working People: A podcast by, for, and about the working class today (now in partnership with In These Times magazine and The Real News Network).

    Working People is a podcast about working-class lives in 21st-century America. In every episode, you’ll hear interviews with workers from around the country, from all walks of life. We’ll talk about their life stories, their jobs, politics, and families, their joys and hopes and frustrations. Overall, Working People aims to share and celebrate the diverse stories of working-class people, to remind ourselves that our stories matter, and to build a sense of shared struggle and solidarity between workers around the country.

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    Latest Episodes:
    Starbucks Workers United (w/ Brian Murray & Jordan Chariton) Dec 09, 2021
    Show notes

    Starbucks is the world's largest coffeehouse chain and one of the most recognizable consumer brands in existence. In the US alone, Starbucks has nearly 9,000 corporate-owned stores, and not a single one of them is unionized ... but that may be about to change. After leading an organizing campaign during the COVID-19 pandemic and facing tireless efforts by the company to delay, deflate, and defeat union elections with the National Labor Relations Board, workers at three Starbucks locations in Buffalo, New York, have submitted their ballots, which are being counted as we speak. In this mini-cast, we talk with Brian Murray, one of the Buffalo workers and organizers with SBWorkers United, and journalist Jordan Chariton, who recently traveled to Buffalo to speak with Starbucks workers and report on their fight for Status Coup.

    Additional links/info below...

    • SBWorkers United website, Twitter page, and Instagram
    • GoFundMe: Starbucks Retaliates Against Whistleblower
    • Jordan's Twitter page
    • Status Coup website, Twitter page, and YouTube channel
    • Sean Collins, Strikewave, ""It's about having a democratic voice in Starbucks." Interview with Brian Murray of SBWorkersUnited"
    • Noam Scheiber, The New York Times, "As Starbucks Workers Seek a Union, Company Officials Converge on Stores"
    • Ahiza García-Hodges, NBC News, "Former Starbucks CEO Uses Holocaust Analogy to Describe Coffee Company's Mission"

    Permanent links below...

    • Working People Patreon page
    • Leave us a voicemail and we might play it on the show!
    • Labor Radio / Podcast Network website, Facebook page, and Twitter page
    • In These Times website, Facebook page, and Twitter page
    • The Real News Network website, YouTube channel, podcast feeds, Facebook page, and Twitter page

    Featured Music (all songs sourced from the Free Music Archive: freemusicarchive.org)

    • Jules Taylor, "Working People Theme Song"

    Columbia Is Still a Bully (w/ Joanna Lee, Tamara Hache, & Caroline Smith) Nov 30, 2021
    Show notes

    Back in the spring, we spoke with three graduate student workers at Columbia University who were on strike with other members of the Student Workers of Columbia union, UAW Local 2110. After rank-and-file members rejected the tentative agreement between the university and the bargaining committee, negotiations continued, but Columbia has still failed to meet key demands, including better wages, dental and vision healthcare coverage, and third-party arbitration for cases involving harassment and discrimination. Now, Student Workers of Columbia are back on strike and have been on the picket line since November 3. In this mini-cast, we talk with three graduate student workers, Joanna Lee, Tamara Hache, and Caroline Smith, about the strike and how academic workers are an essential part of the labor movement.

    Additional links/info below...

    • Student Workers of Columbia, UAW Local 2110 website, Facebook page, and Twitter page
    • Hardship Fund for Columbia Student Workers #CUonStrike
    • Working People, "Mini-cast: Columbia Is a Bully (w/ Joanna Lee, Harlan Chambers, & Cameron Foltz)"
    • Joanna's Twitter page
    • Tamara's Twitter page
    • Caroline's Twitter page
    • Ashley Wong, The New York Times, "Why Columbia Student Workers Are Back On Strike"
    • Rachel Himes, Jacobin, "Why Columbia Graduate Workers Like Me Are on Strike"

    Permanent links below...

