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    Working Class Audio

    Peel back the glamour of the professional recording world. Guests from the world of audio for music, film, games, restoration, and more share their insights on how they made their journey, how they survive, their advice on the real things including wins, losses, working with other people, money, and career advice. 
    Hosted by audio engineer Matt Boudreau.
    The Working Class Audio Podcast – Navigating the World of Recording with a working class perspective.

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    WCA #295 with Reto Peter - Starting Over, Green Day, Diversification, Recording Restrictions, Family, and Redefining Success Aug 10, 2020
    Show notes

    Reto Peter is a producer/engineer based in the San Francisco Bay Area. Reto has worked with Green Day, Counting Crows, Smash Mouth, Flipsyde and many other artists in his 20 year plus career. He also writes and produces music for television and can be heard on various cable networks and national ad campaigns.

    In this episode, we discuss:

    • National Service
    • Switzerland
    • Berklee School of Music
    • The Magic of New York
    • Starting Over
    • Green Day
    • Studio Hierarchy
    • Paying Dues
    • 3 Year Patterns
    • Michael Urbano
    • Diversification
    • Frugality
    • Working From Home
    • Saying No
    • Counting Crows
    • Recording Restrictions
    • Studio Community
    • Perseverance
    • Family
    • Redefining Success


    Links and Show Notes

    • Reto's site: https://smalltunemusic.com/
    • Blinded by the Light: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/blinded_by_the_light_2019
    • WCA on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/working_class_audio
    • Support WCA - Go Ad-Free! https://glow.fm/workingclassaudio/
    • Connect with Matt on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattboudreau/
    • Current sponsors & promos: https://bit.ly/2WmKbFw
    • Working Class Audio Journal: https://amzn.to/2GN67TP


    Credits:

    • Guest: Reto Peter
    • Host: Matt Boudreau
    • WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
    • Announcer: Chuck Smith
    • Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau & Matt Boudreau
    • Additional Music: The License Lab


    WCA #294 with McKay Garner - Remote Production, Curveballs and Lemonade, Production Mindset, Community, and Burritos Aug 03, 2020
    Show notes

    McKay Garner is a producer, engineer, mixer, multi-instrumentalist, and composer, he has worked on records for artists such as J Dilla, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Mike Shinoda/Linkin Park, Michael Buble, Dead & Company/Mickey Hart, made music in films such as the Transformers movie, in video games, and for television shows such as Total Recall, America’s Next Top Model, Grey’s Anatomy, and many more. He has been fortunate to work as an engineer on projects with amazing producers and engineers such as Rick Rubin, Ariel Rechtshaid, Dana Nielsen, and Ryan Hewitt, among others.


    After studying music at the University of N.C. School of the Arts, McKay Garner’s career has spanned decades performing in front of countless audiences and creating music in recording studios. McKay is an active member of the Bay Area music scene. As an elected leader volunteer, he served two terms as co-chair of the Producers and Engineers Wing and is an active Board member of the Recording Academy SF Chapter (the Grammys and more), McKay now strives to bring attention to experimental, innovative, and traditional music voices within the industry.


    In this episode, we discuss:

    • Remote Production
    • Residential Rental Recording Spaces
    • Supportive Spouses
    • Curveballs and Lemonade
    • Drummers as Producers/Engineers
    • LA to SF
    • Life In LA
    • Music and Technology
    • Burritos
    • Production Mindset
    • Production Financials
    • Licensing
    • Community


    Links and Show Notes

    • McKay's Site: http://mckaygarner.com
    • McKay on Instagram: @mckayallday
    • WCA on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/working_class_audio
    • Support WCA - Go Ad-Free! https://glow.fm/workingclassaudio/
    • Connect with Matt on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattboudreau/
    • Current sponsors & promos: https://bit.ly/2WmKbFw
    • Working Class Audio Journal: https://amzn.to/2GN67TP


    Credits:

    • Guest: McKay Garner
    • Host: Matt Boudreau
    • WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
    • Announcer: Chuck Smith
    • Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau & Matt Boudreau
    • Additional Music: The License Lab


    WCA #293 with Heidi Trefethen - Live Sound, Recording, French Horn, Struggles with The Mormon Church, Session Mindset, Sexism and Learning to Evolve Jul 26, 2020
    Show notes

    Heidi Trefethen is a French Hornist, multi-instrumentalist, educator, and sought-after sound engineer, Heidi Trefethen shuttles back and forth across continents frequently, in roles both onstage and off. As a hornist, she has performed in numerous ensembles and venues in Italy, the UK, Bosnia, Thailand, Guatemala, Israel Turkey, and the US, including the LA Philharmonic, the JazzUp Festival in Italy, Cleveland's Rock n' Roll Hall of Fame, San Francisco's Davies Symphony Hall and SFJAZZ's Miner Hall.

