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    Latest Episodes:
    When Options Run Out: The Human Side of an Entrapment Aug 26, 2022

    Travis Dotson talks with Brian Crowley about his experience during the entrapment and fire shelter deployment on the Bridger Foothills Fire in Montana in 2020. Brian offers some perspective, not only on surviving as options disappear, but also on supporting each other during the tough times.

    To read the Bridger Foothills Facilitated Learning Analysis visit: https://www.wildfirelessons.net/viewdocument/bridger-foothills-fire-entrapment-a


    Fireline Lessons - Tangible Take-Aways from Recent Incidents May 26, 2022

    Kelly Woods talks with Travis Dotson about lessons gathered from wildland fire incidents occurring in the 2021 fire year. This conversation centers around the Annual Incident Review Summary, a yearly publication based on an in-depth review and analysis of accident reports from the previous fire year. Tune in for some wild stories and a few handy lessons from real-life events.

    Follow along or plan your next training day with the 2021 Incident Review Summary - download it here: https://www.wildfirelessons.net/viewdocument/annual-incident-review-summaries


    Family Business – Two Generations Talk Fire and What’s Important Through the Years Dec 16, 2021

    Kelly Woods talks with Beth Lund and her daughter Allison Lund about the dynamics of two generations of the same family forging careers in wildland Fire. They highlight how even though things have changed across the years, that which grounds them remains the same. Beth and Allison also offer insights on leadership, identity, difficult decisions, and family.


    Reading, Reflecting, and Changing Behavior Sep 16, 2021

    Kelly Woods talks with Erik Apland about his assignment to read all of the entrapment reports housed in the LLC Incident Review Database. Erik provides perspective on the evolution of reports spanning over a century. He highlights how old reports contain modern topics and he also provides some unique thoughts on PPE. In addition, Erik discusses how reading the reports has changed him and will affect his future actions.


    An Entrapment Survival Story: Before, During and After Jun 17, 2021

    In a conversation with Travis Dotson, Chris Fry shares the powerful story of his entrapment and shelter deployment on the 2006 Mudd Fire. We learn several key details about what happened that day. Chris discusses the lessons he has gained during his healing process and how the post-deployment mental health aspects of his experience are what truly motivates Chris to share his story.

    To see more documentation on the 2006 Mudd Fire: https://www.wildfirelessons.net/viewdocument/mudd-fire-engine-ent


    Tree Felling Accidents...What The Numbers Say Apr 22, 2021

    Travis Dotson and Alex Viktora discuss the Tree Felling Accident Analysis – a report comparing 53 different tree felling accidents.

    Topics covered include:

    • Predicting Tree Reactions
    • Hung-Up Trees
    • Helmets
    • Two People at the Base
    • Area Control
    • Escape Routes
    • Accidents During Training

    If you have anything to do with chainsaws on the fireline…tune in.

    Download the report at: https://www.wildfirelessons.net/viewdocument/tree-felling-accident-analysis


    Command Presence Aug 03, 2020

    A conversation with Monica Morrison on Command Presence.

    What is it?

    What does it look and sound like?

    How do you get it?


    Transitions Mar 13, 2020

    Travis Dotson and Brit Rosso have a great discussion about transitions, both on and off the fireline.

    For more on this topic, check out the Fall 2018 issue of Two More Chains: https://www.wildfirelessons.net/viewdocument/two-more-chains-fall-2018


    Slow and Steady: A Conversation between Travis Dotson and Andrew Addey May 29, 2019

    Andrew Addey is currently a Forest Training Officer, a position he landed after ten years on the Sawtooth Interagency Hotshot Crew.

    Travis and Andrew chatted about a ton of important topics, including:

    • Growing our perspective on the job of a Line Officer.
    • Expanding our training beyond the "traditional" courses.
    • The San Antonio Fire Hit by Tree and Medical Extraction.
    • Preparing more than just radio drivers for emergency command roles.
    • Learning from Military Crew Advisor assignments.

    Entrapments Jul 16, 2018

    Why Talk About Entrapments?

    In January 2018, as part of work on the 2017 Annual Incident Review Summary, LLC staffers Travis and Alex recorded this discussion about entrapments. Listen to their wide-ranging conversation to find out more about entrapments, what they really are, why we're reluctant to use the term “Entrapment”—and why we should use this term more often.

    To read more about entrapments in 2017, check out the 2017 Annual Incident Review Summary (Download Now).

