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    What Do You Mean By That?

    Join multi-ethnic co-hosts Sara + Misasha – two wickedly smart, heart-led, long-distance best friends – as they help folks talk smarter and think deeper about the world around us. Whether it’s about science, history, current events, social justice, or more, their community consists of people who want to be better humans, to benefit all of us.

    We won’t let the fire hose of information overwhelm us. Whether you’re a seasoned expert or new to the work, you’ll find yourself listening, learning, and feeling inspired to do something new after each episode.

    If you can never get enough knowledge but also don’t want to feel overwhelmed… Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of curious folks who constantly wonder: what do you mean by that?

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    28: Shanicia Boswell: Black Moms Blog and Changing Perspectives Oct 09, 2019
    Show notes

    Creating a space within a space to positively replay black parenthood was the vision of today's guest. Sara and Misasha get to chat with Shanicia Boswell about her unique perspectives as a black parent, and how there's something for everyone on her popular blog.

    Shanicia Boswell is a self-described serial entrepreneur, best known for her Black Moms Blog, where she talks about parenting, culture, and lifestyle from a black mom's point of view. She also has a company called the Self Care Retreat, where she takes women to international retreat destinations to release, relax, and unwind. Shanicia is also an accomplished photographer.

    Show Highlights:

    • Shanicia shares the compelling reasons that prompted her to start her Black Moms Blog.
    • Black Mom's Blog content is about 70% parenting issues, including subjects such as intimacy and self-care that are relevant for any race, and around 30% issues that are more race-specific, with topics such as black hair care, how to be a stronger woman, and maternal death rates for blacks.
    • Caucasian moms are also part of her community. They sometimes show up to meet-ups, and for various reasons: they might have mixed children or may have adopted black children, and have questions when reading the blog articles.
    • Sara, Misasha, and Shanicia discuss relationships and how we connect with different races and sexes.
    • Having conversations can change perspectives, and changing it for one person at a time can have a domino effect and bring about change.
    • There's a discrepancy between advertiser's pay rates among white mom bloggers and black mom bloggers.
    • Shanicia imparts some ways she helps to create positive black experiences for her daughter, who is the only black student in her classroom.
    • Experiencing "Hair Day" with a white friend married to a black man with mixed children: get the food, snacks, and movies ready! Hair is such an important part of black culture.
    • Being labeled a single mother in any community typically carries a stigma, and even more so in the black community. Let's dispel the myth of the single black mom. Shanicia suggests that "single woman" is a more positive narrative.
    • Residential Dad: Instagram's Chronicles of Daddy has joined Black Moms Blog to speak on fatherhood!
    • Shanicia inspires us with her story behind becoming single and the hard work it took to successfully get back on her feet.
    • Self Care Retreat - you're allowed to spend some time away from the kids to care for yourself. Without guilt!
    • Ways you can lead in love: great suggestions for a wonderful, yet often under-used attribute that women possess.

    Resources / Links:

    Website: https://www.dearwhitewomen.com

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    Connect with Shanicia!

    Blog: www.blackmomsblog.com

    Website: www.shaniciaboswell.com

    Instagram: @shaniciaboswell

    Twitter: @blackmomsblog

    Book Mentioned:

    Ada Twist, Scientist, by Andrea Beaty

    Suggested Instagram:

    https://www.instagram.com/chroniclesofdaddy/

    Mentioned Website:

    https://www.shinelifedesign.com


    27: Hispanic Heritage Month: Recognizing the Humanity in Everyone Oct 02, 2019
    Show notes

    Every year, between September 15 - October 15, Hispanic Heritage Month is observed and celebrated by millions of families. Sara and Misasha unpack the history behind it, and the reason it's a painfully awkward event this year. They will also discuss ways that this month might promote some great, yet uncomfortable, conversations around recognizing the humanity in everyone.