    As a live sound engineer, she has worked with the likes of Shawn Colvin, Meshell N'degeocello, Odetta, Ellis Paul, Joan Baez, Joan Armatrading, Buffy Sainte-Marie, Holly Near, John Stewart of the Kingston Trio, Dar Williams, Al Stewart, Jane Siberry and Lucy Kaplansky, often at the legendary Freight and Salvage in Berkeley, CA. Heidi can be often seen behind the sound boards at SFJAZZ where she was recently recruited as a FOH and A2 engineer.

    As a recording engineer, she studied at the California Recording Institute’s intensive sound engineering program. An internship at the historic Coast Recorders and a job at Rocket Lab mastering house had her working side-by-side with technical heavyweights John Cuniberti, Dan Alexander and Michael Romanowski. Heidi’s engineering credits include Tammy Hall’s “Blue Soul,” Jessica Jones and Mark Taylor’s “Live at the Freight” 2011, Lucy Kaplansky’s "Kaplansky Sings Kaplanksy," 2000, Michael Burles' currently "Untitled Recording" 2017, Nestler and Hawtin's "Duality" 2014, co-engineered with Bryan Bell, Herbie Hancock’s first engineer, and full production of Anne Rainwater's solo piano recording of Johann Sebastian Bach's Goldberg Variations.


    In this episode, we discuss:

    • SF Jazz
    • French Horn
    • Freight & Salvage
    • Teaching
    • Learning to Evolve
    • Mentoring
    • Women's Audio Mission
    • Covid's Effect
    • The Audio Pro Advantage
    • The Importance of Recording & Music
    • Overdubbing at a Young Age
    • Education
    • Open Mic Nights
    • Live Sounds
    • Producing
    • Session Mindset
    • Communication Style
    • Struggles w/The Mormon Church
    • Empathy
    • Women in Audio
    • Sexism
    • Bay Area
    • Speaking Italian
    • Making a Living
    • Not Working for Free


    Links and Show Notes

    • Heidi's Site: www.heiditrefethen.com
    • Linkedin Profile: https://bit.ly/39ujk1L
    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heiditrefethen/
    • Twitter: https://twitter.com/heiditrefethen
    • WCA on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/working_class_audio
    • Support WCA - Go Ad-Free! https://glow.fm/workingclassaudio/
    • Connect with Matt on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattboudreau/
    • Current sponsors & promos: https://bit.ly/2WmKbFw
    • Working Class Audio Journal: https://amzn.to/2GN67TP


    Credits:

    • Guest: Heidi Trefethen
    • Host: Matt Boudreau
    • WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
    • Announcer: Chuck Smith
    • Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau & Matt Boudreau
    • Additional Music: The License Lab


    WCA #292 with Jessica Paz - Manhattan Special, Soda Stream, Theater Sound, Women in Audio, Sound Design, Advocacy and Last Minute Christmas Gifts Jul 19, 2020
    Show notes

    Jessica Paz is a Tony Award-winning Sound Designer for theater, film and music. Most recently, she collaborated with Nevin Steinberg on the sound design for Anaïs Mitchell’s acclaimed production of Hadestown, which earned the duo a Tony Award, Drama Desk Award and an Outer Critics Circle nomination.

    On Broadway, Jessica was an Associate Sound Designer on projects including Dear Evan Hansen, Bandstand, Disaster! The Musical; The Assembled Parties (MCC); and Fela!.

    Other design credits include Little Shop of Horrors (Westside Theater); Kiss My Aztec (Berkeley Rep); Twelfth Night, Othello, Miss You Like Hell, Julius Caesar, A Midsummer Nights Dream, and As You Like It (The Public Theater); Burn All Night (A.R.T Oberon Stage); Ugly Lies the Bone (Roundabout); A Sucker EmCee, and The Muscles in Our Toes (LAByrinth); The Kings Whore (Starcatcher Productions); Becoming Dr. Ruth (Westside Theater); Looking for the Pony (Vital Theater Co.); Women Beware Women (Red Bull Theater); STRETCH – A Fantasia (New Georges); Welcome to Fear City (KC Rep); Scott & Hem in the Garden of Allah, and See How They Run (Barrington Stage); Legally Blonde, and 9 to 5 The Musical (North Shore Music Theater); Romeo & Juliet, Midsummer Night’s Dream, Othello, and Much Ado About Nothing (Shakespeare on the Sound’s Productions); SCKBSTD (Virginia Stage Co) ; Volcanoes Birthright (Organic Magnetics); TempOdyssey, And Her Hair Went With Her, Bookends, and Minstrel Show (NJ Rep).

