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    True Crime

    We Saw the Devil: A True Crime Podcast

    Day-by-day courtroom coverage of the cases everybody’s arguing about, done with the filings in front of me. Not vibes. Not a theory somebody’s cousin saw on TikTok. The actual record: what the witness said, what the document says, which expert has never treated the condition they were hired to testify about. Murder, medical neglect, prosecutorial games, and the cases nobody bothers covering because the victim wasn’t the right kind of victim.

    Then the part most true crime skips. Who let it happen. Which agency looked away, which law made it possible, which doctor never returned the call, which department was too underfunded to answer the phone. Every case sits inside a system, and the system is usually the whole story. That’s where the politics shows up, and it shows up because the facts drag it in, not because I went looking for a soapbox.

    Hosted by Robin Coleman. Sourced, furious, filthy, and allergic to pretending cruelty is just another perspective. Y’all, this is not a polite little show for people who want everything softened, centered, and served with a bipartisan garnish.

    No spin. No filter. Just facts. We don’t do fair. We do factual.

    Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/we-saw-the-devil-a-true-crime-podcast–4433638/support.

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    CULT: Heaven's Gate (Origins: Part I) Sep 16, 2020
    Show notes

    Welcome to the second entry in our new CULT series! We will be covering the infamous Heaven's Gate group for the next couple of episodes. In this one, we do a quick biography of Marshall Applewhite Jr. and Bonnie Lou Nettles, the group's co-founders.
    If you haven't, please check out our last episode, an overview of the bizarre cult Love Has Won! We will continue full coverage of the Lori Vallow case, and the next update episode will be coming out shortly.
    ****Pardon the slightly over-processed audio. Due to living in Oregon and being near the wildfires with the worst air quality in the world, we have a lot of background noise from fans and filters. Our standard audio quality will resume shortly.
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    Website: http://www.wesawthedevil.com
    Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/WeSawtheDevil
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    We would like to thank our Executive Producers:
    Maureen M
    Tamara R
    Emalie S
    Michele K
    Ylana Dawn M
    Faye S
    Christy K
    Ashley B
    Ashley M
    LeeAnn M
    Cristi R
    Shawna S
    Iris-Dora S
    Ian M
    Elizabeth B
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    ...as well as all of our other Patrons! Thank you for making this possible! Check us out on Patreon.com/WeSawtheDevil if you would like to support the show!
    Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/we-saw-the-devil-a-true-crime-podcast--4433638/support.
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    Lori Vallow: Guilty? Not Guilty? News From the Week Sep 11, 2020
    Show notes

    It's Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell time! For this episode, we review news from the last week and also discuss Lori's arraignment. Did she plead Guilty or Not Guilty?
    ***Please excuse us if the audio quality is less than it normally is. We currently live in Portland, OR and are experiencing smoke from the wildfires, so we have many fans/purifiers on in order to mitigate it. Please bear with us.
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    Website: http://www.wesawthedevil.com
    Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/WeSawtheDevil
    Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/wesawthedevi...
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    We would like to thank our Executive Producers:
    Maureen M
    Tamara R
    Emalie S
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    Faye S
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    Ashley B
    Ashley M
    LeeAnn M
    Cristi R
    Shawna S
    Iris-Dora S
    Ian M
    Elizabeth B
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    ...as well as all of our other Patrons! Thank you for making this possible! Check us out on Patreon.com/WeSawtheDevil if you would like to support the show!
    Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/we-saw-the-devil-a-true-crime-podcast--4433638/support.
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    CULT: Love Has Won Sep 09, 2020
    Show notes