    Show Highlights:

    • Hispanic Heritage Month was created back in 1968 as Hispanic Heritage Week from legislation sponsored by Representative Edward Roybal of Los Angeles, and signed into law by President Lyndon B. Johnson, and runs from September 15 - October 15 every year.
    • Hispanic Heritage Month acknowledges five Latin American countries that declared their independence in 1821 from Spain. Those countries are Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, and Nicaragua.
    • The ethnic composition of the people at the border waiting for asylum or medical assistance include many from the above-mentioned countries.
    • Misasha provides some fascinating background on the man behind the legislation, Representative Edward Roybal. This includes Roybal being the recognized leader of Eastside minority groups, co-founded the "House Select Committee on Aging" as a Congressman, and cared about and influenced issues relating to health and citizenship for people well beyond his district. In addition, to inclusive education health programs, he was ahead of the curve on aging, mental health, and fought for the first federal funding on Alzheimer's Disease research.
    • The Roybal family can trace their roots in New Mexico back some eight generations, to before the Spanish settlement of Santa Fe.
    • There is a long history of Hispanic and Latinx service members in the military, dating back to the Civil War, and beyond. Misasha outlines some of their notable war heroes.
    • The Government Accountability Office says that ICE has been deporting non-citizen Hispanic and Latinx veterans without being properly screened. Officials in the Department of Homeland Security, the parent agency of ICE, said they didn't consider the veteran and non-veteran status in removal proceedings and were unaware of policies to the contrary.
    • ICE does not know how many veterans have been placed in removal proceedings or removed.
    • You can be a citizen to serve in the military, but you can also be a green cardholder. A green card holder is someone who is in the United States legally but is not a citizen. If you are not a citizen, you are not allowed to rise above a certain rank.
    • If you are an undocumented immigrant and wanted to enlist, they will run your name against an immigration database, which would flag you as not eligible to serve.
    • Mass deportations: this has happened in our country less than a hundred years ago. During the 1930's and into the 1940's, up to two million Mexicans and Mexican Americans were deported or expelled from cities and towns across the US and shipped to Mexico. According to some estimates, more than half of these people were American citizens, born in the United States. The true impact of this on families in Mexico and the United States is still trying to be understood.
    • Sara shares the story of Emilia Castaneda and her family, victims of the mass deportations.

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    National Hispanic Heritage Month - Resources for Teachers!

    https://www.hispanicheritagemonth.gov/for-teachers/

    Suggested Article:

    https://www.tolerance.org/magazine/unmaking-hispanic-teaching-the-creation-of-hispanic-identity

    Suggested Book:

    Decade of Betrayal: Mexican Repatriation in the 1930s, by Francisco E. Balderrama and Raymond RodrĂ­guez


    26: Summer Recap: Episode Updates, Time with the Kids, and Big Plans for Fall Sep 25, 2019
    Show notes

    Today, we are celebrating our return from spending time with our children for the summer and so much has happened since we were last with you in real-time! So, in this show, we are going to recap some of our topics from our previous episodes, and also catch you up on our summers!

    We're also going to be sharing some of the exciting things we have in store for you this fall. So, sit back, relax and join us for this conversation so we can catch up!

    Show Highlights:

