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    Working Drummer

    With 500 episodes and counting, Working Drummer Podcast is the source for those interested in what it’s like to be a professional drummer. Hosted by Matthew Crouse and Zack Albetta, Working Drummer covers it all with a dynamic range of pro drummers who represent many different genres and scenes. Each weekly interview features a different performer, sometimes with a less recognizable name, but always with an impressive and distinct body of work. This unique approach has garnered a loyal audience hungry for unfiltered stories about making a living as a musician today.

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    147 – Ganesh Giri Jaya Pt. 2: The Physicality of Yoga, Studying with Porcaro and Humphrey, Growing Up in New Orleans, Writing Effectively Dec 20, 2017
    Show notes

    Ganesh Giri Jaya was born in New Orleans, moved to Atlanta at age 16, spent his early 20’s in L.A. and Portland, and ultimately returned to Atlanta where he has remained for the past 25 years. His career has usually found him drumming and/or singing in cover and tribute bands of various types. He was one of the original members of Yacht Rock Revue and for the past few years has been the singer, drummer, and leader of its overflow band, Yacht Rock Schooner. Those bands and a few others are under the umbrella of the entertainment company PleaseRock. In his mid 20s, he was introduced to yoga and soon delved deeper into it, beyond the physical practice most of us have done at least once, and into the spiritual, emotional and psychological lessons it has to offer.

    In this podcast, Ganesh talks about:

    How yoga has improved every aspect of his physicality, behind the drums and in daily life

    The hallmarks of a good yoga teacher

    Growing up in New Orleans

    How singing and playing trumpet before taking up drums made him a more sensitive musician

    His approaches to matched vs. traditional grip over the years

    The aspects of New Orleans music that still inform his playing

    Studying with Joe Porcaro and Ralph Humphrey at Musicians Institute, and his brief tenures in L.A. and Portland

    Developing versatility vs. honing your strengths

    His work as a copy editor for Drumhead Magazine, and the principles good writing and good music share

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    146 – Luis Espaillat: Pro Bass Player’s Perspective, Connecting with Drummers Live and in the Studio Dec 13, 2017
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    Luis Espaillat is a multi-faceted bassist and musician whose career has spanned many genres and taken him around the world. His unique sound can be heard in all forms of media from shows on network television such as Smallville and King Of The Hill, major motion pictures including S.W.A.T. and American Wedding and even video games including Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit 2 and Project Gotham Racing.

    In the studio, Luis has recorded with country legends like Michael Martin Murphey to the Billboard Top 20 hard rock sounds of Eve To Adam. His sense and respect for the art of the song itself has made him in demand for many songwriters and producers not only in Nashville, but also Los Angeles and New York City. On the stage, Luis has performed with country stars Trace Adkins, Jamie O’Neal, Jimmy Wayne, Lindsay Ell, Jake Owen, Terri Clark, Pam Tillis, James Otto, Tanya Tucker and Doc Walker, rockers such as Tantric and Bo Bice, progressive instrumentalist like Johnny Hiland, and even artists that defy normal convention such as country rapper Colt Ford, just to name a few.

    A graduate of Berklee College Of Music, Luis also conducts clinics and master classes on the world of studio recording, touring and of course, bass.

    Luis resides in Nashville, TN with his wife, three children and three dogs.

    In this episode, Luis talks about:

    Working with Trace Adkins and balancing touring with sessions

    Playing with a major label signed rock band

    The challenge of making life changing decisions

    The importance of real relationships

    The power of positivity on stage

    The roll he plays in the rhythm section

    Note length from the bass & it’s effect on the groove

    Connecting with drummers live and in the studio

    Advice for young drummers

    Advice for experienced drummers

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    145 – Ganesh Giri Jaya Pt. 1: Making His Living With Cover/Tribute Bands, Leading and Singing from the Drums, Yoga and Spiritual Practice Dec 06, 2017
    Show notes