    Curious to know more about the Wagon Box incident that is discussed in this podcast? Check it out here.


    Bad Apples May 28, 2018

    In this podcast, Travis Dotson and Brit Rosso introduce the concept of the "Bad Apple" as it applies to the business of wildland fire. To do so, we take a close look at one of our heroes, Paul Gleason, and some decisions Paul made back in 2000 on a fire some of you may have never heard of.

    For more on the topics of Bad Apples, Paul Gleason, and this mystery fire, be sure to check out the Spring 2018 Issue of Two More Chains.


    The Importance of Identity Dec 06, 2017

    In this podcast, we hear from Travis Dotson--a regular on the podcast--and Brit Rosso, the Director of the Wildland Fire Lessons Learned Center and podcast newcomer.

    In the discussion, we try to make sense of the super complex and convoluted topic of "Identity." Travis and Brit tackle a wide range of topics, including:

    • What does it mean to be "All-In?"
    • What are all the ways your identity can get "smashed"?
    • What do we struggle with when we leave the fireline?
    • Do you "throw rocks" at folks struggling with retirement?

    For even more on the topic of Identity, be sure to check out the Fall 2017 Issue of Two More Chains.


    Nuttall Fire Series: Thomas Taylor, Flagstaff IHC Sawyer Jul 04, 2017

    For the 2017 Week of Remembrance, the Wildland Fire Lessons Learned Center is focusing on a single shift on a single fire from July 2004, the Nuttall Fire, which burned on the Coronado National Forest in southeastern Arizona.

    In the final episode of the Nuttall Fire podcast, we hear from Thomas Taylor. Thomas has had a remarkable fire career. He was at H-4 when the Nuttall Fire came to life. Thomas takes us through July 2, 2004 and beyond in this podcast.

    Check out the Nuttall Fire video series on our YouTube channel!

    Read about the Nuttall Fire on our Blog: www.wildfirelessons.wordpress.com

    Be sure to also listen to the entire Nuttall Fire Series of Podcasts!


    Nuttall Fire Series: Jason Virtue, helicopter crewmember Jul 03, 2017

    For the 2017 Week of Remembrance, the Wildland Fire Lessons Learned Center is focusing on a single shift on a single fire from July 2004, the Nuttall Fire, which burned on the Coronado National Forest in southeastern Arizona.

    In this episode, we hear from a firefighter who was assigned to the Nuttall Fire as a helicopter crewmember, Jason Virtue. Jason shares his perspective from Helibase and H-6, and provides us with a few key lessons from July 2, 2004

    Check out the Nuttall Fire video series on our YouTube channel!

    Read about the Nuttall Fire on our Blog: www.wildfirelessons.wordpress.com

    Be sure to also listen to the entire Nuttall Fire Series of Podcasts!


    Nuttall Fire Series: Dan and Corey from Flagstaff IHC Jul 02, 2017

    For the 2017 Week of Remembrance, the Wildland Fire Lessons Learned Center is focusing on a single shift on a single fire from July 2004, the Nuttall Fire, which burned on the Coronado National Forest in southeastern Arizona.

    In this episode, we hear from two former Squad Leaders from the Flagstaff Interagency Hotshot Crew, Dan Martin and Corey Robinson. Dan and Corey share their experiences and lessons from July 2, 2004 on the Nuttall Fire.

    Check out the Nuttall Fire video series on our YouTube channel!

    Read about the Nuttall Fire on our Blog: www.wildfirelessons.wordpress.com

    Be sure to also listen to the entire Nuttall Fire Series of Podcasts!


    2017 Week of Remembrance: Why talk about Nuttall? Jun 28, 2017

    For the 2017 Week of Remembrance, the Wildland Fire Lessons Learned Center is focusing on a single shift on a single fire from 2004- the Nuttall Fire, which burned on the Coronado National Forest in southeastern Arizona.

    Why?

    Listen in to found out!

    Stay tuned here for more on the 2017 Week of Remembrance and the Nuttall Fire:

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/WildlandFireLLC

    Blog:www.wildfirelessons.wordpress.com

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/wildfirelessonslearned


    How NOT to Catch Your UTV on Fire. Jun 07, 2017

    What if your UTV caught on fire? Yeah - it happens. In this mini-episode we get right to the point - why you need to take a real close look at the underside of your UTV.

    Listen to this 5-minute episode - then go inspect that UTV!