    • There are vast discrepancies in state education standards for teaching about slavery. We discussed this in episode 18 as it relates to who controls history.
    • Our societal structures have been impacted by slavery, whether schools want to teach about it or not.
    • Texas now teaches more than 5 million students that the Civil War wasn't just about slavery, but rather it was more about economics and sectionalism.
    • It doesn't make sense that social studies is required for all students, but it doesn't have the same national standards for what is taught as math and science do.
    • Kids in the US learn about slavery differently depending on where they grow up.
    • Most schools begin talking about African Americans in US history at the point that they are already slaves. When you begin at the point that someone is already dehumanized, you really never see them through a different lens. In order to see them as human beings, you have to start the journey before they were dehumanized.
    • As a country, we still struggle with issues such as kneeling athletes, criminal justice reform, birthright citizenship, and Confederate statutes because we haven't been taught the context of how those things tie directly into slavery.
    • Plantation tours have taken on the task of educating the public about slavery, but the public is pushing back and saying they don't want to have to see the impact of slavery included in the plantation tours.
    • We don't need to take slavery personally and get offended that it is an ugly part of our history.
    • There are some books that you can use to help teach your children about equality. We've linked to the ones we recommend below.
    • In Ep 11 and 12, we shared the real history of the KKK. Those shows are definitely worth listening to if you haven't had a chance to catch those yet.
    • It took Paypal six days to suspend an account raising money for a branch of the KKK. Even after it was flagged by an anti-bigotry campaigner, it still took almost a week for Paypal to take action.
    • Your right to freedom of speech as laid out in the US Constitution ends when it infringes on others.
    • Private companies, like Facebook, Paypal, Instagram, etc. have terms and conditions for the use of their platforms, but they can't always catch everything that's inappropriate.
    • Remember the discussion we had about Stapleton, CO wanting change their name because even though Stapleton was a former Mayor of the town, he was also a KKK member, and used that fact to help him get elected. The town voted overwhelmingly (65% to 35%) NOT to change the name.
    • Our first listener suggested guest, Caster Semenya, has lost her appeal to participate in her sport without taking drugs to alter her body's natural hormonal state. You can learn more about her story by listening to episode 22.
    • We had an episode about the citizenship question possibly being added to the census, and while that did not happen, we now have the Trump administration making it more difficult to obtain birthright citizenship.
    • It's been estimated that the changes to the birthright citizenship rule would affect only about 100 people annually, but for such a small impact why go down this slippery slope?
    • We talked about the separation of migrant children at the border, and while that issue hasn't completely resolved, the administration is now ending protection for migrant children getting lifesaving medical treatment in the US.
    • It's hard to understand how we can send sick children back to their home country and deny them medical treatment, knowing that decision will be a death sentence for them. It's really heartbreaking.
    • Find out our individual lessons learned and takeaways from spending this summer with our children. This includes the impact of visiting Hiroshima and the kid's reaction to it and how taking kids to countries where they didn't speak the language impacted them.
    • This Fall, we have so many exciting plans for the show! You'll have to listen to get a sneak peek!

    Resources:

    Sarah's Key by Tatiana Rosnay

    Mind Hunter, Season Two on Netflix

    Girl, Stop Apologizing by Rachel Hollis

    Three Women by Lisa Taddeo

    The Immortalists by Chloe Benjamin

    Waking Up White by Debby Irving

    Previous Episodes Mentioned:

    Episode 11

    Episode 12

    Episode 15

    Episode 18

    Episode 22


    25: School Lunches: Why Kids Are Going Hungry Sep 18, 2019
    Show notes

    Join Sara and Misasha as they "dish" on school lunches: affordability, why kids are going hungry, and a public comment period that's open until September 23rd, 2019. Federal assistance may potentially be cut for 500,000 kids, so what happens to lunch if that happens? Finally, you don't want to miss Sara and Misasha sharing their favorite childhood school lunches, as well as what their kids eat!

    Show Highlights:

    • There are high numbers of children who rely on breakfast and lunch at school because they don't get fed at home.
    • At the end of July, Pennsylvania officials came under fire for when they attempted to collect money owed for school lunches in one of the poorest districts in the state. After failing to reach families through other modes of communication, the Director of Federal Programs for the Wyoming Valley West School District sent a letter to about 1,000 families who owed an average of $28, stating that "Your child has been sent to school every day without money, and without a breakfast and/or lunch. This is a failure to provide your child with proper nutrition, and you can be sent to Dependency Court for neglecting your child's right to food. If you are taken to Dependency Court, the result may be your child being removed from your home and placed in foster care."
    • After this letter was sent, county officials dismissed the threat, stating it was empty and was not going to be acted on.
    • In the Wyoming Valley West School District in Pennsylvania, 1 in 5 children lives in poverty. In the coming year, free lunches will be provided to ALL students in the district because at least 60% of them meet the federal income threshold to qualify for free school meals.
    • For a family of 4 living in the contiguous United States, if you make $47,638 annually (or the equivalent of $917 per week), you qualify for reduced lunch.
    • The threshold for free school meals is $33,475 annually (or the equivalent of $644 per week). This would mean that a student would qualify for free breakfasts and lunches.
    • For a family of 4, you meet the federal guidelines for poverty if your annual income is less than $25,750.
    • As the example in Pennsylvania highlights, there's a lot of hostility towards low-income students and families who struggle with hunger.
    • In Georgia, Brandy Whitehead's 6-year-old daughter told her mother she was hungry when her mom picked her up from kindergarten in early 2018. Her lunch had only consisted of a cheese sandwich and water. The reason was that over the holiday, Whitehead had overlooked a notice from the school district saying she owed "a couple of dollars in student lunch debt". By the time the students returned to school, the debt had risen to the $12.50 limit allowed before students are served alternative meals.
    • Whitehead's daughter ate several meals of cheese sandwiches before the mom was notified of the debt. The daughter thought she was being punished for something she did, and has not forgotten this experience.
    • Sara and Misasha break down the national school lunch program.
    • Lunch programs not only feed a child's hunger, but they also fuel a child's mental health and physical growth.
    • Experiencing poverty in your early years can have long-lasting, multi-dimensional consequences.
    • Misasha recounts statistics involving racial disparity in hunger.
    • It falls on the shoulders of school administrators to commit to more equitable school lunch practices.
    • Misasha reviews proposals and major changes in the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program ("SNAP") and the School Lunch Program.
    • Here's the good news: While this rule has been proposed, it is not done. You have the ability to go online and voice your concerns, but you only have until September 23rd to do this!