    Ganesh Giri Jaya was born in New Orleans, moved to Atlanta at age 16, spent his early 20’s in L.A. and Portland, and ultimately returned to Atlanta where he has remained for the past 25 years. His career has usually found him drumming and/or singing in cover and tribute bands of various types. He was one of the original members of Yacht Rock Revue and for the past few years has been the singer, drummer, and leader of its overflow band, Yacht Rock Schooner. Those bands and a few others are under the umbrella of the entertainment company PleaseRock. In his mid 20s, he was introduced to yoga and soon delved deeper into it, beyond the physical practice most of us have done at least once, and into the spiritual, emotional and psychological lessons it has to offer.

    In this podcast, Ganesh talks about:

    The origins of Yacht Rock Revue and Yacht Rock Schooner

    The popularity of cover/tribute bands, and their market value vs. original artists

    Social media marketing strategies

    How over-preparing allows you to play through nerves

    His process for learning songs

    Our mutual admiration of Levon Helm

    His yoga practice

    Playing with bassist Khari Simmons


    This episode is sponsored by Crush Drums


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    144 – Ray Luzier: Drumming for Korn, KXM, Army Of Anyone, David Lee Roth, Having a Back-Up for the Back-Up Nov 29, 2017
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    Ray Luzier was raised in West Newton, Pennsylvania, a small town an hour outside of Pittsburgh. He began playing drums at age five, and although basically self-taught, he participated in high school jazz, concert, and marching bands. After graduating in 1988, Luzier moved to Hollywood, California to pursue an education at the renowned Musicians Institute. He graduated in 1989 with a degree from MI’s Percussion Institute of Technology. Luzier later returned as an instructor at Musicians Institute (1992–2001), where he taught rock-style drumming classes and gave private lessons.

    Luzier is well known for his work with David Lee Roth, whom he played drums for from 1997-2005. Luzier has also played with The Hideous Sun Demons, a progressive-rock/fusion trio formed with DLR bandmembers Toshi Hiketa (guitar) and James LoMenzo (bass). In 2004, Luzier released an instructional DVD. It features a wide variety of lessons, including double-bass technique, drum fills, motion exercises, and warm-ups. It was released through Hal Leonard Publishing Co.

    In January 2006, Luzier appeared at the NAMM in Anaheim, California with Billy Sheehan and Toshi Hiketa. Robert DeLeo and Dean DeLeo of Stone Temple Pilots appeared at the same NAMM venue as part of an impromptu band put together by Steve Ferrone. After seeing Luzier’s performance, the DeLeo brothers invited Luzier to join Army of Anyone, the band they were putting together with vocalist Richard Patrick of the band Filter.

    In 2007, after original drummer David Silveria had left (in 2006), Korn hired many touring drummers including Joey Jordison of Slipknot. Jordison left due to preparation for the recording of Slipknot’s new album All Hope Is Gone. Consequently, Korn was then looking for a new drummer; and Luzier reportedly flew to Seattle to audition for Korn with Munky and Fieldy. When told to learn only five of their songs, Luzier learned 30. After an amazing audition, Ray was immediately invited to join Korn.

    Luzier played his first show with Korn on January 13, 2008 in Dublin, Ireland and played with the band throughout 2008. Korn recorded their ninth studio album together with Ray and their original producer Ross Robinson. Korn frontman Jonathan Davis revealed that Luzier is now an official member of the band. Ray made “UltimateRockGods” Artist Of The Month for July.

    Luzier also played live with Stone Temple Pilots for a couple of the band’s shows on their reunion tour in October filling in for drummer Eric Kretz, who took time off due to the death of his father. In November 2010, Ray played drums for the immensely popular Japanese band, Kat-Tun on their song ‘Change UR World’. It was Kat-Tun’s 13th number 1 single on the Oricon charts.

    In 2013, the band KXM was formed with Ray and King’s X bassist/vocalist dUg Pinnick and Lynch Mob/ex-Dokken guitarist George Lynch. Their second record Scatterbrain came out in 2017.