    • Working People Patreon page
    • Leave us a voicemail and we might play it on the show!
    • Labor Radio / Podcast Network website, Facebook page, and Twitter page
    • In These Times website, Facebook page, and Twitter page
    • The Real News Network website, YouTube channel, podcast feeds, Facebook page, and Twitter page

    Featured Music (all songs sourced from the Free Music Archive: freemusicarchive.org)

    • Jules Taylor, "Working People Theme Song"

    Fiction is a beautiful weapon in the class war - we should use it (w/ Sarah Lazare) Nov 23, 2021
    Show notes

    What role does fiction have to play in the class struggle? Should the left be making a stronger case for the political importance of reading literature? In this special Working People episode, which has been months in the making, TRNN Editor-in-Chief Maximillian Alvarez talks with writer and editor Sarah Lazare about her novel Testimony, which she co-authored with her late father, Peter Lazare. Testimony is a leftist crime thriller that takes place in Springfield, Illinois, at the height of the "war on terror" panic in the wake of the 9/11 attacks. It is also a deeply moving story about trust, commitment to everyday people, and fighting the corrupt, self-serving, and nefarious forces that weaponize fear for their own gain.

    As the back cover of the book describes, "Testimony isn't about One Great Man taking on the system, but about one okay, flawed person working with a rag-tag team of other okay, flawed people to combat a system of cynicism and greed much bigger than them." In this deep and wide-ranging conversation, Alvarez talks with Lazare about the book itself, about her father and the long process of getting the book ready for publication, and about the important role genre fiction has to play in our collective fight for a better world. This episode also features segments of dramatic readings from Testimony performed by Alvarez, Lazare, and friends of the show Adam Johnson (Citations Needed) and Mel Buer (Morning Riot). And a special thanks to Working People producer Jules Taylor for all his hard work editing the episode!

    Additional links/info below…

    • Sarah's In These Times author page and Twitter page
    • Sarah Lazare & Peter Lazare, Strong Arm Press, Testimony
    • Strong Arm Press, Book Launch Event: "Why the Left Should Engage Fiction: A Conversation With Radical Thriller and Mystery Writers"
    • Mel Buer Twitter page and Patreon
    • Morning Riot podcast Twitter page
    • Adam Johnson Twitter page and Substack
    • Citations Needed Twitter page and Patreon

    Featured Music (all songs sourced from the Free Music Archive at freemusicarchive.org): Jules Taylor, "Working People Theme Song"


    (Unlocked) BONUS EPISODE - A Pivotal Moment for the Teamsters (w/ Indigo Olivier) Nov 18, 2021
    Show notes

    The International Brotherhood of Teamsters is having a pivotal leadership election right now, and the results will set the future course for one of the most storied unions in existence. This election officially marks the end of the Hoffa era as James P. Hoffa, son of Jimmy Hoffa, is retiring as Teamsters General President. Members have cast their votes for who they want to head the union in the new era, and the ballots are being counted as we speak. We will be bringing you a rank-and-file breakdown of the election in the coming weeks, but for now we are releasing one of our recent bonus episodes on the public feed so listeners can have some context and understand the importance of this election. In this episode, we talk with journalist Indigo Olivier about the Teamsters leadership election and the 46th annual Teamsters for a Democratic Union (TDU) convention, which was held in Chicago on October 1-3. Olivier is a 2020–2021 fellow with In These Times' Leonard C. Goodman Institute for Investigative Reporting and her writing has been featured at outlets like Jacobin, In These Times, and The Nation. She is also a member of NYC-DSA.

    Additional links/info below...

    • Indigo's Twitter page
    • Indigo's author page at In These Times
    • Indigo Olivier, Jacobin, "Teamster Rank-and-File Reformers Are Making a Bid for Union Leadership"
    • Working People, "The Teamsters Have Entered the Chat (w/ Joe Allen)"
    • Ryan Haney, Labor Notes, "Teamster Insurgents Plan for a Win—And What Comes After"
    • Andy Sernatinger, In These Times, "Hoffa's House Divided: The 2021 Teamster Election, Explained"
    • International Brotherhood of Teamsters Election Results

    Permanent links below...