    Links:

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    Best Practices for Preventing or Reducing School Meal Debt

    https://www.frac.org/research/resource-library/best-practices-preventing-reducing-school-meal-debt

    Toolkit for Lunch Lines

    https://www.tolerance.org/magazine/fall-2014/toolkit-for-lunch-lines

    GO TO THIS WEBSITE AND LEAVE YOUR COMMENTS HERE!

    Agency Information Collection Activities; Proposals, Submissions, and Approvals: National School Lunch Program

    https://www.regulations.gov/document?D=FNS-2019-0040-0001

    (Look for the Dark Blue "Comment Now!" Button in the Upper Right-Hand Corner of the Page!)


    24: Kibi Anderson: The Significance of Hair Sep 11, 2019
    Show notes

    Sara and Misasha sit down with Kibi Anderson and explore the topic of HAIR! Growing up in a country like America, where a lot of standards of beauty are not centered around African culture and African qualities, has a profound influence in the black community. Join us as we examine and understand how significant hair is in our development.

    Kibi is a black woman, which is relevant to today's conversation, a storyteller, and has worked in the media and entertainment space for the past 20 years. Currently, Kibi is working for a show called Red Table Talk and running Red Table Talk Enterprises, which is the business behind the hit show starring Jada Pinkett Smith, and her mom and daughter, on Facebook Watch. She is an avid lover of people, and always excited to talk about conversations and topics that are influencing how we act, how we learn, and how we grow.

    Show Highlights:

    • The rich history of black hair, as discussed in Episode 23 ("Hair & Identity: Don't Touch the Hair") of Dear White Women.
    • Misasha recounts her unsettling experiences with people touching her children's hair on the playground.
    • Misasha has recently overheard her children, ages 6 and 5, state that they would like to have straight hair because they think it's "really cool".
    • Pondering what it means to tap into the natural state of our texture. Kibi references Lauryn Hill, a really popular artist from the '90s, and how she had locks, and beautiful natural hairstyles.
    • Kibi relates a book on natural hair care and the tools to take care of it, and this led to her journey of realizing she did not need long or straight hair. This is the first time she cut her hair off.
    • There were magazines that celebrated black beauty and black hairstyles, but many young women wanted to emulate the styles that they were seeing on television and at the movies.
    • Reviewing different hairstyles, techniques, what it takes to take care of them, how long it takes, and more.
    • "Goddess Locks" - faux locks, a new trend which uses the technique of adding braids to your hair, where you add additional hair, but instead of a braid, it's a lock.
    • The CROWN (Create a Respectful and Open Workplace for Natural Hair) Act is a California law that legally protects natural hairstyles.
    • Kibi recalls wrapping her hair at night, after getting her hair done in the salon, back in the day, to keep her hair looking good. She remembers sleeping sitting up in bed, so as not to mess her hair up laying it on a pillow.
    • Moisture for hair is so very important. Wrapping your head with silk instead of cotton is more protective to your curls.
    • Misasha shares a story about her roommate, who refused to go outside in the rain because of her hair. Kibi mentions swimming and working out at the gym as other deterrents, because of the expense of black hair care.
    • Salons become a place where people can really talk, as women gather in one space that has various perspectives, journeys, and struggles.
    • Kibi feels that beauty salons and barbershops have become conduits for beginning to talk about broader issues impacting black culture.
    • The power of barbershop books: encourages young boys (ages 4-9) to read books while they're there, or have someone read to them. Literacy is such an important issue, and you don't have the same access in certain communities or male figures that are present to help with reading.
    • Kristen Davis from "Sex and The City" adopted two black children and was recently interviewed on Red Table Talk. Hair was one of the biggest challenges that she had to deal with. During the adoption process, there are videos that show parents how to manage a child of a different culture. One of the videos featured a young lady who launched a business teaching different-culture parents how to take care of textured hair.
    • Tips on how to encourage self-pride in children.
    • Intent and imitation being the greatest form of flattery when white people wear traditionally black hairstyles. Different is good.

