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    Working Drummer

    With 500 episodes and counting, Working Drummer Podcast is the source for those interested in what it’s like to be a professional drummer. Hosted by Matthew Crouse and Zack Albetta, Working Drummer covers it all with a dynamic range of pro drummers who represent many different genres and scenes. Each weekly interview features a different performer, sometimes with a less recognizable name, but always with an impressive and distinct body of work. This unique approach has garnered a loyal audience hungry for unfiltered stories about making a living as a musician today.

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    Latest Episodes:
    406 - Chris Marquart: Touring with multi-platinum country superstar Cole Swindel, Benefits of Transcribing, Staying Healthy on the Road Feb 16, 2023
    Show notes

    Chris Marquart is the touring drummer with multi-platinum country superstar Cole Swindell. Originally from a small town in Illinois, Chris attended The Berkley college of music before his eventual move to Nashville, TN. Chris has created a career in the music industry on his own terms all while staying focused on the big picture and things that are most important to him. Chris navigated his way through the Nashville scene playing clubs in the Lower Broadway scene to working with signed artists like Craig Campbell and Cole Swindel.

    In this episode, Chris talks about:

    • Things he learned while at the Berklee College of Music
    • From Lower Broadway in Nashville to touring with Cole Swindel
    • How Chris manages his mix and technology on the Cole gig
    • Playing musically with a click and tracks
    • The benefits of transcribing
    • Staying healthy on the road, mentally and physically
    • Planning the next stage of work life outside of music

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    405 - Victor Indrizzo: “Everything is a drum” Feb 09, 2023
    Show notes

    Victor Indrizzo has long been one of the most in-demand drummers in LA and can be heard on countless records and movie soundtracks. He has recorded with Beck, Sheryl Crow, Queens of the Stone Age, and many, many others. He has also served as Alanis Morissette's touring drummer for over a decade. His recent work includes Lizzo's "About Damn Time," newly crowned with a grammy for record of the year, and a sample pack through Yurt Rock.

    In this episode, Victor talks about:

    • Being a young dad and saying yes to everything
    • Connecting with his pure love of drumming when he's feeling bogged down in the “work” aspect
    • Having a dialogue and partnership with sound engineers to shape drum sounds together
    • Finding ways to make acoustic recorded sounds similar to programmed sounds
    • Using stacking and overdubbing to highlight choruses instead of moving to the ride or opening the hihat
    • His approach to creating a sample pack
    • How the most important aspects of working don’t require you to be extroverted

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    404 - Dan Ainspan: Hosting the Nashville Drummers Podcast w/Nathan Sletner, Working at Pearl Drums, Studying with Blake Fleming Feb 02, 2023
    Show notes

    Dan Ainspan is the co-host of the podcast Nashville Drummers Podcast with colleague Nathan Sletner. The podcast gives a voice to Nashville’s next generation of players — the up-and-coming drummers that you may haven’t heard of yet.

    Dan is also currently the Jr. Marketing Manager, Band & Orchestra Products for Pearl Corporation, based in Nashville, TN.

    A Slingerlands, NY native, Dan attended the State University of New York College at Oneonta where he received a B.A. in Music Industry with Double Minors in Percussion Performance and Audio Production. At Oneonta, Dan studied percussion with Dr. Julie Licata and drum set with The Mars Volta drummer Blake Fleming.

    After graduating in 2015, Dan relocated to Indianapolis, IN to pursue an internship with the Percussive Arts Society before his eventual move to Nashville, TN.

    In this episode, Dan talks about:

    • His job at Pearl drums
    • Dan’s journey from college to NY to Indianapolis to Nashville
    • Interning at PAS
    • Studying with original The Mars Volta drummer Blake Fleming
    • Leaning into his digital and social media skills
    • Hosting the Nashville Drummers podcast w/Nathan Sletner
    • The value of a personal website in 2023

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    403 - Jay Bellerose: Playing with Robert Plant & Allison Krauss, Finding Homes for His Approach, Treating Instrumental Muisc Like Songs Jan 26, 2023
    Show notes

