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    Word In Your Ear

    Mark Ellen and David Hepworth have been talking about and writing about music together and individually for a collective eighty years in magazines like Smash Hits, Mojo and The Word and on radio and TV programmes like “Rock On”, “Whistle Test” and VH-1.

    Over thirteen years ago, when working on the late magazine The Word, they began producing podcasts. Some listeners have been kind enough to say these have been very special to them. When the magazine folded in 2012 they kept the spirit of those podcasts alive in regular Word In Your Ear evenings in which they spoke to musicians and authors in front of an audience. 

    Over these years they’ve produced hundreds of hours of material. As of the Current Unpleasantness of 2020, they’ve produced yet hundreds of hours more with a little help from guests kind enough to digitally show them around their attics such as Danny Baker, Andy Partridge, Sir Tim Rice and Mark Lewisohn. For the full span of the Word In Your Ear world, visit wiyelondon.com.


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    Tony Fletcher - teenage label boss! – remembers the Jam, the Tube and the ‘80s pop explosion Aug 04, 2026
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    Tony Fletcher launched Jamming! when he was 13, wrote for the Face at 16, ran a label with Paul Weller at 17 and a year later was presenting the Tube. And was in a band signed to EMI. If anyone did more as a teenager, we want to meet them. It’s all in his coming-of-age memoir ‘Pow! When UK Punk Went Pop 1980-84’ - discussed here - which touches on …

    …the speed, the possibilities and the riches of success in the early ‘80s – and how it felt to be at the heart of it

    … “I knew nothing about running a label – and then discovered Paul Weller didn’t either”

    … Madness being interviewed by “spiky-haired, Harrington-jacketed, Ben-Sherman-shirted me”

    … when confidence meets ignorance

    … when bands went from selling 2,000 records to 20,000 and, in America, 200,000: “Phil Oakey always carried £500 in cash”

    … the research meetings that launched the Tube and his two-minute audition

    … the day Leslie Ash called in sick and he covered for her on live TV

    … Pete Townshend, 35, convinced the Who were finished

    ... discovering the inner circle within the inner circle

    … “to the Rainbow for the Mod Revival all-dayer!”

    … and memories of Wham!, Paula Yates and Pete Wylie and what he learnt from running labels and magazines.

    Order copies of ‘Pow! When UK Punk Went Pop 1980-84’ here:

    US: https://www.trouserpressbooks.com/pow

    UK: https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/pow-when-uk-punk-went-pop-1980-84-tony-fletcher/74b193de4c1dee68

    Help us to keep The Longest Continuous Conversation In Rock'n'Roll going: https://www.patreon.com/wordinyourear

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    Is AI wrecking rock history? – plus festivals in heatwaves and Kate Bush dancing Aug 03, 2026
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    Testing the temperature of this week’s news to see what trips the fire-alarm, which includes …

    … does having a Number One still matter?

    … Pauline Black’s sliding doors moment

    … rock stars you can’t imagine dancing

    … heatwaves, fire, rain, dust and thunderstorms: how extreme weather’s changing the festival circuit

    … when Jarvis Cocker was a fishmonger and Bryan Ferry taught pottery

    … is AI erasing our love of rock history?

    … Wuthering Heights Day: the lone fabulous amateur appeal of Kate Bush v the polished mass choreography of the 21st Century

    … all bands vividly remember first hearing themselves on the radio … and then rang their mothers

    … digital native or digital immigrant?

    … and when Mark met the Hells Angels in a Kentucky Fried Chicken.

    Help us to keep The Longest Continuous Conversation In Rock'n'Roll going: https://www.patreon.com/wordinyourear

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    Jonathan Richman, on-the-road songs and the best-known solo ever recorded Jul 27, 2026
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    This week’s news in a conversational cocktail-shaker and served with ice and a little paper parasol. Those Happy Hour highlights include …

    … six musicians who keep getting better looking

    … Plas Johnson RIP, a part of everyone’s life for 60 years

    … the Odyssey and how Hollywood thinks the rest of the world has a foreign accent

    … why you couldn’t make Bugsy Malone today

    … Jonathan Richman’s genuine wide-eyed love of the modern world

    … Clare Torry’s Pink Floyd payday

    … “Styrofoam ice buckets full of ice”: the greatest song ever written about life on the road

    … Mick Jagger, the art of evasion and the exquisite boredom of Stones’ B-sides about America

    … the four rock stars who played the Artful Dodger

    … and what John Wayne said to ‘Jesus’.