    Links:

    https://www.dearwhitewomen.com

    Email: hello@dearwhitewomen.com

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    Listen to Dear White Women, Episode 23 -

    "Hair & Identity: Don't Touch the Hair"

    https://www.dearwhitewomen.com/episodes/hair-identity

    Watch the Red Table Talk -

    Kristen Davis (from "Sex and The City") Interview

    https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1430912810380278

    Blog Mentioned:

    http://blackmomsblog.com

    Book Mentioned:

    Good Hair: For Colored Girls Who've Considered Weaves When the Chemicals Became Too Ruff, by Lonnice Brittenum Bonner


    23: Hair & Identity: Don't Touch the Hair Sep 04, 2019
    Show notes

    Our hair is undeniably connected to our identity, but what does it mean when random people feel compelled to touch the hair of another, without asking permission? Why do we perceive this as a threat? Why must we be made to feel "other" by someone's words and actions?

    Today, we are going to be discussing hair and identity: black hair, its history in the United States, discrimination around black hair, and why you shouldn't touch someone's hair on the playground.

    Show Highlights:

    • Misasha recounts the mental chatter and overwhelming emotional response at people touching her son's hair at the playground.
    • Sara describes a man going out of his way to touch her daughter's hair during a trip to Japan, and the protective feelings that ensued.
    • Sara asked a white friend with very curly hair if people came up and touched her hair. Sara wondered if the hair-touching was a curly-hair curiosity or a racial one.
    • Sara's friend responded affirmatively that people DO touch her hair, but ask for permission every single time. Her friend also noted that she has seen people randomly touching the curly hair of a person of color without asking permission.
    • In this country, there has been a long history of black hair being considered inferior and the "other".
    • In the 1400s, Europeans who had gone to Africa noticed the elaborate hairstyles, such as locks, plates, and twists, but when these people were brought to America as slaves, that hair became de-humanizing (for example, it was referred to as "wool" by white people), and they couldn't retain these fantastic hairstyles.
    • By the 1800s, there was an obvious discrepancy related to hair: lighter-skinned, straight-haired slaves commanded higher prices at slave auctions than darker, more "kinky-haired" ones.
    • Internalizing this color-consciousness, even black people in that time period promoted the ideas that black with dark skin and "kinky hair" are less attractive and worth less.
    • In 1865. slavery technically ended, but whites looked upon black women who styled their hair as white women, as "well-adjusted". There was a socialization and a marginalization that happened. "Good hair" became a prerequisite for entering churches, schools, social groups, and business networks. If you didn't have hair like white women, you didn't have access to the same acceptance.
    • This idea has carried over into today's society, where natural hair is mainly viewed as unprofessional and unkempt.
    • In a 2016 study, an overwhelming bias towards smoother hair types and against natural hair types was found, which leaves black women vulnerable to discrimination.
    • In 1880, metal hot combs were readily available in the United States (although they were invented by the French in 1845) to heat, press, and temporarily straighten curly hair.
    • In the 1900's, Madam CJ Walker developed a line of hair care products designed for black hair care, and she popularized the press and curl style. Some people criticize her for encouraging black women to look white.
    • Madam CJ Walker is listed in the Guinness Book of World Records as the first American, female, self-made millionaire. She also happened to be black.
    • By 2006, black hair care is a billion-dollar industry. In Style magazine did a nation-wide survey and found that on average, black women spend $1,114 per year on hair products, and treatments, and 23% of black women get their hair relaxed.
    • By 2017, 9 times more was spent on ethnic hair and beauty products compared to their non-black counterparts.
    • Reclaiming natural hair has become a social statement. Misasha gives an overview of natural hair, the Jheri curls, and braids and beads.
    • Under Title 7 of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, employers are allowed to enforce dress code and appearance policies that include the regulation of hair. The EEOC, which enforces these laws, states that employers can impose rules calling for neutral hairstyles, which have to be applied to everyone, equally, regardless of race.
    • Misasha provides some examples of how this can sometimes be used against people of color.
    • Sara talks about discrimination in the workplace based solely on hair.
    • Workplace discrimination is terrible but is heartbreaking when it comes to school. Sara and Misasha discuss the 2013 case of 7-year-old Tiana Parker, who was banned from wearing her hair in dreadlocks at a charter school. The school later came under fire for its stand and has since updated its policies.
    • Please read more about this issue, and think about how you view different hairstyles and consider your own biases.
    • Please do not touch the hair. Always ask permission, but talk to the parent first. Please consider how your words and action might make the child and the family feel.