    In this episode, Ray talks about:

    Moving from the Pittsburg area to L.A. to study at P.I.T.

    Helping to create a rock curriculum at P.I.T. and teaching

    The importance of “The Hang” in the studio and on the road

    Working with David Lee Roth

    Having a back up for the back up

    Working and recording with Billy Sheehan

    His audition for Korn

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    143 – Jake Reed: A Jazz Method Book with a New Approach, Studying Under Erskine and Von Ohlen, When Your Wife is Your Bandleader Nov 22, 2017
    Show notes

    Jake Reed was born and raised in Kansas City and went on to study drumset under two of the great educators of our time: John Von Ohlen at University of Cincinnati and Peter Erskine at USC. While in grad school at USC, Jake gradually worked his way into the LA scene doing live dates and recording sessions with colleagues and mentors alike. He has performed or recorded with Bill Bolman, Johnny Mandel, Lisa Loeb, Bob Mintzer, and many others. His most active current project is drumming in TrioKait, led by his wife, pianist and composer Kait Dunton. The group has just recorded their second record. Jake has also just released his first book, “Jazz Drumset Etudes, Vol. I,” which takes a new approach to developing jazz vocabulary.

    In this podcast, Jake talks about:

    His early years in Kansas City

    The differences in the teaching styles of Von Ohlen and Erskine

    Learning to “pay attention” when listening and playing to absorb and convey more information quicker

    A couple of the more unique projects he’s been part of, including Cow Bop and The Vibrometers

    His new book, and how its approach differs from other jazz method books

    Using melodies, not rudiments, to develop your drum language

    Being married to a fellow musician who is also his boss

    His relationship with TrioKait bassist Cooper Appelt


    Jake Reed endorses Gretsch Drums, Zildjian Cymbals, Vic Firth Sticks, and Remo Drumheads.

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    142 – Evan Hutchings: Full Time Session Drummer, Trends in Style & Tone in the Studio, Producing  Nov 15, 2017
    Show notes

    Evan Hutchings grew up in Ft. Smith, AR and is the son of a preacher. He started playing drums at age 2 and got his first drum set at age 8. It was through hours of watching other drummers play in church that he learned how to play for a song and try to convey a sense of emotion through the drums. After high school, Evan moved to Nashville to attend Middle Tennessee State University and studied with Lalo Davila and Tom Giampietro. Since leaving school in 2009, Evan has been touring extensively throughout the USA and abroad with various artists including Katie Herzig, Sugar and the Hi-Lows, Griffin House, Andy Gibson, Erin McCarley, and others.

    Evan is currently an in-demand session drummer in Nashville and has worked in the studio with Nathan Chapman (Taylor Swift), Jamie Kenney (Erin McCarley, Marc Broussard), Neilson Hubbard (Kim Richey), and many others like Danielle Bradbery, Rascal Flatts and Kelsea Ballerini.

    In this episode, Evan talks about:

    Different drummers style to playing, soloing, clinics

    Tuning drums live v.s. studio

    Trends in style and tone in the studio

    Developing his abilities

    The idea of complex drumming (ie metric-modulation) as a way to reinforce a solid time feel

    Our mutual crush on Steve Jordan

    Playing other instruments for writing and producing

    Learning to write and produce

    Finding your people, like minded musicians

    The direction of the music industry

    Evan endorses Innovative percussion

    This episode is sponsored by Crush Drums

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    141 – Gerald French: His Chapter in a New Orleans Family Legacy Nov 08, 2017
    Show notes

    Gerald French was born and raised in New Orleans in one of the city’s most prominent musical families. Over his career, he has played with most of New Orleans musical royalty, including Harry Connick Jr., Charmagne Neville, Preservation Hall Jazz Band, and Dr. John. In 2014, he became the leader of the Original Tuxedo Jazz Band. He is only the fifth person to lead the group in its 107-year history, and the third member of his family to do so, preceded by his uncle Bob French and his grandfather Albert “Papa” French.