    Jay Bellerose is a Los Angeles-based touring and studio veteran with an approach and aesthetic all his own. His passion for all things old and gritty has resulted in a personality behind the drums that has become sought after by artists and producers including Robert Plant & Allison Krauss, T-Bone Burnett, Bonnie Raitt, Ray LeMontagne,

    In this episode, Jay talks about:

    • The Slingerland "Rolling Bomber" set he plays on the Plant/Krauss tour, and how the sound is captured
    • Having to find and fight for his aesthetic amidst the LA scene
    • How singers move, and how drummers can recognize and respond to that
    • How the Plant/Krauss project is separate and distinct from Robert or Allison's individual history or work
    • Playing in Molly Miller's trio with his wife, Jennifer Condos on bass
    • The deceptive challenge of simple instrumental music
    • Keeping his schedule intentionally sparse when he's home in LA

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    402 - Jamie Wollam: Drumming for Tears for Fears, L.A. to Canada and Getting Sober, Dialing Sounds with A&F Drums Jan 19, 2023
    Show notes

    Jamie Wollam has toured with some of the most talented musicians on earth including, Tears for Fears, Jackson Browne, David Crosby, Tommy Shaw (Styx), Fee Waybil (The Tubes) and Rage Against the Machine’s Tom Morello’s solo project, The Nightwatchman.

    He has recorded with Michael Sweet (Stryper), Guardian, Zache Brooke, The Brave, John Elefante (Kansas), Venice, Jay Nash, Mindy Gledhill, Michael Jackson, Kyle Vincent, Hillary Duff, Eric Hutchinson, Avion, Steve Bertrand, Drake Bell, G.E.M and, Tears for Fears.

    In this episode, Jaime talks about:

    • His move from L.A. to Canada and getting sober
    • Working through these struggles while working with Tears for Fears
    • Drumming with Tears for Fears and the support they gave him
    • Being the drummer for Tears for Fears and working a “regular job”
    • Drumming for Tears for Fears and the new record
    • Losing his deal with DW
    • Dialing in his sound with A&F drums

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    401 - Matt Starr: Playing with Sarah McLachlan, Activity vs. Direction, Community within Community Jan 12, 2023
    Show notes

    Matt Starr is a 20-year veteran of the LA scene and recently landed in Sarah McLachlan's drum chair. Over his career, he has divided his time playing live and recording in the pop/rock world and has also been producing music in his own studio. Matt began formal study of drums in his hometown of Toronto with Vito Rezza, and went on to study with Joe Morello, Jim Chapin, and Bernard Purdie. In addition to the Sarah gig, he has also performed with Buffy Sainte-Marie, Chris Shiflett (from the Foo Fighters), Christopher Cross, Lisa Loeb (with whom he recorded a grammy winning album in 2018), Deana Carter, Glen Ballard, Alphonso Johnson, Lucy Hale, Kiki Ebsen, Kevyn Lettau and Inbar Starr.

    In this podcast, Matt talks about:

    • Learning to get the most out of your existing gear before buying more
    • How drummers now have the expertise to be in conversation and partnership with audio engineers
    • How his relationship with Victor Indrizzo led to the Sarah McLachlan gig
    • Being an LA drummer without the LA extroversion/ambition
    • How you can define "community" by just a couple of relationships

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    400 - Your Drumming Journey and Ours Jan 05, 2023
    Show notes

    400! We’ve celebrated milestones in different ways over the years and this time around we wanted to make you the listener the special guest. Over the last few months we’ve been collecting messages from y’all about where you are in your drumming journey and where the podcast has fit into that.

    Matt and Zack also reflect on where they are in their drumming journeys (two very different places) and the role the podcast is playing for in that, professionally and personally.

    We want to thank everyone for calling and writing in, it’s been really rewarding to hear from old friends and new, some close to home, some halfway around the world about how what we do here is valued. And thanks also to everyone who has listened, donated, told a friend about us, followed us on social media, there have been so many ways y’all have supported us over the years and that support is the reason we’ve reached this milestone. Thank you.