    Related Blog Post:

    This Has Happened Before…UTV Floorboard Fire.

    Burn Injuries - Why They're a Big Deal May 19, 2017

    In this episode Alex and Travis chat about wildland firefighter burn injuries.

    • Why are they a bigger deal than we might think?
    • What can we do to make sure we get the treatment we need?
    • What are the lessons from past incidents?
    Get the answers by listening!

    On the Blog:

    Burn Injuries - Wrong Hurts!

    Socks Matter

    Other Related Materials:

    NWCG Memo on Drip Torch Burn Injuries

    Video: Drip Torch Fuel on Pants


    Fuel Geysers: A conversation with Ralph Gonzales Apr 06, 2017

    Unfortunately, when it comes to fuel geysers, there are many popular misconceptions.

    True or False:

    "Fuel geysers only happen when it's hot.”

    “Fuel geysers only happen with chainsaws.”

    “The recent chainsaw recall will fix the fuel geyser issue."

    In this Podcast—that features the latest insights from Ralph Gonzales, an engineer with the U.S. Forest Service—we focus on separating fact from fiction.

    Listen to this conversation. Take the Quiz!

    More resources:

    The National Fuel Geyser Awareness Campaign Website

    Fuel Geyser Reporting Form

    Read about one fuel geyser event mentioned in this podcast: Willow Peak Fire Burn Injury


    Drip Torch Leg Burns Feb 15, 2017

    2016 marked the eighth year in a row that the Wildland Fire Lessons Learned Center has recieved at least one report of a serious burn injury on the leg related to drip torch use. This podcast is just 7 minutes long - a little booster shot of awareness on this topic with a couple of pointers to consider.

    Put fire on the ground...not on your calf.

    Torch Leg Burns

    2015 Burn Injuries


    Scouting...High Risk? Dec 13, 2016

    Do you like scouting? Do you acknowledge the risk involved? Chances are you take on more exposure than you realize whenever you "go take a look". Some super dialed-in folks have died scouting:

    Sawtooth Rx Entrapment (2003)

    Devils Den Fatality (2006)

    Frog Fire Entrapment Fatality (2015)


    The Bull Fire Entrapment Oct 25, 2016

    What is it actually like to "Wag Dodge" it? What does it feel like to realize you are in a bad spot? What are some things you can do to prepare for that moment? In this episode we hear it all directly from the survivor of an entrapment on the Bull Fire in Arizona. Don't just listen - use this story, the lessons shared, and the material linked below to learn something...it could save your skin. Bull Fire Entrapment FLA Would You Hesitate To Use Your Fire Shelter? -


    Lessons and Data Oct 13, 2016

    Where do the lessons live? In this episode we discuss the relationship between lessons and data and why it matters. Along the way we wander through the following topics:

    • Clocks & Clouds
    • Knowing where the Medical Incident Report lives
    • The need for humility
    • Communication with Medivac Helicopters
    • The responsibility for relevance
    Data from past years: Annual Incident Review Summaries

    The Contractor's Dilemma Oct 06, 2016

    In this episode we tackle the "Contractor's Dilemma" - the idea that contract fire resources face different pressures that make some conversations about assignment risk more difficult. Is this an issue? Is it not? Take a listen and share your experiences with us. Tune in to get dialed! Reports related to the discussion: Weiser Complex Dozer Rollover (mentioned by Alex) 2014 Incident Review Summary (pg 9) (has a general description of the "dilemma")


    Emerging Lessons - 2016 Sep 23, 2016

    Alex Viktora and Travis Dotson discuss emerging numbers and lessons from the year so far. Topics discussed include early season physical training medical emergencies, equipment burning up (including lessons about parking in the black), and tire failures. Tune in to get dialed!

    Sequoia and Kings Canyon National Park Rhabdomyolysis LLR

    Deer Creek Fire Engine burn Damage RLS

    Turkey Fire Camp Overrun by Fire RLS

    Broadway Chainsaw Cut RLS

    Crew Carrier Tire Failure RLS


    Chainsaws and Fire Season 2016: a chat with Travis Dotson Aug 12, 2016

    Travis Dotson, Wildland Fire Lessons Learned Center Analyst, has been crunching the numbers on chainsaw incidents during the 2016 fire season. Listen in to hear his thoughts on chainsaws, and what sawyers and crew leaders might do differently based on what he's seen so far this season.


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