    In this podcast Gerald talks about:

    His annual tours of Japan with Tom Fischer and the New Orleans All-Stars

    Succeeding his uncle and grandfather as the leader of The Original Tuxedo Jazz Band, and the long history of that group

    Drumming and singing

    Transitioning from sideman to leader

    “Being a soldier”, not a star, in the music industry

    His work as an educator with the Traditional New Orleans Jazz Camp

    Teaching young musicians how to properly play traditional New Orleans music, and preventing that tradition from being lost or diluted

    How New Orleans musicians have historically

    His experience during and after Hurricane Katrina

    His involvement in the Wild Magnolias Mardis Gras Indians



    Gerald French endorses Taye Drums, Sabian Cymbals, and Innovative Percussion Sticks

    This episode is sponsored by Crush Drums.

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    140 – Pat Torpey: Drummer for Mr. Big, Nashville Drummer Jam Honoree, Fighting Parkinson’s Disease Nov 02, 2017
    Show notes

    Pat Torpey was born in Cleveland, Ohio. At age 7, he first played the drums and in high school, Torpey immersed himself in all available music programs, concert, orchestra, marching and stage bands. In 1983, Torpey moved to Los Angeles and became a regular on the American Bandstand and Solid Gold TV shows performing with artists like Ben E. King, Mike + The Mechanics, Melissa Manchester and Bob Geldof. In 1985, Torpey auditioned for the British pop–rock singer John Parr, who was riding high on his #1 hit “St. Elmo’s Fire” and had landed the opening slot for Tina Turner on her Private Dancer tour. When that tour ended he became the drummer for Belinda Carlisle on her first solo tour, opening for Robert Palmer.

    In 1987, Pat joined The Knack. Playing around Los Angeles with The Knack was the pathway to Mr. Big. Billy Sheehan and Paul Gilbert were starting a new band and were on the hunt for a drummer. They saw Pat playing with The Knack and were impressed with his energy and style.

    Mr. Big secured a recording contract with Atlantic Records but before the band started work on the first CD Torpey was tapped to play drums with Robert Plant on his Now and Zen tour when Plant’s drummer Chris Blackwell was injured.

    In 1992, Mr. Big’s international hit song “To Be With You” was no.1 in the U.S. and fifteen other countries and top five in many more. For fourteen years Mr. Big toured the world, headlining as well as opening for Aerosmith, Rush, Bryan Adams and The Scorpions to name a few, garnering a reputation for their world class musicianship and totally ‘live’ performances.

    Pat has been noted as a great backing vocalist (with high vocal range) and he often sings some cover songs in the Mr. Big show during his encore. Also he sings some tunes from The Beatles during his drum solo. Because of Mr. Big’s popularity in Japan and Asia, Pat released two solo albums (as a singer) overseas, Odd Man Out and Y2K in 1998 and 1999.

    He announced on July 25, 2014 that he had been diagnosed with Parkinson’s disease and would be unable to perform all of his normal drumming duties on the band’s 2014-15 world tour in support of the album …The Stories We Could Tell. “I’ve been dealing with Parkinson’s symptoms for the past couple of years and only recently received a confirmed diagnosis as symptoms worsened,” Torpey said. “I intend to fight the disease with same intensity and tenacity that I drum and live my life by and will continue recording and performing, as always, to the best of my ability.”

    Torpey recently acted as a “drum producer” on Mr. Big’s latest album, Defying Gravity, and still plays percussion on tour, though Matt Starr has taken over lead drummer duties

    In this episode, Pat talks about:

    Touring around the world over the years

    The early days of Mr Big

    Meeting Mitch Mitchell

    Getting his start in L.A.