    Jessica has been a Front of House Engineer for musicians including The Preservation Hall Jazz Band, Antibalas, Julia Haltigan, Femi Kuti, Lady Antebellum, Candy Shop Boys, People vs. Larson, Michael Arenetta, Bugaboo, Carte Blanche, King Holiday, The Woes, Stone Cold Fox, The African Children’s Choir and many others. She has also been a Lecturer of Sound Design in addition to student advisor for Princeton Universities production of Next To Normal, and was the Sound Designer of the Actor’s Studio Drama School’s yearly Master’s Thesis productions from 2009 – 2014.

    Jessica is fascinated by music studio and live concert techniques. She is constantly learning and researching innovative approaches from the traditional music recording world, and bringing them into her theater work. A proud member of IATSE Local 829; Soundgirls.org; Woman’s Audio Mission; USITT; and Co-Chair of the board of the Theatrical Sound Designers and Composers Association. She currently resides in New York. Pizza is her favorite food group.


    In this episode, we discuss:

    • Manhattan Special
    • Theater Sound
    • Broadway/Off Broadway
    • Theater Sound Design
    • System Design
    • Audio Teams
    • Audio Roles
    • Mentors
    • Large Budgets
    • Network Audio
    • Rain vs. Audio
    • Women in Audio
    • Theater vs. Club Sound
    • Union Rules
    • Money
    • Passion for Audio
    • Past Jobs
    • Trying to Leave Audio
    • Advocacy


    Links and Show Notes:

    • Jessica’s site: http://www.jessicapazdesigns.com/
    • TSDCA.: https://tsdca.org/
    • USITT: https://www.usitt.org/
    • Soundgirls: https://soundgirls.org/
    • Women's Audio Mission: https://womensaudiomission.org/
    • Monologue Link to Velcro Strips: https://amzn.to/2BcrMG6
    • WCA on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/working_class_audio
    • Support WCA - Go Ad-Free! https://glow.fm/workingclassaudio/
    • Connect with Matt on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattboudreau/
    • Current sponsors & promos: https://bit.ly/2WmKbFw
    • Working Class Audio Journal: https://amzn.to/2GN67TP


    Credits:

    • Guest: Jessica Paz
    • Host: Matt Boudreau
    • WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
    • Announcer: Chuck Smith
    • Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau & Matt Boudreau
    • Additional Music: The License Lab


    WCA #291 with Greg Gordon - Great Landlords, Glee Club, Relationships, Early Days of Internet Audio, Online Mentorship, Pyramind, and the Letter I Jul 13, 2020
    Show notes

    Greg Gordon is a the Founder/Director at PYRAMIND.com, as well as a producer, educator, and entrepreneur. Greg has worked with HTC Vive, Microsoft Studios, Insomniac Games, SONY, Electronic Arts, Ubisoft, Disney, Blizzard, Zynga, Amazon, Samsung, HP, Nvidia, GoPro, LifeBeam, The Battery SF, Brandcast and many more. His music production credits include Rob Garza (Thievery Corporation), Giorgio Moroder, K Theory, Rain Phutureprimitive, The Bronx, Merl Saunders & Jerry Garcia (The Grateful Dead) and Rocker T & Joan Baez.


    In this episode, we discuss:

    • Relationships
    • Great Landlords
    • Glee Club
    • Early Days of Internet Audio
    • Game Soundtracks
    • The Letter I
    • The History of Pyramind
    • Downsizing
    • Online Mentorship


    Links and Show Notes:

    • Pyramind: https://pyramind.com/
    • Pyramind Studios: https://studios.pyramind.com/
    • Pyramind Online: https://online.pyramind.com/
    • Pyramind Records: www.pyramindrecords.com
    • BAVC: https://bavc.org/
    • GoFundMe for Damion Gallegos: https://www.gofundme.com/f/damion039s-healing-fund
    • WCA on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/working_class_audio
    • Support WCA - Go Ad-Free! https://glow.fm/workingclassaudio/
    • Connect with Matt on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattboudreau/
    • Current sponsors & promos: https://bit.ly/2WmKbFw
    • Working Class Audio Journal: https://amzn.to/2GN67TP


    Credits:

