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    Weird Little Guys

    Weird Little Guys is a weekly show about the worst people you’ve never heard of, taking you beyond the headlines to get to know the race warriors and aspiring terrorists trying to unravel the fabric of our society. Weaving together the origin stories of modern American white supremacist groups and the crimes that land their members in court, independent journalist Molly Conger exposes the monsters for what they really are – some weird guy. Whether they’re conspiring to build bombs or serving swastika shaped cookies at a dinner party, the weird little guys trying to destroy America are a little less scary with their masks off. 

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    Say a Good Word for Slavery: Jack Kershaw, Pt. 3 Apr 30, 2026
    Show notes

    In the final part of the story about Jack Kershaw, we'll talk about his legal career. Before he represented MLK's assassin, before he sculpted a gigantic racist statue out of old bathtubs, he got a law degree from a part time night school program at the YMCA so he could do his part to stop integration.
    Sources:
    Phillips, Betsy. Dynamite Nashville: the FBI, the KKK, and the bombers beyond their control. Third Man Books 2021.
    Houston, Benjamin, et al. “‘We Kept the Discussion at an Adult Level’: Jack Kershaw and the Tennessee Federation for Constitutional Government.” Southern Cultures, vol. 20, no. 4, 2014, pp. 72–88. JSTOR, http://www.jstor.org/stable/26217566

    Graham, Hugh Davis. “Desegregation in Nashville: The Dynamics of Compliance.” Tennessee Historical Quarterly, vol. 25, no. 2, 1966, pp. 135–54. JSTOR, http://www.jstor.org/stable/42622869

    McMillen, Neil R. “Organized Resistance to School Desegregation In Tennessee.” Tennessee Historical Quarterly, vol. 30, no. 3, 1971, pp. 315–28. JSTOR, http://www.jstor.org/stable/42623247

    Michael J. Henry, Student Display of the Confederate Flag in Public Schools, 33 J.L. & EDUC. 573 (2004).
    https://scholarcommons.sc.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2824&context=jled

    Egerton, Joel. Walking into History: The Beginning of School Desegregation in Nashville
    https://southernspaces.org/2009/walking-history-beginning-school-desegregation-nashville/

    https://www.ahcuah.com/lawsuit/federal/melton.htm

    https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/FSupp/328/88/1428295/

    https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hatewatch/klanbly-friendly-tennessee-state-becomes-hate-tourist-mecca/

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/42777957/james-n-mason/

    https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/BR/81/897/1821803/
    https://tennesseeencyclopedia.net/entries/the-fugitives/

    https://tennesseeencyclopedia.net/entries/clinton-desegregation-crisis/
    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/24/us/nashville-civil-rights-bombings.html

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    The Princess in the Parking Lot Apr 23, 2026
    Show notes

    Police in New Jersey arrested a woman found sleeping in her car in a strip mall parking lot after the plates came back registered to a stolen vehicle. Her lawyer, Tennessee segregationist Jack Kershaw, insisted that his client was not only innocent, but said she was telling the truth - she really was a Romanian princess.
    Sources:
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/1509995/HRH-Prince-Carol-of-Romania.html

    https://www.nytimes.com/1979/12/23/archives/new-jersey-weekly-the-princess-and-the-police-once-upon-the.html

    https://www.upi.com/Archives/1982/07/15/Lawsuit-against-princess-dismissed/2985395553600/

    https://stiri.botosani.ro/stiri/actualitate/paul-de-romania-mai-are-un-frate-printul-alexandru.html

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    CZM Rewind: Disney's Villain Apr 16, 2026
    Show notes

    After losing his job, an ex-Disney employee tried to get his former employer's attention by hacking in and making strange updates to company files.

    Original Air Date: 6.5.25
    Sources:
    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69534211/united-states-v-scheuer/
    https://www.eeoc.gov/what-you-can-expect-after-you-file-charge
    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/26/us/disney-worker-prison-hacking.html

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    Playboy Payola: Jack Kershaw, Pt. 2 Apr 09, 2026
    Show notes

    Decades before he sculpted a Confederate general out of old bathtubs, Jack Kershaw briefly represented his most famous client - Martin Luther King Jr's assassin, James Earl Ray. The relationship soured after Ray discovered his lawyer had pocketed a payment from Playboy magazine.
    Sources:
    James McKinley, "Playboy Interview: James Earl Ray," Playboy Magazine, September 1977
    https://www.nytimes.com/1977/08/09/archives/polygraph-indicates-ray-lied.html

    https://www.nytimes.com/1977/10/25/archives/james-earl-ray-wants-mark-lane-to-replace-his-tenth-lawyer.html
    https://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/28/sports/the-barkley-marathons-few-know-how-to-enter-fewer-finish.html

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    Strange People on the Hill feat. Michael Edison Hayden Apr 03, 2026
    Show notes

    Molly interviews Michael Edison Hayden about his new book, Strange People on the Hill: How Extremism Tore Apart a Small Town. The book is an intimate portrait of what happened in Berkeley Springs, West Virginia after a white nationalist group moved into the castle on the hill.
    Preorder the book now or buy it anywhere books are sold when it comes out on April 7, 2026

    https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/michael-edison-hayden/strange-people-on-the-hill/9781645030607/

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    The Ugliest Confederate Statue in the World: Jack Kershaw, Pt. 1 Apr 02, 2026
    Show notes