    • Working People Patreon page
    • Leave us a voicemail and we might play it on the show!
    • Labor Radio / Podcast Network website, Facebook page, and Twitter page
    • In These Times website, Facebook page, and Twitter page
    • The Real News Network website, YouTube channel, podcast feeds, Facebook page, and Twitter page

    Featured Music (all songs sourced from the Free Music Archive: freemusicarchive.org)

    • Jules Taylor, "Working People Theme Song"

    35,000 Kaiser Permanente Workers Are Set to Strike (w/ Hannah Winchester & Nick Eng) Nov 10, 2021
    Show notes

    35,000 members of the Alliance of Health Care Unions, a coalition of 21 local unions representing over 52,000 workers at the healthcare giant Kaiser Permanente in states around the country, have set a strike date. Unless the company addresses the serious issues that workers have raised at the bargaining table, Kaiser workers will walk off the job on Nov. 15, and thousands more may join in what could become one of the largest strikes ever in the healthcare sector. The core issues that led to the potential strike not only involve adequate compensation for union workers, but also the dire concerns about healthcare workers being grossly overworked and under-resourced, as well as two-tier employment and the struggle to draw in and retain trained staff. On top of the essential concerns that directly impact the jobs and livelihoods of healthcare workers, the outcome of this high-stakes labor struggle will have huge implications for the future of healthcare in the US as we know it.

    In this special edition of Working People, TRNN Editor-in-Chief Maximillian Alvarez speaks with two Kaiser workers, Hannah Winchester, DPT, and Nicholas Eng, RNFA, about the work that they do, the changes they've experienced in the healthcare system, and the dire conditions that have led to a potential strike. Hannah Winchester is a home health physical therapist by trade; she is also her department's Labor Partner, a shop steward, and a member of the bargaining team for the Oregon Federation of Nurses and Health Professionals (OFNHP) Professional Bargaining Unit. Nicholas Eng has been a nurse for nearly 10 years; he is also an OFNHP shop steward and is currently on release for OFNHP to be present for contract bargaining and to help with organizing union members and actions, including strike planning.

    Additional links/info below…

    • The Alliance of Health Care Unions website, Facebook page, and Twitter page
    • Oregon Federation of Nurses and Health Professionals website, Facebook page, Twitter page, and Instagram
    • OFNHP Cares – Member Hardship Relief Fund
    • Noah Lanard, Mother Jones, ""You Are Worth More": Kaiser Permanente Workers Are on the Verge of a Historic Strike"
    • Dave Muoio, Fierce Healthcare, "Nearly 32,000 Kaiser Permanente Workers Set to Strike Nov. 15. Tens of Thousands More Mulling Their Own Demonstrations"

    Working People, The Real News Network, "A Small-Town Hospital Goes After Its Union Nurses"

    Permanent links below...

    • Working People Patreon page
    • Leave us a voicemail and we might play it on the show!
    • Labor Radio / Podcast Network website, Facebook page, and Twitter page
    • In These Times website, Facebook page, and Twitter page
    • The Real News Network website, YouTube channel, podcast feeds, Facebook page, and Twitter page

    Featured Music (all songs sourced from the Free Music Archive: freemusicarchive.org)

    • Jules Taylor, "Working People Theme Song"

    Michael Francis McCarthy Nov 09, 2021
    Show notes

    In this special episode, Working People producer Jules Taylor (@realjulestaylor) speaks with working musician and farm laborer Michael Francis McCarthy. Jules and Michael have known each other for a few years, having met during an event in Woodstock, NY where Michael was performing. Michael paints a sobering picture of what earning a living by working as a singer/songwriter looks like.

    Unlock the video for this episode here: Patreon

    About Michael Francis McCarthy - Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, Bandcamp

    Additional links/info below…

    • Blake Morgan, The Hill, "American middle-class musicians are worth fighting for"
    • John W. Barry, The Poughkeepsie Journal, "Coronavirus: With arts and entertainment shuttered, can derailed industry recover?"

    Permanent links below...