    This is a story all about how a former McDonalds manager became a god, formed a New Age cult, moved to Hawaii with her followers and fleeces people for drug money. Psychic surgeries. 5D Earth. Drugs. Sex. And more portals! This is the story of LOVE HAS WON.
    Our next Lori Vallow episode will be coming TOMORROW, as we will discuss all news from the past week, as well as her arraignment. Will she plead Guilty or Not Guilty? That is the question.
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    Website: http://www.wesawthedevil.com
    Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/WeSawtheDevil
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    We would like to thank our Executive Producers:
    Maureen M
    Tamara R
    Emalie S
    Michele K
    Ylana Dawn M
    Faye S
    Christy K
    Ashley B
    Ashley M
    LeeAnn M
    Cristi R
    Shawna S
    Iris-Dora S
    Ian M
    Elizabeth B
    Michelle P
    Christina S
    ...as well as all of our other Patrons! Thank you for making this possible! Check us out on Patreon.com/WeSawtheDevil if you would like to support the show!
    Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/we-saw-the-devil-a-true-crime-podcast--4433638/support.
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    Armin Meiwes: The Master Butcher. The Consensual Cannibal. Aug 31, 2020
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    Armin Meiwes sought victims in an online forum called The Cannibal Cafe. His desire? To have sex with and then consume a living man. Bernd Brandes, an engineer from Berlin, wanted just that...except he wanted to be eaten.
    This is their story.
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    Website: http://www.wesawthedevil.com
    Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/WeSawtheDevil
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    We would like to thank our Executive Producers:
    Maureen M
    Tamara R
    Emalie S
    Michele K
    Ylana Dawn M
    Faye S
    Christy K
    Ashley B
    Ashley M
    LeeAnn M
    Cristi R
    Shawna S
    Amy S
    Iris-Dora S
    Ian M
    Elizabeth B
    Michelle P
    Christina S
    ...as well as all of our other Patrons! Thank you for making this possible! Check us out on Patreon.com/WeSawtheDevil if you would like to support the show!
    Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/we-saw-the-devil-a-true-crime-podcast--4433638/support.
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    The Lori Vallow Case: Who is Jason Mow? Aug 26, 2020
    Show notes

    Who is Jason Mow? Why does his name keep popping up everywhere? Why did Melanie Gibb name drop him in the Gilbert, AZ Police Department? How does he know Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell?
    Here's what we know.
    ******If you would like to watch the video version with sources, please check our our Youtube video of this episode!
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    Website: http://www.wesawthedevil.com
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    We would like to thank our Executive Producers:
    Maureen M
    Tamara R
    Emalie S
    Michele K
    Ylana Dawn M
    Faye S
    Christy K
    Ashley B
    Ashley M
    LeeAnn M
    Cristi R
    Shawna S
    Amy S
    Iris-Dora S
    Ian M
    Elizabeth B
    Michelle P
    Christina S
    ...as well as all of our other Patrons! Thank you for making this possible! Check us out on Patreon.com/WeSawtheDevil if you would like to support the show! We can only do this with your support!
    Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/we-saw-the-devil-a-true-crime-podcast--4433638/support.
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    The Lori Vallow Case: Murder Charges? "Not Guilty," Insanity Defense, & Joseph Ryan's Death Aug 21, 2020
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    For this episode, we will be discussing Chad Daybell's arraignment that just happened today, the Idaho Insanity Defense (or lack thereof), Lori Vallow's upcoming hearing, legal documents, as well as Joseph Ryan's death.
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    Maureen M
    Tamara R
    Emalie S
    Michele K
    Ylana Dawn M
    Faye S
    Christy K
    Ashley B
    Ashley M
    LeeAnn M
    Cristi R
    Shawna S
    Amy S
    Iris-Dora S
    Ian M
    Elizabeth B
    Michelle P
    Christina S
    ...as well as all of our other Patrons! Thank you for making this possible! Check us out on Patreon.com/WeSawtheDevil if you would like to support the show!
    Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/we-saw-the-devil-a-true-crime-podcast--4433638/support.
    Website: http://www.wesawthedevil.com
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    Gina Osborn, FBI Special Agent, Discusses Spycraft, Forensics, & Lori Vallow Aug 17, 2020
    Show notes