    Jack Kershaw created his most famous piece of art in his 80s. His lifelong passion for the arts had to take a backseat when he shifted his focus to becoming a professional racist during the fight against integration. He was doing it for his confederate ancestors, he would often say. But he was never very specific about who exactly his ancestors were...
    The It Could Happen Here episode mentioned, originally aired 2/22/2024 -
    https://open.spotify.com/episode/1ZQAqsxImsNGQUTzHGKhNp
    Sources:
    https://thesewaneepurple.org/2021/03/23/polk-sculpture-donated-by-white-supremacist-jack-kershaw/

    https://thesewaneepurple.org/2021/03/22/polk-sculpture-removed-by-student-taken-to-archives/

    https://meridiana.sewanee.edu/2022/04/30/a-year-later-a-letter-of-explanation/

    https://www.moca.org/collection/work/unmanned-drone

    https://religiondispatches.org/2025/10/28/swords-plowshares

    https://www.sipcville.com/

    https://www.vpm.org/news/2026-03-23/swords-into-plowshares-cville-jefferson-school-designs-hood-push-mass

    https://www.vpm.org/news/2024-05-23/swords-into-plowshares-robert-e-lee-statue-charlottesville-centennial

    https://www.npr.org/2021/02/23/970610428/nearly-100-confederate-monuments-removed-in-2020-report-says-more-than-700-remai

    https://segregationinamerica.eji.org/report/confederate-icongraphy.html

    https://wpln.org/post/even-as-statue-forrest-still-draws-fire/

    https://www.upi.com/Archives/1982/03/30/Ray-says-lawyer-hid-Playboy-fee/1722386312400/
    The Late Show With Stephen Colbert, August 2017
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvCjM1lPwg4

    Last Week Tonight With John Oliver, October 2017
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5b_-TZwQ0I

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    Minisode: The Real Earl Turner Apr 01, 2026
    Show notes

    Before we leave the novels of William Luther Pierce behind us, let's take a quick look at the real Earl Turner. The protagonist of The Turner Diaries was, like all of Pierce's characters, named after a real guy he knew.

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    The Nazi's Mary Sue: Hunter, Pt. 2 Mar 26, 2026
    Show notes

    At the end of this exploration of nazi serial killer Joseph Paul Franklin and the novel loosely based on his crimes, the question remains: did any of his friends in the white power movement know what he was going to do before he did it? What clues does the novel hold?
    Sources:
    Pierce, Kelvin. Sins of My Father, Growing Up with America's Most Dangerous White Supremacist. Independently Published, 2020
    Griffin, R. S. (2001). The Fame of a Dead Man’s Deeds. 1st Books Library.
    Mel Ayton, Dark Soul of the South: The Life and Crimes of Racist Killer Joseph Paul Franklin, Potomac Press, Inc., 2011
    Sunshine, Spencer (2024). Neo-Nazi Terrorism and Countercultural Fascism: The Origins and Afterlife of James Mason’s Siege (1st ed.). New York, NY: Routledge
    Bill Simmons, "Defendants All Acquitted In Sedition Trial," AP News, April 8, 1988
    https://www.kcur.org/news/2024-04-12/overland-park-antisemitic-murders-jewish-community-center-shooting-survivors

    https://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/article2595772.html

    http://www.kansas.com/2014/04/15/3406670/records-suggest-federal-authorities.html

    https://momentsthatsurvive.org/tribute/pierce-hastings/

    https://www.wunc.org/2014-04-15/an-idiot-with-a-gun-leaves-families-in-kansas-reeling

    https://www.kmbc.com/article/shooting-victim-remembered-for-upbeat-attitude-work-with-kids/3681879

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    The Nazi's Mary Sue: Hunter, Pt. 1 Mar 19, 2026
    Show notes

    A closer look at the second novel by the man who wrote The Turner Diaries reveals that it isn't just about serial killer Joseph Paul Franklin... it's the author's fantasy about the man he wishes he could have been.

    Sources:

    Pierce, Kelvin. Sins of My Father, Growing Up with America's Most Dangerous White Supremacist. Independently Published, 2020

    Thomas Martinez, Brotherhood of Murder: The Shocking Inside Story of The Order. McGraw Hill, 1988

    Griffin, R. S. (2001). The Fame of a Dead Man’s Deeds. 1st Books Library.

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    One Man Race War: Joseph Paul Franklin, Pt. 6 Mar 12, 2026
    Show notes

    As we approach the end of the series on nazi serial killer Joseph Paul Franklin, the rest of the timeline is filled in. Shortly after murdering two young men in Utah, Franklin was arrested at a motel in Kentucky after calling to complain that a police car had him double parked.
    Sources:
    Mel Ayton, Dark Soul of the South: The Life and Crimes of Racist Killer Joseph Paul Franklin, Potomac Press, Inc., 2011
    Ralph Echols, Life Without Mercy: Jake Beard, Joseph Paul Franklin and the Rainbow Murders,
    Sunshine, Spencer (2024). Neo-Nazi Terrorism and Countercultural Fascism: The Origins and Afterlife of James Mason’s Siege (1st ed.). New York, NY: Routledge
    Flynn, Kevin, and Gary Gerhardt. The Silent Brotherhood: Inside America's Racist Underground Free Press ; Collier Macmillan, 1989.

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