    Links:

    https://www.dearwhitewomen.com

    Email: hello@dearwhitewomen.com

    Like us on Facebook! https://www.facebook.com/dearwhitewomenpodcast/

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    Mentioned Resources:

    Book

    Hair Story: Untangling the Roots of Black Hair in America, by Ayana Byrd

    Website

    http://thirstyroots.com

    Documentary

    Good Hair, directed by Jeff Stilson and produced by Chris Rock


    22: Caster Semenya: When Protecting Women Hurts Women Aug 28, 2019
    Show notes

    Throughout history, women have consistently faced more scrutiny in the public eye. While we've made tremendous progress, we've also made detrimentally large steps backward.

    Caster Semenya, an Olympic gold medalist, is one of the many women who can attest to the direct discrimination and violation females face in sports. As an athlete, Caster has experienced years of double-standards, invasive medical examinations, and unnecessary intervention throughout her career.

    Today, Sara and Misasha discuss the issues with the way gender is treated and evaluated in sports and why we should all take action. This episode is packed with educational and insightful takes on how we view gender and athletic norms.

    Show Highlights:

    • Contrasting Caster Semenya to Michael Phelps
    • Who is Caster Semenya and why she's a reoccurring controversial topic
    • What an Intersex condition is and how it impacts those who have it
    • Unpacking the issues of dividing gender with arbitrary measurements
    • How genetics come into play in sports
    • The direct discrimination Caster Semenya has faced throughout her career
    • The slippery slope with trying to create a metric to identify gender
    • Why normalizing male athletics is dismissive and discriminatory to women
    • How measuring hormones is a step back from recognizing women as athletes
    • How to take action in changing the standards for women's athletics

    Links:

    https://www.dearwhitewomen.com

    Email: Hello@dearwhitewomen.com

    Instagram: @Dearwhitewomenpodcast

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dearwhitewomenpodcast/

    Twitter: @Dwwpodcast

    Resources mentioned:

    Washington Post Article about Caster Semenya


    21: The Alphabet Rockers: Making Music that Makes Change Aug 21, 2019
    Show notes

    Creating an atmosphere that celebrates and encourages individuals no matter their race, gender, sexual orientation, or political views is the vision we are all collectively striving to achieve. The Alphabet Rockers have taken the initiative to expand that vision and bring social and racial awareness to classrooms.

    Today's interview with band member, Kaitlin McGaw, unpacks the importance of implementing a diverse perspective at a young age and how to facilitate that as a parent and administrator. Misasha, Sara, and Kaitlin dive into what it really means to be representative of diversity and a multicultural narrative. Join us for this reflective episode to learn more about taking a stance to break cycles of oppression.

    Show Highlights:

    • Bringing an equity lens to race in schools and bringing awareness to students
    • The importance of exposure and having conversations with multiethnic individuals
    • What influenced and inspired Kaitlin to make music that celebrates social justice
    • Why it's vital to talk to children about race from an early age
    • The power of administrative influence and how the atmosphere reflects on students
    • Allowing space for compassion despite political views
    • Empowering children to stand up for their emotions and what they believe in
    • Teaching children how to be change-makers and encouraging empathy
    • Talking to wealthy, white communities about racism and creating a model for vulnerability
    • Why it's necessary to have in-person conversations about difficult topics
    • How to gauge when to combat micro-aggressions and when to let them go
    • The Alphabet Rockers podcast and behind the scenes of their upcoming album