    This week, we had the distinct pleasure and honor of speaking with Gina Osborn. Gina is a retired Special Agent with the FBI, Army veteran, podcaster and motivational speaker. She co-hosts the podcast Behind the Crime Scene – A True Crime Podcast, where she and L.A. Senior Prosecutor Tracy Miller discuss true crime cases which have long haunted crime fighters, showcasing the human side of first responders, investigators and prosecutors. We rarely personally endorse other podcasts, but guys: We demand that you give them a listen. Demand.
    For this episode, we discuss her 22-year tenure with the FBI, where she investigated Asian Organized Crime in Los Angeles, and then became the Special Agent in Charge of the Cyber and Computer Forensics Programs. Gina tells us a few personal stories, and then answers a few Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell-related questions.
    We Saw the Devil: http://www.wesawthedevil.com
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    Our Guest:
    Behind the Crime Scene Podcast: https://behindthecrimescene.com/\
    Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/behindthecrime2
    Personal: http://www.ginalosborn.com
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    We would like to thank our Executive Producers:
    Maureen M
    Tamara R
    Emalie S
    Michele K
    Ylana Dawn M
    Faye S
    Christy K
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    Ashley M
    LeeAnn M
    Cristi R
    Shawna S
    Amy S
    Iris-Dora S
    Ian M
    Elizabeth B
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    ...as well as all of our other Patrons! Thank you for making this possible! Check us out on Patreon.com/WeSawtheDevil if you would like to support the show!
    Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/we-saw-the-devil-a-true-crime-podcast--4433638/support.
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    The Lori Vallow Case: Updates & Answering Listener Questions! Aug 14, 2020
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    For this episode, we go over a few relevant case updates and then answer some listener questions.
    Who is paying Lori Vallow's attorney fees? Whose lawyer has assault charges? Why was Alex Cox able to carry a gun? Is Chad Daybell actually not the ringleader? Surprisingly, we also received a few personal questions about us as well!
    Looking to the next week: Our mini-episode on Jason Mow will be arriving Sunday morning, and then our interview with Gina Osborn, a retired FBI Agent and host of Behind the Crime Scene podcast, will be released on Tuesday!
    Don't forget to let us know if you want us to continue our "Back to the Lori Vallow Basics" series!
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    We would like to thank our Executive Producers:
    Maureen M
    Tamara R
    Emalie S
    Michele K
    Ylana Dawn M
    Faye S
    Christy K
    Ashley B
    Ashley M
    LeeAnn M
    Cristi R
    Shawna S
    Amy S
    Iris-Dora S
    Ian M
    Elizabeth B
    Michelle P
    Christina S
    ...as well as all of our other Patrons! Thank you for making this possible! Check us out on Patreon.com/WeSawtheDevil if you would like to support the show!
    Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/we-saw-the-devil-a-true-crime-podcast--4433638/support.
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    A Recap of Day 2 of Chad Daybell's Prelim, News & Thoughts (The Lori Vallow Case) Aug 07, 2020
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    What an INSANE day in court! For this episode, we do a recap of Day 2 of Chad Daybell's preliminary hearing. We then give our thoughts, opinions and speculation, as well as cover more recent news from the overall Lori Vallow case. Why did Lori exercise her right to waive her preliminary hearing? Is Lori flipping on Chad? Could Chad be flipping on Lori? What is Melanie Gibbs' deal???
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    We would like to thank our Executive Producers:
    Maureen M
    Tamara R
    Emalie S
    Ylana Dawn M
    Faye S
    Christy K
    Ashley B
    Ashley M
    LeeAnn M
    Cristi R
    Shawna S
    Amy S
    Iris-Dora S
    Ian M
    Elizabeth B
    Michelle P
    Christina S
    ...as well as all of our other Patrons! Thank you for making this possible! Check us out on Patreon.com/WeSawtheDevil if you would like to support the show!
    Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/we-saw-the-devil-a-true-crime-podcast--4433638/support.
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    Chad Daybell Preliminary Hearing Day 1: Betrayal by a Friend, Physical Evidence & More Aug 05, 2020
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    For this episode, we recap Day 1 of Chad Daybell's preliminary hearing. We will continue tomorrow with an episode covering Day 2, along with all of our thoughts on it! Did Melanie Gibb and David Warwick see JJ before or after he was murdered? Did Lori Vallow and Chad have suspicions that Melanie Gibb was recording the call? What happened to JJ Vallow when he was murdered? Does ANYONE care about Tylee? We will discuss all of these things and more on tomorrow' episode.
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    We would like to thank our Executive Producers:
    Maureen M
    Tamara R
    Emalie S
    Ylana Dawn M
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    Christy K
    Ashley B
    Ashley M
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    Cristi R
    Shawna S
    Amy S
    Iris-Dora S
    Ian M
    Elizabeth B
    Michelle P
    Christina S
    ...as well as all of our other Patrons! Thank you for making this possible! Check us out on Patreon.com/WeSawtheDevil if you would like to support the show!
    Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/we-saw-the-devil-a-true-crime-podcast--4433638/support.
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