    • Guest: Greg Gordon
    • Host: Matt Boudreau
    • WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
    • Announcer: Chuck Smith
    • Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau & Matt Boudreau
    • Additional Music: The License Lab


    WCA #290 with Joe Chiccarelli - Frank Zappa, Producing, Psychology, Budgets, Learning From Others, Sharing Knowledge, and The Tonelux Mic Collaboration Jul 05, 2020
    Show notes

    Joe Chiccarelli is a ten-time Grammy and Latin Grammy Award-winning producer/engineer/mixer whose credits include such artists as Tori Amos, Beck, U2, The Strokes, The Killers, Elton John, The Shins, The White Stripes, Morrissey, Alanis Morrisette, Jason Mraz, Juanes, Julieta Venegas, The Raconteurs, Cafe Tacuba, and My Morning Jacket. Other projects through his twenty-year career have included music supervision of films such as Suicide Kings and Men with Guns, the TV series Cracker and Robert Altman’s The Gun. Joe is the studio designer for the state-of-the-art Royaltone Recording Studios (now Sphere) in Burbank, CA, and has served as an A&R consultant for several major and independent labels.

    In this episode, we discuss:

    • Matt & Joe's Connection
    • Frank Zappa
    • Roy Thomas Baker
    • Joe's Approach to Producing
    • Inexperienced Managers
    • Psychology
    • Handling Disagreements
    • Fresh Perspectives
    • Working in Multiple Genres
    • Mix with the Masters
    • Getting the Most Out Of a Budget
    • Learning From Others
    • Sharing Knowledge
    • The Tonelux Mic Collaboration
    • Planning the Year


    Links and Show Notes:

    • Joe's website: https://www.joechiccarelli.com/
    • The Tonelux JC37: https://bit.ly/2VMuhGe
    • WCA on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/working_class_audio
    • Support WCA - Go Ad-Free! https://glow.fm/workingclassaudio/
    • Connect with Matt on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattboudreau/
    • Current sponsors & promos: https://bit.ly/2WmKbFw
    • Working Class Audio Journal: https://amzn.to/2GN67TP


    Credits:

    • Guest: Joe Chiccarelli
    • Host: Matt Boudreau
    • WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
    • Announcer: Chuck Smith
    • Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau & Matt Boudreau
    • Additional Music: The License Lab


    WCA #289 with George Vlad - The Draw of the Outdoors, Field Recording, Ecology, Adventure, Bribes, and Bees Jun 28, 2020
    Show notes

    George Vlad is a sound recordist, photographer and expedition leader with a keen interest in wildlife and conservation. George travels extensively and records a variety of sounds, from natural ambiences and wildlife to odd vehicles and vintage aircraft. He also supports a variety of conservation initiatives around the world, either directly, by sharing my work with them or by employing them in my travels. When he's not traveling George works as a sound designer and composer for video games from his studio in Southern England. His audio work is heard by millions of players every month.

    In this episode, we discuss:

    • Languages
    • Burning Out
    • The Draw of the Outdoors
    • The Listening Experience
    • Travel
    • Ecology
    • The language of Birds
    • Field Recording Technique
    • Trip Planning
    • Man Made Sounds
    • Threat of Extinction
    • Recording Attention
    • Bribes
    • Fear
    • Adventure
    • Fixers
    • Packing
    • Bees
    • Experience vs ROI
    • Sound Libraries
    • Sound Design
    • Game Sound Implementation


    Links and Show Notes:

    • Make Time Book: https://amzn.to/2ZcIOMb
    • George on YouTube: https://bit.ly/2A1TEfw
    • George's Site #1: Mindful-Audio.com
    • George's Site #2 Georgevlad.com
    • George on SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/georgevlad
    • Portfolio at https://www.game-sounds.com/projects
    • WCA on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/working_class_audio
    • Support WCA - Go Ad-Free! https://glow.fm/workingclassaudio/
    • Connect with Matt on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattboudreau/
    • Current sponsors & promos: https://bit.ly/2WmKbFw
    • Working Class Audio Journal: https://amzn.to/2GN67TP


    Credits:

    • Guest: George Vlad
    • Host: Matt Boudreau
    • WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
    • Announcer: Chuck Smith
    • Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau & Matt Boudreau
    • Additional Music: The License Lab


    WCA #288 with Jens Bogren - Chaos Theory, Working in Metal, Psychology, Banks, Sports Fishing and, Motion Sickness Jun 22, 2020
    Show notes

    Jens Bogren is a Swedish record producer, mixer and recording engineer who has worked Opeth, Sepultura, Katatonia and a long list of many other bands.