    Links:

    https://www.dearwhitewomen.com

    Email: Hello@dearwhitewomen.com

    Instagram: @Dearwhitewomenpodcast

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dearwhitewomenpodcast/

    Twitter: @Dwwpodcast

    Connect with Kaitlin:

    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/so-get-me-alphabet-rockers-podcast-for-families-making/id1465530776

    https://alphabetrockers.com

    Instagram: alphabetrockers

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/alphabetrockers/


    20: Hate at School: How to Help Your Child Cope Aug 14, 2019
    Show notes

    Today, we're going to be sharing some reports with you, such as this one released just this year by the Southern Poverty Law Center, titled "Hate at School".

    Teachers told SPLC in informal surveys that in many cases, Trump's name was being invoked or his words parroted by children who were harassing others based on race, their ethnicity, religion, or sexual orientation. They noted a disturbing uptake in incidence involving swastikas, derogatory language, nazi salutes, and confederate flags. Children of color reported that they were worried for themselves and for the safety of their families.

    Today's discussion involves the perpetuation of hate, when it comes to school, and why your school and others are still segregated. Hang on to your seat, this is going to be a bumpy ride!

    Show Highlights:

    • Misasha shares a personal experience involving her young son's questions about Trump and the dilemma, upon reflection, of trying to answer her son's questions honestly.
    • Sara and Misasha discuss the Southern Poverty Law Center's 2019 Report on "Hate at School".
    • In Wisconsin, dozens of male high school students, almost all white, were seen giving a nazi salute in a prom photo.
    • In Idaho, elementary school staff dressed up as Mexicans and Trump's wall on Halloween.
    • At an elite private school in New York City, a video went viral involving two 6th grade girls wearing black faces and swinging their arms around like apes.
    • In New York, a middle school student wrote in a text book that he will lynch the black husband of a white teacher.
    • In Illinois, white elementary students called black students apes and monkeys.
    • In Minnesota, a middle school student tells a Latinx child that his mother should be in jail with all the illegal immigrants.
    • In Massachusetts, a 10 year old Muslim girl receives a note saying, "You're a terrorist. I will kill you."
    • In Oklahoma, a 5th grader draws a swastika and writes, "White Power" on his hand.
    • Intention doesn't matter, but impact does. If the things you say have an impact and hurt your targets, then it doesn't matter whether you made the comments out of ignorance or you made them out of hatred.
    • It's not always easy to recognize that what comes out of your mouth may hurt somebody, so we need to continue to educate ourselves over things that we can say to hurt others unwittingly.
    • When you accidentally hurt someone, you apologize, and learn from that, and you're more careful next time.
    • Study by Daniel L. Ames and Susan T. Fiske illustrates the psychological impact of intent. Participants in the study read about a CEO who cost the employees part of their paychecks through a bad investment. In one scenario, it was said that the CEO intentionally wanted the employees to work harder for a profit in the future. In the second scenario, it was said that the CEO simply made a bad investment, it was an unfortunate mistake. Participants saw the paycheck cut as more damaging to employees and their families in the former scenario, even though the employees suffered the exact same objective financial loss. In a series of similar studies, it was consistently shown that people are more motivated to assign blame when a harmful act is seen as intentional.
    • SPLC documented 821 school-based incidents of hate that were reported to the media in 2018.
    • By comparison, in their study of K-12 educators who responded to a specific questionnaire that they passed out, over 3,000 such incidences were reported in 2018 alone.
    • More than 2/3 of the 3,000 educators who responded to the questionnaire witnessed a hate or biased incident in their school during the fall of 2018. Fewer than 5% of the incidents witnessed by educators were actually reported in the news.
    • Racism appeared to be the motivation behind most hate and biased incidents in school, accounting for 63% of incidents reported in the news, and 33% of incidents reported by teachers.
    • Out of the incidents reported by educators, those involving racism and anti-Semitism were the most likely to be reported in the news media.
    • Anti-Latinx and anti-LGBTQ incidents were the least likely to be reported in the news media.
    • Most of the hate and biased incidents witnessed by the educators were not addressed by school leaders. No-one was disciplined in 57% of the instances. 9 times out of 10, administrators failed to denounce the bias, and they failed to reaffirm school values.
    • To ensure that students are safe from harm, SPLC recommends that educators must take vigorous, pro-active measures to counter prejudice, and to promote equity and inclusiveness. Educators must act swiftly and decisively to address all incidents of hate and bias when they happen, with a model that emphasizes communication, empathy, reconciliation, and support to those who are harmed.
    • May 17th marked the 65th anniversary of the landmark Brown v Board of Education case, where the Court ruled that laws establishing racial segregation in public schools are unconstitutional.
    • Misasha provides historical details on the Brown v Board of Education case and explains "De facto" segregation - More recent forms of school segregation that are supported by alternative mechanisms, which are slightly more difficult to regulate through law: or segregation that happens as a matter of fact.
    • In a recent New York Times article, more than half of the nation's school children are in racially-concentrated districts, where over 75% of students are either white or non-white.
    • School districts are often separated by income.
    • Case Study: Central High School in Tuscaloosa, Alabama in the late 70's was not just a renowned local high school, but it was one of the signature integration success stories. In 2000, another Federal Judge reversed the desegregation mandate that had been in place for the last 20 years didn't need to be in place anymore because it had achieved integration success and the school could manage that going forward.
    • Civil Rights Project 2011 Report statistics are discussed.
    • What is the difference between desegregation versus sincere and internally motivated integration?
    • 96% of major employers say it's important to be comfortable working with colleagues, customers, and / or clients from diverse, cultural backgrounds.
    • How private schools have gotten around the "De facto" segregation.
    • Questions we need to ask ourselves and taking a closer look at our school districts.