    • Working People Patreon page
    • Leave us a voicemail and we might play it on the show!
    • Labor Radio / Podcast Network website, Facebook page, and Twitter page
    • In These Times website, Facebook page, and Twitter page
    • The Real News Network website, YouTube channel, podcast feeds, Facebook page, and Twitter page

    Featured Music (all songs sourced from the Free Music Archive: freemusicarchive.org)

    • Jules Taylor, "Working People Theme Song"
    • Michael Francis McCarthy, "Goodnight, Toll Collector"

    We're All We've Got (w/ Adam Johnson, Luis Feliz Leon, Brian "BZ" Douglas, & Jules Taylor) Oct 29, 2021
    Show notes

    We hosted our first ever Working People livestream this week! We got to chat with some special friends about Spooky Season and #Striketober, and we had a sprawling, heartfelt discussion about solidarity and togetherness. This was a special event we put on for an important cause: to raise money for our amazing producer Jules and his family so they can cover the costs of his mom's dialysis treatments. If you missed the livestream, we hope you enjoy this edited audio version of our conversation (check out our YouTube page to watch the video version). The fundraiser is still going, so please donate what you can and help us spread the word. Thank you for all your love and support!

    Additional links/info below...

    • GoFundMe: Help My Mom Through Dialysis
    • Watch the full video version of our livestream on YouTube
    • Jules's Twitter page
    • Brian "BZ" Douglas's Twitter page
    • Adam Johnson's Twitter page
    • Luis Feliz Leon's Twitter page

    Permanent links below...

    • Working People Patreon page
    • Leave us a voicemail and we might play it on the show!
    • Labor Radio / Podcast Network website, Facebook page, and Twitter page
    • In These Times website, Facebook page, and Twitter page
    • The Real News Network website, YouTube channel, podcast feeds, Facebook page, and Twitter page

    Featured Music (all songs sourced from the Free Music Archive: freemusicarchive.org)

    • Jules Taylor, "Working People Theme Song"

    Justin Mayhugh Oct 20, 2021
    Show notes

    A lot of important history is being made right now, and something potentially game-changing is unfolding among the American workforce. At this very moment, 10,000 UAW members at John Deere are on strike in Iowa, Illinois, and Kansas; 35,000 healthcare workers at Kaiser Permanente have authorized a strike; 1,400 workers at cereal giant Kellogg's are on strike in Nebraska, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Tennessee; 1,100 coal miners in Alabama have been on strike since April; 800 nurses in Massachusetts have been on strike since March; and many other strikes and strike authorizations are also unfolding. On top of that, record numbers of US workers are voluntarily quitting their jobs, in what is being called the "Great Resignation." Something is happening here... At the same time, there are crucial struggles happening within the labor movement that we all need to be paying attention to. One of these struggles is taking place within the United Auto Workers itself, where members are currently voting on an unprecedented referendum that will decide whether or not the 400,000 working members and nearly 600,000 retirees can directly elect their top union officers. Ballots went out on October 19 and are due back at the end of November; if the referendum passes, it could be the beginning of a massive shakeup for the union, which many members say needs more democratic governance and more militant energy coming from the rank-and-file. Unite All Workers for Democracy (UAWD), a grassroots caucus of UAW members advocating for direct elections, has been leading the charge for this historic referendum. In this episode, we talk with Justin Mayhugh, who has worked at General Motors in Kansas City for over a decade and is an organizer with the UAWD caucus.

    Additional links/info below...

    • Join us for a special livestream Sunday, Oct. 24, at 7pm EST!
    • Passcode for joining the live Zoom meeting: 047512
    • Working People YouTube channel
    • GoFundMe fundraiser for Jules and his family (please donate!)
    • Working People will be hosting another Listener Hang on Monday, November 15th, 2021 @ 8 PM EST! Here's a link to join the meeting
    • Justin Mayhugh Twitter page
    • Unite All Workers for Democracy (UAWD) Facebook page, Twitter page, and Instagram
    • Jonah Furman, The Real News Network, "A Once-in-a-Generation Chance to Revive the UAW Is Coming"

    Permanent links below...