    In this episode, we discuss:

    • Working in Metal
    • Banks
    • Studio Naming
    • Building A New Studio
    • Sports Fishing
    • Motion Sickness
    • Chaos Theory
    • Bogren Digital
    • Trail of Luck
    • Determining What to Charge
    • Managers
    • Psychology of Showreels
    • Psychology of Production Work
    • Leadership
    • Surround Sound Work


    Links and Show Notes:

    • Bogren Digital: https://bogrendigital.com/
    • Fascination Street Studios: https://www.fascinationstreet.se/
    • Jens on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jensbogren/?hl=en
    • Jens on Twitter: https://twitter.com/jbogren?lang=en
    • Atomic Habits: https://amzn.to/37ZCHPv
    • WCA on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/working_class_audio
    • Support WCA - Go Ad-Free! https://glow.fm/workingclassaudio/
    • Connect with Matt on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattboudreau/
    • Current sponsors & promos: https://bit.ly/2WmKbFw
    • Working Class Audio Journal: https://amzn.to/2GN67TP


    Credits:

    • Guest: Jens Bogren
    • Host: Matt Boudreau
    • WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
    • Announcer: Chuck Smith
    • Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau & Matt Boudreau
    • Additional Music: The License Lab


    WCA #287 with Nacho Molino - Panama, The Noriega Years, Bilingual Advantage, 15 year US immigration process and, Responsible Grammy Voting Jun 15, 2020
    Show notes

    Ignacio "Nacho" Molino is a five-time Grammy and Latin Grammy award-winning Mix Engineer/Producer. He has worked with CJ Ramone from The Ramones, Spice Slawson from Me First and The Gimmie Gimmies, Ruben Blades, Joan Manuel Serrat, and Carlos Vives.

    In this episode, we discuss:

    • Growing up in Panama
    • The Noriega Years
    • Civil War
    • Distance Learning
    • 15 year US immigration process
    • Marriage/Divorce
    • Working in different Genres
    • SNOW!!!
    • Bilingual Advantage
    • Regional Rate Strategies
    • Central America
    • Responsible Grammy Voting


    Links and Show Notes:

    • Nacho's Site: https://www.nachomolino.com/
    • Michael Jordan Documentary: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Dance_(TV_series)
    • WCA on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/working_class_audio
    • Support WCA - Go Ad-Free! https://glow.fm/workingclassaudio/
    • Connect with Matt on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattboudreau/
    • Current sponsors & promos: https://bit.ly/2WmKbFw
    • Working Class Audio Journal: https://amzn.to/2GN67TP


    Credits:

    • Guest: Nacho Molino
    • Host: Matt Boudreau
    • WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
    • Announcer: Chuck Smith
    • Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau & Matt Boudreau
    • Additional Music: The License Lab


    WCA #286 with Cullen Brooks - Music to Film Sound, Star Wars, Michigan, Recording Punk bands, Division of Labor and Disruptive Clients Jun 08, 2020
    Show notes

    Cullen Brooks works in television & film as a dialogue editor, re-recording mixer, sound designer, sound editor, Sound Effects Editor, and Sound Mixer.

    In this episode, we discuss:

    • Transitioning from Music to Film Sound
    • The Impact of Star Wars & the Matrix
    • Recording Punk bands
    • Learning Film Sound
    • Jumping in With Both Feet
    • Working Remotely
    • Disruptive Clients
    • New York
    • Michigan
    • Lost Tax Incentives
    • Division of Labor
    • Terms
    • Business
    • Work Ethic
    • Watching Your Mouth
    • Getting More Work
    • How to Use Social Media


    Links and Show Notes:

    • Cullen on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cullenbrooks/
    • Cullen on Twitter: https://twitter.com/mrbrooksmixing
    • Cullen on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mrbrooksmixing/
    • Making Waves Movie: https://amzn.to/2A6Uqb6
    • The end of Tax credits for Films in Michigan: https://bit.ly/2MG5JK1
    • WCA on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/working_class_audio
    • Support WCA - Go Ad-Free! https://glow.fm/workingclassaudio/
    • Connect with Matt on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattboudreau/
    • Current sponsors & promos: https://bit.ly/2WmKbFw
    • Working Class Audio Journal: https://amzn.to/2GN67TP


    Credits:

    • Guest: Cullen Brooks
    • Host: Matt Boudreau
    • WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
    • Announcer: Chuck Smith
    • Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau & Matt Boudreau
    • Additional Music: The License Lab


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