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    Mentioned Resources:

    https://www.bravecoalition.com

    https://nces.ed.gov

    https://civilrightsproject.ucla.edu

    https://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/index.html

    https://projects.propublica.org/miseducation

    Reports and Articles:

    Southern Poverty Law Center's 2019 Report on "Hate at School"

    https://www.splcenter.org/sites/default/files/tt_2019_hate_at_school_report_final_0.pdf

    Intentional Harms Are Worse, Even When They're Not

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4470288/

    Brown v Board of Education - Landmark Decision Regarding Racial Segregation in Schools

    https://www.uscourts.gov/educational-resources/educational-activities/history-brown-v-board-education-re-enactment

    Still Separate, Still Unequal: Teaching about School Segregation and Educational Inequality

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/02/learning/lesson-plans/still-separate-still-unequal-teaching-about-school-segregation-and-educational-inequality.html


    19: Redlining: Institutionalizing Discriminatory Lending Aug 07, 2019
    Show notes

    Have you heard of redlining? If so, do you know what it means today? And are you aware that the Federal Housing Administration (FHA), created by President Roosevelt in 1934, actually institutionalized the system of discriminatory lending in government-backed mortgages in America?

    Today, we're talking about redlining. In the 1930s, government surveyors, developed by the Homeowners Loan Coalition, graded neighborhoods in 239 American cities, using color-coded maps to indicate the level of security for real estate investments. These maps were based purely on assumptions about the various communities.

    Tune into this episode of Dear White Women to hear about the Federal Housing Administration and why it was created, to learn about what redlining is and how it impacted homeownership almost a century ago, and to find out how all of this ties into patterns of gentrification today.

    Show Highlights:

    • The function of the FHA is to provide mortgage insurance on loans made by FHA approved lenders throughout the United States.
    • The color-coded maps were not at all about the ability of households to satisfy lending criteria because they were based on assumptions about the community.
    • What the different colors indicated about the neighborhoods.
    • The FHA publications at the time implied that different races should not share neighborhoods.
    • In 1941, a white developer built a concrete wall between the white and black areas so that the white people could obtain mortgages.
    • Statistics from the Federal Reserve show that white families now have ten times the net worth of black families and more than eight times that of Hispanic families.
    • Some things that people were asked to put on the mortgage loan application forms about the neighborhood.
    • Creating the foundation for systemic discrimination in terms of lending, mortgages, and neighborhood construction.
    • A National Community Reinvestment Coalition (NCRC) study found that three out of four neighborhoods that were redlined in the government maps eighty years ago, continue to struggle economically.
    • The problem with gentrification.
    • Systemic issues and the after-effects of redlining.
    • How architectural changes became a signal of gentrification, with white buyers, and non-whites being forced out.
    • What you can do to remedy the situation.

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