    Help us to keep The Longest Continuous Conversation In Rock'n'Roll going: https://www.patreon.com/wordinyourear

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    Georgie Fame, Ben Sidran and the golden age of ‘60s Soho Jul 23, 2026
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    Ben Sidran was in a teenage band with Steve Miller and Boz Scaggs, a session pianist with the Stones in 1969 and carved a brilliant career as a jazz musician, producer, author and broadcaster. He’s just written ‘Cool Cat Blues’ about his old friend and collaborator Georgie Fame and the brief, luminous, pre-rock London blues and jazz scene that launched him. This enthralling conversation looks at the “heavy lift” of being a piano player and Georgie’s unique position in the organic, unhyped, pre-youth scene before the arrival of rock. And covers …

    … the “coal smoke” London of the late ‘60s and Ben recording with the Stones at Olympic

    … the romance and “elephant paths” of the great jazz legends

    … why British musicians were more sophisticated than Americans obsessed with authenticity

    ... the influence of Mose Allison, “a white jazz and blues intellectual with storytelling and social commentary”

    … GI’s bringing black American records to the Flamingo Club

    … how Georgie Fame was “raised by wolves” and the Larry Parnes and Light Entertainment worlds that helped shape him

    … and Yeh Yeh, Get Away and the Ballad Of Bonnie and Clyde, the hits that damaged his reputation.

    Order ‘Cool Cat Blues’ here: https://www.equinoxpub.com/projects/cool-cat-blues

    Help us to keep The Longest Continuous Conversation In Rock'n'Roll going: https://www.patreon.com/wordinyourear

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    Steve Hackett remembers batwings, blues clubs and Genesis on £15 a week Jul 22, 2026
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    Steve Hackett’s seven years in Genesis get re-explored when he tours in October, along with ‘solo gems’ from the records he’s made since, the latest ‘the Roaring Waves’, a collaboration with old pal Steve Rothery. He looks back here at defining moments in the Genesis story such as the stage props, the early American tours and Phil Collins when he met him having just auditioned for Zeffirelli and being “all fur coats and girlfriends”. Along with …

    … when bands stood on fishboxes if there wasn’t a stage

    … playing harmonica through his nose and “open wounds” from American guitars

    .. Cream, John Mayall and the Paul Butterfield Blues Band on Eel Pie Island

    ... what Lennon said about Genesis “in the days before we could tweet it, sadly”

    … Apache, Man Of Mystery and the guitarists Hank Marvin inspired

    … how Phil Collins got to be the band’s singer and the days when Phil and Peter Gabriel did Alan Whicker impressions onstage

    ... Guy Garvey at the Prog Proms

    … the last time the five of them were together and the chance of a reunion

    … and the new album with Steve Rothery, inspired by Whitby and the legend of Dracula.

    Order copies of ‘The Roaring Wave’ here: https://stevehackettsteverothery.lnk.to/TheRoaringWaves-Album

    Order Steve Hackett tickets here: https://myticket.co.uk/artists/steve-hackett and https://www.hackettsongs.com/tours

    Help us to keep The Longest Continuous Conversation In Rock'n'Roll going: https://www.patreon.com/wordinyourear

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    Mari Wilson, our favourite girl about town, takes Neasden to Chelsea Jul 21, 2026
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    Mari Wilson has drunk deep of all that London nightlife has to offer, from a London Transport social club in Wembley to a posh venue in Chelsea via the Cooks Ferry Inn in Edmonton, and she remembers it well. Here she marks the release of her new album “Girl About Town” by talking about:


    •⁠ ⁠making bacon sandwiches for Mott The Hoople

    •⁠ ⁠entertaining her dad’s mates with her Alma Cogan impression

    •⁠ ⁠Half of Scotland coming to stay for the Home Internationals

    •⁠ ⁠touring in a Commer van

    •⁠ ⁠taking her “Klute” hairstyle to watch Stray and the Pink Fairies

    •⁠ ⁠playing Dusty Springfield on the musical stage

    •⁠ ⁠audiences who want to get home in time for Antiques Road Show

    •⁠ ⁠bringing it all back home to the Cadogan Hall, Chelsea, on October 4th:⁠ ⁠https://cadoganhall.com/whats-on/mari-wilson-girl-about-town/

    Help us to keep The Longest Continuous Conversation In Rock'n'Roll going: https://www.patreon.com/wordinyourear

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    All music is dance music! – and the best stage name ever Jul 20, 2026
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    Another over-heated week put through the conversational air-conditioner, which involves …

    … the man who got rich writing words that could never be sung

    … Anna Bullock? Stefani Germanotta? People who’d never have made it if they hadn’t changed their names

    … and the best stage name ever!