    Mr Big questions from David Parks

    Pat being honored at the Nashville Drummer Jam

    His diagnosis of Parkinson’s Disease in 2014

    Recording and touring with the help of drummer Matt Starr

    Pat’s inspiration for his drum solo while singing

    Pat endorses: Promark drum sticks,Remo drumheads, Tama drums, Zildjian cymbals

    This episode is sponsored by Crush Drums

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    139 – Ian Chang: Making Technology Feel Organic, Drumming With Son Lux, Developing Sunhouse Sensory Percussion Oct 26, 2017
    Show notes

    Ian Chang was born in Hong Kong and moved to New Jersey as a teenager to attend boarding school. He had studied classical piano and percussion in Hong Kong, but quickly became interested in all the other genres New York had to offer. He had begun a pre-college classical percussion program at Julliard, and was on track to attend there after high school, but decided against it at the last minute to focus on drumset, jazz, hip hop, and beyond. He is the drummer for Son Lux, an acclaimed trio whose compositions, recordings and performances are a mix of acoustic and electronic mediums. He was one of the beta testers for Sunhouse’s Sensory Percussion, a new electronic percussion system that gives the drummer an unprecedented range of sounds, sensitivity, customization, and improvisational possibilities.

    In this podcast, Ian talks about:

    The process of creating his new solo album “Spiritual Leader”

    Making electronic music sound less “gridded.”

    The development of Sunhouse Sensory Percussion, and what sets it apart from other electronic percussion

    Ways to approach electronics that make them seem less daunting and lower the wall between electric and acoustic

    How Sensory Percussion has changed his approach to coordination, speed, orchestration, etc.

    Some musicians’ preoccupation with sound and timbre rather than groove and melody

    His first exposure to music, an extremely regimented classical program in Hong Kong

    Chinese attitudes toward a career in music, and current music trends in China

    His first years in New York – catching the jazz bug and playing tons of hip hop gigs, and how those both contributed to the drummer he’s become

    The origins of his band Son Lux, and their creative process

    How music’s focus has shifted from melody, harmony and groove, to sound and timbre

    Finding ways to use electronics that make the most sense and are the most inspiring to YOU.



    Ian Chang endorses C&C Drums, Vic Firth Sticks, Istanbul Cymbals, Sunhouse Sensory Percussion, and Roots EQ

    This episode is sponsored by Crush Drums.

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    138 – Jeremy Roberson: Drumming for Chase Rice, Protege of John Blackwell, Deflecting Stereotypes Oct 18, 2017
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    For more than 24 years, Jeremy Roberson has been perfecting his precise, unpredictable, high-energy style of drumming. Using a combination of techniques, he has developed his own original style, which is as exciting to listen to as it is to watch. His ability to adapt to any genre of music while maintaining precision, timing, and his uniquely smooth style has earned him numerous accolades, and has led him to be known by musicians and fans alike as none other than “Mr. Finesse.” At the age of 3, Roberson, born in Columbia, SC, began honing his skills on the drum set, emulating the style of his older brother Tony, nine years his senior. Before long he began marching with the W.J. Keenan High School Band- at age 11. He continued marching with the band throughout his high school career, eventually gaining regional recognition and numerous awards. After high school he attended Johnson C. Smith University where he furthered his studies and marched on the University’s band. After college he rapidly began to merge into the local, regional, and nation scene, playing with acts such as Tony Terry, Wycliffe Gordon, Crossfade, Weaving The Fate, to name a few. Currently Roberson is touring with country artist Chase Rice.

    In this episode, Jeremy talks about:

    The importance of knowing how to running tracks and loops

    His experience performing in Korea for the troops

    Knowing John Blackwell growing up and the influence that he had

    Touring with Chase Rice

    His approach to soloing

    Deflecting stereotypes

    Being selfless on stage

    The origin of his nickname – Jeremy “Finesse” Roberson

    Getting the Chase Rice gig

    Grooving with tracks

    Jeremy endorses: Zildjian Cymbals, Vater Sticks, Tama Drums, Evans Drumheads, Gibraltar Hardware

    This episode is sponsored by Crush Drums

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