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    399 - Jerry Gaskill: Kings X new album - Three Sides of One, Inspired by Bonham, Surviving Two Heart Attacks Dec 22, 2022
    Show notes

    Drummer, singer, and songwriter Jerry Gaskill founded the progressive metal band Kings X in 1983. A native of Bridgeton, New Jersey, Gaskill began playing at a young age, forming a band with his father and brother and playing his first gig at the age of seven. After playing in bands throughout high school, he became heavily involved in the Christian faith and enrolled at Evangel University in Springfield, Missouri. Not long after arriving in Springfield, he befriended bassist dUg Pinnick and the two formed a sturdy rhythm section, backing up artists like future Petra singer Greg X. Volz and guitarist Phil Keaggy.

    After trying out various combos of their own, Gaskill and Pinnick were joined by guitarist Ty Tabor and the trio, then called Sneak Preview, relocated to Houston, Texas. Changing their name to Kings X in 1987, they eventually signed with metal label Megaforce and released their debut, Out of the Silent Planet, a year later. A prog trio with a strong melodic bent and elaborate three-part harmonies, Kings X have enjoyed a successful career with stints on Atlantic, Metal Blade, and InsideOut Music. Gaskill's contributions as drummer, writer, and occasional lead singer are an integral part of Kings X's sound.

    In 2004, he released his solo debut, Come Somewhere, which was recorded and produced by bandmate Ty Tabor. In addition to his work with Kings X, Gaskill has contributed to side projects by his two bandmates as well as albums by blues guitarist Jay Hooks and New Jersey songwriter Bob Burger. After suffering a heart attack in early 2012, Gaskill's home was destroyed by Hurricane Sandy later that same year. Waylaid by a second heart attack in 2014, he rallied to release his second solo LP, Love & Scars. The album was released in October 2015 and featured guest spots from Billy Sheehan, Phil Keaggy, Earl Slick, and others.


    In this episode, Jerry talks about:

    • Kings X new album - Three Sides of One
    • Insight to Jerry’s time feel
    • Surviving two heart attacks
    • Wedges over in-ear monitors
    • The popularity of Kings X among the musician community
    • Moving away from the Christian music industry in the early days
    • The profound inspiration that John Bonham had on his playing
    • Performing with Bruce Springsteen

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    398 - Tim Carman: Touring & Recording with GA-20, His Shuffle Love Affair, "Haynes-isms" Dec 15, 2022
    Show notes

    Based in Boston, MA, Tim is an international touring musician, session drummer, educator, and published author with both Alfred Music and Hudson Music. Tim currently records and tours extensively with GA-20, a three-time Billboard #1 blues trio signed to Karma Chief/Colemine records. He also leads two of his own projects: Tim Carman & The Street 45s—a world-groove inspired funk band—and the Tim Carman Trio—a vintage organ jazz trio (à la Jimmy Smith) nominated for “Jazz Act of the Year (2022)” by the Boston Music Awards.

    Along with performing, Tim is a dedicated educator who has released four drum books: Haynes-ISM (2022 via Hudson Music), Groove Systems (2021 via Hudson Music), Shape Beats: Drum Notation Simplified (2020), and Shape Beats for Kids (2017 via Alfred Music).

    In this episode, Tim talks about

    • The easy decision to commit full time to GA-20 in 2018
    • His experience at Berklee
    • Learning to make experimentation part of practicing
    • Versing himself in Chicago blues, and the shuffles of Fred Below, Ted Harvey, and others
    • The more jazz-based projects he leads, and playing with B3 organ

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    397 - Kris Mazzarisi: Owner of Big Fat Snare Drum, Touring in the band Winnetka Bowling League, Experience in Teching and Managing Dec 08, 2022
    Show notes

    Kris Mazzarisi is the founder and owner of innovative drum company Big Fat Snare Drum. Big Fat Snare Drum has become a standard must have piece of gear that is used by the majority of drummers around the world.

    When he isn’t running his business or inventing new products to add to the BFSD legacy, Kris tours with his brother in the band Winnetka Bowling League.

    Kris leans into his years experiences in the music industry as an intuitive guide in the running and growth of Big Fat Snare Drum.

    In this episode, Kris talks about:

    • Creating a balance between touring and running a business
    • Road managing
    • Touring with his brother in the band Winnetka Bowling League
    • Teaching himself to be a professional tech
    • His company: Big Fat Snare Drum and it’s beginnings
    • The inspiration for The Drum Click Network

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