    • Working People Patreon page
    • Leave us a voicemail and we might play it on the show!
    • Labor Radio / Podcast Network website, Facebook page, and Twitter page
    • In These Times website, Facebook page, and Twitter page
    • The Real News Network website, YouTube channel, podcast feeds, Facebook page, and Twitter page

    Featured Music (all songs sourced from the Free Music Archive: freemusicarchive.org)

    • Jules Taylor, "Working People Theme Song"

    Breakfast of Champions (w/ Dan Osborn) Oct 18, 2021
    Show notes

    Like Frito-Lay, Nabisco, John Deere, and Heaven Hill Distillery, cereal giant Kellogg's has seen consumer demand skyrocket during the pandemic, reporting profits of $1.25 billion in 2020. To meet this demand, many workers in Kellogg's plants around the US report pulling 12-16-hour shifts seven days a week, leaving little time for anything outside of work beyond sleep. But the creation of a two-tier employment system in 2015 has meant that newer employees in the lower "transitional tier" are earning significantly less than their coworkers for doing the same work. Demanding that the company raise the floor for all of its employees, Kellogg's plant workers in Nebraska, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Tennessee have been on strike since Oct. 5. We talk about the ongoing strike with Dan Osborn, who has worked at the Omaha, Nebraska, plant for 18 years and currently serves as president of the Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers International Union (BCTGM), Local 50G.

    Additional links/info below...

    • 5 Ways to Support the #KelloggStrike (includes links to strike funds)
    • BCTGM Local 50G website
    • Mel Buer, The Real News Network, "Kellogg's Strike: Cereal Plant Workers Fight to Raise the Floor for All Employees as Sales Soar"

    Permanent links below...

    • Working People Patreon page
    • Leave us a voicemail and we might play it on the show!
    • Labor Radio / Podcast Network website, Facebook page, and Twitter page
    • In These Times website, Facebook page, and Twitter page
    • The Real News Network website, YouTube channel, podcast feeds, Facebook page, and Twitter page

    Featured Music (all songs sourced from the Free Music Archive: freemusicarchive.org)

    • Jules Taylor, "Working People Theme Song"

    Lisa Doerr Oct 11, 2021
    Show notes

    We conclude our series of interviews from rural Wisconsin with farmers and community members fighting to defend life as they know it from the onslaught of Big Agriculture and the factory farming industry. As part of a special collaboration between The Real News Network and In These Times magazine for "The Wisconsin Idea," Max, Cameron Granadino (TRNN), and Hannah Faris (In These Times) travelled to Polk County in Western Wisconsin over the summer to speak with residents about their fight to halt or, at least, adequately regulate a proposed concentrated animal feeding operation (CAFO) that would house 26,000 hogs and produce millions of gallons of liquid manure every year. In this interview, Max sits down with Lisa Doerr, who has been on the front lines of this struggle and lives right down the road from where the proposed CAFO would be built. Lisa and her husband own and operate a hay farm in Polk County that supplies food for small-scale livestock farmers in the area.

    Additional links/info below...

    • Working People, "Kristy Lynn Allen"
    • Working People, "Hog Wild (w/ Lisa Doerr, Forest Jahnke, Hannah Faris, & Maeve Conran)"
    • Maximillian Alvarez, Cameron Granadino, & Hannah Faris, The Real News Network, "Factory Farms Pose an 'Existential Threat' for Rural Wisconsin Communities"
    • Grace Connatser, Wisconsin State Farmer, "Documentary Captures Rural Wisconsin's Struggle with Hog CAFOs"
    • Maeve Conran, Just Solutions, "Rural Wisconsin Communities Battle Industrial Scale Hog Farms"
    • Simon Davis-Cohen, In These Times, "'In for a Fight': Rural Wisconsinites Resist Influx of Industrial Hog Facilities"

    Permanent links below...

    • Working People Patreon page
    • Leave us a voicemail and we might play it on the show!
    • Labor Radio / Podcast Network website, Facebook page, and Twitter page
    • In These Times website, Facebook page, and Twitter page
    • The Real News Network website, YouTube channel, podcast feeds, Facebook page, and Twitter page

    Featured Music (all songs sourced from the Free Music Archive: freemusicarchive.org)

    • Jules Taylor, "Working People Theme Song"

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