    … Marco Pirroni’s jukebox

    … when the Rock'n’Roll rulebook declared ‘Thou Shalt Not Dance!’

    … how David Dundas made a fortune from just four notes

    … Ringo, Dylan, Hank Marvin, Bill Wyman and the magic of cowboy culture

    … who lost out on ‘It’s Only Rock’n’Roll’ and ‘Jessica’?

    … and the biggest star of the 20th Century and how he got his name

    Plus the Bingville Bugle and birthday guest Gianluca Tramontana looks back at when dance music came in for a kicking.

    Help us to keep The Longest Continuous Conversation In Rock'n'Roll going: https://www.patreon.com/wordinyourear

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    Adam & the Ants, pop stardom and Marco Pirroni’s brief spell in the spotlight Jul 15, 2026
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    Marco Pirroni’s moment in the sun was big, lucrative but incredibly short. It was under a year from Adam & the Ants’ first hit to their last and immediate break-up. Adam, he remembers, was the perfect writing partner – driven, intensely competitive and with “a pathological fear of only being Number 2”. He’s got no regrets, hasn’t had to do day’s work since, and looks back here at …


    … being the first band writing songs for the video age


    … “you can’t confuse fans buying records with love, it’s nothing personal”


    … Telstar, Fireball XL5, Roxy Music and the “moon-stomping hits of Slade”


    … playing covers of songs they didn’t like with Siouxsie at the 100 Club: “punk rock and my part in its downfall”


    … Adam’s “Shakespearian tirade” at the legal meeting with Rolf Harris when he sued over Prince Charming and War Canoe


    … Malcolm McLaren’s jukebox: the Flamin’ Groovies, Alice Cooper, the Troggs, “songs that weren’t very good”


    … “we stopped being a punk band or a pop band or a glam band – or any sort of band at all”


    … never tour America when you don’t have a bank account.


    Order ‘Your Money Or Your Life’ here: https://tr.ee/P2_qxNZ6jC

    Help us to keep The Longest Continuous Conversation In Rock'n'Roll going: https://www.patreon.com/wordinyourear

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    The Specials are no more! Horace Panter remembers days when it was ‘like walking on air’ Jul 14, 2026
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    The Specials have officially disbanded, bowing out with a swansong album recorded in the ruins of Coventry Cathedral in 2019. Horace Panter looks back at the first shows they played - when Jim Callaghan was still PM! - and the rigours of mastering ska when some of the group thought it was “old man’s music”. Along with …

    … the dignified way for any band to retire

    … the 2-Tone tour of 1979 – “like a school trip with no teachers”

    … bonding with Terry Hall over comedian Ken Platt: ‘I won't take me coat off, I'm not stoppin'!"

    … the day Jerry Dammers came to rehearsal with Prince Buster’s Greatest Hits – “for all your rebellious needs!”

    … the poignancy of playing in the ruins of Coventry Cathedral when you start the set with an air-raid siren

    … seeing the Faces and Mott the Hoople, “once in my school uniform”

    … the sensory overload - “The space! The volume!” - of Led Zeppelin at the Albert Hall when you’re 15 and from Kettering

    … “strange to think few people under 60 have ever seen the Specials”

    … the bassist he pretended to be when posing in the mirror

    ... the Bilzen Festival in 1979 “when the chain-link fence was broken down and I came offstage like I was walking on air”

    … and creating the 2-Tone look with ex-Mod tonic suits

    Order ‘Live From The Cathedral’ here: https://shop.thespecials.islandrecords.com/

    Help us to keep The Longest Continuous Conversation In Rock'n'Roll going: https://www.patreon.com/wordinyourear

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    Is Indie the new Good Old Days? And why are there no British country stars? Jul 13, 2026
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    As this week’s news hurtles over the net, we sort the aces from the double-faults. The final score …

    … Madonna, Shakira, Chris Martin and World Cup 11-minute half-time overload!

    … how many Stones albums were “the best since Exile On Main Street”?

    … Kevin Rowland’s heart-breaking songs about Life’s Third Act

    … 10 good reasons to miss the Nineties

    … Country & Western is about travelling through the vast geography of America. “Go 200 miles in Britain and you fall off the edge”

    … Florian Pilkington-Miksa, Cedric Bixler-Zavala, Jeffrey Hammond-Hammond: rock’s real (or invented?) double-barrelled names

    … how “travel and never arrive” is the new entertainment experience

    … plus Sly Stone’s Babies Makin’ Babies, the comforting cry of “Gambo’s in the building!” and birthday guest Patrick Butler.

    Help us to keep The Longest Continuous Conversation In Rock'n'Roll going: https://www.patreon.com/wordinyourear

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